The Case for Christmas part 8

[gtrfurby]

now where is that in the text?

[notevenclose4comfort]

where is that found that at?

[MrBysa]

funny it seems i did not see that anywhere?

I did see Jesus don't know botany, though ha ha ha.

seems you just cant win for losin bro!

[livinfree123]

People dont listen to this FALSE TEACHER luvdady. He has TONS of sock accounts. He is luvdady luvdady1,luvdade,luvdade2, grtmonkey, standupyetagain, kennycuda, bobthekillerhindu, standupforhim, lawdestroyer. After 10 I stop counting. IF YOUR POINT IS VALID why would you need multipul channels to defend it and make it appear as if there were a large number of people agreeing with you?

[bananasscareme]

well do we all die?

how is it you have never answered how that is biblicaly?

it seems as if you had the answer because the bible says it is of no private interp right?

now how is it we are all going to die yet the bible says we don't?

pretty funny,to me who the teacher is here.

yet the blind lead the blind.

please give me a scripture from your whole vast knowledge.

prove us wrong take the pepsi challenge.

[livinfree123]

bananasscareme your question is out of context, and I know what you are up to. Your question reminds me of Satan temping Eve by manipulating and lying but using scripture to cover his tracks. "Hath God not said" and then Satan goes on to deceive Eve and Adam. I pray you repent of your evil works.

[bananasscareme]

ludady is luvdady1 there is no luvdade and the only sock is gtrmonky,which was an obvious joke

and the rest of us are difrent entitys entirely.

and as far as false isnt that a mistruth stating such?

[livinfree123]

bananasscareme, luvdady, luvdady1 this is too funny. You claim to have no sock accounts but the ones you list and you write this while logged into ANOTHER one of your sock accounts! People if that is not enough to expose this person for lying then Google youtube: luvdade and see the account he did have and the comment left by that channel. The channel has been deleted but the comments still remain on YT. luvdady please repent as 1lie is sin & death (hell). Then be baptized before it is too late!

[gtrjunky]

Believe me Livinfree, he doesn't even qualify to be considered a "teacher". He's just plain false and a God hater full of the poison of asps.

He really thinks that the Lord is just "cheering" him on. "Yeah, you get out there and call people names"! Satan is saying:"Well done thy good and faithful servant. Enter into thy _________".

[obamapickscotton]

on the other hand IF YOUR POINT IS VALID, WHY NOT JUST TELL US WHY? SEEMS EASY ENOUGH RIGHT?

WELL I THINK 1 COR proves you wrong,

[gtrjunky]

"Us"...that's funny.

[obamapickscotton]

almost as funny as that gimp suit

[bananasscareme]

You really do have a problem comprehending things.

[luvdade2]

open invite please post on luvdadys vid if you can biblicaly prove what cam is saying is true. 1 out of 1 people will die.

no one escapes it.

[ASeedSower234]

please tell me the name of this preacher he seems to preach the truth a rare thing in this day and age..thank you

[standupyetagain]

please see luvdadys video refuteing the scriptual errors in this message.

one out one people will not die.

[preachercam]

My name is Cameron Buettel and you can find out about me at onceuponacross(dot)com

[onthewaytothecrapper]

seems you have time to only attack rob bell and defend wotm.

unless you have no defense of course yet someone who preaches must have a scriptural basis right?

[stillstandingup]

my posts will not go through on nooma?

anyway God does trust us, Paul says SO.

4100. But235 as2531 we were allowed1381 of5259 God2316 to be put in trust4100 with the3588 gospel,2098 straight out of strongs

[gtrjunky]

Got the shoe again huh? Ha Ha Ha! Perhaps your god "trusts" you but the God of the bible does not exercise faith and does not trust in man.

[stillstandingup]

But235 as2531 we were allowed1381 of5259 God2316 to be put in trust4100 with the3588 gospel,2098

I think you need to read A real bible the message is good for people like you to read it is in real plain english

[stillstandingup]

1 tim 1:11According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.

