Any person considering using medication on a regular basis should realize that the common cycle with any drug is 1) effective results 2) prolonged usage 3) tolerance (where it doesn't work the same or at all) 4) and then withdrawl or discontinuation syndrome. Although the brain has a tendency to return to baseline hormonal levels, If you put enough of something synthetic into your body for a long period of time, you do risk permanent damage.
Dont do antidepressants they seriously screwed me over ...
then i tried marijuana in smaller amounts . trust me and even research it from credible sources if you dont believe me .
Marijuana is the best antidepressant ive ever tried .
I obtain it illegally due to unjust laws.
But for those living in states where medical marijuana is legal . i suggest giving it a try . Marijuana is no where near as addictive either which really helped.
Stay away from Effexor. It took me weeks and weeks and weeks to finally get off of that shit. I would never go back although ironically, my psych has proposed it a few times. He must be getting kickbacks. A word of caution to all.
Wow this video has really scared me. I don't think the Lexapro was really worth the trouble I'm going through to quit it. I've been trying to quit it for a year and a half but I keep taking it because the brain zaps are so intolerable and now I'm told that those zaps can damage your brain! It makes sense that it would damage your brain because its so delicate but I will definitely research this myself.
I have permanent brain damage (including brain zaps) from one 10mg Lexapro pill almost 5 years ago. I will be posting a total of 8 videos soon describing my experience. The first is up already. The videos aren't very good but it needs to be online.
Getting off of my Effexor and I get brain zaps every time I close my eyes. I've been off them for a while (after slowly reducing the dosage with help from my doctor), but I still have them :( I just want to feel normal again...
the other day while getting my prescription filled i was beside a young girl getting her first dose of effexor the pharmacist was telling her how to take it i felt like pulling her aside and saying DONT DO IT because you can never get off ive tried and its so shameful i feel like a junkie, because i can go without them, i also get brain shocks i never knew what it was.
@xXprincessXxAlixX omg you should have! i would have. i wouldnt wish these withdrawal pains on anyone, and if i could save one person from starting to take it, it might be worth it.
You are right in all you say. People like me simply cant get off this stuff . Its a hell n earth. And NO, I was told 11 years ago that it was non-addictive. Take your pill two your late and you can be getting the ripples inside your head (brain zaps). They dont hurt, but its like getting a pain from your blood........just unfathomable!!! Dont go on this stuff if you can find an alternative to your problem. Effexors a damn curse after all these years. Sure it helped me for a while, but then??!!
These things are so painful. It took me over 2 years for them to finally stop completely. I have tried to explain it to people and Dr.s and they look at me like I am making it up
i am a paxil user and it has taken my life over. the only way i can see us ssri users to make a statement is if we planned a mass suicide across the country. maybe then congress would think twice bout taking money from the pharmacy lobbyist. withdrawal effects are driving me to suicide. the brain zaps alone make me want to end my life.
Nice scientific brain theory terminology there. I like uh got brain zaps so I can't quit my doctor-shite man! Give me a break. Quit that shit, IT is the brain zapper.
My son was prescribed Effexor and it caused a MAJOR manic episode that landed him in the hospital. They diagnosed him as Bipolar but he is mostly manic. You should absolutely NOT give a manic person Effexor. Back then he was normal. After all the drug cocktails he was given and all the horrible side effects we slowly removed medication. He was okay for awhile. Now we can add schizophrenia to the mix. Even though he was manic, doctors kept prescribing Effexor. He may never be normal again.
I took Effexor for nearly two years, and have been off it for four months with no side effects besides some mild agitation the first week. It saved my life. Every drug or medical treatment is about weighing the dangers and advantages.
This video is BS. Yes, coming off an SSRI can cause brain zaps and all sorts of shitty problems for a few months but there is no documentation to support brain damage of any kind. This video was made by a person who does not understand brain chemistry and for some reason is trying to scare people. The Brain Zaps are due to a lack of a neurotransmitter called Acetylcholine which is lowered while taking SSRI's. It does come back. It can, however take time to get back to the pre-SSRI levels.
@Jaquitita Just read it, again. No where in that article, or any article I've read about this topic, has it said that any symptom is permanent. The only thing that people have reported as going on indefinitely is some sexual side effects, but that is a small minority and also has not been substantiated. Anyone trying to get off SSRI's don't listen to anything on this video. You can get off of them and will be normal afterwards. You are not damaging your brain.
@Jaquitita Saying that "you may be one of a small minority of people who have made unsubstantiated claims of lasting sexual dysfunction" and saying "Brain zaps cause neurological damage to your brain...and can become permanent" are two very different things. The people viewing these videos are the ones looking for reassurance during a tough time. What you are doing with this video is adding more anxiety and more worry to people who are already at wits end. Think before you speak.
@Jaquitita Well I'm done with this back and forth. Leave it at this: you're not a doctor, if you're relying on information from Wikipedia then keep it to yourself because Wikipedia is written by people like you and me. Well, more like me than you because I take the time to fully research something before I jump to wild conclusions about it. I just hope before you put something on a social forum you think about the implications first. Nearly 40,000 ppl watched this video. 40,000 ppl were lied to.
@AngryDuck9 Wikipedia is made by people like you and me, but information on Wikipedia is always sourced and has to be accurate. The information in question was also accurate. I never claimed to be a doctor. 40k were told the TRUTH, no matter how you want to put it.
Phosphatidyl Serine Matrix, TAKE IT!!!! My father died of brain Cancer. I to have brain ZAPS. It is greatly diminished since i reduced my fluoride levels. THIS ISNT A JOKE. The only thing that causes cancer & brain zaps is RADIATION!! A doctor is not qualified to diagnose it because nothing is known about it in this field. However Biochemistry knows alot. You cannot take SSRI's or Pharma. You MUST stop taking them immediately. Serine will solve your anxiety by repairing cortizol resceptors
I take SSRI lexapro and I can tell you first hand that you are NEVER NEVER supposed to stop this drug suddenly. It can be an ER situation right away. I get lot of people telling me to quit the drug but they don't understand it is extremely tough to get off of them once your body gets used to it. Even the doctors who tell you to quit don't understand the brain zap theory. A neurologist told me to lower the dosage every day and by day 4 I am to quit. I ended up in ER and now I am suing him
I feel sorry for anybody who has to suffer because of these damn toxic drugs. Pray to God and pray to get better. These drugs are inhumane and so are the killers who prescribe them to you without warning you. All these young people who suffer for nothing because of these drugs is disheartening. GET A LAWYER!.
Remember folks this is a CHEMICAL DAMAGE in your BRAIN CELLS. It is not like a physical brain damage you get from an impact such as being HIT in the head. The chemistry is unbalanced and damaged from the psychiatric drugs and so is certain areas of the brain. Anyone who is in pain or suffers from these drugs i feel sorry for you, what i can say is try and sue the psychs/docs who prescribed them to you who didn't warn you about the extreme risks and dangers. Good luck may god help you all.
I'm coming off Effexor right now. Day 5. It sucks but it seems like after I have good night sleep the brain zaps don't start until about 3 oclock. I've come off this shit b4 and it took about a month. This time it's bad but I feel that I'm making it day by day. No one who hasn't done this can understand. I'm never taking it again no matter what. It can be done so hang in there. I will admit the dreams are crazy but hey I'm crazy so once this is over, and it will be in time, I'll be better off.
no one can fully describe what it feels like to experience the brain zapping and the overwhelming feeling of panic and weakness that comes in those moments. The constant fear that this will be permanent and that perhaps your brain has been forever effected... to those of you who want medical evidence, well, we want it too! but the drug companies stand to lose millions
I'm on my 10th day of weening off Mirtazopin, Fck it's hard.. Sooo fricking hard...
not doing cold turkey, doing the right way by decreasing dosage bit by bit. Funny thing is I went to see the doctor about the side effects of weening off them and what I can do? She said here i can give you medication for that. Sure more pills.
Doctors here in Australia are to helpful in giving you pills, just what i need as a 30 year old young male.
Do not start them, exercise, eat well and respect yourself.
I experienced terrible brain zaps on Effexor as well, but you still need some kind of references or citations. Otherwise this just sounds like some dude spouting off his opinion as fact which does an injustice to what we've all experienced on this crap.
It's not only cymbalta and effexor, those are just two amongst hundreds of anti depressants that effect serotonin reuptake. Paxil gave me brain zaps and they continue almost a decade after usage. Luckily they happen very rarely, less then once a month, but I doubt that such electrical short circuits are good for the brain.
For Gods sake people be very very careful if your prescribed the drug "cymbalta". Yes i'm sure it has a positive affect on quite a few of you out there..but for others like myself?..oh dear.
Just got through the zaps, they've been gone for a week now and I've been off zoloft for one month. It felt like this strange, sudden pulsation, kinda made me dizzy.
The zaps feel like they hit my fingertips and ears now. I count a bout 8 zaps in a row sometimes but its almost always when i wake up in the morning or in the middle of the night when I randomly wake up do the zaps show up.
I stopped taking zoloft about 6 months ago and i'm fine. Though brain zaps can be scary, they are nothing to be afraid of. The person that made this video is not a doctor and there is no support to base his claim that these zaps cause permanent, or even temporary, neurological damage(THEY DON'T). I had brutal brain zaps for about 2 weeks then slowly they went away and i'm fine now. I know it can be frustrating, but trust me they will go away if you stick with you withdrawal plan.
@amputechture06 Well nobody knows either way, and it's doubtful there's much funding allocated towards finding out due to the vested interests in the hundreds of these medications out on the market. I highly doubt electrical misfiring in the brain could possibly be considered GOOD and I would much less surprised if were found to be harmful. It's effectively like an electrical shock, a split second of voltage overload in the brain, that sounds like a high potential for brain damage.
I started taking cymbalta about 2 months ago and stopped cold turkey about two weeks ago. I didnt stop cuz I felt the pills werent helping me, but cuz I felt like that kinda stuff is for crazy people. Now, after two weeks of not taking my pills and avoiding my meetings with councilers, I'm having strong thoughts of suicide. I have also had these brain zaps the last week or so but I didnt know what they were until I watched this video. I dont know what to do. Should I go back on cymbalta?
This video was very scary, I got off of Effexor after 6 years i was taking 300 milligrams a day . i got off cold turkey with a little help from buspar and suffered for 3 months and now i no longer get the brain zaps, so i feel pretty over that, it wasn't permanent for me, so i really advise getting off of it , not recommend the opposite, this video could be harming people who want to get off the drug.
