@sousswine With a safety-conscious gun crew and proper precautions (tending the vent with a moistened thumbstall, worming, sponging the barrel between rounds, holding the rammer with palms up), a period-correct rammer should be just fine. I've served as cannonneer #2 on a number of muzzle loaders for years and trust in training, proper equipment, and St. Barbara. Good luck with your 6-pounder, it looks like a fine piece.
Seeing that ball flying was pretty intense. Imagining myself back in the Napoleonic or Civil War era with those things whipping through the ranks...utterly terrifying!
Funny everyone was acting so careful around the black powder charge and doing a very diligent and careful job of putting in the charge and cannon ball and ramming it in. Back in the day they would have been flying and firing as fast as possible. Thumbs Up if you would love to see a long line of 50+ cannons firing real cannon balls at a target one right after another just like they were.
was this things shoot against infantry or just against enemy forts ? I would wounder what this cannon ball can do against infantry that was in this time still marshing into formations into battle
Nice shooting and beautiful cannon! My CW group live fires our 6 lbers with 1.5lbs of black powder behind the ball and we can hit targets out at 900 yards with that charge. We've also tried speedloading and can get a round off about every 40 seconds. During the CW, an experienced gun crew would be firing a round every 30 seconds. Amazing firepower in these cannons!
I wonder why a musket fired ball projectile couldn't shoot accurately at 200 yards distance, yet a smooth bore cannon ball could achieve reasonable accuracy? Is it because cannon balls are bigger and heavier?
@paulchukc That's part of it. The more massive ball is less subject to deflection, and any casting irregularities are evened out. Though smoothbore muskets with a snug fit are more accurate than people think they are.
@LutzDerLurch To answer all three of your questions: Marshall Steen's cannons are cast solid, then bored, and I believe he might manufacture a few Revolutionary-period guns in addition to the mid-19th Century stuff. To my knowledge, most of his barrels are available in iron or bronze, with bronze being more expensive and more subject to pricing volatility. I don't think you can enter a URL on YouTube, so search for Steen Cannons.
@johnnyjoeiv Thank you very much, Sir. I had a glimpse on their Website, and there are a few things that confuse me a little bit. I would prefer a bronze Cannon not to be lined with steel tubing etc.
@LutzDerLurch He doesn't line the bronze guns with steel, so far as I know. I believe he just lines the iron ones for safety reasons. The smoothbore in this video is not lined.
@johnnyjoeiv Ah, so you are one of the Persons to eny for your Gun? :D
I have been collecting all Data available on my favourite cannon, the british light 6pounder, and can do the Woodworking myself. I have friends for the forged Iron Parts and could even make the Pattern for the Casting of the Barrel. But I am afraid it is very difficult to find Information about the correct alloy to cast such a Piece. It would be quite sad to see thousands of Euro blowing up upon proofing. :(
@LutzDerLurch That would, indeed, be unfortunate. I do know that Steen X-rays all of the barrels before he delivers them, and that the first iteration of this barrel was melted down and re-cast, as it did not pass initial quality checks. Sadly, I don't have any information about the alloy, but good luck, and let us know how it works out!
Well the major Problem is the very limited Budget, and I am sitting in Germany. So any purchase from the States would be made more expensive by a hefty 2X % tax fee, not to mention shipping and Handling of some 600 Pounds of Bronze.
Also, having the Gun cast here, would eliminate the costs that arise from paying a business to finifh it. Finish of the Outside can easily be done by hand files and sanding paper, as back in the old days.
@johnnyjoeiv And as every Gun has to be officially proofed, and We intend to use authentic loads, the metal must be about perfect, to withstand the proofing. As far as my Research goes, the british Sixpounder was proofed with 3 lbs, of Powder, and the servicecharge was 1 1/2 lbs. and the Powder was not significantly less powerfull, it was less high quality in terms of consistenca, so one Shot might be extremely explosive compared to the next Shot from another batch of powder.
@johnnyjoeiv So given the high safeguard amounts of metal of the old days combined with the undoubtedly higher quality of the casting and metallurgy, the gun if well-cast should shoot absolutely perfectly. still, it is a strage feeling to have X.000 Euros paid with a chance to blow it up...
@LutzDerLurch Well, obviously, you'll have a much safer gun with Bronze than you would with Iron! Why not contact Steen directly about the alloy? Also, I'm not sure what the specs are on the British 6-pounder, but this barrel required 863lbs of Bronze.
