No I was checkin on wiki pedia . They range from 50 m to 200 m
I'm not sure if it's the mp5a2 that does the 200 metres because the lay out on the wiki list is a bit messed up. Or I'm not reading it right. Thanks anyway
@GEtuP4deTh yo k, but this weapon is everything but not loud. what you hear is only the noise of the shell casings get shot out. there is no sound of explosion of propelling charge anymore. you will never get a weapon more silent like this. 100m away from this you would here nothing.
@ShizZoPhrEniA in all fairness, cod has brought alot of attention to the gun market... i cant say that i like the attitudes that some idiots have but i sure as hell dont mind the bizz in my shop.
@joemrp05 I think he meant "properly armored". The subsonic (slower than 330 m/s) 9mm rounds don't cause a big impact, even in a burst. A civilian body armor would be enough to give near - I said near - immunity to the target (of course, assuming all bullets hit only the armored torso).
Besides, subsonic 9mm doesn't cause hydrostatic shock in unarmored targets (much less armored ones), but the permanent cavity is enough to disable most of them.
@kim0mandelli mp5 SD doesnt need to use subsonic ammo to be this quiet, regular is fine with this model for super quiet operation. Read about the barrel if your curious.
@Trustds07 I think the MP7 uses a rifle round....although it's a very small rifle round so you could almost call it a dart. I've never actually seen one but I've heard they will punch through armor and if they'll do that, they'll go through the occasional wall.... I can see the uses of something like that as a personal weapon for tank crews etc., but I think it would be a bit risky in a hostage situation....you might go straight through the bad guy and hit the innocent behind him.
The MP5 is so nice. But the MP5K is like comon. No barrel no stock. If you want a gun that short go for a P90 and even then the MP7 is what was made to be the counter part of the P90.
You realize that they train with the MP5 to do double taps. If you know how to shoot 9mm will kill someone with 1 shot, no problem. Like the one SEAL operator says "but some people say 'oh it's only a 9mm', that doesnt matter when I put two in your heart and one in your head".
@AntiPsychopath well it depends on what your doing it hurts range and ads length to the gun depending on what your shooting some subguns have a suppressor built like on some mp5's and some suppressors require subsonic ammunition, and they are not silencers they are suppressors.
@AntiPsychopath There is none what people call silencers are suppressors. And sometimes you need more power than an mp5 ie m4 g36.223 rounds mp5 is 9mm and dose not carry alot of take down power at any kind of range.
Just saw this gun fired at the range.Its really not that quiet. But within a closed area,you better have a quick trigger finger or your done as soon as thay pull theirs.
In my opinion (which i believe is at least somewhat shared by Special Forces) this is the finest and the most deadly weapon in the world. no flash. no sound. no compromises.
The MP5SD is the coolest looking submachine gun but lacks stopping power. The HK53 is basically the same gun but shoots the 5.56 mm m-16 round. Now that's a real ass kicker.
The p90 and mp7 are not regarded as "true" smgs, but rather personal defense weapons though. They don't use regular pistol ammo, and i have heard that the 9mm lacks much of the punch and penetration needed against modern day body armors
@ScullCandy56 The problem is even though the MP7A1 and P90 can penetrate class III body armor it cannot suppress the round because there firing at supersonic speeds.
@IMFDB they can suppress the round, as most suppressors used with those types of firearms reduce the velocity of the bullets as they pass through the suppressor, thus taking away the sonic boom as they no longer travel at supersonic speeds
@ScullCandy56 I guess so but that would depend on the suppressor the only suppressor I know that can reduce the speed for sure is a MP5SD with a integrated suppressor.
@FirearmsAddict Zacdayak63 must be a complete idiot, the russian vss is 9mm and it can pierce 1 1/2 cm thick armour at 400m easily , fair play its got a bigger shell but its stil a 9mm. :)
@MempihsJack You dont understand, weapons dont have to be 100% perfect. If you get hit by a round thats almost a centimeter thick, your pretty fucked.
