Let's just settle this...everyone's fighting over who's better, Man O War, or Secretariat? well, they are both great horses, best of the best. Best racers we'll probably ever see. Secretariat is probably I better race horse than MOW, but why does it matter? I don't think its a competition, they were both great horses, and thats all. I personally like MOW a little better because my horse is his great,great,great,great,great granddaughter, and he was also the sire of SeaBiscuit.
@vaggieburger they both dominated their half of the century is the best way to put it. my appaloosa was also related to MOW :), IMO MOW is better for two reason.....1 - he carried more weight, sec probably could have but never did, 2 - he beat older horses, sec only ever raced horses of his own age. Those are also the two reasons why Blood Horse ranked MOW #1....both of them are SPECTACULAR
it's futile to compare horses from different eras,champs speak for themselves is it not enough to love them for the pleasure they gave us.
they don't only race horses in america,something u yanks seem to forget when talking the greats.some to check out,carbine,phar lap,tulloch.makybe diva( from downunder),seabird,arkle,ribot,mill reef,brigadier gerard,nijinsky,shergar (uk &europe)& the hungarian mare kincsem 54 starts 54 wins,you see i love the (worldwide)history of the turf. aussie horse fan
you need to do a video of all the greatest racing fillies, the winners, rachel, zenyatta, regret, winning colors, and the fillies that lost their lives in their final races, ruffian, pine island, go for wand
I think that Man O' War is the grestest horse of all time. He even won a race by 100 lenths! How is that possible? I can't imangine that... But thumbs-up to the other horses like Ruffian, Secretariat, Big Brown, Barbaro, Seabiscuit, Sir Barton, Eight Belles, Winning Colors, Citaton, Count Fleet, Cigar, Curlin and, Man O' War again!=]
In fairness, the second horse in the Lawrence Realization was entered only as a favor in order to prevent a walkover, and it was well known by everyone, including his owner, that he was not even close to the same league as MOW. That is the main reason for the 100 length(est) loss.
@belleandkat MOW won by 100 lengths because the only other horse entered was a milkhorse. No owner wanted to race his horse against him, so they found a horse just so they could have a race (and money). Just an extreme example of how lengths won by is a very deceptive way to judge a horse's worth. MOW was great, but not because he won a race by 100 lengths.
@belleandkat Check the finishing time when MOW beat that pony by 100 lengths & take Secretariat times he ran his races he would have beaten that pony by 120 lengths.
The "Olympics" of all horse racing is The Triple Crown. And only 11 horses in history have accomplished that honor. And only 1 horse in history set 3 world records that have never been broken by any horse...Secretariat is the greatest race horse in history...followed by the 2nd greatest Man O'War. Secretariat is the King of all race horses..bar none. He even beat MOW's records in the Preakness & Belmont. No horse in history has ever matched the great Secretariat and few have even gotten there.
@cmf4321 You are ever so right But MOW may not have been second best. I bet Dr. Fager could beat him in a mile race & Buckpasser. The Bid in a 1 1/4 race easy. Easy Goer, Kelso & Swaps could have beaten him in many distance races IMO. Yelp, Secretariat was no doubt the greatest of all time. Many that seen both said Secretariat was better.
Man O War didn't run in the Derby out of strictly political reasons involving Riddle (his owner) and the Derby... He would have (without question), won the triple crown if it had as much meaning then as it did now.
The 2008 Belmont, one of the most obivoue fixes you will ever see.
They had the perfect built in excuse...just make sure he finishes out of the money.There was nothing wrong with the horse at all.He was actually ticked off waving his head around cause he wanted to run.I will put it to you this way,all those that boxed him as a victory and all those that lost straight..losttheir money to Belmont Park, just a typical New York race track. Give me a break. I mean who could blame him after 8bells.
I seriously thought he was gonna win it easily, he should have, I and a few family members agree that at...what was t...the 2 turn, I believe, he was being held back!
Did you see the new news on him? Running with a lose shoe!!That may be what happened, do u think?
The thing that gets to me, is the back rear horse shoe wasnt put on properly? Tell me, how often does that happen?
Well weird things have happened on New York tracks to heavy favorites on NY tracks. Going clear bacl to MOW at the 1919 race at Saratoga, to Spectacular Bid stepping on a pin, to Secretariat losing twice in 73, one to Onion at Saratoga nd theother at Belmont to Prove Out.
Very nice video, welcome newbie to racing. Man O' War never raced in the Derby because his owners didn't believe in racing a 3yr old that early in the year. And those were just 3 races--calling them The TC didn't exist in 1920 so the added incentive to go wasn't there. And can you imagine the trip? Long train ride rom the Northeast to KY in 1919!
that maks no difference because everyone knows that he would hav won if he entered the kentucky derby and he destroyed sir. barton a triple crown winner he won 20 out of 21 starts he once won a race by 100 leangts and the race he lost they opened the gate when he was faced the wrong way and ran away from the race then he turned around and lost by a nose if you want to know more about Man O' War read the book Man O' War by walter farley
@shahrzad1893 Again, Man o' War won a race by 100 lengths because he ran against ONLY ONE HORSE (a nobody) - no one else wanted their horse to face him. It
@rcschumann the times count yes....but breeding practices had significantly improved in he 50+ years between, it's really impossible to truly compare them, both of them are amazing pieces of racing history
how should u know? its not like ur that educated about the best if u think its dumb. have some respect for the horses. they are greater than what u think. humans are good but horses are great. stop critisizing them. u are impressing no one.
the video is actually great because it teaches people about the triple crown. critisizing the triple crown is basically the same thing as critisizing the ones who won it. and to think u called me the smart one!