This should be eye opening. I'd like to hear about one of yall going to a hospital and bitching about your "Brain Damage" to a person who just had a major CVA, see how well that goes. Also I want to read a peer reviewed scientific journal that shows evidence that these drugs cause brain damage.
@Jaquitita Ya do know that "brain zaps" and the majority of the other more serious effects of the withdrawal will only follow quitting the medication cold turkey. It's proven that gradually easing off the medication can be very helpful in dealing with withdrawal symptoms. It's the same way for any drug including caffeine and nicotine.
@DustyZero Yeah but nicotine/caffeine don't leave permanent relapses in their wake. It's been about 10 years and I'll still get the occasional brain zap.
I walked out of the doctor's office when he wanted to prescribe within the first 5 minutes of interview. This careless overpresciption by doctors is quite disturbing. I cured my own severe OCD with willpower and persistance, im happy I will never need to poison my brain with these drugs. Those suffering from depression and anxiety disorders, take your damn vitamins.
son of a bitch mother fucker. I am having brain zaps like a motherfucker and have had them ever since I started and stopped paxil and have been on 2 different medications since then. They come and they go. I had to cut my effexor dose in half and boy am i suffering. those cocksuckers should have told us the facts. This shit is unbelievable. I went to the emergency room 3 years back and they thought it was just a nerve. They have no clue.
speedracer0197: Schizophrenia is clearly brain damage. Old people who have a bad short term memory have brain damage. They are losing a million cells a day until they have no memory. Brain zaps are clearly brain damage. Most severe mental illnesses are brain damage. To say a genius and a schizophrenic are the same since they are both outside the bell curve and therefore both, according to me, have brain damage just shows me what an idiot you are. A genius has does not have brain damage.
I used to get "brain zaps" on a regular basis after stopping prozac. It felt like a sudden electric surge that caused intense pain for about a split second.
my doctor claimed he hadn't heard of it as a side effect or withdrawl symptom.
This was well over three years ago, now story's of these zaps are quite common.
that's the MO of these so-called "doctors". deny deny deny. if your doctor actually admitted the truth, and told you that this medication will make you suffer, then you could sue him for malpractice
I was taking paxil from 2000-2007. In 2005 was the start of my mission to get off the ssri. In 2005 I was on a dose higher than what the company made. When i stopped it was in horrible withdrawal and this is coming from someone addicted to heroin from 1996 -2000. i have been sober since 2000. I made a year commitment and slowly lowered my dosage to zero. I went throught 3 months of brain zaps,headaches,social phobia depression and panic attacks x10 of what i had experienced pre-paxil.
Common and well-documented side effects of psychiatric drugs include mania, psychosis, hallucinations, depersonalization, suicidal ideation, heart attack, stroke and sudden death. Not only that, but The US Food and Drug Administration admits that probably one to ten percent of all the adverse drug effects are actually reported by patients or physicians. Psychiatrists laugh while you cry and DIE. By their HANDS. Psychiatrists have blood on their hands. They enjoy hurting people.
Psychiatrists can’t predict what adverse side effects you might experience because not one of them knows how their drugs work. Psychotropic drugs are increasingly being exposed as chemical toxins with the power to kill. Psychiatrists claim their drugs save lives, but according to their own studies, psychotropic drugs can double the risk of suicide. And long-term use has been proven to create a lifetime of physical and mental damage, a fact ignored by psychiatrists.
WARNING TO ALL: PSYCHIATRIC DRUGS SUCH AS SSRI'S , BENZOS, ANTI-PSYCHOTICS CAUSE PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE AND WARP THE MIND. DO NOT TAKE THEM IF YOU WANT TO START. TRY ALTERNATIVES. THESE DRUGS WILL KILL YOU. THEY WILL KILL YOOUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!
Any drug that is taken in excess can KILL YOU....lets be realistic here. If you take your medication as your doctor prescribed you and all that appropriate jazz...you wont die or suffer brain damage...
Fluoride is Kryptonite from the government, because they dont need any Superman saving you from all these poisons they are feeding us. They want you to be good little Jews & get in your gas chambers. Most have so much serotonin saved up that they can be stoned all day & take long naps, but those days will end when you run out of serotonin, as you face the Altered State(the movie) You become a raging insomniac like fight club. Arthritis,Cancer,Brain damage,Diabetes, dumbed down
@LendMeYourHand hahaha are you kidding me! They add flouride to water to prevent dental flourosis. Look at contries that don't add flouride to water, do they have supermen? And im gonna go out on a limb and say I doubt valliaumite is forming in as a result of ingesting flouride.
@speedracer0197 Keep drinking your fluoride, its obvious that you havent looked any of my claims up, you just decided they were false. But as the CDC supposedly regulates this, then why do the milligrams in Psychotropic drugs far exceed this cut off point?? Its also relevant in the way you stated the case of villiaumite(NaF-), as it IS sodium fluoride. The crystals form when the ionic bond occurs, not in the body, dummy. I have 2 years research,personal experience & you have nothing.
@LendMeYourHand Really I have no experience I guess working with in mental health for 7 years isn't enough. Oh and by the way the CDC doesnt regulate, its all about statistics and recommendations. Obviously you need to take a phyc, physiology, advanced phys, and then get a masters in it. There are plenty of people who drink this type of water and dont have this effect maybe you are the 2.5 percent outlier that has a reaction to the flouride or its something else that you have no idea about.
@speedracer0197 So what is your reason for being on this comment page?? I have not read a shred of research that you have done on the topic to conject my statements. Not to mention your far fetched claims in physiological studies. Anyone can PRETEND, yet you prove you dont have a clue in what your talking about when you diagnose me with Schitzo, which may i add has no relation to the subject. Dont bullshit these people, you work in the billing department. CDC.com says 4mg/l, read & weep
@LendMeYourHand How many double blind studies have you done about this I PROMISE it isnt even close to the amount done by the CDC or FDA. And if theyt are gonna lie about SSRI or SSNRIs it would be a terrible choice of drug to use in the water since benzo's are such a better sedative. BTW you sound like a schitzo
@speedracer0197 correction. CDC.gov... So as 1 PPM is the REGULATED dose, you are trying to convince me that a government run system to prevent disease is just there to make recommendations?? You are a fucking idiot. So who regulates??? The CDC & FDA, its that simple. & as this sight also states the 1000-15000 PPM in toothpaste. You would have to be blind in both eyes to be trying to argue with the statistics. You are full of shit & dont have a leg to stand on.
@LendMeYourHand You obviously have no experience with anything medical, take a look at the bigger picture, why of all things would they use flouride. Oh and the CDC is focused on research and prevention of disease also known as epidemiology. If this flouride theory was really true and such a big deal i think there would be a bigger outcry from the public and medical community, especially in research because the flouride would be altering results.
@speedracer0197 Well, FluorIDE is in a state of decay which means it is emitting radiation. All other electronegative elements containing halide attributes are as listed. Radon,Xenon,Neon,KRYPTON,Uranium,Plutonium. The simple fact that the zap is a physical attack on the pineal & brain region as a short circuit & not mind altering. Effects of tryptamine will release higher doses of serotonin which will later run out & causes insomnia & anger. And yes, a higher risk of permanent brain damage.
@LendMeYourHand ok well if its the flouride causing the zaps, then why do many people get them once they stop taking the drug, I think it is way more likely that they are caused by a relative loss of seritonin and norepinephrine in the synaps.
@speedracer0197 Right, i agree that serotonin is atleast partially responsible for the zaps. Once the serotonin levels are depleted, the tryptomine in Fluoride becomes the substitute for the natural effects. However this leaves the patient unable to produce serotonin naturally. Once they attempt to back off of the medication, the bodies melatonin system becomes imbalanced & unable to produce serotonin properly, but doctors try to convince patients that this is irreversible, that is a lie.
@LendMeYourHand I have to disagree. It seems more likely that the pt would be experiencing a "relative" loss of serotonin and norepi because of down regulation of autoreceptors. Also there are antidepressants that do not have fluoride but the people get brain zaps. "Chronic Duloxetine Treatment Induces Specific Changes in the Expression of BDNF Transcripts and in the Subcellular
Localization of the Neurotrophin Protein" Neuropsychopharmacology (2007) 32, 2351–2359
@speedracer0197 Whoah, touche'. As ridiculous as it sounds, i do try to dumb it down a bit for the readers. Very informative studies none the less. I can get heated, but i only want to find the truth.. So if i am wrong, i have no difficulty accepting new results. But i seriously need cross referencing to convince me as some scientists are biased to some extent &/or driven by an agenda of personal gain. I do also recognize different types of zaps that are not in relation to SSRI's.
@LendMeYourHand Yeah I agree, these zaps can prob. be caused by many other things just as MODS can be caused by SIRS, sepsis, or noninfectious stimuli the end result is the same. When it comes to antidepressants though, my initial though is the relative loss of serotonin and/or norepi. A good study would be to see if pt's have more zaps with ssri or ssnri withdrawal!!!
@LendMeYourHand another article is "HISTOPATHOLOGICAL INVESTIGATION OF FLUORIDEINDUCED NEUROTOXICITY IN RABBITS" Fluoride Vol. 36 No. 2 95-105 2003 Research Report 95 that supports the theory that fluoride can cause brain damage at extreme levels, but if a person is not taking a medication with fluoride it isnt likely that its the cause of the zaps. BTW you may have to have access to these journal if you can't I can email them
@speedracer0197 I would be interested in reading that article, could you give me a link? I am looking into a couple water diagnostic systems right now. The cheapest route being test strips, but these only respond at 10PPM as i would be more convinced with mg/l. I will also delve into other potential substances that may be in the water as well, as my research does not end here. Though my main study has primarily been on Fluoride & as of yesterday noted its contribution to greenhouse gases
@LendMeYourHand idk why but i cant post the link, see if you can get it through google scholar. I have a subscription for a ton which is why I can see them. Most have to be paid for but I can send them in PDF format.
@speedracer0197 But in my case i was not taking high milligrams & it was relevant during a 2 year period with zaps of no changes in my diet other than a fluoridated water system, Which is suggestive of specific dosage levels indicating a minor loss in melatonin processes. So as i am highly sensitive to this may play a role in my case. As it is only relevant to the accumulation of fluoride over a 4 year period which through accumulation surfaced, & then subsided from non use of Fluoride.
@speedracer0197 LMFAO, Dental Fluorosis is caused by fluoride. Wow, you are pretty dumb. Now it is relevant that you are talking out of your ass. These people need the TRUTH & not your dumb statements that contain no relevance to any actual studies. I suggest everyone understand exactly what a electronegative fluorescing ionic particle is before they sound as stupid as speedracer does right now.
