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  • Bottom line: You can't trust the big pharma, they want profit and don't give too hoots if your child gets autism from a vaccine. In fact they are immune from lawsuits or liability because of the The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. Vaccines contain poisonous ingredients that are neurotoxins like mercury and other toxins. No one will protect you or your child's health besides you, the EPA and FDA are corrupt and have big pharma board members in management. You're now on your own.

  • To the ones that are saying there is NO link between the vaccines and autism, saying that just proves you are not a credible source, your disinformation is structurally flawed.

  • I don't want to get in a debate with the person down there, but the government told us that fluoride was safe too. As a matter of fact it is put in our water to combat dental health issues, but in reality. Fluoride thins teeth enamel, weakens bones and negatively affects organs. I for one will not accept that at face value, just because the government is saying it's "safe."

  • Thermosil is SAFE!. People please do some research, Thermosil contains mercury, yes but its such a minute amount, the mercury in your food has way more, which you consume on a daily basis. The mercury in the vaccines is called, ethyl mercury, not methyl mercury. There is a difference, the former, gets excreted from the body quickly, preventing any neurological disorders.

  • @OhmgrownCron Eating food with mercury in it and injecting mercury into newborn has difference consequences!!!

  • Advances in sanitation, hygiene, and the eventual and natural declination of opportunistic diseases are the primary reasons behind increases in life expectancy and less diseased...not vaccination. In fact, the latest cases of polio were caused by the vaccine.

  • THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING IT MORON.some fucking lawyer that guy is.

    What an asshole.Right on Kennedy.

  • like H1N1 flu jab

    all bullshit to make money for the stealing murdering pharma's

    dont believe me?

    the U.N. has just come out and said they lied thri their teeth

    research this before replying i get tired of stupid ignorant retarded comment

  • @lethal1960 Well, there was a NEJM article about a study in China that monitored adverse effects from nearly 100 million doses of the flu vaccine. It's safe. Lower rates of Guillain Barre than background. Here is the article: Safety of influenza A vaccine in postmarketing surveillance in China, NEJM, 2011.

  • wwwdotVaccinationCouncildotorg­

  • New Article today, from the BMJ, on "dr" wakefield: "Is it possible that he was wrong, but not dishonest: that he was so incompetent that he was unable to fairly describe the project, or to report even one of the 12 children’s cases accurately? No. A great deal of thought and effort must have gone into drafting the paper to achieve the results he wanted: the discrepancies all led in one direction; misreporting was gross. "

  • I like this presenter, feels so refreshing to see a friendly and reasonable host after watching a whole bunch of Fox News videos.

  • @NathanielEverist my question is why are you watching fox in the first place?

  • Splenda definitely needs to be investigated. Too many products on shelf containing it in place of corn syrup. Not that corn syrup is good, but at least it's natural.Water quality is definitely a widespread problem.Sperm counts are known to be down in our county-is it the water, they say? Of course it's the damn water!Is it safer to buy bottled water? who knows! Our children are guinea pigs to the government, and so are we.Thanks for the post.

  • “[The drug industry has a] worse record of international bribery and corruption than any other industry, a history of fraud in the safety testing of drugs, and a disturbing record of criminal

  • negligence in the usage of drugs. Data fabrication is so widespread that it is called ‘making’ in the Japanese pharmaceutical industry ‘graphiting’ or ‘dry labelling’ in the United States.”Dr. John Braithwaite, PhD, Professor, Law Program&Chair, Regulatory Institutions Network Australia

    (one of the worlds leading criminologists)

  • Try googling this "seed magazine real cause autism" for an explanation of why people don't trust the science on autism.

  • I'm still believe that the problem is the food...USA is known by his bad habits...and with the dna changes in the food market...more pollution, sedentary way of life, everything influences on the sperm and egg creation..even X-ray can change some cellular matters, microwaves, radiography .."but the guilt is the vacine".. "American", what kind of study is that one? They never taught about the implications of "blocking vaccines"?

    ps: the journalist sucks, speaks more than the gest!

