I remember the first night of the Cedar fire, we could see it from our house. o_o Too bad I didn't have any recording equipment at the time. Such a shame. XD Luckily we didn't have to evacuate, we got really lucky.
Pronatalist, you are correct about the fact that huge fires can create their own weather. Look what happened with the Old Fire, which was burning along with the Cedar Fire. The Old Fire ended up becoming a "firestorm". It created clouds began to rain down on the massive fire.
I am surprised that San Diego lies next to one of those "fire bombs" or huge areas of highly flammable bushland. Note that many schools close in the event of a major series of fires like this.
Something to keep in mind is that when you see a sudden "poof" of smoke rising above the general line of flat haze, it is typically a house going up in flames. When you see giant "plums" of smoke, that is usually an entire neighborhood going up in flames. Knowing this fact helps to put this video in perspective as to the damage that was done considering that you quickly loose count of all the poofs and plums that occur.
I doubt that. How are poofs of smoke only caused by houses on fire? Can't a cluster of brush or dead trees explode in a big fireball, driven by wind or the natural hungry convection currents of the growing fire?
And of course the strange beauty of a naturally growing forest fire, is more beautiful when it can stay confined to natural areas and out of people's neighborhoods or people's property interests.
I'm actually just relaying what the news told us here in San Diego when this footage was originally released. The news choppers were the ones who originally observed that, when a house burns, the materials it's made from are far more flammable than a mere thicket of brush or trees, and can be observed as a big "poof" of smoke that ascends above the general line of haze.
Hey Gobo, I actually heard the same reports on the news here in San Diego when this footage was released. Pretty crazy. The news said this footage captured approximately 750 homes (which included several neighborhoods in rancho penasquitos) going up in flames.
Jake, you're an idiot. Our neighborhood was one of the neighborhoods that went up in this fire, and within 15 minutes, 25 homes in our track were ablaze. Next time you go shooting your mouth off, make sure it's about something you know.
Okay what was your point then? You do realize this was a time-lapse film right? 15 minutes on this video happens in 5 seconds, and you can identify neighborhoods catching on fire as "plumes", as opposed to the little puffs that individual homes give off (gobo was correct about that). In addition, you can also spot homes on fire by their mixture of black smoke in with the white (due to the plastics and other burning toxic building materials) as opposed to the white smoke of vegetation.
Really, it's a time-lapsed video? Wow, wonder how I missed that. Seriously, I've better things to do than defend a comment from 4 months ago, so you win. How about a round of applause for Dylan everybody?!?!?!
I think the misconception is that somehow burning vegetation gives off more smoke then homes... but, as I've learned first hand, homes burn in a far more volatile way because they are built upwards with TONS of wood and plastics and plenty of room for the fire to "breath" due to hallways and bedrooms throughout the home. When the fires hit the homes, the flames go insane. When the vegetation is burning, it creates far more of a smooth, steady blanket of smoke.
the poofs you are seeing is the heat from the fire breaking through the inversion layer (making unstable air) of the atmosphere. this creates erratic winds that fuel the fire making is spread faster
Yeah, that theory sounds better. Forest fires are largely the result of natural weather, but forest fires also create their own weather, especially when they grow large.
Forest fires sputter and surge, because gravity makes the heat spread inefficient. The fire loses much of its heat, as the hot gases plume upwards, letting much heat escape from fueling the fire. But it can be an erratic process by which heat builds up and surges, then it stalls, finding more, and less fuels to burn.
Life after the fire....Two years ago I went on a hike to the very place where this, the most devastating fire in California history started. Cedar Creek Canyon. The landscaped, scared, but, an amazing discovery--A HUGE WATERFALL! But this was back in 2005, the third rainiest year in San Diego recorded history. Truly, a Once-in-a-lifetime view: "Hike to Cedar Creek Falls"
i think i was in 5th grade when this happened and i was living in Tierrasanta the fire came up right to the edge of our aprtment complex then stopped (the fire dept. was too busy so they let that one burn its self out) we were very lucky)
I couldn't sleep well last night, worrying about the current 10-23-07 huge blaze goin' on over San Miguel. It was around 3 or 4 in the morning and I listened to the panic in the TV callers view of these hundred foot flames racing down the mountain toward the densely populated Spring Valley.