@LendMeYourHand to the point of me sounding dumb. yeah I dont know much about electronegative fluorescing ionic particles and im more than willing to say that but I know a great deal about pathophys something you seem to have no knowledge. Oh and yeah you are right about the flourosis I was confused for a moment its not something I typically deal with
So lets evaluate this Fluoride more in depth. Hmmm electronegative ionic particle classified as a halide that glows under ultra violet light. By adding sodium, we get villiaumite. Sodium crystals form in perfect octahedral coordination amplifying the particles through a prismatic UV spectrum, Now we know only low doses of gamma are safe for brain functions & not UV, we also know that there is only 1 halide element that is safe to humans: hydrogen . other halides: neon,xenon,radon,uranium,F-
The TRUTH..... I havent been on any meds & i use to hear the zaps. These ssri's must be in the water i suspected. So i bought & steam distiller & they went away. Might i mention i was having the zaps since i moved into an area that offers public fluoridation, as before i was drinking well water. So i did research & discovered the main ingredient in these ssri's & BEYOND in almost all pharmaceutical drugs is Fluoride & how that even a 10mg pill far exceeds the CDC's recommendations
Ok does a brain zap mean a slight tick, or shake like u do when ur on ecstacy?
coz i didnt take my anti dipressants for a week and i think its also a combination of lack of sleep and then i get this funny pause and slight thing like a caffine buzz its lasts less then a second then stops then a few minutes later it happens again then it doesnt happen then it happens
floride and mercury based ssri's destroy parts of your brain, chemicly labodomizing you, so your body will stop producing natural chemicals, and the only way to get those chemicals is to take the drug. customer for life.
the zapps come at anytime, make you drop things, it is like a part of your brain has been lanced off with a scalpel, really, get a slither of glass, really fine, and run it as fast as you can across your eyeball, thats almost what a zap feels like. I have memory problems also. . i am a walking zombie, just because i was a bit fed up. DD
i'm currently on venlofaxine. I have tried getting off for about 3 yes, the brain zapps almost caused me to go to hospital. for anyone reading this, hope someone does, i can only say dont do it.
BRAIN ZAPS ARE EXTREMELY PAINFUL. THE PAIN SHOOTS EVERYWHERE IN THE HEAD AND FACE AREA. IT WILL MOVE TO THE BODY LATER IN MONTHS TO YEARS. THE DAMAGE IS PERMANENT. PSYCHIATRISTS ARE AWARE OF THE HARM THEY ARE DOING TO YOU, THEY LAUGH YOU CRY.
Slowly, means SLOWLY. I went from 300 mg to 225 mg for a few weeks. Once confident with no changes in mood etc, then 150 mg (which is one capsule in my case). Then I opened the cap and did 75% then 50% then 25% etc. But the last bit is the worst. For a few week I just put a few granules on my finger to swallow. But everyone is different. Just don't go too quick. Also, very important, make sure you are happy and in a good space or there will be a problem. Good Luck.
Hi, could you please tell me what this feels like? I am about to lower my dose very slightly, and am frightened of this withdrawal symptom in particular.
personally, the brain zaps are just strange-not uncomfortable, debilitating, or even annoying. they definitely DON'T hurt at all. just a weird sensation in your brain-like a *pfftt* noise inside your head. they're quite difficult to explain, but you'll know what they are when you have them. shifting your eyes quickly will cause them to increase in frequency but not intensity. again, weird, but if you're expecting them, not scary. i'm going to try the omega 3 too. good luck!
Please Anyone even considering antidepressants LISTEN to this video! I have been hooked on Effexor for 20 years and can not get off due to these "BRAIN ZAPS". You hear the noise in the video, well you will hear that in your head when the ZAPS hit you. Also when they hit so does a wave of dizziness that is like gravity pulling you in one or another direction. I do not know the creator of this video but I do know that Effexor will initially make you feel more STABLE.
actualy the brain zap thing is sometimes true for antidepression meds but u can get off ur doc will perscribe lower and lower doses until eventualy ur on such a low dose u wont feal and withdraw symptomes when u get off of it
problem with antidepressants is that it causes impotency as a side effect and you can't fall in love anymore while taking them because your emotions and feelings are blocked. problem is some people got permanent impotency for the rest of their lives after quiting the drug. it's called the 'post SSRI sexual dysfunction' you can read about it on wikipedia. it's no joke, read the forums about people having PSSD. PSSD means sex problems even if you don't take AD anymore. newspapers report is also!
@Jaquitita Did you try tapering off by decreasing the dosage with at least 2 or 3 weeks before decreasing again until you get to microdose levels? I'm going through protracted withdrawal symptoms with the help of a special supplement developed in Canada, brain zaps are subsiding, but it's been 4 months only. Withdrawal from SSRIs can last up to 18 months, then you have no more side effects. And they don't cause damage, just the horrible experience.
@clidreamer77 You took a very low dose of effexor for a very short time and you are very young. Try taking it for a long time and high dose. You will get permanent brain damage.
I'm damned lucky and I know it. 10+ years on 40mg of Paxil and I quit cold turkey on May 4, 2009. It was three weeks of sheer hell, but one symptom I DIDN'T get were these so-called "brain zaps." I've heard them described and they sound awful.
I treated myself as if I had a horrible flu - tea, bedrest, a few things that helped me personally ("Rescue Remedy", beta carotene, etc) and a ton of tears and tissues. Then one day I woke up feeling human again. The nightmare DOES end. Eventually.
Brain zaps and short term memory loss is clearly brain damage. You can make up whatever euphemistic explanations you want but a normal brain does not do this only a damaged brain does this. THAT IS BRAIN DAMAGE PEOPLE AND DOCTORS! Apparently some people can recover while others are left permanently disabled.
Brain zaps and short term memory loss is clearly brain damage. You can make up whatever euphemistic explanations you want but a normal brain does not do this only a damaged brain does this. THAT IS BRAIN DAMAGE PEOPLE AND DOCTORS! Apparently some people can recover while others are left permanently disabled.
@MrJazz1910 Brain damage is such a terrible way of saying this, people with mental disorders such as schizophrenia or even blessing such as being a genius is not considered normal but this doesn't mean they have brain damage. schizophrenics have hallucinations and symptoms way worse than a "brain zap" but this is not a qualifying manifestation of brain damage otherwise mental health would be called "Care of the Brain Damaged Individual".
@MrJazz1910 to continue, many seniors have short term memory loss, are they brain damaged? Upregulation and down regulation of neuro receptors occurs in many nonpharmacological situations and sometimes these can be chronic or acute. So under your view or thinking a herion addict would be considered brain damaged if he/she is withdrawling and craves for the rest of their life.
i just got off celexa or citalopram 40mg and the 3rd day i got the brain zaps and dizzy as hell how long does dis last cus i was on meds for 3 years and i didnt get a refill so i decided to get off the meds cold turkey heeeeeeeeeellp feel like shit im just gonna drink and smoke a blunt
Provide some studies and then I'll believe you. The idea of permanent damage is far-fetched - the brain is extremely flexible and resilient to change. Spreading theories with no research basis is dangerous and you should think twice or three times before doing it. In the academic community, you are what we call a 'hack'.
@Jaquitita google this "Chronic Duloxetine Treatment Induces Specific Changes in the Expression of BDNF Transcripts and in the Subcellular
Localization of the Neurotrophin Protein" Neuropsychopharmacology (2007) 32, 2351–2359
Understanding the difference between damage and "remodeling" of a cell (to put it simply) are very different. Ischemic tissue can lead to necrosis which would be damaged. Up/down regulation of autoneurons isn't necessarily damage, often times it isn't.
@r1s1u1t1 this is how you study it.... "Chronic Duloxetine Treatment Induces Specific Changes in the Expression of BDNF Transcripts and in the Subcellular
Localization of the Neurotrophin Protein" Neuropsychopharmacology (2007) 32, 2351–2359
@r1s1u1t1 well killing humans to study their brain is unethical, but here are some more studies
"Behavioural and neuroplastic effects of the new-generation antidepressant agomelatine compared to fluoxetine in glucocorticoid receptor-impaired mice" [Int J Neuropsychopharmacol] 2010 Jul; Vol. 13 (6), pp. 759-74. Date of Electronic Publication: 2009 Sep 24
"Flesinoxan challenge suggests that chronic treatment with paroxetine in rats does not desensitize receptors controlling 5-HT synthesis."
@r1s1u1t1 psychiatrists should eat these drugs themselves and give them to their family members as well. Psychiatrists ..... Welcome to the NEW HOLOCAUST. The most dangerous thing in this world is a PSYCHIATRIST. Silent but DEADLY. STOP PSYCHIATRY!.
@r1s1u1t1 All psychiatrists should be imprisoned for life with no parole. These psych drugs are dangerous and deadly. be careful with these drugs. Save your life.
@r1s1u1t1 "Flesinoxan challenge suggests that chronic treatment with paroxetine in rats does not desensitize receptors controlling 5-HT synthesis." [Neurochem Int] 2008 Dec; Vol. 53 (6-8), pp. 236-43. Date of Electronic Publication: 2008 Apr 22.
Serotonin transporter imaging with [123I]beta-CIT SPECT before and after one year of citalopram treatment of obsessive-compulsive disorder. [Neuropsychobiology] 2006; Vol. 53 (1), pp. 40-5. Date of Electronic Publication: 2006 Jan 04.
@speedracer0197 Dude, cmon man, don't spout theory's around here. There's people suffering SEVER damage form these drugs. This is no joke. Psychiatric drugs cause violence and suicide. This is a VERY SERIOUS topic. To experience these drugs is a tragedy. It is absolutely horrific. I cant believe you say its OK to take them.
@draziom902 I take them everyday! These are not theories, I am backing them up with evidence from peer reviewed biomed journals. Have you ever seen the transformation lithium or zyprexa can have on a manic or schitzo patient. I have it works well for many and has significantly improved their quality of life. Ive also seen what people not on these med can do, murder, suicide, rape just as bad as your CLAIM about people on them.
@speedracer0197 Oh my GOD!. How long have you been taking them and which drugs are you on and what doses?. The studies you read are from psychiatrists themselves who make up bullshit about how these drugs work. THEY DONT KNOW HOW THEY WORK!. You're so young, why take the risk on these drugs?. Its impossible to get off!. The violence and suicide is from people in (WITHDRAWALS) not their original illness returning as psychiatrists claim. Oh my god, i am speechless.
