Did Obama Really Offer Clinton the Sec. Of State Position?

[illhavemine]

The Democratic Party has become the Progressive Socialist Party. Income redistribution; universal healthcare, nationalization of the economy through the banks, centralized government, and a drive to destroy the free market capitalist system upon which our nation was built.

[megeles]

obama brought Robert Gates and Tim Geithner to the White house willingly, but Hilary Clinton who isn't trying to stick it to the little guy has to play poker? for shame obama for shame

[KangaKucha]

sounds like blackmail.

[FrankDamage]

That would just prove that that serpent Hillary is not fit to hold the presidency. Well we can thank the powers that be for that, at least! Hitlery Clinton should be working in a woman's prison.

[tazekand]

Obama can offer nobody nothing,he is being pushed around by the establishment,that killed a man like JFK.

[Narniaexpert]

The birth certificate on Obama's website is a proven fake. He could have a different birth certificate, but why is he lying to america. Obama's election is the largest constitutional crisis in american history.

[ToneJermain]

the largest constitutional crisis in American history. WTF

I hear what your saying.But "The Largest Crisis.." Hell, blacks weren't even counted as a whole person within the constitution. But you out faith in this document. The constitution is not a divinely inspired writing...It just a paper constructed by white politicians, to serve their own purpose whether it be noble or not. It is still used and manipulated in the same fashion by ALL politicians. Something like this should not be a shock.

[unrulyrascal]

Proven? Lie. Now take your meds.

[asimone87]

this dude is a superstar

[dustyballz33]

well if she fucks up she gets fired just that simple

[audadvnc]

They've been talking about Hillary in Sec. of State ever since August. If Obama intended to not have her there, he'd have been stupid to let her anywhere near him right now.

[usurper17]

Jesus, who is that guy with the dreads? Is he speaking for the audience, like a reporter? Because he's asking some insanely stupid questions.

It's not that difficult to figure out why these rumors are bad for Obama. A 3rd grader could figure out why.

[Emiljon]

He's the producer of TYT. Cenk runs the show but he is the guy that runs it behind the scenes and often on air by that mic.

[jobrien2001]

What so hard to understand? You think clinton endorsed Obama just because she wanted to be his new best friend?

Are you ppl stupid? It is obvious this was talked about back when Clinton lost the nomination.

We are getting now Clinton as secretary state and a bunch of the Clinton cabinet in office. Where is the change people are talking about?

And this Cenk guy thinks this was a smart play by Hillary and it just happened now? What is this guy staupid?

[NEKO2BOT]

I agree - this was probably decided back when Diane Feinstein had both of them over to her place on June 5th.

That was just after AIPAC forced The only real Democractic candidate for change, Dennis Kucinich, out of the race. See article in the Jewish Telegraphic Agency on this FACT.

There are Republican and Democratic Neo-Cons.

Now the Democratic Neo-Cons have their turn to carry on the ruining of America.

Face it, AIPAC controls both parties.

Democracy is a joke.

[HotLeper]

I think I heard Chenk fart again. lol what is with this guy.

[Ryguy1450]

Hillary running Foreign Policy IS NOT CHANGE!

DON"T GIVE IT TO HER!

[david3188col]

i never knew this..the media is making it seem like its a done deal. lol i hope the media is right but we all know thats a stretch.

[HasanSIM14]

She is a good choice.

[Srhandel]

Obama is a sucker, putting all Clinton re-treads in his Admin.

[haierdell]

I would have liked to see Colin Powell again as Secretary of State. I think working for the Bush Administration gives him all the experience he needs to know what things Obama should not to repeat and what things to get rid of. Hillary is just a person who is way to ambitious. The sad fact is, she is not the change we need. She answers more to big business than anything else.

[lotariadosbilioes]

That would be great.

Just what we need. Liars in office.

[DameDiabolique]

Bill Richardson should have been offered the Secretary of State position. Hillary and Bill have Conflicts of interests with Bill's "Foreign Investors..."

That should have been a disqualifier right there

[websnarf]

No. If Hilary's people leaking it is the substance of this whole thing, then Obama should just announce his *REAL* S.o.State. Hillary's hurt feelings would be overshadowed.