@FirearmsAddict i know that they arent,but if you have a proper vest on and the guy shoots you in the chest for example,you wont die that fast.like i said,youve to go headshot.but normally,yes,youre right.not every1 has the cash to buy kevlar though.and even,i love the the 5:),cause you wont have problems finding bullets for it,9mm are everywhere unlike the 4.6 ammo of the new 7... :l
@FirearmsAddict agreed, when tht round flattens inside you it gonna leave a badass whole and , if ur trained to a high standard like the Seals OR SaS you use double tap unless notified on fire at will basis..... either way theyre fucked :P
Yeah, you see that little ammo marker on the bottom left of your screen? That means you are playing a video game. Out here in real life, a slug that thick traveling at many times the speed of sound will pretty much turn whatever it hits into a big, gaping hole. Here in the real world, you take things like hydrostatic shock and stopping power into consideration. And no, I'm not talking about the COD4 perk.
i dont even have that game that you were talking about, the codseries are shit anyway,if you want some real action then go css,no heli, jetfighter etc. only YOU and a gun, but anyway. im a sportshooter and i rly believe that i know a lot about ballistics,probably more than you,AND: IF you have proper armor,one single 9mm bullet wont stop you,it will only knock you down.only a whole mag would have the power to really kill you.make you researchs on dragonskin, dumbass
CSS is realistic? I'm sorry, but you essentialy just destroyed your credibility for a second. I have worked with various small arms in the United States Army for almost a decade of my life, and it makes me just a little twitchy when people start spouting bullshit about weapons. It's bad enough as is with Hollywood on the lose. And, DUH any modern ceramic vest stops 9mm, they're all rated to at least level 3a which includes everything up to .30cal. Don't need dragonskin to do that.
well,the way of playing the is more realistic than a lot other AND newer games,for an endtime scenario for example...anyway,so you just like to pissin off people for some reason, because youre no happy with something in your life or do you just need to take a piss?
yeah man,whatever.the new arma is the biggest crap ive ever heard,i dont even have it,my dudes do and they say its shit like the new operation flashpoint, not even coming close to the old ones.you dont seem to have much of knowledge dont you?!?just hot air from youre mouth,oh sry,i forgot,you're american.not all,but the most of yours are shittalkers like yourself,giving answers to questions which noboody asked you,and nso now go and take and take piss.
Again, the phrase "comes close" does not imply the reality. CSS is unrealistic because most modern combat takes place over 300 meters, when in CSS it is a few feet at most. When you get that down, in a game such as ArmA 2, all the AI complaints go out the window.
I'm sorry, but when did I give an answer to a question you didn't ask? You are flustered and must resort to swearing and ad homenim because you know you are wrong.
yeah man,thats the way youre looking at it,there are scenarios calling: close quarter combat,but i think you know that already.anyway,thats why it sarts,mp5 cqc,so f..k your 3000 mters.......
CQB happens about once every blue moon in anti-insurgency campaigns. You really have absolutely no clue what you are talking about, just like every other 13 year old your age.
yeahyeah, whatever. unlike you i REALLY do sportsshooting,10m, 50m and 300m.like it's usual here in europe, and im way over 13!!! so keep your "i know everything better than anyone"_mouth shut, and go and play with your little toys you stupid yankee...cause i never saked you anything, you just came and being an asshole like most of the guys from your country!
suuure, you are, and thats why youre saying it here in public.LIE MORE...
and btw, i didnt say that i hate america, i said that the most of the people there are just fat and stupid, the country in beautiful.and my name is wrong, i know. because some1 used it be4 me, and i didnt want to change it.looking to that point,you must be a very sry sob man...OUT, no more time for such silly bullshit
@MempihsJack Yeah, no matter what, it's still metal tearing through your flesh and organs, if you don't go down due to sheer pain, leaving you paralyzed, you'll go down because those rounds destroyed something really important, like your spine, heart, or even brain.
The MP7 is H&K's response to the FN P90 after they showed them up with the FAL (which was better than the G3). If I had the choice, I'd go with the P90 over the MP7 ANY day.
The only H&K weapons I like (that I havn't shot yet) are the Mk23 and the G36. The 416 looks nice, but it's basically an AR-15 with a piston. Heck, they even use the same lower-reciever.
