Cuz when you are in an armtriangle you cant move your back and shift your weight, the punches would not do any damage Plus you prob can breathe 100% either. When you hit you open up even more to knees and elbows. You would be knocked out cold in a sec. Elbows and knees are 10 times more effective than punches.
rasmuspaluffen@ Thank you for your explaination : ) I kinda agree. I myself practise wing chun, in this case we are usually teached to hit the grabber straight on the face with continuous inch punches or shock the ribs with two low hand plam as wing chun emphasize on " short generation of power. Do you think that will work in this situation ? pls acknowledge me. very appreciated.
@nuetralist Hehe i'm the worst at answering these things. Ehm i bad pretty bad at english grammar too. It depends so much on what type of opponent you are fighting. Everything works, you just have to time it in. I train muay thai, Brazilian jujitsu and "mma". The basic techniques is the ones that has most % chance to work but you can always try cool stuff, sometimes it works. I use a "specialmove" myself, the kyokushin kick. Love it :) You just have to time it well
@rasmuspaluffen Thank you for replying : ) I kinda agree different tactics request different timing. I always wonder someting about about MMA, when you rush in to grab ur opponents legs dont you worry about gettung a knee or ki ck right in the head ??!! Dont you think its faster and easier for him to ki ck u in the head rather than you grabbing his his leg ??!!
@nuetralist Hehe yeah, thats really a problem. I am a so called "striker", i prefer to stand up and fight rather than lying down and go for a submission move. Probably because my thai background. I often knee them in the head :D The thing is most of the professionals in the ufc etc have lost all the standing fighting techniques. They are so afraid of takedowns so they lower their point of weight and their stance becomes useless in the point of kicking and kneeing. Fake a jab, and you got him ;)
Wrestler also has a technique of his own, I did not say bodybuilder. If for exmaple some middleweight like Rammon Dekkers will try this technique against Alistair Overeem, it will not work. It will work against only the man of your ize or little. And you know repeating the same thing twice is rude, I am not blind here.
That's exactly what I am talking about. In the real fight you have no weight categoires. Leave that categories sport shit to sportsmen. Real fight is real fight and against a guy 20 sm taller and 20 kilos larger you should be using something else. The lead pipe will be nice, but if you don't have it u should have brillliantly polished kick to the groin and finger to the eye. That shit really works.
Do you know that initially Muay Thai was not a sport?. It was a martial art, and groin kicks were used along with low kicks, elbows and strikes with a head. There no weight categories and fighters oftenly used broken glass sticked to bandage plunged in the glue and weared on fists.
@BlackDogGrim - "brillliantly polished kick to the groin and finger to the eye." ???
think about what you are saying, relevant to your earlier post. If Dekkers could not use this tech in the video against Overeem, how is he going to jab him in the eye? Surely the size difference there will also have an effect. Kicks to the groin can be blocked as easily as push kicks and roundhouse kicks; only in something like Wing Chun are groin kicks and eye pokes considered some kind of magic formula
It takes sometimes too long to outbox or outkick your opponent on the street when he is larger than you and has good chin.
Still, half of any kicks in any fight are not blocked. So do groin and knee kicks.Btw, you can try to spar light contact and try to use them. You will be amased how often they are passing through the defenses of thai and kickboxers. They are just not used to it. My favorite is jab+ cross+ groin kick combo. Do not forget about protective clothing.
@FightersOnlyMagazine If he's that good that he can block all those kicks then he's obviously not just some street thug. and it also depends on how fast you are, as well as conditioning. The best martial arts fighters are old men in there 50 all the way to there 80's Gene Lebell, Dan Inosanto, William Cheung, Marc Denny. You can come up with this MMA stuff all you want it wont make you invincible. None the less Inosanto, and Denny do MMA and BJJ and Shooto. Gene Lebell is a Judo man 10th degree
@FightersOnlyMagazine If the guy is trained in Muay Thai his elbows and knee's and shins are bad enough. It would be worse if he was in Okinawan Karate cause htey can break boards with there fingers and baseball bats with there shins. If they know how to grapple? Then just RUN. MMA is not a new sport its just a compliation of OLD SPORTS IM TALKING OLD. plus one newer one mainly BJJ. MMA guys have egos up the wazu over nothing they havent done anything that hasnt been done before.
