Why the kickboxer has a diagonal stand? Why he dont stand up like in thai-like kickboxing style? What kind of kickboxing is that? very vulnerable to low kicks :/
Do u guys even know the difference between WTF and ITF? -_- Stop commenting something based on all ur imagination . wtf and itf are totally different in their power, speed, and techniqs. No country other than korea use ITF tae kwon do -_- north korea still has its original itf. Just close ur mouth if u guys dont know -_-
@minase0906 I'm a TKD black belt, and I disargee with you, mostly because few TKD practicioners are trained in no holds barred fighting. The tools are there if you want to use them, but the problem is that TKD contests, especially Olympic ones are too rigid in their scoring system. It really causes many TKD people to only practice those kicks that will help them in competition. However, fighters like Anderson Silva use TKD in MMA, but know how to use the hands, and grappling holds as well.
man who gives a shit which style works better on the streets. unless you're soem ufc/strikforce champion, you are NOT going to be beating up 4 other dudes with your so called "superior" martial art. When you are on streets, that is where your cardio is put to the test if you see multiple guys/
I agree with minase0906, Taekwondo is one of the most practical martial arts out there. I do taekwondo too and i win in MMA's. So taekwondo is not a noob sport.
well check it, a sport is a sport, mma has rules, and tkd has rules in their match, but when it comes down to using it, most people want to defend themselves against two or more people, so grappling or goin on the floor won't do the work, TKD ,which is mostly offensive, kicks ass, it can defend you against two or more people. i agree with 9SoulFire9
What you need in fights against two or three ppl in the streets is first high tolerance of pain. And that you can only obtain due full contact sparring and competition. Semi Contact wont help you in that manner. And what you also need is stamina and high punching power. In the streets defending against two or three ppl your feet are not gonna help you unless you want to hurt yourselfe. But I never would recommend someone a sports so he can fight thugs in the streets
Where is the knockout? Anyhow, although I practice TKD myself, in this case the TKD guy wasn't that great. He fell on his ass would have been dead meat in the street scenario. So I'm not sure I'd agree with the judge's decision here.
@parahumanoid so u think because he fell over once he automatically loses the fight ?? well even if u do tkd u clearly nvr compete if u think thats true lol
I think exactly what I said, nothing more: falling is near equal to a loss in an aggressive street fight scenario. The other guy, although got his nose crunched, stayed solid on his two feet that that alone can go a very long way. Do me a favor, don't consider anything "clear" about me. You don't even know me, let alone how many and what kind of situations I went trough. Ever been in a knife fight? Errors (such as falling) are expensive when push comes to shove.
@parahumanoid I think street fights are very different to what you go through in a ring - you have rules etc. and you can afford to be creative in your combinations (which implies falling). When in a tight situation where you defend urself, you have to compromise the opponent into a state where he cannot retaliate....the two are inseperable I get it. I am just saying that I disagree with your conclusion that you draw from a fall in a fight with rules
@frannckopz fue ko tenico, viste que al peleador de kick le empeso a sangrar là nariz por eso, pero un peleador de kick que usara bien las piernas o de MT mata a uno de TK
@frannckopz f ue ko tenico, viste que al peleador de kick le empeso a sangrar là nariz?? por eso, pero un peleador de kick que usara bien las piernas o de MT mata a uno de TK
It is NOT the martial art that sucks. I don`t care if its Muay thai, kick boxing, Kung fu, Karate, MMA. Its they person who is just not a good fighter.
Hahaha stupid haters that hates TKD and little later when watching movies and surfing, I see movies where TKD owns... stupid people with no experience that just comes to hate seriously make youtube SUCK
simonJoel: POr que no te vas a lavar el orto? osea, cada uno en su arte marcial y listo, yo no opino si las demas son mierda o que , asi que SHHHH, FUCK OFF!
@kevinh59 yea, it sucks, just watch UFC, at first, everyone came with all sorts of weird and exotic backrounds, but then the numbers of martial arts dwindled down to kickboxing, muay thai, bjj, and other sorts, other martial arts such as kung fu and tkd was helplessly destroyed
@aysasa91 yea, their is striking and groundwork in ufc, but why do people take muay thai/kickboxing + juijitsu to get their combo? why not taekwondo + juijitsu? point proven.
@pigballs911 Point Prooven good sir but isn`t it more important to train in the Martial Art you are good at which makes you happy? I don`t train TKD,Muay Thai and normal boxing because i want to beat everybody up. I have fun by training. That is what counts. And btw. it is always the fighter who is responsible for his lost or his wins not the Martial art. In fact of course there is no TKD or Kung fu in UFC, when you see the heavy weight.You have to be incredible fast to score a hit with your leg
@aysasa91 there are actually plenty of people doing tkd or Kung fu in ufc, but there arent many who ONLY do one of it, all of them are trained in like 2-3 martial arts
@SnowmanPen there is nobody in the ufc that currently wastes their time with tkd or kung fu,there would be several who did it as kids before they stared to do mma,after that they found it was crap for real combat
@billysue2 really? Hmmmm tell that to the south Viet Army back in 1968. Or tell that to MMA guys that train in TKD to learn the finess of kicks and straight punches. And dont tell me U know because u dont. And if ur a tuf guy, as Im sure u will say u r, please come visit my TKD MMA school here in Houston Texas. PM me and I will send u info so we can share techniques in thier fullest form.