  • "CSL shares catch $2.4bn chill over flu vaccine fears"

    CSL shares plunged yesterday amid ongoing suspicion that this season's influenza vaccination is potentially dangerous for children and could be linked to hundreds of adverse reactions nationwide"

    theaustralian . com . au/business/csl-shares-catch-2­.4bn-chill-over-flu-vaccine-fe­a ­rs/story-e6frg8zx-12258590585­1 ­7

  • "I am a nurse who is exposing the Illuminati's use of modern medicine to drug, poison and control millions in their pursuit of a New World Order."

    Bahahahahaahahahahahahahahahah­a

  • Thimerosal doesn't cause autism. Even if you distrust the literally dozens of studies showing absolutely no link, every country that has removed it from the childhood vaccines has failed to see a corresponding drop in autism rates. There hasn't been so much as a blip.

  • Yes vaccines are so safe and healthy to the human race, that the pharmaceutical companies that peddle them lobby to our elected representatives to pass legislation preventing them from being held liable for any adverse reactions or deaths caused by their product...You would think that the safety and effectiveness for these shots would speak for itself but no they are forced onto the public and will not be held accountable for any negative side effects. Think about it. Mercury is poison PERIOD!

  • Phew, lawyers hosting news shows... that's a conflict of interest right there! Lawyers participating in the human race - also a conflict of interest!

  • It is right here obvious and all we can do is scream at the umpire

    "What are You blind?" That must be why everyone repeats themselves. It is madness that we would poison others. It is so terrible it seems absurd. Why does everyone see but not stop. Bystanders, M.Y.O.B. Instead of calling them evil, we have to let them know they have been misled. Isn't it funny that when someone finally calls their game they get called "whistle blower" -that's a referee, an umpire, someone calling the game.

  • "Mercury and autism: accelerating evidence?" PubMed

    In vitro, mercury and thimerosal in levels found several days after vaccination inhibit methionine synthetase (MS) by 50%. Normal function of MS is crucial in biochemical steps necessary for brain development, attention and production of glutathione, an important antioxidative and detoxifying agent.

    ---continued-----

  • Repetitive doses of thimerosal leads to neurobehavioral deteriorations in autoimmune susceptible mice, increased oxidative stress and decreased intracellular levels of glutathione in vitro. Subsequently, autistic children have significantly decreased level of reduced glutathione. Promising treatments of autism involve detoxification of mercury, and supplementation of deficient metabolites.

    h t t p :/ / w w w . n c b i . n i h . g o v / p u b m e d / 1 6 2 6 4 4 1 2

  • AFLURIA & Fluzone

    This dose of .5 mL of swine flu vaccine contains 24.5 micrograms of mercury.. According to the EPA guidelines, in order for this amount of mercury to be safe, the individual getting the vaccine would need to weigh 539 pounds.Children 3yrs - 9 yrs.--2 doses, 4 wks apart. Total 50 mcg.

    A six month old infant's .25 mL dose would then contain 12.5 micrograms of mercury, which is a safe dose for someone weighing 275 pounds.(6 mos. through 35 mos--2 doses, 4 wks apart. Total 25 mcg)

  • wow 14000 views thats it? how many people took the vaccines? and they dont even listen to those who appose it, im glad i didn want to wait in line. Whether or not it does create autism, this vaccine is bad news bears, so is water fluoridation, and 90 percent of the people dont even know about that either. However they do know what Randy Jackson from american idol had for breakfast, sad, no wonder we have so much government because people care more about fist pumping than there own well being.