@sousswine Well, the original would be of Bronze, and when bored weight roughly some 9 cwt. 1 qt. 4 lb. according to original plans. I had a nice conversation with these guys just an hour ago.an they realy seem to be nice guys with loads of knowledge. Although having a Gun made without Steel liner is a bit of gamble.
This may be a stupid question yet... did you purchase the Cannon, did you build it yourself (Some people make Home-Made Replicas) or what? Just Curious
@drod103164 It's attached to a friction primer, a device that was simple and quick to use, yet extremely effective. It consisted of two small brass tubes, a serrated wire, friction composition, and fine, black powder. In use, the wire was hooked to the lanyard and the long tube inserted into the vent. A steady, quick pull on the lanyard dragged the serrated wire across the friction composition igniting it and setting off the black powder which flashed down the tube and vent, firing the cannon.
@gregsz1ful as for the 1700s and military loads to maximise the power , a cylindrical bag made from Flanell, Linnen etc, was filled with the Powder (english light 6pounder: 1 1/2 Pounds of Powder). For rapidfiring there were prepared Charges where very thin Sheetmetalsprapf held the Iron Ball to a woden Sabbot, which in turn was tied to the textile Bag.
I love that you are firing this at such high powder levels – unlike most reanactors these days. I hate in movies how guns have no recoil. This is the type of reenactment I want to get into. Keep it up!
@rockndude87 Effective range with a full charge is around 1800 yards. Most of the shots in this video were from 200 yards, which is the competition range for this cannon. (Yes, it's surprising, but there are serious competitions for this). Of course, attempts at accuracy with a small-calibre smoothbore gun are slightly ridiculous; these guns were designed as anti-personell weapons in an era of close-ranks infantry. We attempt to shoot accurately just for the fun of it.
Not sure why they're firing at a target that's barely 50 yards in front of them. Those cannons could easily fire accurately at a couple miles. And at that range a soldier would mind as well be firing at them with their rifles instead....Learn to fire like the actual solders did instead...
I've never actually fired one, but as I understand it: The shooter places a pointed pin, which creates a spark in friction, into a hole near the breech; right above where the powder is, piercing the powder container. The pin is attached to a string, which is pulled sharply, creating friction and igniting the powder. Like striking a match.
I am in the process of building the carraige for a 12 pounder from scratch, soon afterwhich to acquire a barrel. This is getting me pretty excited. Nice gun. Is it home built? And where did you get the barrel?
If you're referring to the shot at 2:16, good catch. But that shot is there as an editing expediency, and is not actually related to the loading shot which precedes it. Rest assured that the touch-hole was always thumbed (we've still got all our limbs).
don't wanted to be an ass but i love the civil war competetion. sorry i didn't know that your competetors as well. but you got people who buy artillery pieces as well don't know what the hell they are doing.
Thanks for posting this! I'd like to see a youtube contest between civil war cannon owners. Live fire accuracy tests at specified ranges with 6 and 12 pounders.
The accuracy of this smoothbore is very impressive.
Something that takes two hours in 2011, took thirty seconds in 1861.
TheBullMoose95 1 month ago
Bully!
ablethreefourbravo 3 months ago
Ramming with a handspike? Why??
orpheus1814 4 months ago
@orpheus1814 It's not a handspike. It's a safety rammer designed to rip fewer of your digits off in the event of a premature detonation.
sousswine 4 months ago
@sousswine With a safety-conscious gun crew and proper precautions (tending the vent with a moistened thumbstall, worming, sponging the barrel between rounds, holding the rammer with palms up), a period-correct rammer should be just fine. I've served as cannonneer #2 on a number of muzzle loaders for years and trust in training, proper equipment, and St. Barbara. Good luck with your 6-pounder, it looks like a fine piece.
orpheus1814 4 months ago
Awesome!!
wjp255 5 months ago
Long, long time ago, when cannons were real cannons...
Scoutrussp7 5 months ago
Great vid!
MauserKar98k 6 months ago
Are you not all a bit mutton?
Demon69UK 6 months ago
Cooooooooooooooooool
MrHelmyabdullah 6 months ago
Seeing that ball flying was pretty intense. Imagining myself back in the Napoleonic or Civil War era with those things whipping through the ranks...utterly terrifying!
Great vid!