@draziom902 and by seen I mean Ive seen their victims, not cool. I do take this serious which is why I fight for what I see as the truth by providing factual evidence of the sucess of these drugs and not making claims only based on my individual experience. And yeah I get the zaps!
@speedracer0197 Before anybody takes the risk to take psychiatric drugs they must be fully informed. Most are not. Psychiatrists don't inform of risks. I'm 36 and these drugs destroyed my life. I have permanent brain damage (zaps) flat mood, neuropathy etc. Its scary and deadly. Were you informed of the risks before taking these drugs?. I feel sorry for you because these drugs cause DEATH!. Please be careful with these drugs. They are 1000X worse than street drugs.
@draziom902 I have family members who have taken them for a long time and its amazing to see how much they have improved. I have never heard of neuropathy from an SSRI, do you have any comorbid conditions? I must disagree about the street drugs, herion and meth are pretty bad. As for the journal articles being lies, they are peer reviewed and not all psychs conducting them.
@speedracer0197 LOL! what the.... Your family members improved with psychotropics?. Dude.. they may help in the beggining, but then tolerance builds up and the dose has to be raised. Then there's the poop out effect where it doesn't work and then needs to be switched to another and another. Ultimately these drugs after long term use is impossible to get off. The withdrawals are LIFE THREATENING. I was on SSRI's for a long time and the shrink took me off very quick. I developed central pain.
@speedracer0197 As for cormorbid yes i have. I take Oxycodone for the painful zaps and Klonopin for raging anxiety all caused by SSRI/Benzo withdrawal. The SSRI's have worse withdrawal than Heroin/Pain killers. The journal articles you read are fabricated, deceptive, dangerous, and wrong. I'll send you to a link of people suffering eternal damage from Psychotropic drug use. You're in for a hell of a shock as to what these drugs do.
@speedracer0197 not sure what your problem is but if you UNDERSTOOD anything about severe depression you would know that there is signifigant cognitive impairment which include decision making
@r1s1u1t1 your right I dont know anything about it, but somehow I seem to be able to understand those articles I posted. I take 90 mg cymbalta also but just cause i like how it tastes
@speedracer0197 a little rat told me about the dangers.He escaped a ssri study,to which he lost all his friends and family to suicide ,violence or decapitation.
@speedracer0197 You take 90mg's of Cymbalta because you like how it tastes?. Do you have a drug addiction problem?. Are you a street drug user? any alcohol?
@draziom902 If you must know, recurrent MDD and generalized anxiety disorder. I have questions too, how do you know all psychs are bad and lie, where is the evidence of your claim of withdrawal from SSRI worse than herion and being deadly, evidence of the HIGH prevelance of serious side effects other than suicide which is rare but still a listed side effect.
@draziom902 postulate this, heparin can cause HIT (Heparin-induced thrombocytopenia) in nearly 30% of people, 5% of cases are the deadlier form (HIT type 2). So should surgeons stop using it?
@speedracer0197 Nobody is informed about risks. There is no benefit either. Psychiatrists routinely lie about the safety of their drugs. They aren't safe. They cause suicide and homicide.
@yamumyamumyamum Couldn't agree with you more. Plus, anecdotally the idea that brain zaps are rare doesn't pan out. His description and elaborate sensory presentation in this video imply that your brain is literally shocking itself, when "zaps" are simply another type of vertigo.
@unholyimage The zaps are being picked up by the pineal & not your real ears. This however is not conclusive to mental delusion. infact it is quite real when the main ingredient in all SSRI's is electronegative particles. This Fluoride is interacting in conflict to our bodily voltage levels. It would be similar to potential arcing of your motherboard. It is happening to all users but some are more perceptive to it or at low levels of serotonin, which is common from lack of sleep or insomnia.
@yamumyamumyamum Damaged Neurons from psychiatric drugs regenerate with the damage. There is no way around it. You're bypassing the BBB (Blood Brain Barrier). Psychiatrists destroy the brain and mind for life. There is no hope once you take psych drugs and have brain zaps and pain. Its for life. Neurogenisis works with neuroplasticity of an already damaged warped brain which its chemicals have been altered. Psychiatrists have damaged the brain of these people for life.
@draziom902 Why would passing the BBB matter? A lot of drugs do this as well as many hormones, and cytokines do this in a "normal" brain every day. And just because a neuro is damaged doesnt mean it will "regenerate" a damaged cell. Does a human who lost his arm to a shark have children with a missing arm?
@speedracer0197 The BBB is there to PROTECT neurotoxins to not go INSIDE the CNS. Drugs designed to get through the BBB are psychotropics (mind altering drugs) which do nothing but damage the brain and CNS. No other drug goes through the BBB besides psychiatric drugs. Normal hormones that pass the BBB is essential to brain health. A Neuron damaged in the brain regenerates and damages all other healthy neurons. This is not the case with other body parts. The brain is the human's computer.
@speedracer0197 the damage occurs at the cellular level. these drugs are designed to interrupt and DAMAGE normal brain activity. I have plenty of articles. I'll send you the link to many articles you can read about psychiatric drug (chemical lobotomy)
I quit cymbalta 60mg cold turkey and by day five my ears were ringing so bad I could not hear. Every time I would turn my head or just move my eyes I would get a swishing felling through my body. I had to get back on them just so I could go to work.
I went off Effexor cold turkey around 6 years ago and it was awful. The brain zaps seemed never ending for 6 weeks, but then they got less and less. I still get the occasional zap 6 years later, but it's better than being hooked on Effexor forever.
OMG PEOPLE ALL THEESE YEARS IVE STOPPED THE EFFEXOR ANTIDEPRESSENT I ALWAYS FELT ELECTRICITY ALL OVER MY BODY AND IN MY BRAIN AND NO BODY BELEIVED ME AND DOCTORS TELL ITS ANXIETY...IVE SUFFERED HELL DURING 4 YEARS AFTER STOPPING THEM..AND NOW I TAKE THEM AGAIN AND IT RELEIVES THE ELECTRICITY...AND NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY FINALLY... I WAS 15 WHEN THE GAVE ME AND OBLIGED ME TO TAKE THE MEDS AND NOW IM OBLIGED TO LIVE WITH THEM FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE EITHER THAT ILL FEEL OVERSTIMULATED ELECTRICALLY
I think everyone should take this video into consideration if they aren't on anti-depressants already. I've taken them on and off for about 10 years. Eventually I started feeling worse than normal and the withdraw symptoms can trigger suicidal actions. And god damn those brain shocks.
I stopped for 4 years, and started having problems again. I was recently put on Celexa and Depakote. Biggest mistake I ever did. Its been 2 months weening off and I still can't get rid of the side affects.
I've had these before. Way fun.
johmedis 2 months ago
Any person considering using medication on a regular basis should realize that the common cycle with any drug is 1) effective results 2) prolonged usage 3) tolerance (where it doesn't work the same or at all) 4) and then withdrawl or discontinuation syndrome. Although the brain has a tendency to return to baseline hormonal levels, If you put enough of something synthetic into your body for a long period of time, you do risk permanent damage.
ProfessorKA0S 2 months ago
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ProfessorKA0S 2 months ago
anti-depressents are the worse type of medication someone can take do not take these crap pills
xplosive19 3 months ago
Dont do antidepressants they seriously screwed me over ...
then i tried marijuana in smaller amounts . trust me and even research it from credible sources if you dont believe me .
Marijuana is the best antidepressant ive ever tried .
I obtain it illegally due to unjust laws.
But for those living in states where medical marijuana is legal . i suggest giving it a try . Marijuana is no where near as addictive either which really helped.
sachyktothea 4 months ago
Stay away from Effexor. It took me weeks and weeks and weeks to finally get off of that shit. I would never go back although ironically, my psych has proposed it a few times. He must be getting kickbacks. A word of caution to all.
Magenta408 5 months ago
I can't believe how many people on youtube hate on medications that save thousands of peoples lives each day, including me!
DeusUniversa10 5 months ago
@DeusUniversa10 , Yea, cause you don't have side effects or trying to get off of the Drug. So you don't understand!
darrell6776 4 months ago
Wow this video has really scared me. I don't think the Lexapro was really worth the trouble I'm going through to quit it. I've been trying to quit it for a year and a half but I keep taking it because the brain zaps are so intolerable and now I'm told that those zaps can damage your brain! It makes sense that it would damage your brain because its so delicate but I will definitely research this myself.
ran714gel 5 months ago
I have permanent brain damage (including brain zaps) from one 10mg Lexapro pill almost 5 years ago. I will be posting a total of 8 videos soon describing my experience. The first is up already. The videos aren't very good but it needs to be online.
wdtony 6 months ago
Getting off of my Effexor and I get brain zaps every time I close my eyes. I've been off them for a while (after slowly reducing the dosage with help from my doctor), but I still have them :( I just want to feel normal again...
neoko224 6 months ago
I never knew what to call those things or describe them correctly. BRAIN ZAPS is exactly RIGHT!!!
Tommit9 6 months ago
the other day while getting my prescription filled i was beside a young girl getting her first dose of effexor the pharmacist was telling her how to take it i felt like pulling her aside and saying DONT DO IT because you can never get off ive tried and its so shameful i feel like a junkie, because i can go without them, i also get brain shocks i never knew what it was.
xXprincessXxAlixX 6 months ago
@xXprincessXxAlixX omg you should have! i would have. i wouldnt wish these withdrawal pains on anyone, and if i could save one person from starting to take it, it might be worth it.
jennyennydot 6 months ago
You are right in all you say. People like me simply cant get off this stuff . Its a hell n earth. And NO, I was told 11 years ago that it was non-addictive. Take your pill two your late and you can be getting the ripples inside your head (brain zaps). They dont hurt, but its like getting a pain from your blood........just unfathomable!!! Dont go on this stuff if you can find an alternative to your problem. Effexors a damn curse after all these years. Sure it helped me for a while, but then??!!
mrjollypantsjolly 7 months ago
These things are so painful. It took me over 2 years for them to finally stop completely. I have tried to explain it to people and Dr.s and they look at me like I am making it up
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jessicaelainek 7 months ago
i am a paxil user and it has taken my life over. the only way i can see us ssri users to make a statement is if we planned a mass suicide across the country. maybe then congress would think twice bout taking money from the pharmacy lobbyist. withdrawal effects are driving me to suicide. the brain zaps alone make me want to end my life.
kerndsoccer03 7 months ago
Nice scientific brain theory terminology there. I like uh got brain zaps so I can't quit my doctor-shite man! Give me a break. Quit that shit, IT is the brain zapper.