  • This link has not been scientifically proven. One gets autism around the time one gets mmr. The only reason why these diseases are harmful in America is because children aren't getting vaccinated, and thousands more children die from not getting vaccinated compared to those who get autism. It's a life or death choice to get vaccinated or not. If everyone gets the vaccines, then those children won't harm any others, and the disease will become extinct

  • The US website, VAERS has published statistics on ONLY ONE (1) of the H1N1(swine flu) vaccines:

    Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine

    As of Feb. 26:

    10,172 reports

    636 classified as "Serious Health Events" --defined as "life-threatening or death, major disability, abnormal conditions at birth, hospitalization, or extension of existing hospitalization"

    51 deaths,

    all under investigation

    500+ reports come to VAERS each week of reactions to this vaccine

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  • People should probably realize that there are genetic components to autism and, as previously mentioned, criteria for diagnosis has changed and become more specific making it more frequently identified. We know nothing about this couple's lifestyle or genetics. These same fear tactics are used when advertising the dangers of H1N1. Headlines read "Teen death linked to Swine Flu!" and people eat it up, without realizing that same patient may have suffered from SCID or leukemia...

  • NO LINK! thats garbage, kids with mitochondrial disorders (per the CDC) will develop "autism like" symptoms from any stress, such as vaccines, fever, etc. Do your research before talking nonsense. I happen to be a NICU nurse with my oldest having Asperger's developing after his MMR? And yes, after further studies he actually has more than one specific mitochondrial disorder. But hey, it would be to expensive to test BEFORE giving the vaccine/Autism to kids.

  • What your saying is not incorrect, nor have I heard anyone dispute that. However, do you know that the person who uploaded this video think that Autism didn't exist before organic mercury was put in vaccines as a preservative?

    She talks a lot of nonsense and even goes as far as saying that Autism is a completely drug-induced condition manufactured by the Illuminati?

    That is the "link" that most people are arguing against - not a non-direct causal link involving fever or stress.

  • Could you help us out (seriously) by telling us which research tells us that vaccination causes asd in kids with mitochondrial disorder? I know that this is a risk factor that is aggravated by environmental toxins (there's published evidence of that), but I don't know of studies that link this to vaccination, due to the vanishingly low levels of such toxins in them. Correlation does not equal causation, right?

  • We need to force the people who say its safe and make them take it and make their children also take the exact same injections that make people have autisim.

    They won't because money talks.

  • Why is he choking when he talks?

  • Thimerosol is half mercury by weight. The FDA admits that it is used in vaccines. And then goes on to ignorantly say that the benefits outweigh the risks. THERE IS NO BENEFIT OF PUTTING MERCURY INTO YOUR BODY.

  • This is not disputed by anyone, but actually studies looking for a link haven't found one. There's no benefit, but some form of preservative is required, and currently the there is no known risk of the kind claimed in this video. However, I encourage you to look at the stats when kids are not vaccinated for things like measles, mumps, pertussis, etc. Those are the risks that we no longer see because of vaccination, but that are very real, and that once killed thousands of children.

  • Wehy the need to use thimerosal as a preservative? Can't we use something else just to be safe? FDA takes years to approve a medicine just to make sure it will not harm anyone. If there is a correlation between thimerosal and autism, further tests should be ran and on the meanwhile, thimerosal shouldn't be used until it is proved to be safe.

  • You're so right: why take chances? Currently thimerosal is being removed from many drugs. The FDA has a list of those that still contain it on their website (google "thimerosal fda" and it is the first hit). You'll see here (half way down the page on Fig. 1) that MMR does not contain it (and never did). Also, although mercury is a known toxin, the amount contained in some vaccines is dwarfed by even dietary levels. And there is a massive literature showing no link of vaccines to autism.

  • Since everyone is so skeptical of science, by the way, I wonder where you've found your facts that show that autism and vaccines are related. I'd love to understand how you know when to trust science and when not to, and better yet I'd love to see a single study that finds such a link. This, I think, will be a very long wait.

  • Here's another example of America's war on science: no amount of evidence will convince some people of evolution, global warming, the lack of relation between autism and vaccination, or Barack Obama's birthplace. Fact has become irrelevant, as ideology, fear, and the quest for power via "special" knowledge reigns. The original study that claimed to find a MMR autism link was retracted by the authors because they made serious errors in their methods. No study since has found a link.

  • People,

    Watch Dr. Andrew Moulden videos.

    Vaccines destroy life.