The FAL didn't show up the G3. The G3 has far less recoil firing the same round. The G3's delayed roller locking system is far better designed than the FAL's STG run around. P90 vs MP7. It's a close contest, but I choose neither. KAC PDW is what I would choose over either of them.
It depends on the round. The G36 only fires the 5.56 NATO, which generates far less energy then the 7.62 NATO, both in felt recoil and raw take down power, so the roller delayed system would be a waste and only weigh the soldier down more.
@Zacdayak63 A 4.6x29mm round from an MP7A1 cannot pierce body armor because of the slow speed of the bullet. There is no suppressed compact rifle or SMG that can penetrate class III body armor. Unless you want to use supersonic rounds then the suppressor would be useless.
the sound is not real because i know the orriginal video (HK advertisement)
F0XSQUAD 3 months ago
If it was legal to own assault weapons in my state, I would buy myself an MP5.
BloodySawBlade 3 months ago
WTF
12Kurdt 5 months ago
"Subscribe, I post many videos weekly"
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99LOLWUT 6 months ago
those guys look fuckin bad ass
Hardboi01 6 months ago
HOLY FUCK!
SirNikko422 7 months ago
Are those guns realy that quiet? It seems kinda strange to me but I dont realy know a lot about guns. Anybody knows?
Korvan1993 7 months ago
@Korvan1993 while nothing will compare to hearing it in person, for your consideration:
watch?v=vHWvOd58nxk&NR=1
Coogah88 7 months ago
@Korvan1993 oops, just stumbled across a better quality: watch?v=oUlk5KY77Y0
Coogah88 7 months ago
@Korvan1993 its because of the built-in silencer. without that you probably wouldn't want to shoot it without ear protection.
TizzButAScratch 5 months ago
Sounds like an airsoft gun.... It did a good job at being quite.
GeneralCange 7 months ago
@GeneralCange
The H&K patented this suppressor and it works very well. These are real MP5SDs.
NeoNSPETSNAZ 7 months ago
@NeoNSPETSNAZ I know they are real, I was saying that they are so quite they could be airsoft guns. I see why they patented it.
GeneralCange 7 months ago
@GeneralCange
OK man. Yeah...it works very well. I can see why the Navy Seals use it!
NeoNSPETSNAZ 7 months ago
No I was checkin on wiki pedia . They range from 50 m to 200 m
I'm not sure if it's the mp5a2 that does the 200 metres because the lay out on the wiki list is a bit messed up. Or I'm not reading it right. Thanks anyway
SuperVeshi 8 months ago
Which mp5 has the best effective firing range???
SuperVeshi 8 months ago
@SuperVeshi I guess the regular one does, since silencers lessen your range. But for the unsilenced ones the difference is not significant.
rollydodie 8 months ago
special operations have their hands on the latest and greatest
this gun is a little outdated compared to whats out today
mrfrosty8172 9 months ago
Mp5 ! Best Weapon 4ever
GermanSo1dier123 9 months ago
ITS SO FUCKING LOUD!!!!!!!
GEtuP4deTh 9 months ago
@GEtuP4deTh go play modern warfare, boy.
ShizZoPhrEniA 9 months ago
@ShizZoPhrEniA cod isnt really mah stile
GEtuP4deTh 9 months ago
@GEtuP4deTh yo k, but this weapon is everything but not loud. what you hear is only the noise of the shell casings get shot out. there is no sound of explosion of propelling charge anymore. you will never get a weapon more silent like this. 100m away from this you would here nothing.
ShizZoPhrEniA 9 months ago
@ShizZoPhrEniA i was joking
GEtuP4deTh 9 months ago
@ShizZoPhrEniA in all fairness, cod has brought alot of attention to the gun market... i cant say that i like the attitudes that some idiots have but i sure as hell dont mind the bizz in my shop.
Rdlerke 8 months ago
@GEtuP4deTh yes, even though it's supressed it still is very loud thats why it can damage your ears.
WIIrOcKs10 9 months ago
Straight up rainbow six right there!
metalrave 11 months ago
SAS haha lol or swat
codmw2dylan 11 months ago
@codmw2dylan I think it's SBS
Special Boat Service
alynwhite 10 months ago
It's Rainbow Six!
