The theme is incredibly powerful, and it gains even more of a hold after all the variations and dissections of it. There's something transcendental about listening to this now, after all 40-50 minutes or so of the variations.
@MrSumperium Good point, I suppose I should've said "well thought out". Though as much as I hope he had no idea what he was going to play beforehand, I doubt this is the case: he certainly had a large thought process going into this beforehand, much like his Cadenza of Hungarian Rhapsody n°2, which I thought was improvised until I found sheet music for it.
Hamelin has some glorious moments in his improvisation (and some rather sloppy ones)...he and the composer should re-collaborate and issue a new edition of the score with an optional "specified" cadenza, which would consist of Rzewski's edited/reformatted/expanded version of Hamelin's improvisation.
Am I the only one who would've been happier with just the beautiful and majestic D-minor melody, perhaps with a little expansion on the theme, without the 827349 incomprehensible (and at times barely audible) variations?
@1980NewWave I don't think so, Personally I get really bored of all those sections with fifths over fifths, they all sound the same. And also, I think that this piece has a lot of structural problems, it's way too long, and this "strange as it may seem" does NOT make it a masterwork.
I've only listened to it a few times, and I quickly find myself annoyed at the constant "style switches". It has some awesome moments and probably has reasoning behind most of its "craziness", but I guess it's one of those examples of post-modernism that's more "clever" and "exciting" than actually good music. But whatever, I'm just some hack.
@1980NewWave No, you're not the only one. Personally, I like it - I think it comes down to purely a matter of taste. At least you were willing to open your mind and give this a go - hats off to you.
@Rob48 Rzewski wrote in the music that the pianist could improvise if he wanted. Obviously the composer himself wanted the pianist to put his own personal spin on the piece. So don't act all high and mighty. Saying you don't like the improv is one thing, but saying that the only person who could write a good improvisation is Rzewski himself makes you a pompous asshole.
This can't be an improvisation. Hamelin must have written this and memorised it! OR DID HE???? XO
Joeyboiification 6 days ago
The theme is incredibly powerful, and it gains even more of a hold after all the variations and dissections of it. There's something transcendental about listening to this now, after all 40-50 minutes or so of the variations.
thaiguy20fromla 1 month ago
has he memorized the whole thing to record it??? =O
guigodoipiano 1 month ago
4:48 - is that music or what?!
emopz13 1 month ago
4:57 death metal :D
twooffour 3 months ago
The cadenza is a potpourri of musical eras. I like it. Thanks for posting by the way.
GeneralKuno 4 months ago
I really hate his cadenza here. Technically it's outstanding, but musically, it seems very random and harsh on the ears.
kingfire111 6 months ago
6:32
KevinBeethoven 6 months ago 6
Brutal!
hyperklavier 7 months ago
Ferm
Shadowtel 11 months ago
thank you!
samsun216 11 months ago
Creepy :o Very well written cadenza :)
atee12321 1 year ago
@atee12321 Well written? Isn't this an improvisation?
MrSumperium 4 months ago
@MrSumperium Good point, I suppose I should've said "well thought out". Though as much as I hope he had no idea what he was going to play beforehand, I doubt this is the case: he certainly had a large thought process going into this beforehand, much like his Cadenza of Hungarian Rhapsody n°2, which I thought was improvised until I found sheet music for it.
atee12321 4 months ago
Hamelin has some glorious moments in his improvisation (and some rather sloppy ones)...he and the composer should re-collaborate and issue a new edition of the score with an optional "specified" cadenza, which would consist of Rzewski's edited/reformatted/expanded version of Hamelin's improvisation.
musicalidea 1 year ago
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musicalidea 1 year ago
Violent!
MarcheseCadmio88 1 year ago
brilliant work on the cadenza on hamelin's part.... very much appreciation here from an improviser at heart .. :)
4improv 1 year ago 3
Aw, no transcription of the cadenza?
Xandertrax 1 year ago
Éxtasis
fisarmonicista 1 year ago
Am I the only one who would've been happier with just the beautiful and majestic D-minor melody, perhaps with a little expansion on the theme, without the 827349 incomprehensible (and at times barely audible) variations?
1980NewWave 1 year ago 2
@1980NewWave We have seen so many works done in that way, so why not this way?
Aul1kki 1 year ago
@1980NewWave You can always write your own! Rzewski wrote the variations that compelled him.
KeithWhalen11 1 year ago 8
@1980NewWave Yes, you're the only one.
coasterman16 1 year ago
@1980NewWave probably yes
gilbertoagostinho 1 year ago
@1980NewWave yes
ivanaman 1 year ago
@1980NewWave No I'm with you... as much as I can appreciate the technical aspect of it, it's just not something I'd really listen to.
funniestbone 1 year ago
@1980NewWave I don't think so, Personally I get really bored of all those sections with fifths over fifths, they all sound the same. And also, I think that this piece has a lot of structural problems, it's way too long, and this "strange as it may seem" does NOT make it a masterwork.
maraxus83 7 months ago
@maraxus83 I'd be interested to hear your discussion regarding structural problems in the music.
musoderelict 7 months ago
@maraxus83
I've only listened to it a few times, and I quickly find myself annoyed at the constant "style switches". It has some awesome moments and probably has reasoning behind most of its "craziness", but I guess it's one of those examples of post-modernism that's more "clever" and "exciting" than actually good music. But whatever, I'm just some hack.
twooffour 3 months ago
@1980NewWave No, you're not the only one. Personally, I like it - I think it comes down to purely a matter of taste. At least you were willing to open your mind and give this a go - hats off to you.
musoderelict 7 months ago
Bach did Goldberg variations
Beethoven did Diabelli variations
Rzewski did El Pueblo Unido Jamás Será Vencido
jpablomagana 1 year ago 23
@jpablomagana Alkan did Le Festin d'Esope
madlovba2 1 year ago 7
Thanks so much for posting this, with the score too! You did quite a lot of work to coordinate all of this!
krystyna222d 1 year ago 5
I can feel the people winning through the cadenza, though through war and bloodshed, the chaos eventually resolves into harmony.
EinSofVirtuoso 1 year ago
Great improv by Hamelin! And of course, phenomenal vision on Rzewski's part.
kablamxafi 2 years ago 5
oh, Thanks for doing my request. :)
kastlesucksTDOTS 2 years ago
phenomenal piece of music, but hamelin's improv ruined it for me.
i'd much rather here rzewski himself improvise, or no improvisation at all.
Rob48 2 years ago
@Rob48 Rzewski wrote in the music that the pianist could improvise if he wanted. Obviously the composer himself wanted the pianist to put his own personal spin on the piece. So don't act all high and mighty. Saying you don't like the improv is one thing, but saying that the only person who could write a good improvisation is Rzewski himself makes you a pompous asshole.
kablamxafi 2 years ago
Hi kablamxafi
great spin on my comment!
Rob48 1 year ago 7
thanks to you for uploading this!
xodn3300 2 years ago 3
I hope this is written or I'll never touch the piano again! He has great ears man.
KeithWhalen11 2 years ago
His cadenza is scary!
kastlesucksTDOTS 2 years ago 17