  • assburgers hehe.. this is sad though

  • I hope you guys realize thiomersal is also in mascara, eye drops and nasal sprays which are used more often and in larger doses than a vaccine.

  • This explains the plethora of ill people in the U.S.

  • Rasnixful - You're drinking the grape kool-aid too. Spoken just like someone who has done absolutely NO personal research. Words from your doc and words from the media are NOT facts. Ignorance breeds ignorance, so maybe they should eliminate your gene pool STAT!

  • How about the 197,000 people in the world that died of Measles in 2007. They were certainly "eliminated".

    The reason MOST of "you" are doing fine is because of the rest of us are vaccinated and therefor "herd immunity" is maintained.

    This additive is no longer used in the U.S. for *routine* vaccines in children. Why hasn't Autism plummeted?! Imagine that.

  • Wow, you've been totally duped and it's BLATANTLY obvious YOU personally have done NO research for yourself. You're drinking the grape kool-aid.

  • Saying that I have drunk grape kool-aid really doesn't give me any information that might make me either change my mind or think that you actually have any evidence for your own view.

    No, I haven't been directly involved in the research myself. It's not my research area. I have a suspicion neither have you.

    So, if reading medical journals and information from the World Health Organization is not "doing research for myself" I suppose I haven't.

  • You think that WHO the CDC or the AAP is going to admit that vaccines cause autism? Hell no! Not when they are getting a kick down from PHARMA and not when their ass in on the line because of what they have done to millions of innocent children.

    You don't do research regarding a foreign substance that someone wants to put in your body? I continue to be totally shocked on a daily basis by people who blindly walk in like robots and let people shoot them with poison. DO RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF!!!

  • Ah - so you DO, personally, do medical research?! What exactly do you do? Are you going through an Independent Review Board, or are you simply picking up strangers on the street and experimenting on them?

    My question is, where ARE you getting your info if you are not getting it from others?

  • You lost focus on point of central argument. Research is off purpose. Research works for both the medical and pharmaceutical industry.

  • Precisely zero link between autism and vaccination.

    But by all means if you believe there is, don't vaccinate yourself or allow your children to be vaccinated.

    The sooner we can eliminate your genes from the gene pool the better off humanity will be.

  • Um - so LiteWaiter - you are saying that the pharma industry orchestrates the outcome of studies and then you say that medical journals say the swine flu is mild.....ummmmm......

    Maybe there has been fewer deaths in New Zealand due to flu because they are being more careful this year and more people are getting vaccinated? Novel thought.

    ...or maybe it's a FRICKING ISLAND - and explaining what has happened there is not generalizable? :)

  • I come from a global point of view, I've worked for the medical pharma industry (in Europe). I KNOW what I'm talking about... I stepped out for ethical reasons.

    And, New Zealand is not just an island........

  • Were you a research scientist, a paper pusher, or a rep?

    I'm not saying that Pharma is always above board, however, the specific charge that thiomersal causes Autism is not supported by evidence.

  • This is such a silly argument that it isn't even an argument. It's like saying that since your Dad is a surgeon that you know lots about surgery. Listen: anyone can read the scientific literature, which includes studies from all over the world. Many countries (e.g., Japan) feared MMR initially, pulled the vaccine and did huge studies. But they found no link, and autism diagnoses continued to increase. Why? The same reason depression increased, and ADHD, etc. the DSM IV and increased awareness.

  • Not very impressive, you can't even make a causal statement, DSM IV has nothing to do with vaccines, my dad has nothing to do with this.

    You can CHOOSE to make a constructive interpretation of what I say, yet you convert my words into stupid, not even argumentation (practice what you preach) , you only are trying to bully. Feels good?

    What a sad, sick, typical bully you are.

  • Don't be a baby - just reply to the content of the message, rather than resorting to character attacks. There are multiple large scale analyses of autism prevalence over time, which conclude that the growth in diagnosis is due to how is diagnosed (e.g., M Rutter - Acta Paediatrica, 2005). I see nothing constructive in what you said, except that you know lots because of the job you had. Not sure what point that is supposed to make?