@jiggahippo if its a tkd mma school,thats not tkd at all.No mma elite fighter would even dream of bothering with tkd for striking,its a joke,tkd gave me incredible kicking ability because I was obsessed with training but I could rarely KO anyone with those kicks in thaiboxing when I rose through the ranks(at novice level yes),zelg galesic is the best mma fighter that came from elite tkd(world itf champ) but in mma he just kickboxes and grapples like everyone else.
@billysue2 WHAT!! ITS MY SCHOOL!! And yes I teach TKD ITF and MMA as well, You cannot be this stupid! You know what you not worth the time. Have a good life.
@jiggahippo you are teaching tkd and mma seperately then,not tkd mma.To coach mma youll need a strong background in grappling and striking or have seperate coaches for each,the head coach needs to understand all parts of fighting
@billysue2 ur rly not that smart. now i dont know what type of mma jiggahippo teaches, but K1 is a form of MMA, and that doesnt require grappling, jsut takedowns and defense against it. For example. also, head coach doesnt need to know all parts very well. as long as the guy that teaches it is competent enough, why would the ehadcoach need to know it?
@veshkeat let me educate there me lad,K1 is purely kickboxing there are allowed to clinch long enough for 1 or 2 knees thats it .Its not MMA by anyones definition.Also.the head coaches responsibilty is to cordinate students progress,how can he do that if he is ignorant of any aspect of fighting,he doesnt have to be an expert in all areas.
@veshkeat cung le hasnt trained in tkd for years prior to starting mma,he kickboxes,does sanshou and has wrestled in college.What cung le proves is that a gifted athlete with wrestling and lots of real fighting experience(sanshou not tkd) can use some kicks from tkd.Those same kicks are also in many other styles and would require no tkd training
@ikcjjtt if they had lot of kickboxing experience then yes but that wouldnt be tkd,tkd consists of wasting time of patterns,breaking ,1 step techs and self defense that doesnt work.Tkd doesnt even spar anything like they train,they spar light contact kickboxing
@billysue2 what you are describing is ineffectiveTKD training methods for a full contact MMA fight. When i say TKD, im assuming effective training methods with it-such as training 7 days a week, sparring 3 hours of a 8 hour training day full contact- hands, elbows, knees, kicks, takedowns, ect. Other time spent on some catch wresling skills and rolling. forms and breaking can go into that. 1 step sparring is a little silly, and self defense is a moot point in MMA. Thats the TKD im talking about.
@ikcjjtt you definitely have never been a fighter nor spent any time training with them with those ideas.Nobody spars 3 hours a day,they dont even spar everyday and never all out with knees and elbows,most sparring is moderate conatct technical /tactical work.There are no effective knees ,elbows or takedowns in tkd anywhere,never have been(patterns dont count ).The tkd youre fantasising about doesnt exist,if it did it would just be plain MMA.
@billysue2 um, historically, and even today some TKD schools do train in knees, elbows, and takedowns as well we punches in sparring. Its just not very popular or even common. It was much more common in the 40s and 50s and part of the 60s. TKD has never been 100% all kicks, thats a recent phenominom. Chung do kwan sparred with a similiar rule set to muay thai rule set. There is even a youtube video of chung do kwan sparring.
@ikcjjtt virtually no tkd school does that and there was no tkd in the 40s or the first part of the 50s.Since gen choi established the name tkd in 1955 there has never been any knees,elbows or takedowns in the sparring.I started training in 1984 and ive never seen anything but a dose of shite in tkd.
@billysue2 general choi did not create TKD, he just named it. TKD existed before that time, it was just under a different name-chung do kwan and mu duk kwan. the watering down started in the 1970s. So if u have never trained b4 that time, you wouldnt know. And i have seen a school in my city that acutally trained in knees, and chokes. A story of a air flight attendent defeated the plane from an unruly customer on board. She choked him out and it showed her practicing knees on pads.
@ikcjjtt There has never been any effectve grappling in any korean martial arts,except yudo which is just judo anyway so chung do kwan definitely didnt have any.
@ikcjjtt small joint manipulation isnt effective at all v a trained opponent and because it doesnt do enough sparring its not very good at throws either and the groundwork is useless.So where then did the effective grappling in old tkd come from?The answer is that it wasnt effective.All that is irrelevant now as tkd for the last 30 yrs has not included any of those things you mention.
@billysue2 hapkido also has strikes... and of course small joint manipulation doesnt work without proper training (sparring). Assuming you are sparring, i dont see what isnt effective about breaking fingers, toes, necks, nose, ect. I have had it done, it will tap you out quicker then any arm bar. And TKD started with all these techniques in its ealier carnations (chung do kwan). Only today is it ALL kicks.It wasnt like that in the past. Which is why forms look nothing like sparring.