But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.

1thess 2:4

it seems you know not what you speak?

[stillstandingup]

as they say in vegas "read it and weep."

[stillstandingup]

its ok gtr, that is just the bitter sting of defeat

[gtrjunky]

That's right, keep telling yourself that.

The shoe!!! Ha ha ha!

[stillstandingup]

God tested us thoroughly to make sure we were qualified to be trusted with this Message. Be assured that when we speak to you we're not after crowd approval—only God approval.

here you might actually comprehend that version.

[gtrjunky]

Here's alittle greek for you to chew on. The word "entrusted" as it's used there is an active verb on the part of God Himself who made Paul the "trustworthy" one to carry the Gospel. Appearantly you don't qualify. Perhaps you should read the prior verses that talk about the ungodly and the profane.

[stillstandingup]

make it say what you want.

Paul plainly says God has trusted him with something. ie faith. by you and your boy toy cam both said.

[gtrjunky]

Anyway...u got served!

[stillstandingup]

and they who say they see yet are still blind.

how so? seems to me you need to read a strongs.

you have yet to explain 4100 away.

yet I am the one getting served?

you are as dumb as they come, sorry but how do you get by in life? you are probly some country bumpkin with a hayseed in your mouth sayin well the preacher said it was soit must be true,he wuz right vcr's are the devil box.

and by the way were is that verse there in the bible? than why do we have to preach if God doesn't need us?

[stillstandingup]

But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel,

seems you are grasping at straws here it clearly states it.

[gtrjunky]

You see when God empowers a person to do something He is not exercising faith in the individual, He is acting on behalf of His own power. So God is relying on Himself. Of course it's hard to explain that to unregenerates who serve their father the devil.

[Gen0sphere]

I don't know why you focus on the pictures in the background, didn't you hear the message?

[gtrjunky]

This is a very thorough and accurate Gospel message. It tells the whole story and gives you big picture.

[kennycuda]

yes it tells how warped your facts are.

nice pick on lawdestroyer.

[kennycuda]

speaking of big pictures how you doing tex?

[bobthekillerhindu]

X}

nice pics cowboy!

[standupforhim]

Im not going to judge you but those might not be the most"Christian" pictures to put on myspace.

[standupforhim]

gtrjunky | May 15, 2008

"lawdestroyer" seems to be struggling with Homosexuality. Please pray for him because I don't think he knows that it's wrong. He keeps using the picture from my Myspace page for his own. Myspace(dot)com/gtrjunky

[standupforhim]

i mean it is right there where you posted on his acct? so who knows?

[PrincesssDaisy]

how sweet, a baby in a crib, a christmass tree in the church ... let me quess, it was in december on a sunday ? Do you know that the real gospel is different than the picture we see in this video? What did you say again about false teachings ... mmmm if it is against scripture, it is a false teaching ... right?

[lawdestroyer]

hey though while your here to defend yourself how does biblically speaking does 1 out of one die?

[gtrjunky]

I went to wayofthemasterradio(dot)com like you said...It was AWESOME!!!!!

[lawndestroyer]

I changed my mind!

[lawndestroyer]

Go to wayofthemasterradio(dot)com, it's awesome!

[lawdestroyer]

this guy is a hypocrite he is a twister of words and scripture!!!

he is a destroyer of the faith.

[gtrjunky]

I think you have him confused with Rob Bell.

Talk about "destroyer of the faith"? That guy is turning the christian faith into corned beef hash.

[lawdestroyer]

wotm clone, now he never did say where rob said it was peter lost faith in peter. now as I look around you haven't answered that either? my ears are just fine. it seems you take half of what you want to hear. now it is one thing to say something but its harder to face the facts!

[gtrjunky]

Now, now be nice.

[lawdestroyer]

I thought I was.

[gtrjunky]

The important thing to remember is that 1 out of 1 people die. We need to preach the gospel.