  • It couldn't be stated better. People fail to realize that diagnostic criteria have changed over the years. We start diagnosing more cases of breast cancer from mammograms. Does that mean the incidence is rising? Or gee, maybe we're detecting things that previously would not have been so obvious. But rather than trying to make logical associations, people fall back to primitive cause-and-effect relationships that are weak at best.

  • It shouldn't required 100% before action is taken. If sufficient risk fears are presented, the vaccination should be pulled. No buts.

  • tha government is F*$ked?

  • Swiss drug dealers: Roche Holding AG (Hoffman-LaRoche Ltd), manufacturers of a FLU VACCINE OSELTAMIVIR (aka) TAMIFLU, appear to be willing to do us all a favour by revising warnings on their drugs label; the new label should read: Several patients have died from abnormal behaviors. There have been almost 600 psychiatric problems and, 5 deaths, attributed to the TAMIFLU - FLU SHOT.

    Dr. Tom Jefferson says: There isn't enough proof that flu vaccine is effective to support public programs.

  • they don't care about your kids they want the money

  • slight aspergus sydrome, give me a break. no 2 kids are the same.

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  • RFK is clearly a lawyer, not a scientist.

    a) Mercury and ethyl mercury are not the same compound. Injecting kids with that much mercury is of course, deadly, injecting them with the equivalent amount of ethyl mercury is not. To give you an analogy, we have lots of flourine compounds in toothpaste to make them better, which is harmless, while ELEMENTAL flourine is one of the most lethal things you could expose yourself to (think incredibly painful erosive death).

  • I do not agree with your assertion that the fluoride compounds found in toothpastes are harmless. We do not use them and encourage others to do the same.

    Suffice to say we all have healthy teeth as well as not suffering from the many adverse effects of this particular poison.

    The injection of ethyl-mercury (for those that do not realise it, mercury in alchohol), it cannot be denied that this will have no effect on the infant, especially the brain and central nervous system.

  • "I do not agree with your assertion that the fluoride compounds found in toothpastes are harmless" - even though you might have your useless opinion...do you have any usefull piece of empirical proven evidence to even support your arguments??

    i can only assume you have rotten teeth... as i am not even believeing that you don't use nothing to clean your teeth...

  • "it cannot be denied that this will have no effect on the infant, especially the brain and central nervous system. "

    k, let's not deny it.

    Empirical proof/evidence to support such well known and reffuted nonsense of yours???

    toxicity is dose related pondman27 ---> any highschool kid has figured this out...

  • The amount of fluoride in toothpaste is harmless, then why does it say on the back DO NOT SWOLLOW? Give me a break.

  • h t t p : / /big. assets. huffingtonpost. com/BANKS_CASE.pdf

    "... parents of yet another child with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) were awarded a lump sum of more than $810,000 (plus an estimated $30-40,000 per year for autism services and care) in compensation by the Court, which ruled that the measels-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine had caused acute brain damage that led to his autism spectrum disorder...."

  • huffpost nonsense again...

    because if you actually read the court rule (but your denialist mind seems to reffute direct facts and go for inderect sources - and therefore you posted the huffnonsense instead of the court rule)

    the court CONCEDED, not ruled the causation to the vaccine. It was due to strong temporal association and very very weird: not all panel of experts were heard....

    well...it is not uncommon for the huffnonsense to manipulate info...

  • transtlantic The court awarded the family of the autistic child a huge lump sum IN ADDITION TO $30,000-40,000 a year for autism care and services.

  • trying to figure out your last post...

    so you actually read the court rule and found out that the huffnonsense manipulated the info?

    because the court conceded, the causation was never explained.

    i suppose it was an accepted compensation, some judges prefer to concede...

    btw, have you checked the follow up of the case?