@billysue2 dude u have no idea wat ur talking about. apparently its obvious that u dont know that much about hapkido. u think they dont have good throws or ineffective joint manipulations and useless ground work, boy u have quite a imagination going on there buddy. if u rlly and truly think that about hapkido and tkw then u mustve also think that boxing has weak punching moves, kick boxing has no idea wat there doing with their kicks and punches, jiu jitsu is ineffective at all and waste of time
@1edefs3 they are piis weak throwers compared to judoka and wrestlers/real grapplers and piss weak groundwork compared to bjj.Boxing ,kickboxing and bjj spend all their time training for free sparring,hapkido wastes their time on mostly unresisted grappling and forms just like jap jitsu.
@billysue2 we have been over this before, TKD existed before general choi came along, it was just put under a different name. My grandmaster started training long before Choi was even known about.
taekwondo guy did leave a great kick i must tell ( i train tkd myself and i am terible in that kick :P) but he did do one mistake.. he must have the guard higer up..
Does anyone know what the rules of the match were?
I'm taking this is obviously semi contact.
I am somewhat disappointed in the kick boxer. His guard was all over the place, you can't protect your head with your hands flapping about and there were too many missed opportunities for the kick boxer to have taken advantage over.
dont be so prejudice guys.there's no matter what martial arts are u learn.it depends on yourself,u train more n u get more.that's the truth.there are no greatest martial arts in this world.what if the tournament used to be the muay thai rules?that tkd guy will also use his elbow n knee to attack.
hey guys,you r so prejudice..actually,no matter what martial arts you learn,there are no greatest martial arts in this world.it depends on you're own self.if you trainibg more,u will get more.you said this tournament use tkd rules,so what happen if there are muay thai rules?that tkd guy will also use his elbow and knee to attack.martial arts are not for tournament dude,it's your life.the best fighter is when he can use his skills in many situation,especially in street fighting.
hey guys,you r so prejudice..actually,no matter what martial arts you learn,there are no greatest martial arts in this world.it depends on you're own self.if you trainibg more,u will get more.you said this tournament use tkd rules,so what happen if there are muay thai rules?that tkd guy will also use his elbow and knee to attack.martial arts are not for tournament dude,it's your life.the best fighter is when he can use his skills in many situation,especially in street fighting.
@minase0906 ok my friend you have seen alot of fights right? but have you ever been in a situation were you had to fight for your life? trust me the last thing you want is to go on the ground were there could be Broken glass. An experinced TKD student should be able to stop there opponent in one punch or kick. And i did not say the "only way" to beat TKD is on the ground. It depends on the fighter and his experince but TKD is more than enough for MMA
@Supar96Kwon you can PM it to me, I´d like to see it. But why don´t you just post the link to it here? You can´t post whole links, but just post the youtube ID of the video.
@minase0906 if he incorporates good boxing skill with it with and keeps his hands up with lil ground the speed in his kicks especially side kicks will give him the advantage
just depends on how they use it
all striking styles should have some kind of ground defence anyways or technique
just like how u will never find a judo, jiu jitsu or aikido fighter without some striking technique
@minase0906 why could Tae-kwon-do not win in MMA? its one of the most practical martial arts out there. Sorry but in a street fight if you start grappling a guy all his mates are going to jump in and beat the shit out of you. One of the basic rules of fighting "never go on the floor" once you do that your guard is down. Tae-kwon-do if done righ is more than enough to beat people in mma who agrees?
@9SoulFire9 In a real life situation maybe...but if you're in an MMA match with MMA rules and get taken to the ground with not even just a little knowledge of at least how to get to your feet properly or get out of guards from the ground then you are screwed.
@9SoulFire9 Taekwondo practitioners don't hold their GUARD protecting their head - at least not in WTF taekwondo. But ITF Is nearly the same thing as kickboxing so there is not that much difference. And its also important that you know how to fight on the ground, because most of the fights end up on the ground. When all of his mates come after you, you get knock down on the floor... Where are you then if you don't know a think about defense on the floor?? Combination of ITF and BJJ is better.
@9SoulFire9 Basic rules of fighting my ass. There are no rules of fighting. How about "never turn your back on an opponent"? If there's 3 of them circling you one of them is gonna see your back at some point. So there are always those situations where you do go to the ground, and you do turn your back.A good fighter must know what to do in every situation.
@9SoulFire9 pure TKD fighters have not fared well in MMA. If pure TKD masters could beat MMA fighters in MMA, they´d be going into MMA and making some big money there. This "never go to the ground in a streetfight" is really silly. First of all, having grappling skills makes you far less likely to be taken to the ground in a real fight. Second, you are not always outnumbered in real fights. Sometimes it´s one on one or you have more friends around than the other person.
@9SoulFire9 actually it done you can get examples from cung le who is from vietnam there is no WTF taekwondo there but ITF and Zelg Galesic from Croatia, there are another examples like Juraz.the thing is to search a little more, and not eat all that youtube shows
@9SoulFire9 Just as misguided it is for people to critique TKD sport practitioners for fighting with their hands down, its also misguided to critique mma practitioners for fighting on the ground. At the highest levels of sport both worlds take advantage of the protection offered to them by their respective sets of rules. Its not a good or bad thing its just how the game is played. In real life its not the style but the practitioner and the correct mind set of peace and prevention that prevails
@9SoulFire9 Because people are filled with World tkd bullshit where all they do is little contact with feet. And they have horrible balance. I can't bare to watch any world taekwondo federation fights. itf is the real deal.