Grrraig 7 months ago
@Grrraig Yeah cos you just explained it so scientifically for us... lol
Jaquitita 7 months ago
i allways have those brainzaps when i quit taken them.. and i dont feel like im damaged..
petersedin 7 months ago
My son was prescribed Effexor and it caused a MAJOR manic episode that landed him in the hospital. They diagnosed him as Bipolar but he is mostly manic. You should absolutely NOT give a manic person Effexor. Back then he was normal. After all the drug cocktails he was given and all the horrible side effects we slowly removed medication. He was okay for awhile. Now we can add schizophrenia to the mix. Even though he was manic, doctors kept prescribing Effexor. He may never be normal again.
karmali51 7 months ago
I took Effexor for nearly two years, and have been off it for four months with no side effects besides some mild agitation the first week. It saved my life. Every drug or medical treatment is about weighing the dangers and advantages.
darklight2501 7 months ago
both the drugs u cited as examples for ssris were snris
chunkylover1232 8 months ago
This video is BS. Yes, coming off an SSRI can cause brain zaps and all sorts of shitty problems for a few months but there is no documentation to support brain damage of any kind. This video was made by a person who does not understand brain chemistry and for some reason is trying to scare people. The Brain Zaps are due to a lack of a neurotransmitter called Acetylcholine which is lowered while taking SSRI's. It does come back. It can, however take time to get back to the pre-SSRI levels.
AngryDuck9 8 months ago
@AngryDuck9 Have a look at Wikipedia under SSRI discontinuation syndrome.
Jaquitita 8 months ago
@Jaquitita Just read it, again. No where in that article, or any article I've read about this topic, has it said that any symptom is permanent. The only thing that people have reported as going on indefinitely is some sexual side effects, but that is a small minority and also has not been substantiated. Anyone trying to get off SSRI's don't listen to anything on this video. You can get off of them and will be normal afterwards. You are not damaging your brain.
AngryDuck9 8 months ago
@AngryDuck9 Sir, what do you think causes the sexual dysfunctions, if not your brain?
Jaquitita 8 months ago
@Jaquitita Saying that "you may be one of a small minority of people who have made unsubstantiated claims of lasting sexual dysfunction" and saying "Brain zaps cause neurological damage to your brain...and can become permanent" are two very different things. The people viewing these videos are the ones looking for reassurance during a tough time. What you are doing with this video is adding more anxiety and more worry to people who are already at wits end. Think before you speak.
AngryDuck9 8 months ago
@AngryDuck9 Information sometimes causes anxiety. But it doesn't change anything. It's still information that needs to be shared.
Jaquitita 8 months ago
@Jaquitita Well I'm done with this back and forth. Leave it at this: you're not a doctor, if you're relying on information from Wikipedia then keep it to yourself because Wikipedia is written by people like you and me. Well, more like me than you because I take the time to fully research something before I jump to wild conclusions about it. I just hope before you put something on a social forum you think about the implications first. Nearly 40,000 ppl watched this video. 40,000 ppl were lied to.
AngryDuck9 8 months ago
@AngryDuck9 Wikipedia is made by people like you and me, but information on Wikipedia is always sourced and has to be accurate. The information in question was also accurate. I never claimed to be a doctor. 40k were told the TRUTH, no matter how you want to put it.
Jaquitita 8 months ago
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Phosphatidyl Serine Matrix, TAKE IT!!!! My father died of brain Cancer. I to have brain ZAPS. It is greatly diminished since i reduced my fluoride levels. THIS ISNT A JOKE. The only thing that causes cancer & brain zaps is RADIATION!! A doctor is not qualified to diagnose it because nothing is known about it in this field. However Biochemistry knows alot. You cannot take SSRI's or Pharma. You MUST stop taking them immediately. Serine will solve your anxiety by repairing cortizol resceptors
LendMeYourHand 9 months ago in playlist Brain Zaps
I take SSRI lexapro and I can tell you first hand that you are NEVER NEVER supposed to stop this drug suddenly. It can be an ER situation right away. I get lot of people telling me to quit the drug but they don't understand it is extremely tough to get off of them once your body gets used to it. Even the doctors who tell you to quit don't understand the brain zap theory. A neurologist told me to lower the dosage every day and by day 4 I am to quit. I ended up in ER and now I am suing him
abc71277 9 months ago
I feel sorry for anybody who has to suffer because of these damn toxic drugs. Pray to God and pray to get better. These drugs are inhumane and so are the killers who prescribe them to you without warning you. All these young people who suffer for nothing because of these drugs is disheartening. GET A LAWYER!.
draziom902 9 months ago
Remember folks this is a CHEMICAL DAMAGE in your BRAIN CELLS. It is not like a physical brain damage you get from an impact such as being HIT in the head. The chemistry is unbalanced and damaged from the psychiatric drugs and so is certain areas of the brain. Anyone who is in pain or suffers from these drugs i feel sorry for you, what i can say is try and sue the psychs/docs who prescribed them to you who didn't warn you about the extreme risks and dangers. Good luck may god help you all.
draziom902 9 months ago
I'm coming off Effexor right now. Day 5. It sucks but it seems like after I have good night sleep the brain zaps don't start until about 3 oclock. I've come off this shit b4 and it took about a month. This time it's bad but I feel that I'm making it day by day. No one who hasn't done this can understand. I'm never taking it again no matter what. It can be done so hang in there. I will admit the dreams are crazy but hey I'm crazy so once this is over, and it will be in time, I'll be better off.
sadielu4400 9 months ago
no one can fully describe what it feels like to experience the brain zapping and the overwhelming feeling of panic and weakness that comes in those moments. The constant fear that this will be permanent and that perhaps your brain has been forever effected... to those of you who want medical evidence, well, we want it too! but the drug companies stand to lose millions
wisper2me 9 months ago
cool awarness video !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anaihinds 9 months ago
Actually, Cymbalta and Effexor are technically SNRIs not SSRIs.
andybpiano 10 months ago
okay next time my dad or mom trys to make me take a pill i will kick them so hard and run away and tell the police what they are doing to me.
FallingdownMiis 11 months ago
I'm on my 10th day of weening off Mirtazopin, Fck it's hard.. Sooo fricking hard...
not doing cold turkey, doing the right way by decreasing dosage bit by bit. Funny thing is I went to see the doctor about the side effects of weening off them and what I can do? She said here i can give you medication for that. Sure more pills.
Doctors here in Australia are to helpful in giving you pills, just what i need as a 30 year old young male.
Do not start them, exercise, eat well and respect yourself.
simmo19801 11 months ago
jaquitita=retard
hey i think i'll make a video about how if you sleep more than an hour a night it could kill you, yea that sounds good.
there is not a single documented case of ssri discontinuation causing brain damage.
PillowWarrior 11 months ago
I experienced terrible brain zaps on Effexor as well, but you still need some kind of references or citations. Otherwise this just sounds like some dude spouting off his opinion as fact which does an injustice to what we've all experienced on this crap.
chillidogdupree 11 months ago
It's not only cymbalta and effexor, those are just two amongst hundreds of anti depressants that effect serotonin reuptake. Paxil gave me brain zaps and they continue almost a decade after usage. Luckily they happen very rarely, less then once a month, but I doubt that such electrical short circuits are good for the brain.
botchalism 11 months ago
For Gods sake people be very very careful if your prescribed the drug "cymbalta". Yes i'm sure it has a positive affect on quite a few of you out there..but for others like myself?..oh dear.
RonaldsonTippet 11 months ago
Just got through the zaps, they've been gone for a week now and I've been off zoloft for one month. It felt like this strange, sudden pulsation, kinda made me dizzy.
sozo515 11 months ago
The zaps feel like they hit my fingertips and ears now. I count a bout 8 zaps in a row sometimes but its almost always when i wake up in the morning or in the middle of the night when I randomly wake up do the zaps show up.
SirNicholasD 11 months ago
I stopped taking zoloft about 6 months ago and i'm fine. Though brain zaps can be scary, they are nothing to be afraid of. The person that made this video is not a doctor and there is no support to base his claim that these zaps cause permanent, or even temporary, neurological damage(THEY DON'T). I had brutal brain zaps for about 2 weeks then slowly they went away and i'm fine now. I know it can be frustrating, but trust me they will go away if you stick with you withdrawal plan.
amputechture06 1 year ago 2
@amputechture06 Well nobody knows either way, and it's doubtful there's much funding allocated towards finding out due to the vested interests in the hundreds of these medications out on the market. I highly doubt electrical misfiring in the brain could possibly be considered GOOD and I would much less surprised if were found to be harmful. It's effectively like an electrical shock, a split second of voltage overload in the brain, that sounds like a high potential for brain damage.
botchalism 11 months ago
I started taking cymbalta about 2 months ago and stopped cold turkey about two weeks ago. I didnt stop cuz I felt the pills werent helping me, but cuz I felt like that kinda stuff is for crazy people. Now, after two weeks of not taking my pills and avoiding my meetings with councilers, I'm having strong thoughts of suicide. I have also had these brain zaps the last week or so but I didnt know what they were until I watched this video. I dont know what to do. Should I go back on cymbalta?
905Hamilton1 1 year ago
This video was very scary, I got off of Effexor after 6 years i was taking 300 milligrams a day . i got off cold turkey with a little help from buspar and suffered for 3 months and now i no longer get the brain zaps, so i feel pretty over that, it wasn't permanent for me, so i really advise getting off of it , not recommend the opposite, this video could be harming people who want to get off the drug.
ettydavis 1 year ago
This should be eye opening. I'd like to hear about one of yall going to a hospital and bitching about your "Brain Damage" to a person who just had a major CVA, see how well that goes. Also I want to read a peer reviewed scientific journal that shows evidence that these drugs cause brain damage.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 Go and read, don't come here bitching about it
Jaquitita 1 year ago 2
@Jaquitita Ya do know that "brain zaps" and the majority of the other more serious effects of the withdrawal will only follow quitting the medication cold turkey. It's proven that gradually easing off the medication can be very helpful in dealing with withdrawal symptoms. It's the same way for any drug including caffeine and nicotine.
DustyZero 11 months ago
@DustyZero Yeah but nicotine/caffeine don't leave permanent relapses in their wake. It's been about 10 years and I'll still get the occasional brain zap.
botchalism 11 months ago
@speedracer0197
scientific journal about side effects ? Just take a seat and wait ..!