@BlackDogGrim You shouldnt resort to weapons unless the guy has one first cause then they will view it as excessive force. Finger jabs and kicks to the groin are good if he's not a lacky of a fighter hten you should maybe strike the neck kick his knee kick his shin put your four arm in the side of his neck stuff like that
if it's actual fights you're talking about, i think you're wrong. if you really know how to fight your technique will definitely win against some guy who just thinks he's tough. that's actually the point of most martial arts. unless your name is fedor you should never think about fighting alistair anyway, but someone his size without real knowledge of how to fight would get murdered by ramon dekkers lets be honest
Why do you associate strength with mindless agression? Strength is a tool that you can use in the battle as well as agility, technique, and stamina. And if you read properly I was writing that oppoent with the same techinque level and speed, but who is stronger than you has an advantage. And in such cases going to close distance with such an opponent is a fatal mistake.
this works pretty well if ur opponent doesnt know how to clinch. a good clencher would isolate and control ur collar bone with his elbow and have the body a lot closer to prevent especially straight knees. u guys are so open in ur clinch i dont see how ur students can learn proper technique.
not necessarily, you wanna be open. that makes it easier to avoid knees, and to put power into your own knees with ur hips... being close makes it more difficult
thats the point silly, if ur very close , obviously its going to be more difficult and harder technique to do. i destroyed my last opponent on my last muay thai fight from closing the distance (no space), he was unable to knee me but i practiced enough (the proper way) so that i had open knees while still able to open my hips so i stil able to target his lower ribcage. like i said before, this teacher is too loose.
i see where you're coming from but this isnt an actual knee sparring exercise, this is just a demonstration of a particular technique. whether you're up close or open is your choice there are different options from both clinching styles
whether is demonstration or not you should be using proper technique either way. u can expect someone to show it to you sloppy and expect him to do it with skill correctly in the ring. all am saying is that this instructor is a hack and shouldnt be teaching especially posting youtube videos of the thai clinch.
obviously it doesnt have to be that close ALL the time, but you will have a major advantage if u know how to close the distance. and btw, my instructor is also from thailand from a gym that specilizes in knees. Giet Phong Xay
Sawatdee! Simple and effective. Thanks for sharing!
SouthpawJonJon 2 months ago
Your hips have to be in. That's terrible technique
Jeter16t 8 months ago
Like At The End How He Says: "Questions" Where The Fuck Is The Throw In This Video?
Simplymatt937 1 year ago
the guy on the left looks like the typical dude running around in Thailand looking for little boys. LOL
jerryx2000 1 year ago
Really helpful technique just what i was looking for Cheers!!!
vaderscodpiece 1 year ago
*commits this to memory*
shinobi1014 1 year ago
ANOTHER EXECLLENT LESSON ON UTUBE .
THERE ARE MANY GREAT LESSONS ON UTUBE BUT THE THAI FIGHTERS ARE NOT LEARNING THEM ..
NOTHING BUT PRAIZE FOR THIS LESSON!!
EVERY ONE WATCH AND LEARN
FUSSYMUAYTHAI 1 year ago
punch him in the jujunam!!! see if that makes him let go!!!!
darkninja411 1 year ago
Nice technique, I like that variation of the triangle choke..
exousia123 1 year ago
Nice vid. I like the little detail about the elbow on the lat. for the head/arm clinch.
ThaiClinch 1 year ago
RealContactFighter@ Why cant you just punch the grabber on the ribs !!??
nuetralist 2 years ago
@nuetralist - Knees beat punches. Every. Single. Time.
khunkao 1 year ago
@khunkao not really man, you can get knock out by a nice clean punch or kick before u could even come close enough to use knees !! so depends.
nuetralist 1 year ago
Cuz when you are in an armtriangle you cant move your back and shift your weight, the punches would not do any damage Plus you prob can breathe 100% either. When you hit you open up even more to knees and elbows. You would be knocked out cold in a sec. Elbows and knees are 10 times more effective than punches.