On Channel 7 this afternoon someone submitted a photo of these flames exploding over that mountain at that time in the morning from the North end of San Diego Bay. The flames looked like they were HUNDREDS of feet tall!!! I'm trying to find and download that image. A real life nightmare, that, by the grace of God reversed its course, JUST IN TIME...!!!!!
i did the same exact thing couldnt sleep then watched the news at 5 a.m. and i got evacuated again...but luckily winds are died down so we have some air support!
I know I'll never forget it, although I'd like to. I lived through it and had to evacuate. Luckily it didn't reach my neighborhood, but it came close.
thats a very great video!
BloKK187 1 year ago
I remember the first night of the Cedar fire, we could see it from our house. o_o Too bad I didn't have any recording equipment at the time. Such a shame. XD Luckily we didn't have to evacuate, we got really lucky.
YogurtArchangel 1 year ago
Pronatalist, you are correct about the fact that huge fires can create their own weather. Look what happened with the Old Fire, which was burning along with the Cedar Fire. The Old Fire ended up becoming a "firestorm". It created clouds began to rain down on the massive fire.
legozombie4000 1 year ago
@legozombie4000 No, it didn't. Instead the rain clouds came from a weak El Nino in the Pacific.
SnickerFizz123 1 year ago
I am surprised that San Diego lies next to one of those "fire bombs" or huge areas of highly flammable bushland. Note that many schools close in the event of a major series of fires like this.
legozombie4000 1 year ago
hey! blackhole sun!
shawnabgoode 2 years ago
i remember that... didnt have to go to school for a few weeks
Polskmofo 2 years ago
Neat to see the low level winds traveling in a different direction than the upper level winds.
jmaugham 2 years ago
it happened in 2007 and it well happen again, we well never going to stop it
sunsetreptiles 2 years ago
Great vid! The people of Pine Valley are grateful we didn't lose any houses during that fire.
Before I moved to Oregon, I was a frequent flyer to Monument Peak. Looks like you have 4 cameras on that tower?
PineValleyDigital 3 years ago
Go damn! D:
ScionT2B 3 years ago
oops I ment God Damn!
ScionT2B 3 years ago
wrong lense buddy
yourfriendvic 4 years ago
Something to keep in mind is that when you see a sudden "poof" of smoke rising above the general line of flat haze, it is typically a house going up in flames. When you see giant "plums" of smoke, that is usually an entire neighborhood going up in flames. Knowing this fact helps to put this video in perspective as to the damage that was done considering that you quickly loose count of all the poofs and plums that occur.
gobo760 4 years ago
err, I mean "plumes" rather, damn spell check. =/
gobo760 4 years ago
I doubt that. How are poofs of smoke only caused by houses on fire? Can't a cluster of brush or dead trees explode in a big fireball, driven by wind or the natural hungry convection currents of the growing fire?
And of course the strange beauty of a naturally growing forest fire, is more beautiful when it can stay confined to natural areas and out of people's neighborhoods or people's property interests.
pronatalist 4 years ago
I'm actually just relaying what the news told us here in San Diego when this footage was originally released. The news choppers were the ones who originally observed that, when a house burns, the materials it's made from are far more flammable than a mere thicket of brush or trees, and can be observed as a big "poof" of smoke that ascends above the general line of haze.
gobo760 4 years ago
You're an idiot. Entire neighborhoods don't go up at once... Watch closer next time. It doesn't happen that quick.
socaljake 4 years ago
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timsmith85 4 years ago
Hey Gobo, I actually heard the same reports on the news here in San Diego when this footage was released. Pretty crazy. The news said this footage captured approximately 750 homes (which included several neighborhoods in rancho penasquitos) going up in flames.
timsmith85 4 years ago
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dylan1769 4 years ago
Jake, you're an idiot. Our neighborhood was one of the neighborhoods that went up in this fire, and within 15 minutes, 25 homes in our track were ablaze. Next time you go shooting your mouth off, make sure it's about something you know.
dylan1769 4 years ago
Right, I'm the idiot. I suppose you're suggesting the homes all combust at once. I get it, trust me, you just missed my point.
socaljake 4 years ago
Okay what was your point then? You do realize this was a time-lapse film right? 15 minutes on this video happens in 5 seconds, and you can identify neighborhoods catching on fire as "plumes", as opposed to the little puffs that individual homes give off (gobo was correct about that). In addition, you can also spot homes on fire by their mixture of black smoke in with the white (due to the plastics and other burning toxic building materials) as opposed to the white smoke of vegetation.