Lovely video. My only comment is that the front horse in the "War Admiral" photo is actually Seabiscuit. War Admiral is behind him; it's the match race in which Seabiscuit defeated War Admiral.
Let's just settle this...everyone's fighting over who's better, Man O War, or Secretariat? well, they are both great horses, best of the best. Best racers we'll probably ever see. Secretariat is probably I better race horse than MOW, but why does it matter? I don't think its a competition, they were both great horses, and thats all. I personally like MOW a little better because my horse is his great,great,great,great,great granddaughter, and he was also the sire of SeaBiscuit.
vaggieburger 8 months ago
@vaggieburger they both dominated their half of the century is the best way to put it. my appaloosa was also related to MOW :), IMO MOW is better for two reason.....1 - he carried more weight, sec probably could have but never did, 2 - he beat older horses, sec only ever raced horses of his own age. Those are also the two reasons why Blood Horse ranked MOW #1....both of them are SPECTACULAR
denabluechicken 8 months ago
Love this video. Beautiful! Missing Native Dancer, though. Only lost one race (Derby) & it was jockey error.
vickierlan 9 months ago
it's futile to compare horses from different eras,champs speak for themselves is it not enough to love them for the pleasure they gave us.
they don't only race horses in america,something u yanks seem to forget when talking the greats.some to check out,carbine,phar lap,tulloch.makybe diva( from downunder),seabird,arkle,ribot,mill reef,brigadier gerard,nijinsky,shergar (uk &europe)& the hungarian mare kincsem 54 starts 54 wins,you see i love the (worldwide)history of the turf. aussie horse fan
gratefultiger 11 months ago
you need to do a video of all the greatest racing fillies, the winners, rachel, zenyatta, regret, winning colors, and the fillies that lost their lives in their final races, ruffian, pine island, go for wand
tmustang94 1 year ago
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BackstretchUnderdog 2 years ago
I think that Man O' War is the grestest horse of all time. He even won a race by 100 lenths! How is that possible? I can't imangine that... But thumbs-up to the other horses like Ruffian, Secretariat, Big Brown, Barbaro, Seabiscuit, Sir Barton, Eight Belles, Winning Colors, Citaton, Count Fleet, Cigar, Curlin and, Man O' War again!=]
Ruffian is my favorite filly of all time!=)
belleandkat 2 years ago
@belleandkat
In fairness, the second horse in the Lawrence Realization was entered only as a favor in order to prevent a walkover, and it was well known by everyone, including his owner, that he was not even close to the same league as MOW. That is the main reason for the 100 length(est) loss.
ewd76 2 years ago
@belleandkat MOW won by 100 lengths because the only other horse entered was a milkhorse. No owner wanted to race his horse against him, so they found a horse just so they could have a race (and money). Just an extreme example of how lengths won by is a very deceptive way to judge a horse's worth. MOW was great, but not because he won a race by 100 lengths.
1948BigCy 1 year ago
@belleandkat Check the finishing time when MOW beat that pony by 100 lengths & take Secretariat times he ran his races he would have beaten that pony by 120 lengths.
rscarbro100 1 year ago
The "Olympics" of all horse racing is The Triple Crown. And only 11 horses in history have accomplished that honor. And only 1 horse in history set 3 world records that have never been broken by any horse...Secretariat is the greatest race horse in history...followed by the 2nd greatest Man O'War. Secretariat is the King of all race horses..bar none. He even beat MOW's records in the Preakness & Belmont. No horse in history has ever matched the great Secretariat and few have even gotten there.
cmf4321 3 years ago
@cmf4321 You are ever so right But MOW may not have been second best. I bet Dr. Fager could beat him in a mile race & Buckpasser. The Bid in a 1 1/4 race easy. Easy Goer, Kelso & Swaps could have beaten him in many distance races IMO. Yelp, Secretariat was no doubt the greatest of all time. Many that seen both said Secretariat was better.
rscarbro100 1 year ago
Man O War didn't win the triple crown....
Neither did Barbaro.....
Man O War wasn't even in the Kentucky Derby LOL
Barbaro may he RIP didn't do it though many do believe he could've. Your title is kind of misleading.
You should've put Secreteriat Affirmed And Seattle Slew in the title if your doing a vid about tripple crowns.