People don't gain the position of Secretary of State on a bluff. He offered her the position -- that's what "ask her to help at State" means. A campaign volunteer for Obama might not understand this but a wonk like yourself should.

If Obama didn't want Hillary as an adviser he wouldn't care about losing her as an ally.

[websnarf]

If you really think something nefarious was going on, it was likely a concession decided a long time ago when Hillary pledged to (along with Bill's) help Obama against McCain.

[buakawkaoklai]

ron paul should be secretary of state

[brazilwanttobe]

If Hillary Clinton was offered the position of Secretary of State, she has not yet answered the 9:00 a.m. call. I personally don't think she meets the test; her foreign policy position is too far right of center. In the primaries she lavished more praise on John McCain than on Barack Obama. Stating that Obama's experience was one speech at the '84 Demo Convention. Clinto's world views and domestic views are far contrary to those of Barack Obama. We need a Black male as Secretary of State.

[MissNophi2U]

didn't we go through this with the vp position? when will hrc realize that she is not vital to the cause. whether he picks her or not, my vote was for obama not her.

[avitiltal]

cont.: I believe Clinton is trying to make it look as if Obama had to beg her to be sec. of state and that she's hard to get. Like "HE" called "me", had to beg me cause I'm queen Bee.

I think this kind of politics should be cut in the bud. The American people and the world don't need this kind of dirty mind tricks and needless drama.

Please, Mr. Obama, don't let yourself and us be shoved into a corner. Please make a clear CHOICE for any members of your government.

[avitiltal]

I don't believe Obama offered Clinton the position. I might be wrong, but somehow I don't believe it.

Clinton was the only one who came out with a decleration that Obama "offered" her the position. Somehow none of the other potential future members of government did not come out with any kind of declaration. And then, a short time later her people came out with another declaration saying that Obama "approached her with the offer again and she was condidering it".

to be continued

[thelastemperor909]

obama needs to drop her

[NLPNVC]

Pure speculation...

[qanazir]

The Clinton Machine strikes again.

[bsseidel]

iactually think andrea michell from MSNBC heard it from some insider and went on every freaking station for the next 24 hours. I new this was going to happen as soon as she went on her 4th show.

[patsagainstrats]

Why, thank you. I pride myself as being a disinterested voice of reason. :)

[patsagainstrats]

At least Obama wasn't stupid enough to choose the bloated half-spic Bill Richardson as his Sec. of State. Talk about someone who made a career soley on the basis of his minority status.

[americanmuslimgirl]

"bloated half-spic"

Your opinion on this subject sounds very unbiased.

[OettingerCroat]

well if Obama hasn't actually picked Clinton, then the job goes to the man who I think is even better for the job: Richard Holbrooke, former UN ambassador. :-)

besides, we need our senators where they are. ;-)

[americanmuslimgirl]

"Bill Richardson would be a better sec of state"

Totally agree.

[evilblades]

we all know she would be willing to throw anyone under the buss to get into any position of power.

she have been trying to force herself first into being VP by "holding the Hillary supporters" hostage, and now trying to force herself into his administration by making him seem weak if she doesn't get in.

shes desperate and i wouldn't trust her, i used to think she was at least ok, but she just looks a little too,,, republican at the moment..

[Kaizou]

Considering how Hillary initially supports the war on Iraq, then starts to criticize it after it becomes unpopular, she seems to be an ass-kisser to whoever's in power. So if that's the case, I don't think it'll be a real problem since Obama's the one in power now.

[FrankCastlez]

I am praying that they name the haughty John Kerry, who served in Vietnam, secretary of state. I want Lurch going all over the world, stepping in it every place he goes. You put a bag of manure in front of John Kerry, and he'll step in it.

[turtleblues66]

Clinton as Sec of State is a genius move. Like it or not, the clintons still have a lot of respect abroad and Obama will not have time to travel abroad because he will need to focus on the economy and problems at home. She is the only American that is well known and well liked abroad and she, as Obama's ambassador, will be able to restore our image abroad which has been totally trashed for the past 8 years.

