I have just bought myself my first pinball... a TZ just like this one. Can you make a video demonstrating how to do a bangback? I want to be able to do something like this, but I'm scared of damaging a $5300 machine!!
Thats really cool you have TZ though, it looks like alot of fun, and I can tell you appreciate it. After I graduate from college and get my career in programming going there will be one more Pin collecter out there to share vids and stories of great machines. My top 5 wishlist
Can you death save off the other orbit on TZ? I never get to play any classic machines. My only highlight was an IJ table the bolwling ally in surprisingly good shape. I would love to play TZ or monster bash.
@Undurrrdog1 yep, it is possible to do bang back from both side on TZ. IJ and MB are great machines too, too bad that I've ran out of space in my gameroom before having the chance to lay my hands on them =)
I have a TZ and I use this technique all the time. I dont know what it is about TZ but of all my games (Addams, Star Trek next Gen, BTTF, Jurassic Park, and Getaway), TZ is the ONLY one that I can bang back on and it is surprisingly easy. The trick is to hit the cabinet just above and to the right of the start button. People always want to hit the lock bar but this is way less effective. I think the wide body allows for more surface area to hit making it easier to do.
@thedoorsfan71 Yep that is right, TZ is the easiest machine to bangback but I managed to BB lot of others, but you really needs to hit really hard (damn it hurts a lot =) ). And, as you say, the spot to hit is narrower than on a wide body (you have to aim just beside the coindoor. And if you miss and hit the coin door, then... ouch!).
Hitting the lockdown bar is a newbies way, its completly unefective as the lockdown bar is not firmly afixed to the cabinet, it act as a shock absorber.
Sorry Mister-Know-It-All but as you can see, this can't be a Visual Pinball table. VP just looks like crap, and there is no Twilight Zone table on Future Pinball (which really rocks and do not looks like crap). This is really my very own pinball machine, it is still in my gameroom of course, and I'm pretty used to this kind of trick and can bangback almost any machine, as far as there are no heavy duty wires under flipper bats.
can this trick work on every machine or just the wide bodies? i could imagine the angle of the playfield and angle of the drain have a huge part in the physics of the trick... what is the official slope angle of a play field? This would be a good physics experiment for school!
This work on many machines, not only wide bodies. Angle of the drain is the most important thing, the material also, it is harder to bang back a machine with a plastic arch than a machine with a metal arch. I think it can be modelized but I'm sure that the tester's hand would be bleeding before any usefull idea would come to mind =) The official slope in about post 1985 pinballs is 6.5°. Before it was 3°, when coils and flippers were not powerfull enought to drive the ball upward.
a local bar had a "mars attacks" game with no tilt.....i mean zero tilt.....that poor game......bang backs were the least of its problems.......but boy we had fun with that one........i like your vids
I have just bought myself my first pinball... a TZ just like this one. Can you make a video demonstrating how to do a bangback? I want to be able to do something like this, but I'm scared of damaging a $5300 machine!!
benanaman 10 months ago
Thats really cool you have TZ though, it looks like alot of fun, and I can tell you appreciate it. After I graduate from college and get my career in programming going there will be one more Pin collecter out there to share vids and stories of great machines. My top 5 wishlist
Monster Bash
Dr Who
TZ
Mideveil Madness
LotR
Undurrrdog1 1 year ago
Can you death save off the other orbit on TZ? I never get to play any classic machines. My only highlight was an IJ table the bolwling ally in surprisingly good shape. I would love to play TZ or monster bash.
Undurrrdog1 1 year ago
@Undurrrdog1 yep, it is possible to do bang back from both side on TZ. IJ and MB are great machines too, too bad that I've ran out of space in my gameroom before having the chance to lay my hands on them =)
centinex88 1 year ago
I have a TZ and I use this technique all the time. I dont know what it is about TZ but of all my games (Addams, Star Trek next Gen, BTTF, Jurassic Park, and Getaway), TZ is the ONLY one that I can bang back on and it is surprisingly easy. The trick is to hit the cabinet just above and to the right of the start button. People always want to hit the lock bar but this is way less effective. I think the wide body allows for more surface area to hit making it easier to do.
thedoorsfan71 1 year ago
@thedoorsfan71 Yep that is right, TZ is the easiest machine to bangback but I managed to BB lot of others, but you really needs to hit really hard (damn it hurts a lot =) ). And, as you say, the spot to hit is narrower than on a wide body (you have to aim just beside the coindoor. And if you miss and hit the coin door, then... ouch!).
