What your liberal professor didn't tell you about Islam and Jihad (12 of 12)

[moti4love]

SINCE ALLAH IS ONLY THE BS OF MUHAMAD THAT SELL THEM AS IN THE NAME OF THE TRUE GOD.

SO ALLAH CAN NOT BE THE SAME GOD OF THE JEWS.

CUZ GOD OF THE JEWS IS NOT THE BULLSHIT OF MUHAMAD.

[herzog380]

@edgemasterrobin are you completely retarded? Do you have absolutely NO CLUE about the concept of subjective and objective morality?

Give me an ample and DOCUMENTED definition of subjective vs objective morality. How can anyone argue with you fanatic atheist morons when you don't even understand the most basic concepts within logic and philosophy?

[herzog380]

@edgemasterrobin no, you idiot. It's called general statements. Have you ever read scientific papers. Example men are taller than women. General statement. In contrast to ALL men are taller than women.

Please spare me for more of your ignorant stupidity and retarded undocumented claims. Get some knowledge of what you are talking about and then come back.

What is it with you fanatic atheists and ignorance combined with stupidity?

[TeachSecularHumanism]

@herzog380 (edgemasterrobin here) Have you heard of ad hominem attacks? I'd have thought that you with your amazing logic and knowledge of philosophy would know what they are.

"Men are taller than women." is an absolute statement unless you put in some kind of qualifier like "generally". If I say "5 is bigger than 4." that doesn't mean 5 is generally bigger than 4 does it?

[herzog380]

@TeachSecularHumanism no it is a GENERAL statement. True and valid. ALL men are taller than women is an absolute statement.

I see you really don't understand this. You believe the rules of statements within empirical sciences Mathematics are the same? How retarded are you? So, why don't we talk about YOUR amazing knowledge logic and philosophy?

[herzog380]

.... AND Mathematics, that is.

[TeachSecularHumanism]

@herzog380 I think you mean my amazing knowledge of knowledge, logic and philosophy. Please try and use the correct grammar, I realise you're angry because you repeatedly get proved wrong but let's get these things right.

Yes, the same rules apply to all statements no matter what field.

My philosophy is to admit when I'm wrong, that's obviously not yours.

[herzog380]

@TeachSecularHumanism I am not angry, but I write far too fast, as I don't want to waste too much time on this.

NO, the rules regarding statements are completely different. A mathematical statement is per definition either 100% true or false based on mathematical laws. An empirical statement can never be 100% since the reality is never observed directly and a 100% true empirical statement would require all knowledge in the universe.

[TeachSecularHumanism]

@herzog380 Why are they different? I'm talking about the laws of the English language. Do we first have to analyse what kind of statement we are making before we make it? No, don't be ridiculous. Just admit you're wrong for once, you can do it!

Otherwise can you find any other source to back up why what you're saying is true?

[herzog380]

@TeachSecularHumanism I see, completely clueless regarding science and math. Waste of time.

[TeachSecularHumanism]

@herzog380 Do you want to compare science and maths qualifications? Up until University I was a straight A student in Maths and Sciences, I also have a degree in Chemical Engineering and your qualifications are...?

[herzog380]

@TeachSecularHumanism ....much better than yours. Obviously.

[herzog380]

@TeachSecularHumanism by the way. What's your IQ?

[TeachSecularHumanism]

@herzog380 132 and that was done by a professional psychologist, not online. I love how you just say your qualifications are better but don't actually say them, it speaks volumes. Go away troll.

[herzog380]

@TeachSecularHumanism just look at you own stupid, unscientific statements. Do you REALLY believe you have better credentials than I have? How many research papers have YOU published? Fool.

132 is not very much, is it?

[TeachSecularHumanism]

@herzog380 I've not published any, I really doubt you have either, if you have any you can feel free to send me a link to them. I could do with a laugh.

132 is in the top 2% of a population...

[herzog380]

@TeachSecularHumanism you are an unintelligent looser. You try to weazel yourself out of your own unability to answer questions and stupid remarks, by trying to get personal information about me. What a waste "debating" with an uneducated ignorant moron like you. I am absolutely through with you, low-iq wannabe academic.

[herzog380]

@TeachSecularHumanism you forgot to give me the definition (with documentation) regarding subjective/objective morality.

[TeachSecularHumanism]

@herzog380 It'll take a little while for me to find a really good definition from a good source but of course you realise that one's views require lots of research and not just polemics, right?

[herzog380]

@TeachSecularHumanism objective/subjective morality is rather simple. 

[TeachSecularHumanism]

@herzog380 You asked for documentation, that requires effort and lots of reading, I think this is fairly good though:

h t t p : / / plato . stanford . e d u / entries / morality - definition /

With descriptive morality being subjective and normative morality being objective. This is a fairly good source and explains both clearly.