@sanmiguelangel2010 I have sparred hong, and he is no joke. The guy hits really hard with almost no telegraphing. If you don't believe me, ask the dude with the broken nose.
tkd itf is light con in train they lern how to control the kicks and punches but sometimes that isnt enafe to avoid a k.o. or k.d. about wtf now this electronic system isnt it funny
Nice reverse hook kick.
MrStoneClark 1 month ago
Why the kickboxer has a diagonal stand? Why he dont stand up like in thai-like kickboxing style? What kind of kickboxing is that? very vulnerable to low kicks :/
Fun to watch anyway :)
toastyzone 2 months ago
why do they stop the fight every 5 seconds?
pirannaofdoom202 2 months ago
the kick boxers stance is wrong - he is going one sided
ZachFire101 3 months ago
Itf wins :D
GREGSHEEHAN101 5 months ago
itf is the real face of TaeKwonDo .... more rough tough and deadly weapon.... dont mess up with itf guys...
Rikthful 5 months ago 5
people people it dont mater what martshal arts it is its who trains you.
HOWZZ3 5 months ago
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Do u guys even know the difference between WTF and ITF? -_- Stop commenting something based on all ur imagination . wtf and itf are totally different in their power, speed, and techniqs. No country other than korea use ITF tae kwon do -_- north korea still has its original itf. Just close ur mouth if u guys dont know -_-
Jay5778 6 months ago
@minase0906 I'm a TKD black belt, and I disargee with you, mostly because few TKD practicioners are trained in no holds barred fighting. The tools are there if you want to use them, but the problem is that TKD contests, especially Olympic ones are too rigid in their scoring system. It really causes many TKD people to only practice those kicks that will help them in competition. However, fighters like Anderson Silva use TKD in MMA, but know how to use the hands, and grappling holds as well.
supergnc 6 months ago
muy bueno
carrascoccb 7 months ago
itf tkd is one of the best styles there is dont believe me? search itf tkd vs (any style u wanna see) itf kicks the shit out of other styles
osmarchito 7 months ago
man who gives a shit which style works better on the streets. unless you're soem ufc/strikforce champion, you are NOT going to be beating up 4 other dudes with your so called "superior" martial art. When you are on streets, that is where your cardio is put to the test if you see multiple guys/
fifaplayer10 7 months ago
I agree with minase0906, Taekwondo is one of the most practical martial arts out there. I do taekwondo too and i win in MMA's. So taekwondo is not a noob sport.
SantinoGuitarPlayer 7 months ago
@SantinoGuitarPlayer Im inclined to agree. Ive won a couple of Boxing Sparring Bouts with ITF TKD.
Caeviens 7 months ago
kickboxer is not even kicking...
iBogaStylez 8 months ago
Where is the knockout??
eliasmde4ever 9 months ago
well check it, a sport is a sport, mma has rules, and tkd has rules in their match, but when it comes down to using it, most people want to defend themselves against two or more people, so grappling or goin on the floor won't do the work, TKD ,which is mostly offensive, kicks ass, it can defend you against two or more people. i agree with 9SoulFire9
francys1426 9 months ago
@francys1426
What you need in fights against two or three ppl in the streets is first high tolerance of pain. And that you can only obtain due full contact sparring and competition. Semi Contact wont help you in that manner. And what you also need is stamina and high punching power. In the streets defending against two or three ppl your feet are not gonna help you unless you want to hurt yourselfe. But I never would recommend someone a sports so he can fight thugs in the streets
miro1985 9 months ago
Where is the knockout? Anyhow, although I practice TKD myself, in this case the TKD guy wasn't that great. He fell on his ass would have been dead meat in the street scenario. So I'm not sure I'd agree with the judge's decision here.
parahumanoid 11 months ago
@parahumanoid so u think because he fell over once he automatically loses the fight ?? well even if u do tkd u clearly nvr compete if u think thats true lol
176Aido 10 months ago
@176Aido
I think exactly what I said, nothing more: falling is near equal to a loss in an aggressive street fight scenario. The other guy, although got his nose crunched, stayed solid on his two feet that that alone can go a very long way. Do me a favor, don't consider anything "clear" about me. You don't even know me, let alone how many and what kind of situations I went trough. Ever been in a knife fight? Errors (such as falling) are expensive when push comes to shove.
parahumanoid 10 months ago
@parahumanoid I think street fights are very different to what you go through in a ring - you have rules etc. and you can afford to be creative in your combinations (which implies falling). When in a tight situation where you defend urself, you have to compromise the opponent into a state where he cannot retaliate....the two are inseperable I get it. I am just saying that I disagree with your conclusion that you draw from a fall in a fight with rules
Romis008 10 months ago
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y cual es el ko??????? que pelea mas horrible
frannckopz 11 months ago
y cual es el ko??????? que pelea mas orrible
frannckopz 11 months ago
@frannckopz fue ko tenico, viste que al peleador de kick le empeso a sangrar là nariz por eso, pero un peleador de kick que usara bien las piernas o de MT mata a uno de TK
xmiguelox 11 months ago
@frannckopz f ue ko tenico, viste que al peleador de kick le empeso a sangrar là nariz?? por eso, pero un peleador de kick que usara bien las piernas o de MT mata a uno de TK
xmiguelox 11 months ago
nice fight! i <3 itf
dariio20 11 months ago
booorrring...
jtkdspin 1 year ago
Why does it say knockout in the title ?