[lawdestroyer]

boy if you believe that your really off the deep end.

[gtrjunky]

I guess you got the shoe on "expose"?

[lawdestroyer]

yah your daddy was tired of me running down your "uncle ray" expose them and him for the sham artist they are.I guess he had heard enough truth, and and it was his only recourse. so where now did rob say it was peters faith in peter? cause I only heard that it was his faith that he could be like Jesus.

ps.

I take it your not going to reply on your other posts you left.

[gtrjunky]

Well it didn't take long this time.

[lawdestroyer]

you really should buy your dad a new shirt it seems he got it from your moms side of the closet.

[lawdestroyer]

wow your pretty funny guy!

[luvdady]

now I see what you mean by "getting your underwear in a bunch" it seems your pretty good at it.

I didnt know my space allowed THOSE TYPE of pictures.

[lawdestroyer]

how did cam ever get the pulpit he a sodomite?

[lawdestroyer]

I mean that would be about the only people that would let him get away with that unless there was no one there? could be?

I may not be perfect but I will tell you this your pappy is quick to judge.

[gtrjunky]

What does this have to do w/ this thread?

[lawdestroyer]

everything and nothing. it seems if you guys make it up as you go I might as well to.

[lawdestroyer]

you must be a calvinist?

[lawdestroyer]

hey did you see left behind the movie

it was a documentary.

people left it behind when they moved out of there houses they watched it once and didn't try to return it out of embarrassment they bought it.

[preachercam]

hey dude, WOTMR April 16 hour 2 has some open air I did whilst in Huntington Beach Ca. The audio appears in the last 10 minutes where I debate Bruce the angry atheist if you're interested.

[lawdestroyer]

why do you lead him with your mental ascension or better yet do you grab his nose with the pliers you preach with?

[MrBysa]

really where is that in the scripture?

oh the un-comfort bible of half baked theology?

[luvdady]

now as a new kid comes on the scene junky cam and jump all over him, accuse him falsely so keeping tabs on the posts. befriended him.

now we have been playing mind games with junky we get together log in or out right after each other, to mess with him but I assure you we are all separate entities. now I do not agree with alot of things on the Christian market.

I give everyone a fair shake but don't judge someone else's message when yours is full of falsehoods

[luvdady]

applying biblical standards:27 seconds in

1 cor 15: 51Take notice! I tell you a mystery (a secret truth, an event decreed by the hidden purpose or counsel of God). We shall not all fall asleep [in death], but we shall all be changed (transformed)

[luvdady]

now this being said how is everyone will taste death biblical?

my point being,how will I die if I am raptured or depending on your theology, when Christ returns at the end of the age?

[luvdady]

than also to further make his point he explains there are two certainties death and judgment!

now this may seem like a moot point BUT it simply is not true, and therefore scripturally inaccurate. now I do not judge unfairly just as I have presented scripture to say my thoughts, I have not had the same courtesy, by either gtrjunky or cam the best they could say it was a "concept" and I have been accused of slander and making fictitious accounts. they just happened to be coworkers. cont

[kbcLOGOS]

Re: the Rob Bell stuff, I have posted this as a video response to "Rob Bell/Nooma expose" at Cam's request, not so much because it sheds light on the Rob Bell discussion, but at Cam's request, following people asking him how he would present a gospel message.

[kbcLOGOS]

Legosrocks, I get the feeling that these posts are a continuation of a conversation elsewhere (you mentioned being blocked)... and you keep saying that nobopdies answered your question. Can I ask what it was?

[kbcLOGOS]

Guys, i have no problem with you debating issues in this thread, but can we please confine them to responses to THIS video... there's nothing in this post that deals with Rob Bell, so lets save that for a different thread. Also, please refrain from name-calling & personal attacks; it shreds your credibility as a witness of Christ. I shudder to think what a non Christian would think about us after reading some of our discussions across youtube. (John 13:35)

[gtrjunky]

Perhaps people should take a look at that DIO video and see your comments and see what you've learned at church?