BulletFoss 11 months ago
you dont hear shit XD
reallink2000 1 year ago
jajjajjajaja el sonidio jajajjaja,,,,pero bien qe mata xD
EfraJr17 1 year ago
Wow, pretty amazing. MP5s are probably one of the quietest subs when suppressed. It's only about as loud as a high powered nail gun.
mastersgta1 1 year ago
@mastersgta1 The MP5 sounds like a bloody truck compared to some of the Russia weapons. АС Вал for example and its a fucking sniper rifle as well.
dahsandgrub 1 year ago
@dahsandgrub you obviously havent heard a mp5sd3 with subsonic ammunition then
sethboy66 1 year ago
it sounds so cool.
Cobetck19 1 year ago
Cool.
GunShard 1 year ago
just pull up your volume to max then play this. Nasty sound
TobyMailer 1 year ago
They do look badass with their masks. To bad the third guy didnt shoot.
ghost6813 1 year ago
@joemrp05 I think he meant "properly armored". The subsonic (slower than 330 m/s) 9mm rounds don't cause a big impact, even in a burst. A civilian body armor would be enough to give near - I said near - immunity to the target (of course, assuming all bullets hit only the armored torso).
Besides, subsonic 9mm doesn't cause hydrostatic shock in unarmored targets (much less armored ones), but the permanent cavity is enough to disable most of them.
kim0mandelli 1 year ago
@kim0mandelli mp5 SD doesnt need to use subsonic ammo to be this quiet, regular is fine with this model for super quiet operation. Read about the barrel if your curious.
defm1 1 year ago
@blackjack427r Agreed! Haha I still play that
yougotk 1 year ago
haha..the 3rd guy didn't get to shoot..
fhhs05 1 year ago
sounds like a bb gun
zebracherub 1 year ago
cool:D
nikki4562 1 year ago
The return of rambow six, LOL.
blackjack427r 1 year ago
our german KSK (like seals,..) dont use that weapon anymore - MP7 is the better way ;)
Trustds07 1 year ago
@Trustds07 I think the MP7 uses a rifle round....although it's a very small rifle round so you could almost call it a dart. I've never actually seen one but I've heard they will punch through armor and if they'll do that, they'll go through the occasional wall.... I can see the uses of something like that as a personal weapon for tank crews etc., but I think it would be a bit risky in a hostage situation....you might go straight through the bad guy and hit the innocent behind him.
mouxou97 1 year ago
@mouxou97 Half-Life 2 was the notable video game that had the MP7, and it was also featured in the Hitman series.
Agent1W 1 year ago
@Trustds07 Its compact, but fires rifle rounds.
Perfect :D
GrandTheftAutoModded 1 year ago
Sounds like a softair xD But will probably hurt little bit more...
noob24de 1 year ago
The MP5 is so nice. But the MP5K is like comon. No barrel no stock. If you want a gun that short go for a P90 and even then the MP7 is what was made to be the counter part of the P90.
Mastahfung 1 year ago
@Mastahfung You play alot of cod don't you??
SEALofthefuture1962 1 year ago
@SEALofthefuture1962 There is no MP7 in cod. Your argument is invalid.
Mastahfung 11 months ago
sounds like rainbow six
MMBNM 1 year ago
whut does SD stand for ? silincer detached ?
kildeathy 1 year ago
@kildeathy Schalldämpfer= sound dampener
atreyuthegreat 1 year ago
@atreyuthegreat THANKYOO KIND SIR, BLESSINGS OF AGANOSH APON YOOO
kildeathy 1 year ago
@kildeathy schalldämpfer is the german word for silencer.
and im pretty sure that you know that HK is from germany.