JordyBT 1 year ago
there is no knockout...
percyvega 1 year ago 14
@percyvega Read the description.. TKO
dontblinkTV 6 months ago
@dontblinkTV Read the title :P
BamsemomsTKD 6 months ago
TKD will obviously win in a mat but in a ring like in K-1 they get battered by kickboxers! Search kickboxing vs taekwondo and TKD get battered
amdkickboxer 1 year ago
@amdkickboxer
It is NOT the martial art that sucks. I don`t care if its Muay thai, kick boxing, Kung fu, Karate, MMA. Its they person who is just not a good fighter.
Comparing martial art styles is dumb anyway :P
aysasa91 1 year ago
Hahaha stupid haters that hates TKD and little later when watching movies and surfing, I see movies where TKD owns... stupid people with no experience that just comes to hate seriously make youtube SUCK
uniquesolo96 1 year ago
simonJoel: POr que no te vas a lavar el orto? osea, cada uno en su arte marcial y listo, yo no opino si las demas son mierda o que , asi que SHHHH, FUCK OFF!
teakwondoNico 1 year ago
where is the kick boxing??
cikicrocus 1 year ago
where the knockout?
XxThaFreaKxX 1 year ago
TKD ITF is the shit
simonJoel 1 year ago
tkd sucks
pigballs911 1 year ago
@pigballs911 how u know it sucks? u tried it?
kevinh59 1 year ago
@kevinh59 yea, it sucks, just watch UFC, at first, everyone came with all sorts of weird and exotic backrounds, but then the numbers of martial arts dwindled down to kickboxing, muay thai, bjj, and other sorts, other martial arts such as kung fu and tkd was helplessly destroyed
pigballs911 1 year ago
@pigballs911 of course it sucks because you are suck at it.
Kinqxx123 1 year ago
@Kinqxx123 i dont take it lmao, its a waste of money and time
pigballs911 1 year ago
@pigballs911
yes you`re right. But manly because UFC consist 80% of the time on groundfight. Which is not practiced in TKD or kung fu very much
aysasa91 1 year ago
@aysasa91 yea, their is striking and groundwork in ufc, but why do people take muay thai/kickboxing + juijitsu to get their combo? why not taekwondo + juijitsu? point proven.
pigballs911 1 year ago
@pigballs911 Point Prooven good sir but isn`t it more important to train in the Martial Art you are good at which makes you happy? I don`t train TKD,Muay Thai and normal boxing because i want to beat everybody up. I have fun by training. That is what counts. And btw. it is always the fighter who is responsible for his lost or his wins not the Martial art. In fact of course there is no TKD or Kung fu in UFC, when you see the heavy weight.You have to be incredible fast to score a hit with your leg
aysasa91 1 year ago
@aysasa91 when you want to be a professional at what you do, its not all about having fun
pigballs911 1 year ago
@pigballs911 sure, because when you have fun, you practice a lot, when you practice a lot you get better and better. Makes sense huh?
aysasa91 1 year ago
@aysasa91 there are actually plenty of people doing tkd or Kung fu in ufc, but there arent many who ONLY do one of it, all of them are trained in like 2-3 martial arts
SnowmanPen 1 year ago
@SnowmanPen there is nobody in the ufc that currently wastes their time with tkd or kung fu,there would be several who did it as kids before they stared to do mma,after that they found it was crap for real combat
billysue2 11 months ago
@billysue2 really? Hmmmm tell that to the south Viet Army back in 1968. Or tell that to MMA guys that train in TKD to learn the finess of kicks and straight punches. And dont tell me U know because u dont. And if ur a tuf guy, as Im sure u will say u r, please come visit my TKD MMA school here in Houston Texas. PM me and I will send u info so we can share techniques in thier fullest form.
jiggahippo 11 months ago
@jiggahippo if its a tkd mma school,thats not tkd at all.No mma elite fighter would even dream of bothering with tkd for striking,its a joke,tkd gave me incredible kicking ability because I was obsessed with training but I could rarely KO anyone with those kicks in thaiboxing when I rose through the ranks(at novice level yes),zelg galesic is the best mma fighter that came from elite tkd(world itf champ) but in mma he just kickboxes and grapples like everyone else.
billysue2 11 months ago
@billysue2 WHAT!! ITS MY SCHOOL!! And yes I teach TKD ITF and MMA as well, You cannot be this stupid! You know what you not worth the time. Have a good life.
jiggahippo 11 months ago
@jiggahippo you are teaching tkd and mma seperately then,not tkd mma.To coach mma youll need a strong background in grappling and striking or have seperate coaches for each,the head coach needs to understand all parts of fighting
billysue2 11 months ago
@billysue2 .......And I stand corrected, you are that stupid!