MeAtLoAfInTime 7 months ago 2
Can you go hunting with one?
mgibbs88 8 months ago
Funny everyone was acting so careful around the black powder charge and doing a very diligent and careful job of putting in the charge and cannon ball and ramming it in. Back in the day they would have been flying and firing as fast as possible. Thumbs Up if you would love to see a long line of 50+ cannons firing real cannon balls at a target one right after another just like they were.
Boredout454 8 months ago 5
learn proper drill.
24thvolunteer 8 months ago
Is that bronze?
Stantzs 9 months ago
@Stantzs i think it is :D hope it dont melts from the heat XD
gamepowners88 8 months ago
You guys sure have a fun hobby.
xvoy2002 9 months ago
very accurate considering the family history of cannons!!
please do one where you shoot a car from long range! that would be awesome!
Greno 10 months ago
was this things shoot against infantry or just against enemy forts ? I would wounder what this cannon ball can do against infantry that was in this time still marshing into formations into battle
ac3b1s 10 months ago
Lovely accuracy! :)
BjoernKarlsson 10 months ago
that cannon is awfully narrow to squeeze a circus midget into
fir3pimp 10 months ago
Nice shooting and beautiful cannon! My CW group live fires our 6 lbers with 1.5lbs of black powder behind the ball and we can hit targets out at 900 yards with that charge. We've also tried speedloading and can get a round off about every 40 seconds. During the CW, an experienced gun crew would be firing a round every 30 seconds. Amazing firepower in these cannons!
61loneviking 10 months ago
Beautiful and terrifying weapon
Tlax13 11 months ago
I wonder why a musket fired ball projectile couldn't shoot accurately at 200 yards distance, yet a smooth bore cannon ball could achieve reasonable accuracy? Is it because cannon balls are bigger and heavier?
paulchukc 11 months ago
@paulchukc That's part of it. The more massive ball is less subject to deflection, and any casting irregularities are evened out. Though smoothbore muskets with a snug fit are more accurate than people think they are.
mzmadmike 10 months ago
Gotta love the classics. :P
TheLegitReaper 11 months ago
how much did the cannon cost and where u get it from ?? please reply someone
chowowner1 1 year ago
@chowowner1 This cannon was manufactured by Marshall Steen of Steen Cannons.
sousswine 1 year ago
@sousswine Do they manufacture only Civil-war Cannons, or can they also make others as well. And are they Cast?
LutzDerLurch 1 year ago
@sousswine Do you know of a Company making Cannons from bronze only?
LutzDerLurch 1 year ago
@LutzDerLurch To answer all three of your questions: Marshall Steen's cannons are cast solid, then bored, and I believe he might manufacture a few Revolutionary-period guns in addition to the mid-19th Century stuff. To my knowledge, most of his barrels are available in iron or bronze, with bronze being more expensive and more subject to pricing volatility. I don't think you can enter a URL on YouTube, so search for Steen Cannons.
johnnyjoeiv 1 year ago
@johnnyjoeiv Thank you very much, Sir. I had a glimpse on their Website, and there are a few things that confuse me a little bit. I would prefer a bronze Cannon not to be lined with steel tubing etc.
LutzDerLurch 1 year ago
@LutzDerLurch He doesn't line the bronze guns with steel, so far as I know. I believe he just lines the iron ones for safety reasons. The smoothbore in this video is not lined.
johnnyjoeiv 1 year ago
@johnnyjoeiv Ah, so you are one of the Persons to eny for your Gun? :D
I have been collecting all Data available on my favourite cannon, the british light 6pounder, and can do the Woodworking myself. I have friends for the forged Iron Parts and could even make the Pattern for the Casting of the Barrel. But I am afraid it is very difficult to find Information about the correct alloy to cast such a Piece. It would be quite sad to see thousands of Euro blowing up upon proofing. :(
LutzDerLurch 1 year ago
@LutzDerLurch That would, indeed, be unfortunate. I do know that Steen X-rays all of the barrels before he delivers them, and that the first iteration of this barrel was melted down and re-cast, as it did not pass initial quality checks. Sadly, I don't have any information about the alloy, but good luck, and let us know how it works out!
johnnyjoeiv 1 year ago
@johnnyjoeiv Hi!
Well the major Problem is the very limited Budget, and I am sitting in Germany. So any purchase from the States would be made more expensive by a hefty 2X % tax fee, not to mention shipping and Handling of some 600 Pounds of Bronze.