MempihsJack 1 year ago
mp5 is da best ... annnnd better yet whit Supressor
scmanuel 1 year ago
''Team 1 this is Bravo Six , more hostiles at your positions get cover and wait for back up'' LOL
scmanuel 1 year ago
rainbow six rogue spear anyone?
theman0818 1 year ago
@theman0818 sounds exactly like rainbow six lol.
focusedwolf 1 year ago
@focusedwolf
Well Rainbow Six was made by Red Storm. The company that Tom Clancy started way back over 10 years ago.
mecher3k 1 year ago
is it just me or does that sound like a gun from bfbc2 ??
zerovengencer 1 year ago
@zerovengencer lolz, same.
ikegare1243 1 year ago
It's not the size of the round that matters, it's how you use it
mrpoe99 1 year ago
How would this fair against zombies?
JIMMYJIBLETS 1 year ago
@JIMMYJIBLETS UG Pit?
ebayallen 1 year ago
@JIMMYJIBLETS : Not good. I would recommend a chainsaw before recommending this.
Anandfulness 1 year ago
mp5 is good for rebel or civil killing ^.^ but it can't put down any armored targets or targets behind cover. Get a 7.62 gun for armored targets.
infantriepatronel 1 year ago
@infantriepatronel - Um...they do make special ammunition for penetrating armor. Damn son, go back to CoD.
ToiletBomberAlpha 1 year ago
the guy at the end does nothing :(
MKPVDS101 1 year ago
You realize that they train with the MP5 to do double taps. If you know how to shoot 9mm will kill someone with 1 shot, no problem. Like the one SEAL operator says "but some people say 'oh it's only a 9mm', that doesnt matter when I put two in your heart and one in your head".
sherman3211 1 year ago
gun sex
firefox8192 1 year ago
who the hell said the mp5 is uncontrollable on full auto? that looks pretty good to me
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TruthTeller878 1 year ago
Epic fail
DSAEY 1 year ago
Can someone tell me why would you NOT have a silencer always on?????
AntiPsychopath 1 year ago
@AntiPsychopath well it depends on what your doing it hurts range and ads length to the gun depending on what your shooting some subguns have a suppressor built like on some mp5's and some suppressors require subsonic ammunition, and they are not silencers they are suppressors.
AgentofValor 1 year ago
@AgentofValor What is the difference?????
AntiPsychopath 1 year ago
@AntiPsychopath There is none what people call silencers are suppressors. And sometimes you need more power than an mp5 ie m4 g36.223 rounds mp5 is 9mm and dose not carry alot of take down power at any kind of range.
AgentofValor 1 year ago
Sounds like a Softair xD
TheStrelok94 1 year ago
haaha, no power hahaha
TheBloodyInferno 1 year ago
germans know how to build guns and cars :D
Rosinini1 1 year ago
Just saw this gun fired at the range.Its really not that quiet. But within a closed area,you better have a quick trigger finger or your done as soon as thay pull theirs.
Lamb00FGoD 1 year ago
Deutsche Waffen yehaa
MouX92 1 year ago
In my opinion (which i believe is at least somewhat shared by Special Forces) this is the finest and the most deadly weapon in the world. no flash. no sound. no compromises.
ComradeSap 1 year ago
Rainbow Six!!!!
jopakas 1 year ago
@jopakas haha my thoughts exactly!!! where's chavez!!
musicman216 1 year ago
Team Two this is Team One,Hostiles on ground eliminated.
Copy that Team One,were oscar mike in 2 minutes.
sawyerbobby 1 year ago
bor wie süs so leise und so xD
CRONEX44 1 year ago
The MP5SD is the coolest looking submachine gun but lacks stopping power. The HK53 is basically the same gun but shoots the 5.56 mm m-16 round. Now that's a real ass kicker.
ten8goa 1 year ago
Look at that brass shower lol.
steveeeeboi 1 year ago
Rainbow Six!
RedSunCZE 1 year ago
@RedSunCZE I thought the same thing!!!
eXiscute 1 year ago
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Redbaron011 2 years ago
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realbibob 2 years ago
Man, I someone made a Rainbow Six movie based on the BOOK. I read it, and it's great.
omfg191 2 years ago
lol how much do you wanna bet? its a bunch of girls hahahahaha who like r 12 lol
thebigmouse16 2 years ago
it's rainbow!!!!!!11111111
OmnipotentSquid 2 years ago
It's Rainbow!
bentonfraser88 2 years ago
Holy crap, it's frickin' rainbow six!
tacticalrenegade 2 years ago
COD KID:
i preffer the p90 because mp5 has glitch and less fire rate.
so i have to shoot them 3-4 rounds to kill them,
but still the best tactical gun itz the desert eagle because its pwns!