jiggahippo 11 months ago
@billysue2 ur rly not that smart. now i dont know what type of mma jiggahippo teaches, but K1 is a form of MMA, and that doesnt require grappling, jsut takedowns and defense against it. For example. also, head coach doesnt need to know all parts very well. as long as the guy that teaches it is competent enough, why would the ehadcoach need to know it?
veshkeat 11 months ago
@veshkeat let me educate there me lad,K1 is purely kickboxing there are allowed to clinch long enough for 1 or 2 knees thats it .Its not MMA by anyones definition.Also.the head coaches responsibilty is to cordinate students progress,how can he do that if he is ignorant of any aspect of fighting,he doesnt have to be an expert in all areas.
billysue2 11 months ago
@billysue2 Cung Le, i proved u wrong, now go and die
veshkeat 11 months ago
@veshkeat cung le hasnt trained in tkd for years prior to starting mma,he kickboxes,does sanshou and has wrestled in college.What cung le proves is that a gifted athlete with wrestling and lots of real fighting experience(sanshou not tkd) can use some kicks from tkd.Those same kicks are also in many other styles and would require no tkd training
billysue2 11 months ago
@billysue2 so basically a TKD fighter with grappling and lots of fighting experience can make TKD kicks effective. Therefore TKD can be effective.
ikcjjtt 10 months ago
@ikcjjtt if they had lot of kickboxing experience then yes but that wouldnt be tkd,tkd consists of wasting time of patterns,breaking ,1 step techs and self defense that doesnt work.Tkd doesnt even spar anything like they train,they spar light contact kickboxing
billysue2 10 months ago
@billysue2 what you are describing is ineffectiveTKD training methods for a full contact MMA fight. When i say TKD, im assuming effective training methods with it-such as training 7 days a week, sparring 3 hours of a 8 hour training day full contact- hands, elbows, knees, kicks, takedowns, ect. Other time spent on some catch wresling skills and rolling. forms and breaking can go into that. 1 step sparring is a little silly, and self defense is a moot point in MMA. Thats the TKD im talking about.
ikcjjtt 10 months ago
@ikcjjtt you definitely have never been a fighter nor spent any time training with them with those ideas.Nobody spars 3 hours a day,they dont even spar everyday and never all out with knees and elbows,most sparring is moderate conatct technical /tactical work.There are no effective knees ,elbows or takedowns in tkd anywhere,never have been(patterns dont count ).The tkd youre fantasising about doesnt exist,if it did it would just be plain MMA.
billysue2 10 months ago
@billysue2 um, historically, and even today some TKD schools do train in knees, elbows, and takedowns as well we punches in sparring. Its just not very popular or even common. It was much more common in the 40s and 50s and part of the 60s. TKD has never been 100% all kicks, thats a recent phenominom. Chung do kwan sparred with a similiar rule set to muay thai rule set. There is even a youtube video of chung do kwan sparring.
watch?v=waJZPfcyvXg&feature=related
proof for you.
ikcjjtt 10 months ago
@ikcjjtt virtually no tkd school does that and there was no tkd in the 40s or the first part of the 50s.Since gen choi established the name tkd in 1955 there has never been any knees,elbows or takedowns in the sparring.I started training in 1984 and ive never seen anything but a dose of shite in tkd.
billysue2 10 months ago
@billysue2 general choi did not create TKD, he just named it. TKD existed before that time, it was just under a different name-chung do kwan and mu duk kwan. the watering down started in the 1970s. So if u have never trained b4 that time, you wouldnt know. And i have seen a school in my city that acutally trained in knees, and chokes. A story of a air flight attendent defeated the plane from an unruly customer on board. She choked him out and it showed her practicing knees on pads.
ikcjjtt 10 months ago
@ikcjjtt There has never been any effectve grappling in any korean martial arts,except yudo which is just judo anyway so chung do kwan definitely didnt have any.
billysue2 10 months ago
@billysue2 hapkido is effective stand up grappling (small join manipulation).
ikcjjtt 10 months ago
@ikcjjtt small joint manipulation isnt effective at all v a trained opponent and because it doesnt do enough sparring its not very good at throws either and the groundwork is useless.So where then did the effective grappling in old tkd come from?The answer is that it wasnt effective.All that is irrelevant now as tkd for the last 30 yrs has not included any of those things you mention.
billysue2 10 months ago
@billysue2 hapkido also has strikes... and of course small joint manipulation doesnt work without proper training (sparring). Assuming you are sparring, i dont see what isnt effective about breaking fingers, toes, necks, nose, ect. I have had it done, it will tap you out quicker then any arm bar. And TKD started with all these techniques in its ealier carnations (chung do kwan). Only today is it ALL kicks.It wasnt like that in the past. Which is why forms look nothing like sparring.
ikcjjtt 10 months ago
@billysue2 dude u have no idea wat ur talking about. apparently its obvious that u dont know that much about hapkido. u think they dont have good throws or ineffective joint manipulations and useless ground work, boy u have quite a imagination going on there buddy. if u rlly and truly think that about hapkido and tkw then u mustve also think that boxing has weak punching moves, kick boxing has no idea wat there doing with their kicks and punches, jiu jitsu is ineffective at all and waste of time
1edefs3 9 months ago
@1edefs3 they are piis weak throwers compared to judoka and wrestlers/real grapplers and piss weak groundwork compared to bjj.Boxing ,kickboxing and bjj spend all their time training for free sparring,hapkido wastes their time on mostly unresisted grappling and forms just like jap jitsu.