[Rosannasfriend]

so? A lesser known person with charisma can do what you're saying. Anyone carrying out Obama's policies should be able to do the same. I'm tired of the mentality that only a Clinton should do something.

[matthewschark]

Lose what? HE'S the Prez! Cenk assumes she still has some kind of power over him. Why couldn't Obama just pick someone else? Who cares if her feelings are hurt? Can't Hillary take care of herself like a big girl should? She's just a power hungry beetch that WILL NOT GO AWAY. By the way, isn't it kind of sleazy to blackmail the Obama like this?

[americanmuslimgirl]

Bill Richardson for Secretary of State.

He is knowledgeable about the Middle East and has definitely not supported bombing as many people as Mrs. Clinton.

No to Mrs. Clinton in the cabinet! She lost fair and square. If she knew how to play ball, she'd be president elect right now.

[SSky06]

1) What is all this shit you're talking about Hillary? She supports murder and bombings? Show some evidence before making moronic statements like that.

2) She lost fair and square, but that doesn't mean she gets cast out of the party. Obama and Hillary are the two leading members of the Democratic party. It pays to bring her in as a cabinet member both because she's a big hitter with foreign experience, but also it sets her a stage to run after Obama is out of office so that Dem's stay in.

[americanmuslimgirl]

I would be happy to talk with you but not if you cannot be respectful.

She has supported many things that have killed innocent people, but I can tell from your tone it is not a discussion I would like to have with you.

I don't care about "dems" staying for "dems" sake. That is what is moronic.

[SSky06]

I was absolutely respectful. If by not being respectful you mean because I cursed, then please grow up. If you can't handle the word 'shit' then you're a fool. Meanwhile, you're being very DISRESPECTFUL to Senator Clinton. Supported many things that have killed innocent people? Again, you stated no facts, just more randomness. E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E.

And I never said I agreed with putting big hitting Democrats in to try to maintain control of the White House, but that's part of political strategy.

[americanmuslimgirl]

While I watched people I know and love being bombed she stood up and in true Orwellian doublespeak fashion put her voice in to support the murderers dropping bombs on children and families as if they were the defenders of all that is holy and righteous. You can support her, that is your choice. Personally, I will forgive her when she denounces in clear language her former statements. Good luck to you and Mrs. Clinton.

Peace out.

[SSky06]

See, this is just more blah-blah-blah with no stated facts. 'People you know and love.' Who did she support bombing? It's not like she is supporting bombing innocents, but its a thing that is going to happen in every war. Innocent people die. How is that in any way her fault?

[americanmuslimgirl]

All right. I will tell you. There is no need to care as they are just Muslim and Arab. It was in Lebanon 2006. I'm not interested in hearing your justifications so please spare me.

It is her fault that she lent them legitimacy. It is my contention that a secretary of state should be able to be a diplomat. Nothing more, nothing less. She has bloody hands, like it or not. You may like her but the world can find plenty of reasons to dislike her. I'm really done now, but thanks for discussing.

[SSky06]

Are you talking about Israel and Lebanese terrorists fighting in Golan? What does that have to do with Hillary Clinton. If not, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Please, SPARE ME YOUR SUBCONSCIOUS CONNECTIONS TO RANDOM WORLD EVENTS.

[americanmuslimgirl]

The Golan Heights are in Syria. Really, I don't have time to teach history to people who insult me. You are perfectly able to read books, I'm sure. You've found your way to the internet.

[SSky06]

Actually, Golan is in Israel.

Then don't make outrageous claims about shit and the offer no evidence. You're just saying these things and then telling everyone to go look at it themselves. The burden of proof is on YOU since you're saying she's supported all of these bad things and then not explaining yourself or proving your point. That's so stupid.

[americanmuslimgirl]

No. Golan is not in Israel. It is an occupied territory. It makes no difference, as fighters from Lebanon and Israel did not fight there in the summer of 2006, and never have to my knowledge.

I don't care to offer evidence. You have your opinions, I have mine.

[americanmuslimgirl]

I'm sorry for criticizing your sacred cow Mrs. Clinton. I shall try to be more guarded in the future should I ever encounter you again.

You started this conversation, not me. I hope you will have a calm night and survive the morning without anyone attacking her again in your presence.