KingKiaJames 3 years ago
Man O War didn't run in the Derby out of strictly political reasons involving Riddle (his owner) and the Derby... He would have (without question), won the triple crown if it had as much meaning then as it did now.
nyiballs 2 years ago
I thought the triple crown didn't exist back then
KingKiaJames 2 years ago
The 2008 Belmont, one of the most obivoue fixes you will ever see.
They had the perfect built in excuse...just make sure he finishes out of the money.There was nothing wrong with the horse at all.He was actually ticked off waving his head around cause he wanted to run.I will put it to you this way,all those that boxed him as a victory and all those that lost straight..losttheir money to Belmont Park, just a typical New York race track. Give me a break. I mean who could blame him after 8bells.
bronco3250 3 years ago
I seriously thought he was gonna win it easily, he should have, I and a few family members agree that at...what was t...the 2 turn, I believe, he was being held back!
Did you see the new news on him? Running with a lose shoe!!That may be what happened, do u think?
PFIET 3 years ago
The thing that gets to me, is the back rear horse shoe wasnt put on properly? Tell me, how often does that happen?
Well weird things have happened on New York tracks to heavy favorites on NY tracks. Going clear bacl to MOW at the 1919 race at Saratoga, to Spectacular Bid stepping on a pin, to Secretariat losing twice in 73, one to Onion at Saratoga nd theother at Belmont to Prove Out.
And now the 1-5 Big Brown.
bronco3250 3 years ago
If you look, there are pictures that show he had a dislodged shoe during the racr, witch was cuasing discomfort.
lablover94 3 years ago
Who agrees Big Brown will win the Triple Crown!!???!
PFIET 3 years ago
poor barbaro he was great
khotw 4 years ago
Very nice video, welcome newbie to racing. Man O' War never raced in the Derby because his owners didn't believe in racing a 3yr old that early in the year. And those were just 3 races--calling them The TC didn't exist in 1920 so the added incentive to go wasn't there. And can you imagine the trip? Long train ride rom the Northeast to KY in 1919!
pattii55 4 years ago 2
But man o'war never won the triple crown
hc8719 4 years ago
that maks no difference because everyone knows that he would hav won if he entered the kentucky derby and he destroyed sir. barton a triple crown winner he won 20 out of 21 starts he once won a race by 100 leangts and the race he lost they opened the gate when he was faced the wrong way and ran away from the race then he turned around and lost by a nose if you want to know more about Man O' War read the book Man O' War by walter farley
shahrzad1893 4 years ago
I have that book haven't had the time to really readit tho
PFIET 4 years ago
u should its really good :)
shahrzad1893 4 years ago
Really? I'm kinda afraid to cuz its in like 3 pieces1 LOL It just fell apart I guess.Maybe I'll read sometime.
PFIET 3 years ago
haha mine is so old and i read it a buch of times i luv it XD
shahrzad1893 3 years ago
@shahrzad1893 Again, Man o' War won a race by 100 lengths because he ran against ONLY ONE HORSE (a nobody) - no one else wanted their horse to face him. It
rcschumann 11 months ago
@shahrzad1893 It's the times that count.
rcschumann 11 months ago
@rcschumann the times count yes....but breeding practices had significantly improved in he 50+ years between, it's really impossible to truly compare them, both of them are amazing pieces of racing history
denabluechicken 8 months ago
Dumb.
PFIET 4 years ago
i wonder what PFIET's first video looked like...hmmm, let's think...it sucked balls
bareback213 4 years ago
I am just expressing my opinion and if i were to make a video it wouldn't be sucked balls!
PFIET 4 years ago
how should u know? its not like ur that educated about the best if u think its dumb. have some respect for the horses. they are greater than what u think. humans are good but horses are great. stop critisizing them. u are impressing no one.
RidingWithRuffian 4 years ago
I'm not critisizing the horses! I'm critisizing the video smart one! And as a matter of fact i happen to have some respect for them!
PFIET 4 years ago
the video is actually great because it teaches people about the triple crown. critisizing the triple crown is basically the same thing as critisizing the ones who won it. and to think u called me the smart one!
RidingWithRuffian 4 years ago 2
i'M NOT CRITISIZING ANYTHING BUT THE QUALITY OF THE VIDEO, IT'S JUST I'VE SEEN BETTER!
PFIET 4 years ago
Please take note of the video description where it says that this is this persons first video, so its not the best.
Blueroan123 3 years ago
Very well done!
forensicgirl 4 years ago
You did a very good job. I think Barbaro would have out shone them all!!!
pwhisker 4 years ago
That was awsome
racehorselover333 4 years ago
what song is this?
Venya9 4 years ago
i have to agree with obxbaby54, the movie was ok but my opion you should of made it longer with more of the greats
k7m4 4 years ago
Lovely video. My only comment is that the front horse in the "War Admiral" photo is actually Seabiscuit. War Admiral is behind him; it's the match race in which Seabiscuit defeated War Admiral.
obxbaby54 4 years ago
Thank you for these champions which are food for the soul. My chance search for Man of War was so rewarding.
azebra5 5 years ago
Very Good job. Thanks you for doing this video with The Run For The Roses song. It was moving....
Spiritofbogen 5 years ago