P.S. your comments are on the wrong channel.

[luvdady]

seems your excuses cant hold up eh?

your funny. except your so sad and pitiful, we decided to give you a break, because legos is mopping the floor with you.

good luck ritz crakers on sale this week at kroger 1 for $1 ;)

[kennycuda]

You are a pharisee. Just because you don't agree with everything someone else says doesn't make them a heretic. It's close-minded poeple like you that make people want to away from Christianity. Before you point out the splinter in another person's eye, pluck out the beam in your eye.

[legosrocks]

Because our life gives credibilty to the message

actually it spelled credibility and second

get your facts right.

[legosrocks]

again it is the sounds of silence.....

[legosrocks]

are you homosexual?

[legosrocks]

are you an American or an Aussie?

seems what else have you hiding?

[legosrocks]

case closed!?

what that I completely punked you out?

that you have no defense that you and cam are completely wrong?

[legosrocks]

now really what would paul washer say about you and "your rock music" do you love the goo goo dolls or u2? isnt that the worlds music?

[gtrjunky]

Perhaps people should take a look at that DIO video and see your comments and see what you've learned at church?

[legosrocks]

well were talking about you here. now where did I say 2 tim7:11?

[gtrjunky]

Perhaps people should take a look at that DIO video and see your comments and see what you've learned at church?

[gtrjunky]

Perhaps people should take a look at that DIO video and see your comments and see what you've learned at church?

[gtrjunky]

Perhaps people should take a look at that DIO video and see your comments and see what you've learned at church?

[legosrocks]

so yeah I said it so what at least I did not get in front of a church and say the bible said it!!

so lets talk about you r cover up? you and cam are false teachers and can not mount a biblical defense that will hold water or you would have stated it by now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gtrjunky]

case closed!

[legosrocks]

what you finally admit your wrong?

[legosrocks]

Sound nice, but it's not biblical.

case closed!

[legosrocks]

are you getting chased by the cat again?

you should stay in the safety of your cage or you will be one out of 1 meal for a cat.

[legosrocks]

wrong! everyone is condemned unless they turn to Christ because everyone has broken the law. The wages of sin is death. John 3:18 says that.

cam said that one though.

now do we disregard the facts here too?

[legosrocks]

yeah 2 Tim 7:11 says

"1 out of 1 people die no one is immune to it and no one escapes it. if thou get caught call it an concept of revelation principle."

now was that really your defense? 1 cor 15:22?

[legosrocks]

There's 2 kinds of revelation in this world.

1. General revelation(observable)

2. Special revelation(from God)

now I always scare persons with false scripture texts and wave a banana around to ward of spaghetti monsters. "from the mind of gtrjunky"

[gtrjunky]

2 tim 7:11? No wonder your theology is messed up.

[legosrocks]

man 1 cor 15:22? that is the best you could come up with?

really at least cam tried to twist something

not just look for something completely out of context.

[gtrjunky]

What "name" did I call you?

[legosrocks]

it was a General revelation(observable)

[gtrjunky]

What "name" did I call you?

[legosrocks]

1 cor 15:22:}

[legosrocks]

Actually I studied Law enforcement for a year and this is what we would call "compelling evidence".

well if you were a cop pigs could fly!

[gtrjunky]

Well you're certainly speaking in traditional luvdidy fashion.

[legosrocks]

again with the name calling ?

[gtrjunky]

What "name" did I call you?

[legosrocks]

Kenny, i taught a principle from Hebrews 9:27

The implicit parts of the text submit to the explicit ie Hebrews 9:27 which is true for any unbeliever. Please stop arguing about this and and try and find out why Hebrews 9:27 says what it does without contradicting passages concerning the rapture. Kenny, I just opened up and responded to some accusations you levelled at me and you change the subject.

pretty good excuse now how come he doesn't explain where he got that the idea of 1 out of 1?