CfsSilentKiller 11 months ago
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I walked out of the doctor's office when he wanted to prescribe within the first 5 minutes of interview. This careless overpresciption by doctors is quite disturbing. I cured my own severe OCD with willpower and persistance, im happy I will never need to poison my brain with these drugs. Those suffering from depression and anxiety disorders, take your damn vitamins.
zimtower 1 year ago
son of a bitch mother fucker. I am having brain zaps like a motherfucker and have had them ever since I started and stopped paxil and have been on 2 different medications since then. They come and they go. I had to cut my effexor dose in half and boy am i suffering. those cocksuckers should have told us the facts. This shit is unbelievable. I went to the emergency room 3 years back and they thought it was just a nerve. They have no clue.
krazykrista24 1 year ago
Psychiatrists and psychologists have brain damage because they say such stupid things like you do all the time.
MrJazz1910 1 year ago
speedracer0197: Schizophrenia is clearly brain damage. Old people who have a bad short term memory have brain damage. They are losing a million cells a day until they have no memory. Brain zaps are clearly brain damage. Most severe mental illnesses are brain damage. To say a genius and a schizophrenic are the same since they are both outside the bell curve and therefore both, according to me, have brain damage just shows me what an idiot you are. A genius has does not have brain damage.
MrJazz1910 1 year ago
I used to get "brain zaps" on a regular basis after stopping prozac. It felt like a sudden electric surge that caused intense pain for about a split second.
my doctor claimed he hadn't heard of it as a side effect or withdrawl symptom.
This was well over three years ago, now story's of these zaps are quite common.
BrunoAtticusfinch 1 year ago
@BrunoAtticusfinch
that's the MO of these so-called "doctors". deny deny deny. if your doctor actually admitted the truth, and told you that this medication will make you suffer, then you could sue him for malpractice
smp156 1 year ago
I was taking paxil from 2000-2007. In 2005 was the start of my mission to get off the ssri. In 2005 I was on a dose higher than what the company made. When i stopped it was in horrible withdrawal and this is coming from someone addicted to heroin from 1996 -2000. i have been sober since 2000. I made a year commitment and slowly lowered my dosage to zero. I went throught 3 months of brain zaps,headaches,social phobia depression and panic attacks x10 of what i had experienced pre-paxil.
devinehell 1 year ago
Common and well-documented side effects of psychiatric drugs include mania, psychosis, hallucinations, depersonalization, suicidal ideation, heart attack, stroke and sudden death. Not only that, but The US Food and Drug Administration admits that probably one to ten percent of all the adverse drug effects are actually reported by patients or physicians. Psychiatrists laugh while you cry and DIE. By their HANDS. Psychiatrists have blood on their hands. They enjoy hurting people.
draziom902 1 year ago 8
@draziom902 amen
Jaquitita 1 year ago 3
Psychiatrists can’t predict what adverse side effects you might experience because not one of them knows how their drugs work. Psychotropic drugs are increasingly being exposed as chemical toxins with the power to kill. Psychiatrists claim their drugs save lives, but according to their own studies, psychotropic drugs can double the risk of suicide. And long-term use has been proven to create a lifetime of physical and mental damage, a fact ignored by psychiatrists.
draziom902 1 year ago
WARNING TO ALL: PSYCHIATRIC DRUGS SUCH AS SSRI'S , BENZOS, ANTI-PSYCHOTICS CAUSE PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE AND WARP THE MIND. DO NOT TAKE THEM IF YOU WANT TO START. TRY ALTERNATIVES. THESE DRUGS WILL KILL YOU. THEY WILL KILL YOOUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!
draziom902 1 year ago 10
@draziom902
Any drug that is taken in excess can KILL YOU....lets be realistic here. If you take your medication as your doctor prescribed you and all that appropriate jazz...you wont die or suffer brain damage...
LuvvvlyOne 5 months ago
@draziom902 what are your sources.
AEliMollinedo 4 months ago
psychiatrists destroy your mind, brain, and body. they laugh while you cry and die.
draziom902 1 year ago
Fluoride is Kryptonite from the government, because they dont need any Superman saving you from all these poisons they are feeding us. They want you to be good little Jews & get in your gas chambers. Most have so much serotonin saved up that they can be stoned all day & take long naps, but those days will end when you run out of serotonin, as you face the Altered State(the movie) You become a raging insomniac like fight club. Arthritis,Cancer,Brain damage,Diabetes, dumbed down
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
@LendMeYourHand hahaha are you kidding me! They add flouride to water to prevent dental flourosis. Look at contries that don't add flouride to water, do they have supermen? And im gonna go out on a limb and say I doubt valliaumite is forming in as a result of ingesting flouride.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 Keep drinking your fluoride, its obvious that you havent looked any of my claims up, you just decided they were false. But as the CDC supposedly regulates this, then why do the milligrams in Psychotropic drugs far exceed this cut off point?? Its also relevant in the way you stated the case of villiaumite(NaF-), as it IS sodium fluoride. The crystals form when the ionic bond occurs, not in the body, dummy. I have 2 years research,personal experience & you have nothing.
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
@LendMeYourHand Really I have no experience I guess working with in mental health for 7 years isn't enough. Oh and by the way the CDC doesnt regulate, its all about statistics and recommendations. Obviously you need to take a phyc, physiology, advanced phys, and then get a masters in it. There are plenty of people who drink this type of water and dont have this effect maybe you are the 2.5 percent outlier that has a reaction to the flouride or its something else that you have no idea about.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 So what is your reason for being on this comment page?? I have not read a shred of research that you have done on the topic to conject my statements. Not to mention your far fetched claims in physiological studies. Anyone can PRETEND, yet you prove you dont have a clue in what your talking about when you diagnose me with Schitzo, which may i add has no relation to the subject. Dont bullshit these people, you work in the billing department. CDC.com says 4mg/l, read & weep
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
@LendMeYourHand How many double blind studies have you done about this I PROMISE it isnt even close to the amount done by the CDC or FDA. And if theyt are gonna lie about SSRI or SSNRIs it would be a terrible choice of drug to use in the water since benzo's are such a better sedative. BTW you sound like a schitzo
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 correction. CDC.gov... So as 1 PPM is the REGULATED dose, you are trying to convince me that a government run system to prevent disease is just there to make recommendations?? You are a fucking idiot. So who regulates??? The CDC & FDA, its that simple. & as this sight also states the 1000-15000 PPM in toothpaste. You would have to be blind in both eyes to be trying to argue with the statistics. You are full of shit & dont have a leg to stand on.
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
@LendMeYourHand You obviously have no experience with anything medical, take a look at the bigger picture, why of all things would they use flouride. Oh and the CDC is focused on research and prevention of disease also known as epidemiology. If this flouride theory was really true and such a big deal i think there would be a bigger outcry from the public and medical community, especially in research because the flouride would be altering results.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@LendMeYourHand Were are you getting the thought that flouride could cause mind altering effect, im really curious as to how you came up with this.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 Well, FluorIDE is in a state of decay which means it is emitting radiation. All other electronegative elements containing halide attributes are as listed. Radon,Xenon,Neon,KRYPTON,Uranium,Plutonium. The simple fact that the zap is a physical attack on the pineal & brain region as a short circuit & not mind altering. Effects of tryptamine will release higher doses of serotonin which will later run out & causes insomnia & anger. And yes, a higher risk of permanent brain damage.
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
@LendMeYourHand ok well if its the flouride causing the zaps, then why do many people get them once they stop taking the drug, I think it is way more likely that they are caused by a relative loss of seritonin and norepinephrine in the synaps.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 Right, i agree that serotonin is atleast partially responsible for the zaps. Once the serotonin levels are depleted, the tryptomine in Fluoride becomes the substitute for the natural effects. However this leaves the patient unable to produce serotonin naturally. Once they attempt to back off of the medication, the bodies melatonin system becomes imbalanced & unable to produce serotonin properly, but doctors try to convince patients that this is irreversible, that is a lie.
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
@LendMeYourHand I have to disagree. It seems more likely that the pt would be experiencing a "relative" loss of serotonin and norepi because of down regulation of autoreceptors. Also there are antidepressants that do not have fluoride but the people get brain zaps. "Chronic Duloxetine Treatment Induces Specific Changes in the Expression of BDNF Transcripts and in the Subcellular
Localization of the Neurotrophin Protein" Neuropsychopharmacology (2007) 32, 2351–2359
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 Whoah, touche'. As ridiculous as it sounds, i do try to dumb it down a bit for the readers. Very informative studies none the less. I can get heated, but i only want to find the truth.. So if i am wrong, i have no difficulty accepting new results. But i seriously need cross referencing to convince me as some scientists are biased to some extent &/or driven by an agenda of personal gain. I do also recognize different types of zaps that are not in relation to SSRI's.
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
@LendMeYourHand Yeah I agree, these zaps can prob. be caused by many other things just as MODS can be caused by SIRS, sepsis, or noninfectious stimuli the end result is the same. When it comes to antidepressants though, my initial though is the relative loss of serotonin and/or norepi. A good study would be to see if pt's have more zaps with ssri or ssnri withdrawal!!!
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@LendMeYourHand another article is "HISTOPATHOLOGICAL INVESTIGATION OF FLUORIDEINDUCED NEUROTOXICITY IN RABBITS" Fluoride Vol. 36 No. 2 95-105 2003 Research Report 95 that supports the theory that fluoride can cause brain damage at extreme levels, but if a person is not taking a medication with fluoride it isnt likely that its the cause of the zaps. BTW you may have to have access to these journal if you can't I can email them
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 I would be interested in reading that article, could you give me a link? I am looking into a couple water diagnostic systems right now. The cheapest route being test strips, but these only respond at 10PPM as i would be more convinced with mg/l. I will also delve into other potential substances that may be in the water as well, as my research does not end here. Though my main study has primarily been on Fluoride & as of yesterday noted its contribution to greenhouse gases
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
@LendMeYourHand idk why but i cant post the link, see if you can get it through google scholar. I have a subscription for a ton which is why I can see them. Most have to be paid for but I can send them in PDF format.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 But in my case i was not taking high milligrams & it was relevant during a 2 year period with zaps of no changes in my diet other than a fluoridated water system, Which is suggestive of specific dosage levels indicating a minor loss in melatonin processes. So as i am highly sensitive to this may play a role in my case. As it is only relevant to the accumulation of fluoride over a 4 year period which through accumulation surfaced, & then subsided from non use of Fluoride.
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 Were are you getting the thought that flouride could cause mind altering effect, im really curious as to how you came up with this.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 LMFAO, Dental Fluorosis is caused by fluoride. Wow, you are pretty dumb. Now it is relevant that you are talking out of your ass. These people need the TRUTH & not your dumb statements that contain no relevance to any actual studies. I suggest everyone understand exactly what a electronegative fluorescing ionic particle is before they sound as stupid as speedracer does right now.