[herzog380]

@TeachSecularHumanism you are not even able to give me the definition? How can you debate anything you are not able to define? What's wrong with you fanatic atheists?

[TeachSecularHumanism]

@herzog380 I've provided a source with definitions as you requested, if you want to provide the definition then feel free to do so but you can't accuse me of not providing it as the evidence is in this thread. So either go along with it, cough up or shut up.

[herzog380]

@TeachSecularHumanism Did you post the definition or not? If you didn't, - why not.

[FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN]

this was a very well done study...

thanks for sharing!

[FLIPWORLDUPSIDEDOWN]

ISLAM = International Society of Liars and Murderers

[herzog380]

Oh my God, I am so tired of your stupidity. Of course I have 'time' you idiot. But do I have time to waste on really unintelligent people like you? Not able to understand even the most basic argumens and concepts?

So you want to base your moral system on philosophy, idiot, is that it? Well, what happens if the majority, like in Germany adhere to a very evil philosophy oppressingt the minority and killing them, then what?

[herzog380]

Since you have no moral absolutes within atheism and you have subjective and not objective moral standars you have NO absolute guarantees and protection of basic human rights. The Bible and teaching of Jesus Christ is FULL of God given rights. Is that clear enough for you, or are you going to continue to spew you ususal retarded inchorent pseudo intellectual nonsense?

[herzog380]

Your understanding of Christianity is appalling. I don't have time or will to try to educate you.

Sorry, no time to give you private lessons.

No, I gave my qualifiers, IF I spoke with God etc etc. Go back to my comment and stop misquoting me.

What if you don't agree, then what. It's just rubbish, some fluffy words used by ANY dictatorship.

Sorry again, you don't want to discuss, just recycle your lies and retarded misconceptions endlessly.

Bye.

[herzog380]

No, it does NOT imply all. You don't understand what a general statement is. This is basic knowledge.

I do.

So HOW shall you pick the philosophy that you will base your atheist uthopia on and WHO shall do the picking? This is why you atheits ALWAYS have created hell holes when you have been in full power. Somehow you are so stupid that you are unable to see your own stupidity. I am afraid I am wasting my time here.

[herzog380]

Yeah, really, WHERE did Jesus say we should follow the Old and not New covenant.

How on Earth did Empathy and reason give us the holocaust - sorry I believe you are too retarded to understand.

I NEVER said I will kill for God. See my qualifiers. You are a dishonest liar.

Your actions justified BY WHAT OR WHOM? If you say justified by yourself, that's no justification. That's like saying you will only kill, torture etc when you believe it's OK.

[herzog380]

Did I say ALL? No, straw man fallacy again. Don't you ever get tired of your own stupidity and waste of time?

Philosopy, what a joke. So you will base your morality on Nietzsche? Do you have ANY clue what you are talking about at all? You sound retarded.

[herzog380]

I am not a Jew. Are you really so ignorant that you don't know the difference between the Old and the New Covenant.

Empathy and reason gave us Holocaust. Science has told us that children from a dysfunctional family most likely will end up unhappy and a burden to society. Clearly both empaty and reason tell you that these children must be killed, and maybe they parents, to get rid of this kind of misery in society.

If I saw God and talked to God and knew that He was a good God cont

[herzog380]

with a reasoning much higher than my own, as Abraham did, sure I would.

You would not? In your pompous atheistic retarded grandious self image you would say that according to YOUR reasoning God was wrong. That's per denition stupid because God per definition has unlimited knowledge, and you don't.

[herzog380]

Well, then you have absolutely no explanation you atheists have not been able to produce something remotely like a civilization.

In a real atheist community, completely void of Judoe-Christian cultural and moral heriage would be a hell hole. You definitely would not like to live there. The new alfa lion will kill all the offspring of the former alfa lion. It's the only logical thing for the selfish genes to do. cont.

[herzog380]

Christianity forbids killing children under any circumstance. Atheism says if someone thinks it's OK to kill, rape, steal or torture, why not do it? There is absolutely no God to tell you otherwise. That be a great society. Would it not, atheist?

[herzog380]

Sorry about the missing words etc. I am writing this stuff at full speed in between other writing.

[herzog380]

I didn't say it does, that's my whole point. You said atheism has never been able to produce a civilization due to 'oppression'. I pointed out that claim was wrong. A civilization can emerge despite oppression. So clearly the cause must be found elsewhere. I gave you my explanation. Your it 'can' comment make no sense.

OK, if you HAD to choose. Then what? A Christian semi-paradise (private ownership is sanctioned by God, so communism is evil) or your beloved atheist/communist hell hole?

[herzog380]

I already explained why you never could create a healthy and happy society. Oppression has nothing to do with it.

As I pointed out, a Civilization can emerge despite fierce oppression, as Christendom clearly proves.