[legosrocks]

i taught a principle from Hebrews 9:27

The implicit parts of the text submit to the explicit ie Hebrews 9:27 which is true for any unbeliever.

well what commentaries says that? maybe you should buy a commentary for x-mas and not trust e-sword.

[legosrocks]

really now what part of"" appointed " merans it will happen

when paul said not all of us will die? twice to 2 diferent churches?

seems cam could explain a little?

[gtrjunky]

I wonder if anyone else would like to see your "witnessing techniques" and see you "defend the truth" on "that other" video?

[legosrocks]

There's 2 kinds of revelation in this world.

1. General revelation(observable)

2. Special revelation(from God)

along with 1 Cor 15:22

that was your defense?

I would not want to post that either.

are you retarded?

[gtrjunky]

I wonder if anyone else would like to see your "witnessing techniques" and see you "defend the truth" on "that other" video?

[gtrjunky]

I wonder if others would like to observe first hand, your "edifying" language you use on non christian people?

[legosrocks]

I wonder if others would like to observe first hand, your "edifying" language you use on non christian people?

what 2 tim 7:11?

[gtrjunky]

2 tim 7:11? No wonder your theology is messed up.

[legosrocks]

well if you guys make it up as you go why not I?

[gtrjunky]

2 tim 7:11? No wonder your theology is messed up.

[gtrjunky]

2 tim 7:11? No wonder your theology is messed up.

[gtrjunky]

2 tim 7:11? No wonder your theology is messed up.

[legosrocks]

yeah 2 Tim 7:11 says

"1 out of 1 people die no one is immune to it and no one escapes it. if thou get caught call it an concept of revelation principle."

[legosrocks]

inspector comfort and capt. kirk ? they ought to call it way of the false prophets you and cam could join them!

[legosrocks]

more words of wisdom from cam-

I can evaluate the content of his message because I have Scripture to measure against.

well lets see thess or corinthians? oh not everyone is going to die?

[legosrocks]

oh more name calling-

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Hey luvdady, I'm going to try your approach:

preech yur bibel cuz john3 sez born agan sabuth jeezuz said farisees angry god u reed in contex fruum vurse 34 at friday frum yelling and screeming bibel truth.

gtrjunky (3 weeks ago)

This thread is not about the sabbath.

Do your parents know your up this late?

[gtrjunky]

You a little cranky this morning?

[legosrocks]

wrong! everyone is condemned unless they turn to Christ because everyone has broken the law. The wages of sin is death. John 3:18 says that.

cam said that one though.

i think the "context of that point is in romans

I need a fact check please!

[legosrocks]

Our faith is strong because it's based on facts and truth. If Jesus had a father named Larry then our faith is futile because that makes God's word untrustworthy, it makes Him a liar.

[legosrocks]

I got a ultimate statistics 1 out of 1 persons in this video are not telling the truth.

1 out of 1 persons need a new "preaching shirt"

1 out of 1 persons her defending their hero is as big a hypocrite as cam"

[gtrjunky]

which post?

[legosrocks]

My pastor has no formal training or education.

boy that explains alot.

study to show yourself approved.

[gtrjunky]

Dude, cut the charade. Everyone knows about your little profile game.

[legosrocks]

yah ok whatever you are getting powned and come with wild accusations you still haven't answered any question yet by the way how does everyone die if the bible doesn't say it hahahahhahahahhahahahahahahaha­hah

[gtrjunky]

Dude, cut the charade. Everyone knows about your little profile game.

[legosrocks]

boy no wonder you never made it in"law" enforcement

your like the old lady on mad tv

"he look likea man"

who was it?

he look like a man!

he look like a man

[gtrjunky]

I never told you anything about "law enforcement".

[legosrocks]

it was in your posts.

[gtrjunky]

which post?

[gtrjunky]

which post?

[legosrocks]

find it it might take some time but its there!