scarred10 9 months ago
@billysue2 we have been over this before, TKD existed before general choi came along, it was just put under a different name. My grandmaster started training long before Choi was even known about.
ikcjjtt 10 months ago
@billysue2 kickboxing is TKD.
ikcjjtt 10 months ago
@pigballs911 kk.. ur oppinion ;)
kevinh59 10 months ago
@pigballs911 U do Martial Arts? U got respect?
eoinb57 1 year ago
taekwondo guy did leave a great kick i must tell ( i train tkd myself and i am terible in that kick :P) but he did do one mistake.. he must have the guard higer up..
that is wat i have learnd :)
kevinh59 1 year ago
stamina and agility makes you win forever..
WeI1994 1 year ago
just a kick can kill human.
TKD master vs 10 gangs = TKD rules. just it needs 10 kicks .
gundrag000 1 year ago
Does anyone know what the rules of the match were?
I'm taking this is obviously semi contact.
I am somewhat disappointed in the kick boxer. His guard was all over the place, you can't protect your head with your hands flapping about and there were too many missed opportunities for the kick boxer to have taken advantage over.
H0tkebab 1 year ago
The taekwondo guy has much less physique and therefore fights much better in comparison
euheide 1 year ago
dont be so prejudice guys.there's no matter what martial arts are u learn.it depends on yourself,u train more n u get more.that's the truth.there are no greatest martial arts in this world.what if the tournament used to be the muay thai rules?that tkd guy will also use his elbow n knee to attack.
bigbikeslover 1 year ago
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hey guys,you r so prejudice..actually,no matter what martial arts you learn,there are no greatest martial arts in this world.it depends on you're own self.if you trainibg more,u will get more.you said this tournament use tkd rules,so what happen if there are muay thai rules?that tkd guy will also use his elbow and knee to attack.martial arts are not for tournament dude,it's your life.the best fighter is when he can use his skills in many situation,especially in street fighting.
bigbikeslover 1 year ago
hey guys,you r so prejudice..actually,no matter what martial arts you learn,there are no greatest martial arts in this world.it depends on you're own self.if you trainibg more,u will get more.you said this tournament use tkd rules,so what happen if there are muay thai rules?that tkd guy will also use his elbow and knee to attack.martial arts are not for tournament dude,it's your life.the best fighter is when he can use his skills in many situation,especially in street fighting.
bigbikeslover 1 year ago
@minase0906 those are not taekwondo masters, they are mostly american taekwondo students which are mainly taught at mcdojos.
if you get real korean masters then that would be a proper fight between an mma fighter and taekwondo
chooseit2 1 year ago
Cool Video - Subbed
browian01 1 year ago
yeeeeeeee tkd rules wow i bet his nose is broken noone can stop the power of tkd
superdjkking 1 year ago
i thaink that tkd is the best martial art
bhavish42 1 year ago
@minase0906 ok my friend you have seen alot of fights right? but have you ever been in a situation were you had to fight for your life? trust me the last thing you want is to go on the ground were there could be Broken glass. An experinced TKD student should be able to stop there opponent in one punch or kick. And i did not say the "only way" to beat TKD is on the ground. It depends on the fighter and his experince but TKD is more than enough for MMA
9SoulFire9 1 year ago
@minase0906 Haha nope. I actually saw a video before this where TKD owned MMA. If you want to see, PM me, and I will show you.
Supar96Kwon 1 year ago
@Supar96Kwon you can PM it to me, I´d like to see it. But why don´t you just post the link to it here? You can´t post whole links, but just post the youtube ID of the video.
rokkvi1 8 months ago
@minase0906 thats not what i meant
a tkd can know some takedown defence and how to box worth a shit and still just be a tkd fighter
a judo, aikido or JJ fighter that has good striking is still just a judo, aikido or JJ fighter
its the JKD concept not like the ufc style mma concept
joelaka3pac123 1 year ago
Excellent stuff!!!
Donal1975 1 year ago
@minase0906 if he incorporates good boxing skill with it with and keeps his hands up with lil ground the speed in his kicks especially side kicks will give him the advantage
just depends on how they use it
all striking styles should have some kind of ground defence anyways or technique
just like how u will never find a judo, jiu jitsu or aikido fighter without some striking technique
joelaka3pac123 1 year ago
@minase0906 why could Tae-kwon-do not win in MMA? its one of the most practical martial arts out there. Sorry but in a street fight if you start grappling a guy all his mates are going to jump in and beat the shit out of you. One of the basic rules of fighting "never go on the floor" once you do that your guard is down. Tae-kwon-do if done righ is more than enough to beat people in mma who agrees?
9SoulFire9 1 year ago 26
@9SoulFire9 In a real life situation maybe...but if you're in an MMA match with MMA rules and get taken to the ground with not even just a little knowledge of at least how to get to your feet properly or get out of guards from the ground then you are screwed.