CxHxAa 2 years ago
@CxHxAa go back to playing call of duty you fag
whitesupremacist101 2 years ago
@whitesupremacist101
you go learn how to identify a sarcasm bitch.
CxHxAa 2 years ago
@CxHxAa
haha i like it
kontknager 2 years ago
is that a Malaysia Spec forces?
kookahjoon 2 years ago
HK ITD(international training division)
nthnkilgore 2 years ago
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bediest 2 years ago
afterseeing all of these comments, i have to say that these video games brainwashed a lot of people -_-
12106993 2 years ago
I'd agree, most of them have never actually fired a fully automatic weapon EVER in their lives.
rangerstubbs76 2 years ago
whats even worse is that they talk like they know everything. oh god, what has the world become!
12106993 2 years ago
@12106993 Amen...
CxHxAa 2 years ago
This is always my preferred weapon of choice in COD4!
underpantswedgy 2 years ago
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lol hell yeah
LazyGamerMike 2 years ago
i like mp5in video games better than uzi
more accurate
airsoftswat2565 2 years ago
mp5 is a great smg
gungeekgary 2 years ago
see their stance, no recoils, very smart =)
narathh 2 years ago
it's just a normal standing shoulder stance.. anyone can do it.
firdaus125 2 years ago
The MP5 has almost no recoil anyways. It's just a normal weaver pistol stance. Same with the AR.
nthnkilgore 2 years ago
I gotta agree with you on the silence of an Mp5 compared to an MP7. but who needs silence when you can kill everyone easily
Zacdayak63 2 years ago
-_- For stealth operations, dummy.
RizellX 2 years ago
mp5 aren't that good against body armor they only fire 9mm pistol rounds the MP7 is waaay better small and compact and can pierce body armor
Zacdayak63 2 years ago
shut up
FirearmsAddict 2 years ago
But he's right, mp5 sucks against body armor!
InzaneNOR 2 years ago
@FirearmsAddict any round could pierce Armour with the correct rounds. but with a standard round most sub machines can't pierce Armour.
YaJvkYa 2 years ago
that whole statement was worded very awkwardly
i think you meant to say that any gun can pierce armor with the correct rounds, but most standard SMG rounds cannot pierce armor.
which is not true as the p90 and MP7 rounds are designed to pierce armor as is the 9mm round found in most SMGs such as the MP5
ScullCandy56 2 years ago
@ScullCandy56
The p90 and mp7 are not regarded as "true" smgs, but rather personal defense weapons though. They don't use regular pistol ammo, and i have heard that the 9mm lacks much of the punch and penetration needed against modern day body armors
yooutube321321 2 years ago
@ScullCandy56 The problem is even though the MP7A1 and P90 can penetrate class III body armor it cannot suppress the round because there firing at supersonic speeds.
IMFDB 1 year ago
@IMFDB they can suppress the round, as most suppressors used with those types of firearms reduce the velocity of the bullets as they pass through the suppressor, thus taking away the sonic boom as they no longer travel at supersonic speeds
ScullCandy56 1 year ago
@ScullCandy56 I guess so but that would depend on the suppressor the only suppressor I know that can reduce the speed for sure is a MP5SD with a integrated suppressor.
IMFDB 1 year ago
@FirearmsAddict Zacdayak63 must be a complete idiot, the russian vss is 9mm and it can pierce 1 1/2 cm thick armour at 400m easily , fair play its got a bigger shell but its stil a 9mm. :)
nyalls00 1 year ago
@FirearmsAddict haha i was thinking the same thing
ScarletKILLER22 1 year ago
@FirearmsAddict :D
but hes kinda right,you need to pump a whole mag in them,until youre sure that theyre dead...unless youre only making headshots
MempihsJack 1 year ago
@MempihsJack You dont understand, weapons dont have to be 100% perfect. If you get hit by a round thats almost a centimeter thick, your pretty fucked.