[gobbledygookie]

According to wiki it's "disputed territory"

[Playborn]

The Golan Heights have nothing to do with Lebanon, it's a coflict between Israel and Syria, and it is Syrian land occupied by Israel

[Playborn]

in Clinton family only Bill knows how to play ball, lol, but he was kinda sleepy the whole campaign lol

[sunwing28]

Hillary Clinton was an enthusiastic supporter of the war on iraq. She only began to criticize it after it became unpopular. Her "criticisms" were that we didn't carry out the illegal invasion well enough. She even said in a speech that we gave Iraqis the "gift of freedom". Obama is surrounding himself with hawkish militarists.

[americanmuslimgirl]

Totally agree.

Hillary Clinton has supported murder of many many people around the world and would be a horrible diplomat.

[SquallCloud]

I don't think Obama got boxed in. Have you SEEN him drop douchebags on their asses at his press conferences? I don't think he would allow himself to get played by him.

[nucleus187]

nah... i think im gonna mark all your comments as spam from now on instead.

[Marth48]

The problem with the "win-win" proposition is that the American people lose.

[SupaAmi]

I don't know if that story is true, but Cenk's explanation of how the Clintons supposedly may be thinking really makes sense. Politics can be so sneaky.

That being said, I think that story might be just pure BS.

[goonsmile]

thats why you dont fuck with hilary - shes already proved to not be a real team player

[KamiMetal]

BS! When she lost she told ALL her supporters to support Obama 100%. She was totally behind him even if they can't stand each other. He's the one that has the ego & arrogance.

[Rosannasfriend]

you get from where???? I think the fact that he never showed any bitterness about her bitchy and obnoxious behavior speaks to a gracious that she knows nothing about.

[Rosannasfriend]

oh, and if he were so arrogant, he wouldn't be about to offer her this job. He would be glad, like I would be, to get rid of her. But no......, lol.

[Playborn]

me too I think he's too arrogant, and lots of people think he's gonna end up like JFK, I'm not sure about that. Different times.

[Playborn]

even Bill doesn't fuck with Hilary

[footlowtec]

verry good point

[daderone]

it was like some thought that went thru my head in 10 seconds the last time i was high that took 4:45 to explain..like the last time i was high. yeah maybe yeah maybe not. work talkin bout if u sittin next 2 me, not worth makin a movie about to put on youtube.

honest

[norbu2006]

I like this Conspiracy Theory side of TYT. keep it coming.

[medaa25]

Cemk, I think that story is bullshit...

[crowdaddy13]

dude, you cant take the mainstream seriously until the minute it happens.........wow, if hilary is the person, who gives a shit, shes better than cunnilingus rice

[classic14rider]

The problem with the story is how is it that Obama wound up offering her direct access to the president (not having to go through the chief of staff) and also offering to allow her to pick her own staff? These are concessions that are not made to any other cabinet member.

If Obama didn't want her all he has to do is offer conditions that she cannot possibly accept; which would be the normal conditions offered to other cabinet members.

[PAC3HTK]

I like Cenk's poker analogy, but from what I hear, Obama is not the one who want to play poker with. Unless you enjoy losing.

[luvangel330]

Exactly... something tells me the Clintons are about to look real foolish

[KamiMetal]

They can't look more foolish than Obama who is going to have to provide his original birth certificate to the Supreme Court or he's history.

[SquallCloud]

KamiMetal, why are you all hanging onto this falacy. There are all kinds of ways to critique Obamaa, but "Heez a seekwit ferriner!" is just stupid beyond compare. If he were not an American John McCain would have went with that for his campaign and become the defacto leader. If it was that easy to get Obama he would not have played every dirty trick in the book.

Like stupid to the point I marvel at you and your ilks ability to formulate language. Pick a new rant.

[Waranle]

Obama will provide his birth certification when you PROVIDE YOUR MOTHERS PUSSY, HOW ABOUT THAT MOTHERFUCKER?