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
@LendMeYourHand to the point of me sounding dumb. yeah I dont know much about electronegative fluorescing ionic particles and im more than willing to say that but I know a great deal about pathophys something you seem to have no knowledge. Oh and yeah you are right about the flourosis I was confused for a moment its not something I typically deal with
speedracer0197 1 year ago
So lets evaluate this Fluoride more in depth. Hmmm electronegative ionic particle classified as a halide that glows under ultra violet light. By adding sodium, we get villiaumite. Sodium crystals form in perfect octahedral coordination amplifying the particles through a prismatic UV spectrum, Now we know only low doses of gamma are safe for brain functions & not UV, we also know that there is only 1 halide element that is safe to humans: hydrogen . other halides: neon,xenon,radon,uranium,F-
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
The TRUTH..... I havent been on any meds & i use to hear the zaps. These ssri's must be in the water i suspected. So i bought & steam distiller & they went away. Might i mention i was having the zaps since i moved into an area that offers public fluoridation, as before i was drinking well water. So i did research & discovered the main ingredient in these ssri's & BEYOND in almost all pharmaceutical drugs is Fluoride & how that even a 10mg pill far exceeds the CDC's recommendations
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
Ok does a brain zap mean a slight tick, or shake like u do when ur on ecstacy?
coz i didnt take my anti dipressants for a week and i think its also a combination of lack of sleep and then i get this funny pause and slight thing like a caffine buzz its lasts less then a second then stops then a few minutes later it happens again then it doesnt happen then it happens
Nouri8885 1 year ago
floride and mercury based ssri's destroy parts of your brain, chemicly labodomizing you, so your body will stop producing natural chemicals, and the only way to get those chemicals is to take the drug. customer for life.
ph33ric 1 year ago
the zapps come at anytime, make you drop things, it is like a part of your brain has been lanced off with a scalpel, really, get a slither of glass, really fine, and run it as fast as you can across your eyeball, thats almost what a zap feels like. I have memory problems also. . i am a walking zombie, just because i was a bit fed up. DD
DoyleProperties 1 year ago
i'm currently on venlofaxine. I have tried getting off for about 3 yes, the brain zapps almost caused me to go to hospital. for anyone reading this, hope someone does, i can only say dont do it.
DoyleProperties 1 year ago
BRAIN ZAPS ARE EXTREMELY PAINFUL. THE PAIN SHOOTS EVERYWHERE IN THE HEAD AND FACE AREA. IT WILL MOVE TO THE BODY LATER IN MONTHS TO YEARS. THE DAMAGE IS PERMANENT. PSYCHIATRISTS ARE AWARE OF THE HARM THEY ARE DOING TO YOU, THEY LAUGH YOU CRY.
draziom902 1 year ago
I've never heard of the brain zaps being permanent....
IlySAmuffaBE 1 year ago
Slowly, means SLOWLY. I went from 300 mg to 225 mg for a few weeks. Once confident with no changes in mood etc, then 150 mg (which is one capsule in my case). Then I opened the cap and did 75% then 50% then 25% etc. But the last bit is the worst. For a few week I just put a few granules on my finger to swallow. But everyone is different. Just don't go too quick. Also, very important, make sure you are happy and in a good space or there will be a problem. Good Luck.
Trackstar2211 1 year ago
Hi, could you please tell me what this feels like? I am about to lower my dose very slightly, and am frightened of this withdrawal symptom in particular.
I heard that omega 3 can help. Is that true?
Hayley
LittleMissAdventia 1 year ago
@LittleMissAdventia
personally, the brain zaps are just strange-not uncomfortable, debilitating, or even annoying. they definitely DON'T hurt at all. just a weird sensation in your brain-like a *pfftt* noise inside your head. they're quite difficult to explain, but you'll know what they are when you have them. shifting your eyes quickly will cause them to increase in frequency but not intensity. again, weird, but if you're expecting them, not scary. i'm going to try the omega 3 too. good luck!
maddy20051 1 year ago
@maddy20051 Thankyou!
I am lowering very slowly. had enough of being a slave.
LittleMissAdventia 1 year ago
Please Anyone even considering antidepressants LISTEN to this video! I have been hooked on Effexor for 20 years and can not get off due to these "BRAIN ZAPS". You hear the noise in the video, well you will hear that in your head when the ZAPS hit you. Also when they hit so does a wave of dizziness that is like gravity pulling you in one or another direction. I do not know the creator of this video but I do know that Effexor will initially make you feel more STABLE.
aDrivenWedge 1 year ago
actualy the brain zap thing is sometimes true for antidepression meds but u can get off ur doc will perscribe lower and lower doses until eventualy ur on such a low dose u wont feal and withdraw symptomes when u get off of it
MrMearll 1 year ago
problem with antidepressants is that it causes impotency as a side effect and you can't fall in love anymore while taking them because your emotions and feelings are blocked. problem is some people got permanent impotency for the rest of their lives after quiting the drug. it's called the 'post SSRI sexual dysfunction' you can read about it on wikipedia. it's no joke, read the forums about people having PSSD. PSSD means sex problems even if you don't take AD anymore. newspapers report is also!
MisanthropistDude 1 year ago
ive been fighting paxil for ten years
the dangers are very real
r1s1u1t1 1 year ago
This is why people should smoke weed instead!
novatron11 1 year ago
FUCK ALL SSRI's
camaroman87 1 year ago
brain zaps are not permanant! I got off effexor and they lasted for a while but I dont get them now.
clidreamer77 1 year ago
@clidreamer77 They're not permanent to you, perhaps. I still get them.
Jaquitita 1 year ago 5
@Jaquitita Did you try tapering off by decreasing the dosage with at least 2 or 3 weeks before decreasing again until you get to microdose levels? I'm going through protracted withdrawal symptoms with the help of a special supplement developed in Canada, brain zaps are subsiding, but it's been 4 months only. Withdrawal from SSRIs can last up to 18 months, then you have no more side effects. And they don't cause damage, just the horrible experience.
finnerss 1 year ago
@clidreamer77 You took a very low dose of effexor for a very short time and you are very young. Try taking it for a long time and high dose. You will get permanent brain damage.
draziom902 1 year ago
I'm damned lucky and I know it. 10+ years on 40mg of Paxil and I quit cold turkey on May 4, 2009. It was three weeks of sheer hell, but one symptom I DIDN'T get were these so-called "brain zaps." I've heard them described and they sound awful.
I treated myself as if I had a horrible flu - tea, bedrest, a few things that helped me personally ("Rescue Remedy", beta carotene, etc) and a ton of tears and tissues. Then one day I woke up feeling human again. The nightmare DOES end. Eventually.
Merricat42 1 year ago
Brain zaps and short term memory loss is clearly brain damage. You can make up whatever euphemistic explanations you want but a normal brain does not do this only a damaged brain does this. THAT IS BRAIN DAMAGE PEOPLE AND DOCTORS! Apparently some people can recover while others are left permanently disabled.
MrJazz1910 1 year ago
Brain zaps and short term memory loss is clearly brain damage. You can make up whatever euphemistic explanations you want but a normal brain does not do this only a damaged brain does this. THAT IS BRAIN DAMAGE PEOPLE AND DOCTORS! Apparently some people can recover while others are left permanently disabled.
MrJazz1910 1 year ago 8
@MrJazz1910 Like duh lol
Jaquitita 1 year ago
@MrJazz1910 Brain damage is such a terrible way of saying this, people with mental disorders such as schizophrenia or even blessing such as being a genius is not considered normal but this doesn't mean they have brain damage. schizophrenics have hallucinations and symptoms way worse than a "brain zap" but this is not a qualifying manifestation of brain damage otherwise mental health would be called "Care of the Brain Damaged Individual".
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@MrJazz1910 to continue, many seniors have short term memory loss, are they brain damaged? Upregulation and down regulation of neuro receptors occurs in many nonpharmacological situations and sometimes these can be chronic or acute. So under your view or thinking a herion addict would be considered brain damaged if he/she is withdrawling and craves for the rest of their life.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@MrJazz1910
What a load of shite. It is a symptom of your brain re-adjusting, brain damage is an entirely different subject.
TheSnakewizard 1 year ago
EFFEXOR IS AN EVIL DRUG!!!! Brain zaps from HELL!
ihateEffexor 1 year ago
i just got off celexa or citalopram 40mg and the 3rd day i got the brain zaps and dizzy as hell how long does dis last cus i was on meds for 3 years and i didnt get a refill so i decided to get off the meds cold turkey heeeeeeeeeellp feel like shit im just gonna drink and smoke a blunt
chikoceaze 1 year ago
Provide some studies and then I'll believe you. The idea of permanent damage is far-fetched - the brain is extremely flexible and resilient to change. Spreading theories with no research basis is dangerous and you should think twice or three times before doing it. In the academic community, you are what we call a 'hack'.
yamumyamumyamum 1 year ago
@yamumyamumyamum First of all, who is "we"? You often refer yourself in 3rd person? Second, find out yourself. Google it. Not so difficult, is it?
Jaquitita 1 year ago
@Jaquitita google this "Chronic Duloxetine Treatment Induces Specific Changes in the Expression of BDNF Transcripts and in the Subcellular
Localization of the Neurotrophin Protein" Neuropsychopharmacology (2007) 32, 2351–2359
Understanding the difference between damage and "remodeling" of a cell (to put it simply) are very different. Ischemic tissue can lead to necrosis which would be damaged. Up/down regulation of autoneurons isn't necessarily damage, often times it isn't.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@yamumyamumyamum tell me "miss acedemic" how the fuck do you do a study on a brain fucked by continued use of a drug before the continued use
are most ssri not relatively new
r1s1u1t1 1 year ago
@r1s1u1t1 this is how you study it.... "Chronic Duloxetine Treatment Induces Specific Changes in the Expression of BDNF Transcripts and in the Subcellular
Localization of the Neurotrophin Protein" Neuropsychopharmacology (2007) 32, 2351–2359
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 a 3 week study using duloxetine on rats is most definitely not a study on the effects of long term use ssri 's on a HUMAN brain.
r1s1u1t1 1 year ago
@r1s1u1t1 well killing humans to study their brain is unethical, but here are some more studies
"Behavioural and neuroplastic effects of the new-generation antidepressant agomelatine compared to fluoxetine in glucocorticoid receptor-impaired mice" [Int J Neuropsychopharmacol] 2010 Jul; Vol. 13 (6), pp. 759-74. Date of Electronic Publication: 2009 Sep 24
"Flesinoxan challenge suggests that chronic treatment with paroxetine in rats does not desensitize receptors controlling 5-HT synthesis."