  • "Note the difference. The claim in the ruling is not that ADEM led to pervasive developmental disorder, not otherwise specialized (PDD-NOS). The ruling is about pervasive developmental delay (PDD). The difference is more than a matter of semantics"

  • pdd is not autism.

    and all this huffnonsense is debunked in websites like:

    sciencebasedmedicine org

    but nice try

  • transtlantic Autism is a PDD. Asperger's is a Pervasive Developmental Disorder as evaluated by my son's neuro-psychologist. Social Security Admininstration DSM-IV codes Asperger's & PDD with the same numerical code to qualify for SSI:

    h t t p: //en. wikipedia. org/wiki/DSM-IV_Codes

    "Pervasive developmental disorders

    299.00 Autistic disorder

    299.80 Rett's Disorder

    299.10 Childhood Disintegrative Disorder

    299.80 Aspergers Disorder

    299.80 Pervasive Developmental Disorder NOS "

  • transtlantic Autism , Asperger's , Rhetts and PDD-NOS are ALL under the same group of Pervasive Developmental Disorders .

    You clearly know nothing about Autism Spectrum Disorders.

  • you said it yourself:

    "Pervasive developmental disorders

    299.00 Autistic disorder

    299.80 Rett's Disorder

    299.10 Childhood Disintegrative Disorder

    299.80 Aspergers Disorder

    299.80 Pervasive Developmental Disorder NOS "

    PDD is not equal to PPD-NOS or autism. is a general classification to a mental status.

    the court rule states it also. A bit of confusion is made by the judge between the PDD and PDD-NOS, but as you said it: autism is not equal to PPD

  • transtlantic Again, autism and PDD-NOS are in the same exact group of 299 PDD disorders (hardly just a "general classification" as you pretend) , so yes, you are indeed splitting a hair. That is why the court also awarded lifelong autism services as well as the lump sum.

  • you really did not read the court rule... have you?

    you simply took at point blanck all the nonsense of the huffpost and from other bogus websites and that's it! science is for you to avoid and deny it seems...

    the court rule NEVER says that Blacke as autism, NEVER in the final decision. PDD disorders INCLUDE autism AND PDD-NOS!, making autism =/= PPD-NOS!!

    even though it is socially translated the both of them to ASD, they are different!

    get real and get your facts right

  • transtlantic You clearly are not familiar with autism spectrum disorders at all in a medical /neuropsychological setting . They are all related , my son even has other symptoms of autism and PDD-NOS , even though his "niche" is specifically Asperger's Syndrome. The PDD-NOS is on the autism spectrum disorders in the MEDICAL/PSYCHIATRIC fields (not just "socially" , as you pretend. )

  • btw... the court rule clearly states that the lifelong treatment is for whatever disorder the Blacke have. it does not specify that it is for autism or any other PDD disorder.

    And again: this court rule did not prove causation.

    That was shown in the 12 february of 2009, OMNIBUS trial where: NO link between autism and vaccines exist! enf of and move on to other hypothesis.

    like plastics or pregnants eating to much macdonalds burgers...

  • transtlantic The Black case was about vaccine damage.

  • tired about your ignorance and denialism aspieresearchmom...

    if you think you can make a case, present it to the US special court, apart from that it seems i can't remove you from your fantasies...

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  • i can only blame all the confusion to the fact that ASD is being mixed with PDD concept. And therefore the increase of "autism increase scare"....

    even though it is a very complex subject to be discussed here aspienotresearchmom, i would advise you to focus in proper info.

  • Agreed as there have all neurological damage, dyspraxia or DCD would come in there as well as it is litterly nerve damage as the nerves can't grow properly

  • The only court case I am aware of involved a young person with mitochondrial disease. When you have that genetic disorder (it is given through the mother's mitochondria) the first fever the child has will cause brain damage and symptoms similar to autism.

    The first high fever was due to vaccines and the parents won the case - but the case has nothing to do with how the general population reacts to vaccines and if the child had a fever for other reasons the result would be the same.

  • What does a court ruling have to do with fact? So now we trust the American justice system to establish scientific facts more than scientists themselves? Courts, like the public, are only interpreters of events and science. The scientific literature, meanwhile, finds no link between vaccination and autism.