[SSky06]

Where is John McCain's birth certificate? That's the most pathetic argument to date in the entire McCain/Palin hit jobs list. I really can't believe people think that there is this big secret working that engineered Obama into the presidency and are covering up that he's 1) Muslim (as if being of Muslim decent would then be synonymous with terrorist somehow even if he was?), 2) Not an American, 3) Racist, 4) Terrorist 5) (Insert your own propaganda).

[luvangel330]

When will you foil hat wears get over this whole Birth certificate BS Obam has already provided his certificate and it has been authenticated by the state of Hawaii and this court case has been thrown out twice by judges who had thier own professionals prove his certificate was real and legit. What you stupid gullable clowns don't get is that he wouldn't be a senator if it wasn't authentic 12 yrs ago when he had to provide it to the FBI. Loosen the chin strap on your foil hat

[Narniaexpert]

Obama's false certificate was printed with a lazier printer which wasn't around when obama was invented.

This is just logic.

If Obama becomes president it will be the largest constitutional crisis in american history.

[luvangel330]

Every week it is different.Last week somehow British law supercedes Us Law.Your only making your self look more and more stupid. His certifiacte has been presented to officials who have given thier certification that it is a real when he applied for his passport, drivers license, state and US senate (even though it isn't required), and again to judges. But some how Obama was able to bamboozel ALL these people, but not you and the rest of your foil hat wearing idiot freinds.Barack isn't invented

[unrulyrascal]

Fooling the FBI is as easy as using a laser printer? Logic must work differently in your world...

[plzwhine]

You realize McCain was born in Panama, right? Not America? You do understand that McCain was not born in America, right?

[jkesquered]

the hillary pick is the only one that's had me scratching my head. i hope Obama REALLY knows what he's doing. ummmmm

[biggerflexible]

I think if Obama said "you can help at state" to Clinton its a job offer for sure. Why would he risk a misunderstanding like that?

[prodigyat9]

"I think if Obama said "you can help at state" to Clinton its a job offer for sure. Why would he risk a misunderstanding like that?"

I agree, and if it was only said by someone on his staff to someone on hers it still means "are you interested in the job?"

[sgw94]

Here is the thing. Andrea Mitchell broke the story and she has said time and time again that it wasn't a Clinton person who leaked to her AND the Obama persons because there were at least two weren't trying to leak to her either but rather she felt sincerely that it had come out in a way that wasn't deliberate. Andrea Mitchell has a great reputation as a journalist and I doubt she was lying about this. But its really easy to make HRC look bad at this point in history

[milkgodnl]

I was under the distinct impression that she *was* for all intents and purposes appointed as of 48 hours ago .. a whole 40 or so hours before this video was posted. I would have though that John Kerry would have made a better Secretary of State, but who am I to pontificate ..

[boundless1986]

OMG When Cenk said that Obama had meeting with Clinton and McCain I thought of the recent South Park episode.

[Krumbz2003]

Barack has great judgement and patience when choosing people to be around him. IF Hillary did do what this video claims she has done then she would automatically be disqualified from serving in Baracks administration - as far as Barack is concerned. REGARDLESS OF THE BACKLASH.

I trust Barack to make the right decisions. If Hillary did act in this way, which I don't think she has, than she is simply NOT the right person for the job.

Nobody wants that kind of person on their side.

[jshooper]

anyone who thinks hillary and her people are incapable of doing this,just remember how she refused to bow out in the primaries.....she hung around trying to smear obama or trip him up.....fortunately Obama is a genius and played the whole thing out and came out on top.....i trust his skills

[homeskil6850]

like you i trust his skills too, but i still believe that hillary and bill are the 2 most devious politicians on earth. you can bet your next paycheck they're someone plotting how they can better themselves. this is their life and they won't give in until the very end....and maybe not then

[icbutts66]

True but Hilary and Barack didn't meet alone to agree for her to concede but met with the Bilderberg group Chantilly, Va. suddenly meeting in the US a year early the real final officials who anoint the final candidates(met with Kerry/Edwards. Obama was going to win by the strength of THE PEOPLE alone but these int'l monied leaders had keep control and got him to agree Hilary would be SoS as payback.

Slate has an article on June 9th.

[CABasque]

Bill Clinton was an illusion as a good president. He stumbled his way through his adminstration. The economy start to decline during the last 2 years of his 2nd term. Hillary is an evil person.