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 some argue using rats for research is unethical
r1s1u1t1 1 year ago
@r1s1u1t1 psychiatrists should eat these drugs themselves and give them to their family members as well. Psychiatrists ..... Welcome to the NEW HOLOCAUST. The most dangerous thing in this world is a PSYCHIATRIST. Silent but DEADLY. STOP PSYCHIATRY!.
draziom902 1 year ago
@draziom902 I suggested to my psycho to try them for 3 weeks
he said "i dont need them" i said" good so the only thing
you should experience is the side effects/withdrawal.
he wouldnt ...13 years "medical training" to be a legal drug pusher
My naturopath on the other hand ,whom i questioned about the
safety of his treatments said "I HAVE NEVER given a patient
anything i havent tried on MYSELF"
r1s1u1t1 1 year ago
@r1s1u1t1 All psychiatrists should be imprisoned for life with no parole. These psych drugs are dangerous and deadly. be careful with these drugs. Save your life.
draziom902 1 year ago
@r1s1u1t1 "Flesinoxan challenge suggests that chronic treatment with paroxetine in rats does not desensitize receptors controlling 5-HT synthesis." [Neurochem Int] 2008 Dec; Vol. 53 (6-8), pp. 236-43. Date of Electronic Publication: 2008 Apr 22.
Serotonin transporter imaging with [123I]beta-CIT SPECT before and after one year of citalopram treatment of obsessive-compulsive disorder. [Neuropsychobiology] 2006; Vol. 53 (1), pp. 40-5. Date of Electronic Publication: 2006 Jan 04.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@r1s1u1t1 Long-term response to successful acute pharmacological treatment of
psychotic depression. Journal of Affective Disorders 123 (2010) 238–242
Comparative efficacy of antidepressants in preventing relapse in anxiety disorders — A meta-analysis Journal of Affective Disorders 123 (2010) 9–16
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@r1s1u1t1 One must decide if the risks/side efects outweigh the benefits mush like the use of immunosuppressive drugs after an organ transplant.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 Dude, cmon man, don't spout theory's around here. There's people suffering SEVER damage form these drugs. This is no joke. Psychiatric drugs cause violence and suicide. This is a VERY SERIOUS topic. To experience these drugs is a tragedy. It is absolutely horrific. I cant believe you say its OK to take them.
draziom902 1 year ago
@draziom902 I take them everyday! These are not theories, I am backing them up with evidence from peer reviewed biomed journals. Have you ever seen the transformation lithium or zyprexa can have on a manic or schitzo patient. I have it works well for many and has significantly improved their quality of life. Ive also seen what people not on these med can do, murder, suicide, rape just as bad as your CLAIM about people on them.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 Oh my GOD!. How long have you been taking them and which drugs are you on and what doses?. The studies you read are from psychiatrists themselves who make up bullshit about how these drugs work. THEY DONT KNOW HOW THEY WORK!. You're so young, why take the risk on these drugs?. Its impossible to get off!. The violence and suicide is from people in (WITHDRAWALS) not their original illness returning as psychiatrists claim. Oh my god, i am speechless.
draziom902 1 year ago
@draziom902 and by seen I mean Ive seen their victims, not cool. I do take this serious which is why I fight for what I see as the truth by providing factual evidence of the sucess of these drugs and not making claims only based on my individual experience. And yeah I get the zaps!
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 Before anybody takes the risk to take psychiatric drugs they must be fully informed. Most are not. Psychiatrists don't inform of risks. I'm 36 and these drugs destroyed my life. I have permanent brain damage (zaps) flat mood, neuropathy etc. Its scary and deadly. Were you informed of the risks before taking these drugs?. I feel sorry for you because these drugs cause DEATH!. Please be careful with these drugs. They are 1000X worse than street drugs.
draziom902 1 year ago
@draziom902 I have family members who have taken them for a long time and its amazing to see how much they have improved. I have never heard of neuropathy from an SSRI, do you have any comorbid conditions? I must disagree about the street drugs, herion and meth are pretty bad. As for the journal articles being lies, they are peer reviewed and not all psychs conducting them.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 LOL! what the.... Your family members improved with psychotropics?. Dude.. they may help in the beggining, but then tolerance builds up and the dose has to be raised. Then there's the poop out effect where it doesn't work and then needs to be switched to another and another. Ultimately these drugs after long term use is impossible to get off. The withdrawals are LIFE THREATENING. I was on SSRI's for a long time and the shrink took me off very quick. I developed central pain.
draziom902 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 As for cormorbid yes i have. I take Oxycodone for the painful zaps and Klonopin for raging anxiety all caused by SSRI/Benzo withdrawal. The SSRI's have worse withdrawal than Heroin/Pain killers. The journal articles you read are fabricated, deceptive, dangerous, and wrong. I'll send you to a link of people suffering eternal damage from Psychotropic drug use. You're in for a hell of a shock as to what these drugs do.
draziom902 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 What did the shrinks diagnose you with?. How long have you been on psychotropics, what dose, which drugs?.
draziom902 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 not sure what your problem is but if you UNDERSTOOD anything about severe depression you would know that there is signifigant cognitive impairment which include decision making
r1s1u1t1 1 year ago
@r1s1u1t1 your right I dont know anything about it, but somehow I seem to be able to understand those articles I posted. I take 90 mg cymbalta also but just cause i like how it tastes
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 a little rat told me about the dangers.He escaped a ssri study,to which he lost all his friends and family to suicide ,violence or decapitation.
r1s1u1t1 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 You take 90mg's of Cymbalta because you like how it tastes?. Do you have a drug addiction problem?. Are you a street drug user? any alcohol?
draziom902 1 year ago
@draziom902 about the taking cymbalta for taste and not knowing about depression was a joke
speedracer0197 1 year ago
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@speedracer0197 OK. You didnt answer my other questions though
draziom902 1 year ago
@draziom902 If you must know, recurrent MDD and generalized anxiety disorder. I have questions too, how do you know all psychs are bad and lie, where is the evidence of your claim of withdrawal from SSRI worse than herion and being deadly, evidence of the HIGH prevelance of serious side effects other than suicide which is rare but still a listed side effect.
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@draziom902 postulate this, heparin can cause HIT (Heparin-induced thrombocytopenia) in nearly 30% of people, 5% of cases are the deadlier form (HIT type 2). So should surgeons stop using it?
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 Nobody is informed about risks. There is no benefit either. Psychiatrists routinely lie about the safety of their drugs. They aren't safe. They cause suicide and homicide.
draziom902 1 year ago
@yamumyamumyamum Couldn't agree with you more. Plus, anecdotally the idea that brain zaps are rare doesn't pan out. His description and elaborate sensory presentation in this video imply that your brain is literally shocking itself, when "zaps" are simply another type of vertigo.
unholyimage 1 year ago
@unholyimage The zaps are being picked up by the pineal & not your real ears. This however is not conclusive to mental delusion. infact it is quite real when the main ingredient in all SSRI's is electronegative particles. This Fluoride is interacting in conflict to our bodily voltage levels. It would be similar to potential arcing of your motherboard. It is happening to all users but some are more perceptive to it or at low levels of serotonin, which is common from lack of sleep or insomnia.
LendMeYourHand 1 year ago
@yamumyamumyamum Damaged Neurons from psychiatric drugs regenerate with the damage. There is no way around it. You're bypassing the BBB (Blood Brain Barrier). Psychiatrists destroy the brain and mind for life. There is no hope once you take psych drugs and have brain zaps and pain. Its for life. Neurogenisis works with neuroplasticity of an already damaged warped brain which its chemicals have been altered. Psychiatrists have damaged the brain of these people for life.
draziom902 1 year ago
@draziom902 Why would passing the BBB matter? A lot of drugs do this as well as many hormones, and cytokines do this in a "normal" brain every day. And just because a neuro is damaged doesnt mean it will "regenerate" a damaged cell. Does a human who lost his arm to a shark have children with a missing arm?
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 The BBB is there to PROTECT neurotoxins to not go INSIDE the CNS. Drugs designed to get through the BBB are psychotropics (mind altering drugs) which do nothing but damage the brain and CNS. No other drug goes through the BBB besides psychiatric drugs. Normal hormones that pass the BBB is essential to brain health. A Neuron damaged in the brain regenerates and damages all other healthy neurons. This is not the case with other body parts. The brain is the human's computer.
draziom902 1 year ago
@draziom902 ok what is your definition of damage, do you have any research articles I could read?
speedracer0197 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 the damage occurs at the cellular level. these drugs are designed to interrupt and DAMAGE normal brain activity. I have plenty of articles. I'll send you the link to many articles you can read about psychiatric drug (chemical lobotomy)
draziom902 1 year ago
@speedracer0197 You're quite young. Do you take or have taken these medications?. Just wondering.
draziom902 1 year ago
its true
bluestar66677 1 year ago
I quit cymbalta 60mg cold turkey and by day five my ears were ringing so bad I could not hear. Every time I would turn my head or just move my eyes I would get a swishing felling through my body. I had to get back on them just so I could go to work.
8bert9 1 year ago
I went off Effexor cold turkey around 6 years ago and it was awful. The brain zaps seemed never ending for 6 weeks, but then they got less and less. I still get the occasional zap 6 years later, but it's better than being hooked on Effexor forever.
birthingbabe 1 year ago
OMG PEOPLE ALL THEESE YEARS IVE STOPPED THE EFFEXOR ANTIDEPRESSENT I ALWAYS FELT ELECTRICITY ALL OVER MY BODY AND IN MY BRAIN AND NO BODY BELEIVED ME AND DOCTORS TELL ITS ANXIETY...IVE SUFFERED HELL DURING 4 YEARS AFTER STOPPING THEM..AND NOW I TAKE THEM AGAIN AND IT RELEIVES THE ELECTRICITY...AND NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY FINALLY... I WAS 15 WHEN THE GAVE ME AND OBLIGED ME TO TAKE THE MEDS AND NOW IM OBLIGED TO LIVE WITH THEM FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE EITHER THAT ILL FEEL OVERSTIMULATED ELECTRICALLY
soulhasnoname 1 year ago
I think everyone should take this video into consideration if they aren't on anti-depressants already. I've taken them on and off for about 10 years. Eventually I started feeling worse than normal and the withdraw symptoms can trigger suicidal actions. And god damn those brain shocks.
I stopped for 4 years, and started having problems again. I was recently put on Celexa and Depakote. Biggest mistake I ever did. Its been 2 months weening off and I still can't get rid of the side affects.
RPDXC 1 year ago