  • DoctorTung Are you kidding ? There are hundreds of domestic and international scientific research studies about both mercury (environmental) and thimerosal(vaccines containing mercury) as a link to autism/neurological disorders. Not to mention the links of mercury to neurological disorders that come later in life, such as Alzheimer's .

  • Have I ever claimed otherwise? No. These facts are in fact in the literature and everone recognizes them. But this isn't what's being debated. The question is about dosage. Nobody wants any amount of mercury in their bodies. But it turns out that the doses used (now rarely) in vaccinations are not large enough to generate risk. There is, once again, no evidence for a link between thimerosal / mercury in vaccination and autism. There is, however, plenty of evidence that no link exists.

  • DoctorTung ok, you agree there hundreds of studies that point to mercury and thimerosal as a cause of autism/neurological disorders, but you are splitting hairs with "dosage"? First of all , thimerosal is not rare, its even in the current Swine Flu vaccines. Secondly, what dosage is "safe" to you, considering the fact that any amount adds to mercury body burden?

  • It's absurd to call this splitting hairs, if the difference is between causing autism and not causing it. This is especially significant because of known risks of not vaccinating. Look at the number of deaths caused by now preventable diseases prior to the existence of vaccination. Parents who don't vaccinate now of thimerosal put their kids at a massive risk. Eating a tuna sandwich is more dangerous than the flu shot.

  • DoctorTung Mercury VAPOR is proven to cause brain damage, to say that vaccine thimerosal has a "safe" level is a totally false statement on your part. You have no study to prove your "point", if you did you would post it.

  • If you want me to I can list all of the papers that show no link. I'm happy to. You can find a very generous serving of this by using google scholar, too. Also, note that the original study to report a link was retracted. It's a claim without basis. Also, again, NOBODY denies that mercury is a toxin. Let's not debate that point - it's ridiculous. The question is about does in vaccines. Studies in Japan, by the Dutch, and elsewhere find that ASD increased after removing thimerosal... etc.

  • DoctorTung I too can produce hundreds of scientific studies. So far you have produced none.

  • DoctorTung Ok, what is the "safe" level of thimerosal in fetuses, infants and children ? And where is the study to prove this?

  • I posted a bunch of papers below. To answer your question is actually impossible empirically, without doing an unethical study. You would need to administer different doses of thimerosal in very large numbers of infants, anticipating that some would suffer neurological harm. You can't do this study obviously. But you can determine that levels currently used cause no harm using epidemiological studies (see the cites below). This has been done.

  • There are thimerosal-free H1N1 shots available for infants. See the FDA website regarding other vaccines. It is indeed rare. But it doesn't matter whether it is or not. Removing it has no effect whatsoever, as shown in the Dutch and Japanese examples, where it was removed and ASD diagnoses continued to increase.

  • Transtlantic shot him/her/itself in the foot, two papers - Pediatrics 2008 and the 2002 Clarkson paper don't agree as the 2002 paper says on the second page at the bottom that the urinary excretion is negligible as only about 10% goes out that way. YET the pediatrics paper uses urine as testing. Oops!

  • err... lilmiss the 2008 paper explains how in 6 years the validity of using urine samplings to measure mercury levels is one valid method...

    but you would know that if you actually have read them both and had any education at all in science, which you havent has you clearly failed highschool

  • How can it be "valid" when other people it isn't? science dictates that 10% of anything isn't going to give an accurate reading as it is known that only 10% on average is going to be in urine, the other 90 in stools and the 6 month old kids had high levels on mercury in the stools.

  • giberish giberish giberish....

    you can't understand the paper even if i explained to you by drawing in a paper the answer....

    go back to highschool

  • Someone isn't willing to check up. I can see it being wrong and most other "scientists" can

  • High school does nothing, Only to get you a rich job. I say fcuk money.

  • i say heck igrnorance and stupidity

  • Without the buildings & streets, Earth should be heaven.

  • How bad is the pediatrics pape?