dylan1769 4 years ago 2
Really, it's a time-lapsed video? Wow, wonder how I missed that. Seriously, I've better things to do than defend a comment from 4 months ago, so you win. How about a round of applause for Dylan everybody?!?!?!
socaljake 3 years ago
I think the misconception is that somehow burning vegetation gives off more smoke then homes... but, as I've learned first hand, homes burn in a far more volatile way because they are built upwards with TONS of wood and plastics and plenty of room for the fire to "breath" due to hallways and bedrooms throughout the home. When the fires hit the homes, the flames go insane. When the vegetation is burning, it creates far more of a smooth, steady blanket of smoke.
dylan1769 4 years ago 2
the poofs you are seeing is the heat from the fire breaking through the inversion layer (making unstable air) of the atmosphere. this creates erratic winds that fuel the fire making is spread faster
surfing526 4 years ago
Yeah, that theory sounds better. Forest fires are largely the result of natural weather, but forest fires also create their own weather, especially when they grow large.
Forest fires sputter and surge, because gravity makes the heat spread inefficient. The fire loses much of its heat, as the hot gases plume upwards, letting much heat escape from fueling the fire. But it can be an erratic process by which heat builds up and surges, then it stalls, finding more, and less fuels to burn.
pronatalist 3 years ago
I lived in Descanso at the time of this fire. I will never forget the evacuation, and all the devistation.
My family is still in SD during this new fire and Thank God they're OK. My prayers are going out to my hometown.
freshsoulbutter 4 years ago
Sharing this video with middle School students in South Korea. We care about our world. We love you.
jeffreytaos 4 years ago
I found this video is an apocalyptic view of your area. If you need some money for lost things, send it to documentation channels.
greetings from Germany
ThyBoag 4 years ago
yeah this sucks some lady were i work lost 2 horses, and her house is gone... so sad...
this morning
DjFramps 4 years ago
here we go again...
missionbeach 4 years ago
Have a dear friend in Julian who lost her house to the cedar fire in 2003. Great video.
BMPmama698 4 years ago
i live about 15 miles away from the fire zone.
vonrollskyway1 4 years ago
it's happenin again =/
justanotherdoode 4 years ago
a very sad week for San Diego
soyuz29 4 years ago
Life after the fire....Two years ago I went on a hike to the very place where this, the most devastating fire in California history started. Cedar Creek Canyon. The landscaped, scared, but, an amazing discovery--A HUGE WATERFALL! But this was back in 2005, the third rainiest year in San Diego recorded history. Truly, a Once-in-a-lifetime view: "Hike to Cedar Creek Falls"
californiasonshine 4 years ago
i think i was in 5th grade when this happened and i was living in Tierrasanta the fire came up right to the edge of our aprtment complex then stopped (the fire dept. was too busy so they let that one burn its self out) we were very lucky)
SD619RYDER 4 years ago
I couldn't sleep well last night, worrying about the current 10-23-07 huge blaze goin' on over San Miguel. It was around 3 or 4 in the morning and I listened to the panic in the TV callers view of these hundred foot flames racing down the mountain toward the densely populated Spring Valley.
californiasonshine 4 years ago
On Channel 7 this afternoon someone submitted a photo of these flames exploding over that mountain at that time in the morning from the North end of San Diego Bay. The flames looked like they were HUNDREDS of feet tall!!! I'm trying to find and download that image. A real life nightmare, that, by the grace of God reversed its course, JUST IN TIME...!!!!!
californiasonshine 4 years ago
i did the same exact thing couldnt sleep then watched the news at 5 a.m. and i got evacuated again...but luckily winds are died down so we have some air support!
SD619RYDER 4 years ago
I know I'll never forget it, although I'd like to. I lived through it and had to evacuate. Luckily it didn't reach my neighborhood, but it came close.
VideoFanatic02 4 years ago
This is so beautiful. I don't think I'll forget this.
shwebie 5 years ago
awesome!
73CDN 5 years ago
I want this to be featured too.. music perhaps would help.
Great vid.
Decksteritous 5 years ago
omg that was great! i hope this gets featured.
counteryourface 5 years ago