FirearmsAddict 1 year ago
@FirearmsAddict i know that they arent,but if you have a proper vest on and the guy shoots you in the chest for example,you wont die that fast.like i said,youve to go headshot.but normally,yes,youre right.not every1 has the cash to buy kevlar though.and even,i love the the 5:),cause you wont have problems finding bullets for it,9mm are everywhere unlike the 4.6 ammo of the new 7... :l
MempihsJack 1 year ago
@FirearmsAddict agreed, when tht round flattens inside you it gonna leave a badass whole and , if ur trained to a high standard like the Seals OR SaS you use double tap unless notified on fire at will basis..... either way theyre fucked :P
nyalls00 1 year ago
@FirearmsAddict This is true
Aaxofill 1 year ago
@FirearmsAddict he is proly a MW2 fag
AveMcree 1 year ago
@MempihsJack
Yeah, you see that little ammo marker on the bottom left of your screen? That means you are playing a video game. Out here in real life, a slug that thick traveling at many times the speed of sound will pretty much turn whatever it hits into a big, gaping hole. Here in the real world, you take things like hydrostatic shock and stopping power into consideration. And no, I'm not talking about the COD4 perk.
tattat44 1 year ago
@tattat44
yeah,whatever...
i dont even have that game that you were talking about, the codseries are shit anyway,if you want some real action then go css,no heli, jetfighter etc. only YOU and a gun, but anyway. im a sportshooter and i rly believe that i know a lot about ballistics,probably more than you,AND: IF you have proper armor,one single 9mm bullet wont stop you,it will only knock you down.only a whole mag would have the power to really kill you.make you researchs on dragonskin, dumbass
MempihsJack 1 year ago
@MempihsJack
CSS is realistic? I'm sorry, but you essentialy just destroyed your credibility for a second. I have worked with various small arms in the United States Army for almost a decade of my life, and it makes me just a little twitchy when people start spouting bullshit about weapons. It's bad enough as is with Hollywood on the lose. And, DUH any modern ceramic vest stops 9mm, they're all rated to at least level 3a which includes everything up to .30cal. Don't need dragonskin to do that.
tattat44 1 year ago
@tattat44
well,the way of playing the is more realistic than a lot other AND newer games,for an endtime scenario for example...anyway,so you just like to pissin off people for some reason, because youre no happy with something in your life or do you just need to take a piss?
MempihsJack 1 year ago
@MempihsJack
CSS is not realistic. At all. Period. The only thing that even comes close is maybe one of the more expensive simulators like ArmA2
tattat44 1 year ago
@tattat44
yeah man,whatever.the new arma is the biggest crap ive ever heard,i dont even have it,my dudes do and they say its shit like the new operation flashpoint, not even coming close to the old ones.you dont seem to have much of knowledge dont you?!?just hot air from youre mouth,oh sry,i forgot,you're american.not all,but the most of yours are shittalkers like yourself,giving answers to questions which noboody asked you,and nso now go and take and take piss.
MempihsJack 1 year ago
@MempihsJack
Again, the phrase "comes close" does not imply the reality. CSS is unrealistic because most modern combat takes place over 300 meters, when in CSS it is a few feet at most. When you get that down, in a game such as ArmA 2, all the AI complaints go out the window.
I'm sorry, but when did I give an answer to a question you didn't ask? You are flustered and must resort to swearing and ad homenim because you know you are wrong.
tattat44 1 year ago
@tattat44
yeah man,thats the way youre looking at it,there are scenarios calling: close quarter combat,but i think you know that already.anyway,thats why it sarts,mp5 cqc,so f..k your 3000 mters.......
MempihsJack 1 year ago
@MempihsJack
CQB happens about once every blue moon in anti-insurgency campaigns. You really have absolutely no clue what you are talking about, just like every other 13 year old your age.
tattat44 1 year ago
@tattat44
yeahyeah, whatever. unlike you i REALLY do sportsshooting,10m, 50m and 300m.like it's usual here in europe, and im way over 13!!! so keep your "i know everything better than anyone"_mouth shut, and go and play with your little toys you stupid yankee...cause i never saked you anything, you just came and being an asshole like most of the guys from your country!