Also, having the Gun cast here, would eliminate the costs that arise from paying a business to finifh it. Finish of the Outside can easily be done by hand files and sanding paper, as back in the old days.
LutzDerLurch 1 year ago
@johnnyjoeiv And as every Gun has to be officially proofed, and We intend to use authentic loads, the metal must be about perfect, to withstand the proofing. As far as my Research goes, the british Sixpounder was proofed with 3 lbs, of Powder, and the servicecharge was 1 1/2 lbs. and the Powder was not significantly less powerfull, it was less high quality in terms of consistenca, so one Shot might be extremely explosive compared to the next Shot from another batch of powder.
LutzDerLurch 1 year ago
@johnnyjoeiv So given the high safeguard amounts of metal of the old days combined with the undoubtedly higher quality of the casting and metallurgy, the gun if well-cast should shoot absolutely perfectly. still, it is a strage feeling to have X.000 Euros paid with a chance to blow it up...
Very difficult thing... :(
LutzDerLurch 1 year ago
@LutzDerLurch Well, obviously, you'll have a much safer gun with Bronze than you would with Iron! Why not contact Steen directly about the alloy? Also, I'm not sure what the specs are on the British 6-pounder, but this barrel required 863lbs of Bronze.
sousswine 1 year ago
@sousswine Well, the original would be of Bronze, and when bored weight roughly some 9 cwt. 1 qt. 4 lb. according to original plans. I had a nice conversation with these guys just an hour ago.an they realy seem to be nice guys with loads of knowledge. Although having a Gun made without Steel liner is a bit of gamble.
LutzDerLurch 1 year ago
This may be a stupid question yet... did you purchase the Cannon, did you build it yourself (Some people make Home-Made Replicas) or what? Just Curious
Iceman5164 1 year ago
Is there a national competition for this kind of activities?
merakhagen 1 year ago
what sick man dislikes this
SinperTheFox 1 year ago
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What size is the bore ans cannonball size ?
I have a 2.75 inch ball I found in the Ca. desert near Barstow. Visible rusting even though it from the desert.
gregsz1ful 1 year ago
What size is the bore ans cannonball size ?
I have a 2.75 inch ball I found in the Ca. desert near Barstow. Visable rusting even though it from the desert.
gregsz1ful 1 year ago
what does pulling the string do? how does it set fire to the powder?
drod103164 1 year ago
@drod103164 It's attached to a friction primer, a device that was simple and quick to use, yet extremely effective. It consisted of two small brass tubes, a serrated wire, friction composition, and fine, black powder. In use, the wire was hooked to the lanyard and the long tube inserted into the vent. A steady, quick pull on the lanyard dragged the serrated wire across the friction composition igniting it and setting off the black powder which flashed down the tube and vent, firing the cannon.
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gregsz1ful 1 year ago
@sousswine or you just say yes XD
gamepowners88 8 months ago
Aluminum foil and blue tape. I would like to see how its really done !!
gregsz1ful 1 year ago
@gregsz1ful as for the 1700s and military loads to maximise the power , a cylindrical bag made from Flanell, Linnen etc, was filled with the Powder (english light 6pounder: 1 1/2 Pounds of Powder). For rapidfiring there were prepared Charges where very thin Sheetmetalsprapf held the Iron Ball to a woden Sabbot, which in turn was tied to the textile Bag.
LutzDerLurch 1 year ago
I love that you are firing this at such high powder levels – unlike most reanactors these days. I hate in movies how guns have no recoil. This is the type of reenactment I want to get into. Keep it up!
HrafnkelHarthrathi 1 year ago
@kglenn86 It will if you have good elevation to begin with...
rockndude87 1 year ago
@rockndude87 Effective range with a full charge is around 1800 yards. Most of the shots in this video were from 200 yards, which is the competition range for this cannon. (Yes, it's surprising, but there are serious competitions for this). Of course, attempts at accuracy with a small-calibre smoothbore gun are slightly ridiculous; these guns were designed as anti-personell weapons in an era of close-ranks infantry. We attempt to shoot accurately just for the fun of it.
sousswine 1 year ago
Not sure why they're firing at a target that's barely 50 yards in front of them. Those cannons could easily fire accurately at a couple miles. And at that range a soldier would mind as well be firing at them with their rifles instead....Learn to fire like the actual solders did instead...