SOCOMSoldier01 9 months ago
@9SoulFire9 i copletely agree with you
Tovash 9 months ago
@9SoulFire9 Taekwondo practitioners don't hold their GUARD protecting their head - at least not in WTF taekwondo. But ITF Is nearly the same thing as kickboxing so there is not that much difference. And its also important that you know how to fight on the ground, because most of the fights end up on the ground. When all of his mates come after you, you get knock down on the floor... Where are you then if you don't know a think about defense on the floor?? Combination of ITF and BJJ is better.
JohnDoeOG 9 months ago
@9SoulFire9 Basic rules of fighting my ass. There are no rules of fighting. How about "never turn your back on an opponent"? If there's 3 of them circling you one of them is gonna see your back at some point. So there are always those situations where you do go to the ground, and you do turn your back.A good fighter must know what to do in every situation.
mrkiky 9 months ago
@9SoulFire9 pure TKD fighters have not fared well in MMA. If pure TKD masters could beat MMA fighters in MMA, they´d be going into MMA and making some big money there. This "never go to the ground in a streetfight" is really silly. First of all, having grappling skills makes you far less likely to be taken to the ground in a real fight. Second, you are not always outnumbered in real fights. Sometimes it´s one on one or you have more friends around than the other person.
rokkvi1 8 months ago
@9SoulFire9 actually it done you can get examples from cung le who is from vietnam there is no WTF taekwondo there but ITF and Zelg Galesic from Croatia, there are another examples like Juraz.the thing is to search a little more, and not eat all that youtube shows
Zeighent 6 months ago
@9SoulFire9 definatly agree with you
Tovash 6 months ago
@9SoulFire9 Just as misguided it is for people to critique TKD sport practitioners for fighting with their hands down, its also misguided to critique mma practitioners for fighting on the ground. At the highest levels of sport both worlds take advantage of the protection offered to them by their respective sets of rules. Its not a good or bad thing its just how the game is played. In real life its not the style but the practitioner and the correct mind set of peace and prevention that prevails
toru315 6 months ago 4
@9SoulFire9 Because people are filled with World tkd bullshit where all they do is little contact with feet. And they have horrible balance. I can't bare to watch any world taekwondo federation fights. itf is the real deal.
Terran156 5 months ago
That Taekwondo dude pwnz! Good timing,Good kicks,very humble...A good Taekwondo practitioner... This is what Taekwondo is all about.
ymk19 1 year ago
@minase0906 A fighter that is not as good as his opponent cannot win in MMA.
LucPFT 1 year ago
haha! thats why dont mess with the tae kwon do :D
Punished91 1 year ago
taekwondo for ever !!!!!!
toxikogamer 1 year ago
faggoty tae kwon do
areamkarim 1 year ago
@areamkarim more like tae queer do
sanmiguelangel2010 1 year ago
@sanmiguelangel2010 I have sparred hong, and he is no joke. The guy hits really hard with almost no telegraphing. If you don't believe me, ask the dude with the broken nose.
lukeytron 1 year ago
@lukeytron ok idc dude
sanmiguelangel2010 1 year ago
@sanmiguelangel2010 r u serios thats the best you can come up wit ?
alboito9595 1 year ago
@alboito9595 wow u have no life u get in a oversation dat dont involve u wow ur koo home boi
sanmiguelangel2010 1 year ago
ITF TKD owns!!
masamune702 1 year ago 2
awesome
HarstyleHardcore 1 year ago 2
Gotta love straight hook kicks to the face. ITF style TKD for the win :D
MilitantBlackGuy1 1 year ago
@iceywolf1 there's no brown belt in itf taekwon-do you idiot...
7W33K 1 year ago
@7W33K there is brownbelt you dumbutt =_____=;;;
Jay5778 1 year ago
@Jay5778 LOL! I don't know what ITF TKD you're doing dude, but there aint no brown belt! noob
7W33K 1 year ago
@7W33K It depends on each school .
ILSATS 1 year ago
nice but wow itf dont evan where hogus 'body guards' :o i do wtf and ima blue belt
runescapepureftl 2 years ago
tkd itf is light con in train they lern how to control the kicks and punches but sometimes that isnt enafe to avoid a k.o. or k.d. about wtf now this electronic system isnt it funny
piccolom86 2 years ago
itf dont use body pads very often im a h.brown belt in itf taekwondo and i spar all the time u get hit it hurts but it conditions u well
iceywolf1 1 year ago
tkd guy loves to do sidekicks
peanutsandchocolates 2 years ago
Very nice fight! Both fighters are good
Taekwondoitf123 2 years ago
good side kick there. a little bit closer and it wudv been lights out for the kickboxer
chunkysupreme 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
where is the "Awesome" technical knockout?
srMiron 2 years ago
watch?v=TZVgxV2eYnM
007x2x2 2 years ago
Good work by both fighters, keep up the hard training work guys
Guenton 2 years ago 3
Taekwondo rules
wiseboy95 2 years ago 50
not a knockout..but this is awesome..good man hong ;)
palkup3 2 years ago 3
great kick.... he must have left with a broken nose! LOL
WindmillionRecords 2 years ago 16