[legosrocks]

the one you posted

[legosrocks]

Well seeing that you are the most gifted thinker, perhaps you should have your own website,then all of us inferior-minded "gnostics" can achieve your level of understanding.Or we can just meet you somewhere on the east coast and you can beat us into the truth. boy that looks like name calling

[legosrocks]

Becoming a christian is about dying;losing my identity;becoming a bondservant.

no its about really living and being a friend of His

[legosrocks]

1 in one die sounds like a u2 song ?

throw a few f-bombs in there and a few lines

and you got next years super bowl halftime show

[legosrocks]

sorry, but it seems you got owned just like wotm! tell cam he practices what he witnesses!

have you told a lie? I have right here in this video lol

now prove me wrong, you cant.

[legosrocks]

well the good news is he can save you 20% on your car insurance.

[gtrjunky]

"I am a defender of truth, where I see injustice I defend the slandered."...by using derogatory remarks, name calling, and foul language.

[legosrocks]

when did ever use foul language? derogatory to you?

seems to me you accused me and name called first.

now do you want to answer how you came to the conclusion that all persons die?

[gtrjunky]

Dude, cut the charade. Everyone knows about your little profile game.

[legosrocks]

now here we go with the accusations!!!!

now how about we dispute the subject at hand now does the bible say we are all going to die?

[legosrocks]

He qouted Rob Bell.

actually he "mis-quoted rob bell

[gtrjunky]

Dude, cut the charade. Everyone knows about your little profile game.

[legosrocks]

I dont see that in the context any where? maybe in the commentaries?

hmm maybe everyone will not die?

maybe that is the ultimate stat?

[legosrocks]

hey did you see Paul washer 4 min examination?

he said dont believe in your heart isnt that contrary to the gospel and what Paul(the apostle) preached?

[legosrocks]

sorry dont ""trust your heart""

[legosrocks]

and once again no answer to the comment of 1 out of 1 people die.

[legosrocks]

I worry about "preachers" like this, say hey listen to what twist around. oh rob bell said this well rob bell did not say that. and all people are not going to die. yet so quick yo judge.

what did Jesus say"he who has no sin throw the first stone" so did Jesus throw any rocks?

[gtrjunky]

You can go to WayoftheMasterRadio(dot)com

and listen to the podcasts of the show. It's awesome.

[legosrocks]

well be a berean "cam says see what im saying you should look at the scriptures test it" you do what happens? "So I'm blocking you, I'll be praying for you, but I'm blocking you."

after giving biblical answers, to back up my statements and he goes in to the wotm "cold reading and starts judging me! and never answers how he arrived at the point that everyone is going to die?

now he says I have no basis than correct me?

now as these hypocrites judge bell by what he doesn't say. cont

[legosrocks]

so now he and his cohorts can not back up what they say so,what do they do? dodge the question, doubt your salvation and just flat out change the subject.

grace over law!

read 2 romans again real close.

[gtrjunky]

Are you born again?

[legosrocks]

I am a defender of truth, where I see injustice I defend the slandered. so the question really is did cam speak truth when he said all people are going to die is 1 out of 1 persons going to die?

and to do you more courtesy I will answer your question, yes I am.

[gtrjunky]

Don't you think that a "defender of truth" should also uphold truth in their personal life?

[legosrocks]

yeah and from the pulpit too

[legosrocks]

really it is sad that you cant even defend your (cams)honor well at least buy a new shirt.

I guess whats next you,ray and wotm going to do a debate on belief of the tooth fairy? well there was a quarter under my pillow when I woke up and my tooth is gone.

[gtrjunky]

I believe Cameron asked you if you are born again?

[legosrocks]

so I guess by that you have no biblical support?

[legosrocks]

seems to me he does have a point there since you know all about the bible and "cam" and you are so close?

what was he saying? did he mean that or was he figuratively speaking when he said it 5 times that everyone dies?

[legosrocks]

well seems luv was right cam is a false teacher

[luvdady]

now give a rebuttle that say otherwise if you can otherwise you got thrashed.