This is more closed minded than Christian/religious beliefs. You take the stories from the Bible- Adam and Eve and Noah, and make out that if God exists than they definately do too. No chance that they might just be stories with moral messages? It makes more sense to believe that God isnt omniscient, but just very powerful, following on from your argument that if he knew what would happen then he wouldnt/shouldnt have done it.
I presume the Christian god is an omniscient being, only because Christians have told me as much and attempted to back it up with scripture.
Of course it isn't literal - it's nonsense. You needn't convinvce me of that.
The first thing I stated were two options; that he was not omniscient, OR that he was sadistic. I then explained why I thought omniscience (considering the outcome) and omnibenevolence were not compatible.
Are you certain we disagree as much as you think we do?
It just seemed from the video that you had ruled out any possibility of Gods existence because you didnt look at both options, only the one that suited you better.
actually it pretty much did look at both options quite well with one shot, Its Either That God Doesn't Know Everything, Or It Does And Wanted To Create Things He Knew Would Cause Massive Pain And Suffering, And Still In The End Punish His Own Creations That He Knew Would Turn Out That Way.... Either He Knew This Would Happen And Was OK With This, Or Didn't Know WTF Would Happen, Either Way, He Either Can't Know Everything, Or CAN'T Be All GOOD, VERY UNWORTHY OF THE LOVING TITLE And WORSHIP
But seriously... what I find impressive is to have finally found out that I wasn't the only one having those views on what appeared obvious to me. Most of my life I felt like an outcast and for decades I wondered why people couldn't or wouldn't notice what was so wrong in scriptures and religion. As a matter of fact I went through precisely the same thought process and questioning as seen in the vid. Anyways... thumbs up!
I Felt THe Same Way For Years, Its Great Tho That My 2 Best Friends Are Also Atheist, Because Its Like Everybody Else Is Afraid To Speak Out On The Truth About These Fairy Tales... To Me The Bible Is Like Aesop's Fables, or Ananci The Spider Fables... They Try To Teach U A Lesson, But It's So Ridiculous For One To Document These As Facts... The Bible Just Happens 2 Have 2 Main Recurring Characters, God And Satan... And To Me, Satan Seems Like The Nicer One, That God Guy Is Like A Toddler
GOD IS A SADIST.
THUMB ME UP IF YOU HATE GOD.
TheKiemaster 1 year ago
GOD IS THE ULTIMUNTE DICTATOR.
THE ULTIMUNTE EVIL.
THE ULTIMUNTE SINNER.
THUMB ME UP IF YOU HATE GOD.
TheKiemaster 1 year ago
jeebus loves you.
immayhem 4 years ago
This is more closed minded than Christian/religious beliefs. You take the stories from the Bible- Adam and Eve and Noah, and make out that if God exists than they definately do too. No chance that they might just be stories with moral messages? It makes more sense to believe that God isnt omniscient, but just very powerful, following on from your argument that if he knew what would happen then he wouldnt/shouldnt have done it.
Well made video though.
monkeydashunderscore 4 years ago
I presume the Christian god is an omniscient being, only because Christians have told me as much and attempted to back it up with scripture.
Of course it isn't literal - it's nonsense. You needn't convinvce me of that.
The first thing I stated were two options; that he was not omniscient, OR that he was sadistic. I then explained why I thought omniscience (considering the outcome) and omnibenevolence were not compatible.
Are you certain we disagree as much as you think we do?
And thanks.
godlesswonder 4 years ago
It just seemed from the video that you had ruled out any possibility of Gods existence because you didnt look at both options, only the one that suited you better.
monkeydashunderscore 4 years ago
actually it pretty much did look at both options quite well with one shot, Its Either That God Doesn't Know Everything, Or It Does And Wanted To Create Things He Knew Would Cause Massive Pain And Suffering, And Still In The End Punish His Own Creations That He Knew Would Turn Out That Way.... Either He Knew This Would Happen And Was OK With This, Or Didn't Know WTF Would Happen, Either Way, He Either Can't Know Everything, Or CAN'T Be All GOOD, VERY UNWORTHY OF THE LOVING TITLE And WORSHIP
Looneveli 3 years ago
You got that exactly right.
godlesswonder 3 years ago
I guess we're in agreement then.
youmeandsomeknives 4 years ago
Impressive young Jedi!
But seriously... what I find impressive is to have finally found out that I wasn't the only one having those views on what appeared obvious to me. Most of my life I felt like an outcast and for decades I wondered why people couldn't or wouldn't notice what was so wrong in scriptures and religion. As a matter of fact I went through precisely the same thought process and questioning as seen in the vid. Anyways... thumbs up!
EctoBuzz 4 years ago
I Felt THe Same Way For Years, Its Great Tho That My 2 Best Friends Are Also Atheist, Because Its Like Everybody Else Is Afraid To Speak Out On The Truth About These Fairy Tales... To Me The Bible Is Like Aesop's Fables, or Ananci The Spider Fables... They Try To Teach U A Lesson, But It's So Ridiculous For One To Document These As Facts... The Bible Just Happens 2 Have 2 Main Recurring Characters, God And Satan... And To Me, Satan Seems Like The Nicer One, That God Guy Is Like A Toddler
Looneveli 3 years ago
5 stars man!
sauzer83 4 years ago
Thanks much! ;)
godlesswonder 4 years ago
Happy to give you 5 stars. Good work!
Netwriter 4 years ago 2
Hey thanks man! Just found you, good stuff for certain.
godlesswonder 4 years ago
and I found both of you and both are great!
jonhattanrai 4 years ago