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AardLlama 1 year ago
@Crankypants:
200 yards, see reply to 8oz comment above.
Artillerymen did not have rifles :)~
AardLlama 1 year ago
can you buy one of these
dbirdsofprey 1 year ago
How does the fuse work ???
soylicantropo 1 year ago
@soylicantropo
I've never actually fired one, but as I understand it: The shooter places a pointed pin, which creates a spark in friction, into a hole near the breech; right above where the powder is, piercing the powder container. The pin is attached to a string, which is pulled sharply, creating friction and igniting the powder. Like striking a match.
E2theSamps 1 year ago
you can see the cannon ball even in real time, not that fast i guess
TheOneToxic 1 year ago
0:50 - 0:54 reminds me of sex!
tmntsplinterdude 1 year ago
can you fire it with a canister round full on nice lead balls???
georgewashington92 1 year ago
@georgewashington92 Funny you should ask; we tried that for the first time this weekend. The result was pleasantly destructive.
sousswine 1 year ago
Poor tree =(
tulapi123 1 year ago
8oz? i thought the service charge on these bad boys was much bigger.
fiddler317 1 year ago
@fiddler317 True, but we're only shooting 200 yards. Effective range with a full charge is 1800 yards.
sousswine 1 year ago
That is awesome that the ball got wedged into the tree.
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MilesBennetDyson 1 year ago
awesome!
love how you can see the cannonball in the air
ironbmike 1 year ago
What do you think Jim is this close to the operation, that
Frank C. talked about at the CWPT?
joemc111 1 year ago
Gorgeous cannon, they are such amazing things, shame they are built to kill people.
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GETTYSBURGbook 1 year ago
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mzmadmike 10 months ago
nice work!
AirrowRocket 2 years ago
hey i actually got to fire one of those and i'm only 12
novakmast21 2 years ago
I always liked the 12 pound napolian, good cannon nice range too for its type and age,
kirkconway 2 years ago
Fascinating stuff.
KnightOwl2006 2 years ago
excellent video!
great footage, and great cannon!
very, very cool
ddog7831 2 years ago
Way Cool!
henrygreiner 2 years ago
Superb cannon vid! The ball in the tree! WOW!
bluerazors 2 years ago 15
Saw some fireing today at the South carolina gun show 1 pound an a half charge. Loudest thing i have ever heard, the shock wave was insane.
jangalomph 2 years ago
you should put lots of silverware in the cannon
zombieX111222333 2 years ago
nice
angelicsnoww 2 years ago
Might try Cannon Mania, they produce guns in iron or bronze, or, Hern Ironworks they have a nice selection, but in iron only.
beardo52 2 years ago
I am in the process of building the carraige for a 12 pounder from scratch, soon afterwhich to acquire a barrel. This is getting me pretty excited. Nice gun. Is it home built? And where did you get the barrel?
tmallow2004 2 years ago
Is that a Cannon Ltd 12 pounder? My uncle has the same exact one, I believe...
whtlghtn49 2 years ago
It's actually a six-pounder from Marshall Steen.
sousswine 2 years ago
WHOAAA! Rediculousley cool!! Good sound and editing! Good job boys!
TristenEugene 2 years ago
close the vent hole gosh, people
soltis22 2 years ago
If you're referring to the shot at 2:16, good catch. But that shot is there as an editing expediency, and is not actually related to the loading shot which precedes it. Rest assured that the touch-hole was always thumbed (we've still got all our limbs).
sousswine 2 years ago
don't wanted to be an ass but i love the civil war competetion. sorry i didn't know that your competetors as well. but you got people who buy artillery pieces as well don't know what the hell they are doing.
but i am just checking out for are guys and gals.
soltis22 2 years ago
Incredible stuff! cheers for uploading
haydenkcole 2 years ago
what kind exactly is it? and where did u get? and also how much?
yoho951 2 years ago
Awesome! Simply awesome. I want one.
bhicks1052 3 years ago
First off, great video. Second, I'm quite jealous, lol. Keep up the great vids yall. I look forward to more great works in the future!
shggyswmmer 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this! I'd like to see a youtube contest between civil war cannon owners. Live fire accuracy tests at specified ranges with 6 and 12 pounders.
The accuracy of this smoothbore is very impressive.
Thanks to all who make this clip possible
dogterd 3 years ago
Fun!
barnstormerpictures 3 years ago