rasmuspaluffen 1 year ago 7
rasmuspaluffen@ Thank you for your explaination : ) I kinda agree. I myself practise wing chun, in this case we are usually teached to hit the grabber straight on the face with continuous inch punches or shock the ribs with two low hand plam as wing chun emphasize on " short generation of power. Do you think that will work in this situation ? pls acknowledge me. very appreciated.
nuetralist 1 year ago
@nuetralist Hehe i'm the worst at answering these things. Ehm i bad pretty bad at english grammar too. It depends so much on what type of opponent you are fighting. Everything works, you just have to time it in. I train muay thai, Brazilian jujitsu and "mma". The basic techniques is the ones that has most % chance to work but you can always try cool stuff, sometimes it works. I use a "specialmove" myself, the kyokushin kick. Love it :) You just have to time it well
rasmuspaluffen 1 year ago
@rasmuspaluffen Thank you for replying : ) I kinda agree different tactics request different timing. I always wonder someting about about MMA, when you rush in to grab ur opponents legs dont you worry about gettung a knee or ki ck right in the head ??!! Dont you think its faster and easier for him to ki ck u in the head rather than you grabbing his his leg ??!!
nuetralist 1 year ago
@nuetralist Hehe yeah, thats really a problem. I am a so called "striker", i prefer to stand up and fight rather than lying down and go for a submission move. Probably because my thai background. I often knee them in the head :D The thing is most of the professionals in the ufc etc have lost all the standing fighting techniques. They are so afraid of takedowns so they lower their point of weight and their stance becomes useless in the point of kicking and kneeing. Fake a jab, and you got him ;)
rasmuspaluffen 1 year ago
by the way the counter shows on the video looks similar to those Shotokan armlocks : )
nuetralist 1 year ago
sic.,,,
thetigertony 2 years ago
Useful but won't work agsint guy who is stronger than you
BlackDogGrim 2 years ago
Technique > Strength
ShaneMFinn 2 years ago
go try it against a strong wrestler - I would like to see that
BlackDogGrim 2 years ago
Technique > Strength
ShaneMFinn 2 years ago
Wrestler also has a technique of his own, I did not say bodybuilder. If for exmaple some middleweight like Rammon Dekkers will try this technique against Alistair Overeem, it will not work. It will work against only the man of your ize or little. And you know repeating the same thing twice is rude, I am not blind here.
BlackDogGrim 2 years ago
I think there are weight classes or something in Muay Thai, right? Would it work then?
RealContactFighter 2 years ago
That's exactly what I am talking about. In the real fight you have no weight categoires. Leave that categories sport shit to sportsmen. Real fight is real fight and against a guy 20 sm taller and 20 kilos larger you should be using something else. The lead pipe will be nice, but if you don't have it u should have brillliantly polished kick to the groin and finger to the eye. That shit really works.
BlackDogGrim 2 years ago
Sportsmen like Muay Thai fighters?
RealContactFighter 2 years ago
Do you know that initially Muay Thai was not a sport?. It was a martial art, and groin kicks were used along with low kicks, elbows and strikes with a head. There no weight categories and fighters oftenly used broken glass sticked to bandage plunged in the glue and weared on fists.
BlackDogGrim 2 years ago
@BlackDogGrim
If MMA has taught us anything about self defense it's that groin kick/eye poke will stop just about anybody.
BongSao1979 1 year ago
@BlackDogGrim - "brillliantly polished kick to the groin and finger to the eye." ???
think about what you are saying, relevant to your earlier post. If Dekkers could not use this tech in the video against Overeem, how is he going to jab him in the eye? Surely the size difference there will also have an effect. Kicks to the groin can be blocked as easily as push kicks and roundhouse kicks; only in something like Wing Chun are groin kicks and eye pokes considered some kind of magic formula
FightersOnlyMagazine 1 year ago
FightersOnlyMagazine
It takes sometimes too long to outbox or outkick your opponent on the street when he is larger than you and has good chin.
Still, half of any kicks in any fight are not blocked. So do groin and knee kicks.Btw, you can try to spar light contact and try to use them. You will be amased how often they are passing through the defenses of thai and kickboxers. They are just not used to it. My favorite is jab+ cross+ groin kick combo. Do not forget about protective clothing.