MempihsJack 1 year ago
@MempihsJack
I don't shoot at dinky little targets, I shoot at human beings. 2nd Infantry 5th Stryker Brigade.
Also, for someone who claims to hate America, you sure have a very American username. (Which you spelled wrong, oh the irony.)
tattat44 1 year ago
@tattat44
suuure, you are, and thats why youre saying it here in public.LIE MORE...
and btw, i didnt say that i hate america, i said that the most of the people there are just fat and stupid, the country in beautiful.and my name is wrong, i know. because some1 used it be4 me, and i didnt want to change it.looking to that point,you must be a very sry sob man...OUT, no more time for such silly bullshit
MempihsJack 1 year ago
@MempihsJack
Oh, and what glorious country are you from, pray tell?
tattat44 1 year ago
@MempihsJack - Yeah....STFU. America has done some bad things, but getting your impression of us from movies and BS...just sit down.
ToiletBomberAlpha 1 year ago
@ToiletBomberAlpha
oh, an other american who just and being an idiot...
MempihsJack 1 year ago
@MempihsJack Americans aren't just fat and stupid.
They're nice and funny.
GunniTheGunman 1 year ago
@GunniTheGunman i didnt say they all are,but the most.i know a lot nice americans, but they arent the big part of that countrys folk.
MempihsJack 1 year ago
@MempihsJack Yeah, no matter what, it's still metal tearing through your flesh and organs, if you don't go down due to sheer pain, leaving you paralyzed, you'll go down because those rounds destroyed something really important, like your spine, heart, or even brain.
fear432 1 year ago
@fear432 i know that dude, and youre right. but it is hard for the gun to knock you down if youre proper armored. and the SD is lower on power too.
MempihsJack 1 year ago
@MempihsJack true, but it is still a close range weapon, so you'd only need maybe 6-7 rounds if that
fear432 1 year ago
so.. rechamber it in sabot rounds
melonfeeler 2 years ago
It's newer so no shit its better, but try getting the MP7 as silent as an MP5SD3
neophyte777 2 years ago
The MP7 is H&K's response to the FN P90 after they showed them up with the FAL (which was better than the G3). If I had the choice, I'd go with the P90 over the MP7 ANY day.
Xanatos712 2 years ago
how can FN show up HK; wasn't the FAL made first? So shouldn't it just be that HK failed lol?
AusQuitzau 2 years ago
*looks at dates*
*slaps head*
Xanatos712 2 years ago
:D
but yea, I'd go the FAL I reckon - especially the modern ones (even though Im a big HK fan lol!),
AusQuitzau 2 years ago
The only H&K weapons I like (that I havn't shot yet) are the Mk23 and the G36. The 416 looks nice, but it's basically an AR-15 with a piston. Heck, they even use the same lower-reciever.
Xanatos712 2 years ago
The FAL didn't show up the G3. The G3 has far less recoil firing the same round. The G3's delayed roller locking system is far better designed than the FAL's STG run around. P90 vs MP7. It's a close contest, but I choose neither. KAC PDW is what I would choose over either of them.
nthnkilgore 2 years ago
It's funny because the Germans ditched the roller delayed blow back for the a piston design when they were making the G36k.
esh325 2 years ago
It depends on the round. The G36 only fires the 5.56 NATO, which generates far less energy then the 7.62 NATO, both in felt recoil and raw take down power, so the roller delayed system would be a waste and only weigh the soldier down more.
nthnkilgore 2 years ago
@nthnkilgore but the 5.56 has higher velocity and more accuracy.
YaJvkYa 2 years ago
@Zacdayak63 Please shutup
gaz021 1 year ago
@Zacdayak63 A 4.6x29mm round from an MP7A1 cannot pierce body armor because of the slow speed of the bullet. There is no suppressed compact rifle or SMG that can penetrate class III body armor. Unless you want to use supersonic rounds then the suppressor would be useless.
IMFDB 1 year ago
@Zacdayak63 There are MP5s in .45, and .40
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