So, where would YOU live? In a communist state based on Christianity or some of the other communist states based on atheism? Cambodia maybe? On the killing fields?

[herzog380]

I have only pointed to communist states because they are the only examples we have of atheists being in full power. If I were in a 100 % Christian based communist state I could with Bible in hand say that no one could kill my wife, rape my daughter, not feed me or cloth me if I were poor. Not torture me. Well, atheism per se gives me NO rights. Instead atheism in itself can't even say that rape, murder and torture are evil. That's why you were NEVER able to create a civilization, only hell holes

[herzog380]

1. No. And I never made that claim and did not imply it.

2. Theses states were run by atheists, brainwashed kids to be atheists, prosecuted, killed, raped, tortured priests and other religious people. Consequently you were finally free from oppression from religion. Surely these states must then be paradise for an atheist. Christians would be happy to live in a communist state 100% based on Christianity. I guess that would be a very nice place. (cont)

[herzog380]

But since these communist states were based on atheism, they were hellholes. No, I don't think atheism = communism, I believe atheism = evil and retarded society.

[herzog380]

3. You CAN'T base objective morality on atheism PER SE. Yes, your oppression whining is a sad excuse for NEVER in the recorded history of mankind being able to establish something that even remotely looks like a civilization. As I already told you, Christians could do it, despite death and torture, so why not you atheists? Either because you all are cowards or you can't use atheism as a foundatio for a civilization.

[herzog380]

Oh God, what is it with you stupid atheist and your urge to waste everyones time?

OK, moron.

1. This stupid comment of yours is NOT just a question but a claim in a form of a rhetorical question - So are all Atheists communists now?

2. Atheists killed, tortured and raped more than 100 million innocent people within less than 100 years. You will find death camps in the following atheist paradises 'free from oppression of religion' former USSR, China, Cambodia, North-Korea etc.

[herzog380]

3. Atheism and it's dismissal of objective morality is clearly not a sustainable ground to build a civilization. That's the lesson from history. Your sad excuse that atheists have been oppressed is retarded. Christians were oppressed and put to death the first century in the Roman Empire, and still were able to create the greatest civilization the world has ever seen. Not so with atheists.

[herzog380]

It is obvious that you can not and will not answer the questions. I will not waste my time on atheists in denial. Bye.

[herzog380]

No, I did certainly NOT imply ALL. Straw man fallacy.

I refer to claims made by prominent atheist retards like, Dawkins, Hitchens et al.

Every time you atheists get full power over a nation, you start your usual death camps. This is systematic.

EVERY civilization has been oppressed some way or anther, from start to end. So your 'explanation' why you atheist have NEVER been able to create anything remotely close to a civilization is not valid. Try again.

[herzog380]

Did I say all atheists are communists? Do you at all UNDERSTAND LOGIC?

In all these places I mentioned you are/were free from 'oppression' of religion, and consequently, according to your usual retarded atheist claims, there should be a free thinkers paradise. Some of you idiots even claim that without religion there would be no war, no injustice and full liberty. You death loving atheists have NEVER created a civilization. Care to explain WHY?

[newtype64]

If you use this logic then Jews don't believe in the same God as Christians either. That video makes no logical sence.

[buckpowerLA]

My "liberal professors" taught me that all religion is thoughtless nonsense that only serves to empower those who wish to commit violence against those who are different.

That goes for Islam, Christianity, etc... Christianity and Islam are about the same in terms of stupidity, intolerance, and just plain backwards ass old school uninformed thinking. Religion is bullshit.

[herzog380]

So, how many 100s of millions of innocent people did you fanatic atheist assholes kill within the last 100 years?

Stupidity, intolerance and uninformed thinking is exactly what you find in your atheist paradises Soviet Union, China, North Korea, Vietnam and Cambodia etc.

Your hateful retarded comment show everyone how dangerous it is when you evil atheist bigots get some power.

[urGermanfriend]

Very interesting video about Islam religion, but to immediately point out that Christianity is much better simply sucks. They should have stayed neutral, like they said they would, but they didn't.

[ibtasam8219]

well good luck in your grave cuz nothing is gong to help you there

may ALLAH guide you ameen!!!

[Prophettessa]

Great series. The truth about islam cannot be hidden - muslims themselves will see to that. Unfortunately, it will be ugly, so we must reach out to muslims with the truth about their ideology and that it isn't the religion of peace, intellect, truth or reason.

[excessID]

hmmmmm..

well what can i say here is just a poor effort.. john & Amer .. really you have to put more more effort here.. doesn't looking convincing at all..

By looking the videos, it is very obvious that which agends you are woking on.. But come on, make some effort.. Amir.. his comments, his face expressions, he is looking like ,he is not still satisfied with Christianity. and John Please ,, there are some other ways to make money. Religion is a bit personal.