BlackDogGrim 1 year ago
@FightersOnlyMagazine If he's that good that he can block all those kicks then he's obviously not just some street thug. and it also depends on how fast you are, as well as conditioning. The best martial arts fighters are old men in there 50 all the way to there 80's Gene Lebell, Dan Inosanto, William Cheung, Marc Denny. You can come up with this MMA stuff all you want it wont make you invincible. None the less Inosanto, and Denny do MMA and BJJ and Shooto. Gene Lebell is a Judo man 10th degree
Mider999 1 year ago
@FightersOnlyMagazine If the guy is trained in Muay Thai his elbows and knee's and shins are bad enough. It would be worse if he was in Okinawan Karate cause htey can break boards with there fingers and baseball bats with there shins. If they know how to grapple? Then just RUN. MMA is not a new sport its just a compliation of OLD SPORTS IM TALKING OLD. plus one newer one mainly BJJ. MMA guys have egos up the wazu over nothing they havent done anything that hasnt been done before.
Mider999 1 year ago
@BlackDogGrim You shouldnt resort to weapons unless the guy has one first cause then they will view it as excessive force. Finger jabs and kicks to the groin are good if he's not a lacky of a fighter hten you should maybe strike the neck kick his knee kick his shin put your four arm in the side of his neck stuff like that
Mider999 1 year ago
@BlackDogGrim
if it's actual fights you're talking about, i think you're wrong. if you really know how to fight your technique will definitely win against some guy who just thinks he's tough. that's actually the point of most martial arts. unless your name is fedor you should never think about fighting alistair anyway, but someone his size without real knowledge of how to fight would get murdered by ramon dekkers lets be honest
jvance2230 1 year ago
@jvance2230
Agreed:). That's actually is my point is all about:)
BlackDogGrim 1 year ago
technique and strategy always wins over strength and mindless aggression
Kabosen23 2 years ago 11
Why do you associate strength with mindless agression? Strength is a tool that you can use in the battle as well as agility, technique, and stamina. And if you read properly I was writing that oppoent with the same techinque level and speed, but who is stronger than you has an advantage. And in such cases going to close distance with such an opponent is a fatal mistake.
BlackDogGrim 2 years ago
@Kabosen23 ....no it doesn't. Shane Carwin vs Frank Mirr is a pretty recent example
MasterOGA 1 year ago
Not exactly a THROW but good and useful technique anyways.
TheDarkKnight1985 2 years ago
this works pretty well if ur opponent doesnt know how to clinch. a good clencher would isolate and control ur collar bone with his elbow and have the body a lot closer to prevent especially straight knees. u guys are so open in ur clinch i dont see how ur students can learn proper technique.
supajive 3 years ago
not necessarily, you wanna be open. that makes it easier to avoid knees, and to put power into your own knees with ur hips... being close makes it more difficult
sagmann20 2 years ago
thats the point silly, if ur very close , obviously its going to be more difficult and harder technique to do. i destroyed my last opponent on my last muay thai fight from closing the distance (no space), he was unable to knee me but i practiced enough (the proper way) so that i had open knees while still able to open my hips so i stil able to target his lower ribcage. like i said before, this teacher is too loose.
supajive 2 years ago
i see where you're coming from but this isnt an actual knee sparring exercise, this is just a demonstration of a particular technique. whether you're up close or open is your choice there are different options from both clinching styles
sagmann20 2 years ago
whether is demonstration or not you should be using proper technique either way. u can expect someone to show it to you sloppy and expect him to do it with skill correctly in the ring. all am saying is that this instructor is a hack and shouldnt be teaching especially posting youtube videos of the thai clinch.
supajive 2 years ago
:::shrugs::: well my teachers from thailand and he never says u have to be hip to hip all the time
sagmann20 2 years ago
obviously it doesnt have to be that close ALL the time, but you will have a major advantage if u know how to close the distance. and btw, my instructor is also from thailand from a gym that specilizes in knees. Giet Phong Xay
supajive 2 years ago
nice
admbjj 3 years ago
Where was the throw?
MPA2000 3 years ago
Throw "by" my fren.
RealContactFighter 3 years ago 3
Huh?
MPA2000 3 years ago
Can you choke him from there?
Greatsocratesghost 3 years ago
YES!
RealContactFighter 3 years ago