Hitting the lockdown bar is a newbies way, its completly unefective as the lockdown bar is not firmly afixed to the cabinet, it act as a shock absorber.
centinex88 1 year ago
There is no way you can do this on an actual Bally/Wlliams machine. I've done it on a Stern/Sega/Data East no probs. You are using emulation!!!!
Nigaromia 1 year ago
@Nigaromia
Sorry Mister-Know-It-All but as you can see, this can't be a Visual Pinball table. VP just looks like crap, and there is no Twilight Zone table on Future Pinball (which really rocks and do not looks like crap). This is really my very own pinball machine, it is still in my gameroom of course, and I'm pretty used to this kind of trick and can bangback almost any machine, as far as there are no heavy duty wires under flipper bats.
Must have shown my hands on that video clip...
centinex88 1 year ago
@Nigaromia
You have no proper perception of reality if you think this is an emulator. You need glasses.
strikerk 1 year ago
can this trick work on every machine or just the wide bodies? i could imagine the angle of the playfield and angle of the drain have a huge part in the physics of the trick... what is the official slope angle of a play field? This would be a good physics experiment for school!
jasonm621 2 years ago
This work on many machines, not only wide bodies. Angle of the drain is the most important thing, the material also, it is harder to bang back a machine with a plastic arch than a machine with a metal arch. I think it can be modelized but I'm sure that the tester's hand would be bleeding before any usefull idea would come to mind =) The official slope in about post 1985 pinballs is 6.5°. Before it was 3°, when coils and flippers were not powerfull enought to drive the ball upward.
centinex88 2 years ago
Oh, and what's your high score on TZ? With skills like that I bet its...what, over a billion at least? You play AF at all?
chillwesebro 3 years ago
Over three billions in fact. After the second LITZ this game become pretty borring in fact ;)
I never played TAF that much, I do not like it as I like TZ because the rules are not deep enough on TAF. Bang backs are harder too =)
centinex88 3 years ago
Lets see some more vids of your skills! Death save? Drop stop? Flip trap?
chillwesebro 3 years ago
Well I promised myself to add a video for each skill that I performe but I never had time to do so.
centinex88 3 years ago
How it is done ???
Klimy 4 years ago
bangbacks are made by hitting the machine on the cabinet, just under the lockdown bar, with the plam of the hand ;)
centinex88 3 years ago
@centinex88
How to do this without a slam tilt ?? Twilight Zone is my favourite pinball! You can emulate it in 3D with "Visual Pinball" try it.
Klimy 1 year ago
@Klimy
The hit on the cabinet is technicaly not a nudge, but a short an brief hit, thus the slamtilt do not register it.
It need a carfully adjusted slam tilt to register this kind of trick. Most of them are not adjusted tight enough.
I know about VP, but it's no use to emulate TZ for me : I have one in my gameroom =)
centinex88 1 year ago
a local bar had a "mars attacks" game with no tilt.....i mean zero tilt.....that poor game......bang backs were the least of its problems.......but boy we had fun with that one........i like your vids
CAPTAINQUINN 4 years ago
revengefrommars > I'm gonna do one just for you when I'll have time ;)
lartrak > bangbacks are made by hitting the machine on the cabinet, just under the lockdown bar, with the plam of the hand.
centinex88 4 years ago
Did you do this by kicking the leg or something else? I always worry about the machines getting damaged from it...
lartrak 4 years ago
This was on a Twilight Zone.. a widebody machine.. if anything's getting damaged doing a bang back on one of those it's YOU :)
hyphz 4 years ago
Can you find and post a drop catch clip?
revengefrommars 5 years ago