[uskafighter]

That is such Bullshit. Bill Richardson should have been Secretary of State. He's a million times more qualified for it then Hillary. Speaking as a New Mexican who doesn't want to see him leave office early, i wouldn't mind as much if he was leaving to be the Secretary of State, but the Secretary of Commerce?... total horse shit.

[xxashyy]

agreed

[prideventures]

Obama is the greatest poker player in politics - just think of it differently - he threw out a hint that he would like her for State without actually asking - knowing that they would leak it thinking that they got one up on him - all along he intended her for the job - now they think they are in control - but he comes out with his straight flush by quieting her and her people who can't come back and critic him because he is the boss now, and they will look like traitors - check mate!!

[jonz23m]

doesnt make difference and is no excuse

[youngThrashbarg]

It seems like the Clintons have studied some game theory.

[LORDOFMUFF]

She wants to take Obamas place. Just look at her face!

[patrickdotts88]

Bill Clinton was a good president, top 10 of all time...maybe top 5. I hope Obama does well for 8 years (hopefully) then thats 16 years out of 24 years of potentially good Democrat presidents.

[budthesmoke85]

I'm tired of seeing all these negative comments towards the Clintons.

You should be happy that Bush will be gone soon. That'll be a breathe of fresh air.

[hornetobiker]

I never realised JR was that dense. ;)

[haierdell]

I don't think she would make a good Secretary of State. She is from New York and everyone knows all the politicans at her level answer more to Israel than to the United States. Every election they go to Israel to campaign. Why? Aren't you running for a position in the American government.

Richardson is the better choice. He didn't get alot of money for his presidential campaign, which leads me to believe he is not controlled by contributors as much as Hillary. He is better for America.

[Lordoftehuglyflies]

or maybe nobody likes him

[RedMedium]

Cut throat politics at its best.

[mystrial]

This is all speculative at this point.

[WKaliber1]

I boarded up my house cause i dont want them to rape my sisters

[vRaZ1el]

That a low blow by the clinton admin. If I were Obama I would have told her thanks but no thanks, and got Richardson instead.

[roksho]

richardson would have been a better choice

[vRaZ1el]

I think so too.

[like2seeit86]

I ment 2 say she would have said yes by now.

[rachel7036]

It was reported that she is accepting the job after Thanksgiving.

[katey1dog]

Hillary Clinton in the Obama administration...

Bad medicine.

[halli321]

The problem with the, "Hillary is trouble" idea is that it stems from the political relationship she had with Obama during the primaries. We all know how that ended up, Hillary was crucified by the media and people thought she was a bitch. This attitude gets her nowhere considering she will most likely never run for President again and she risks being the #1 hated woman in America if she continued to be a thorn at his side for the hell of it. So there's no political gain for her to act like that

[katey1dog]

People thought she was a bitch? She is a bitch. It isn't a compliment no matter how many feminists give a thumbs up when called one. However, she isn't the most hated woman in America... Sarah Palin is ridin' that gravy train with biscuit wheels.

[isaachaze1]

i've respected the feminist movement pretty much throughout my life, but at this point they are coming a cross as a bunch of whiners and cry babies. sorry your candidate didnt win, but that's show biz! quit cryin about it. now obama has to pay the price in order to appease these people

[katey1dog]

When did Obama lose?

[isaachaze1]

huh?

[katey1dog]

My candidate didn't lose. Obama won.

[isaachaze1]

oh, i get it now. i was referring to hillary supporters. and not all hillary supporters, just the hardcore ones that said they would not vote for obama. and i meant "across" not "a cross" in previous post, although it is kinda funny as someone was talking about hillary being crucified :)

[voyeurdug]

A two-way "trial balloon"?

[halli321]

Naa, Obama wouldn't be influenced like that. He picked Biden in the midst of tons of criticism when people were scared of Palin and thought Barack blew it with Biden. The guy doesn't seem like the type to be boxed in. ALso, people need to get off his balls. He is not in the White house and we don't know how his team will work yet.

[like2seeit86]

Hillary is so smart if she wants the job she would have said say by now.