    Measuring mercury levels in blood and urine? well, it says in your paper MERCURY was present in the stools, (which is 90% excretion method of Hg). If they seen that, why at the start mention only the blood and urine?

    The report doesn't state if the kids are autistic or not? the graphs show there was a quite high level of Hg (40 ug per g in their stools) and that was 6 months old kids 10 days since vaccination.

    All the stool charts had high Hg readings.

  • meaning that all the injected mercury was excreted you ignorant!

    go back to highschool

  • These kids are not autistic by the looks of things though. Why does the 6 month old have the highest level of Hg? if they can completely excrete the Hg, their Hg should be low, but it is the highest!

    Add more thiomersal vaccines to that and it will add up

  • bah lilmiss...

    you are a lost case..

    just expose your ideas when you go to that medical school and see what they tell you directly

  • i hate ass holes like you that are too stubborn to accept the facts!!!

  • err.... ad hominem attack..

    and from you luke not 1 thing to support your "facts"...

    so more FACTS for you to know vaccines are safe:

    PMID: 15446391;12880876; 12949291; 14519711; 16919130; 18791815; 15858952; 14754936; 11222420; 11850369; 15342825; 15342856; 19128068; 17168158; 19015994; 18172138; 18482737; 18180424; 18180423; 11331700; 16818529; 15342824; 17898097

  • Vaccinate your children all you phuck-tard parents. You know who you are.

  • More to the point there is no inter vaccine microbe safety papers i can see!

    It's lunacy and irresponsible. I am getting called for everything and people are saying that I should go back and do high school science when I am a trained drug chemist,

    BTW beware of triclosan in toothpaste, I know it is there I did a placment for colgate!

  • "More to the point there is no inter vaccine microbe safety papers i can see" - simple: remove the 2 eye patches you are using everytime you read scientific papers.

    "when I am a trained drug chemist," who does not know what is DNA, fails at physiology, physics, believes in homeopathy... so on...

    even though triclosan might have it's problems, it is a very good anti-bacterial and anti-fungal product. It's side-effects at the doses presented are still in debate.

  • i have Autism and it is vary small

  • So, are they going to kill this Kennedy as well? Really, the whole thing is mostly covered up by the media so these murdering thugs are safe . . . for now.

  • wow didnt know Kennedy is a scientist...cool....

  • Bravo for your courage Robert. But vaccinations are not the only source of fetal exposure to mercury. Amy Holmes 2003 found that the mothers so called "Silver" fillings are actually a greater source of exposure than diet. So if the mother had a tooth drilled on by some mercury-placing dentist while pregnant the fetal exposure would be enormous.

    At the 2006 FDA hearings Dr. Goldman asked what precautions dentists take for pregnant women. She was shocked when she heard the dentists answer NONE.

  • Absolutely correct! The amalscams on top of the vaccines are particularly debilitating, very pronounced... and this damage has been occuring for many decades, but is getting much, much worse - the FDA is lying, of course, that recent vaccines have no mercury... the trace is deadly and the vaccine schedule ramped up... many lives and families are being destroyed.... also watch the fluoride, aspartame, HFCS, fish...

  • The vaccine schedule contains less biological material now than it did 20 years ago, despite double the number of vaccines. Efficacy and safety profiles have risen concurrently. The statistics and research have borne these results consistently. Trace makes all the difference in the world. There is NO research showing that ethylHg in vaccine thimerosal dose causes damage. Baskin used more. The University of Calgary used more of a different Hg compound. Both were used directly on single neurons.

  • his voice is funny

  • "I am a nurse who is exposing the Illuminati's use of modern medicine to drug, poison and control millions in their pursuit of a New World Order."

    Yeah, that about says it all.

  • what's wrong with his voice??

  • utter bollox

  • DO WE HAVE TO KILL ANOTHER KENNEDY?

  • bullshit

  • They are the virus and we are the remedy - hunt down these profiteers of misery and neutralize them.

  • life is constantly undergoing evolution. before the advent of modern medication and vaccinations, selection removed a large amount of people who carried the genes that would spread genetic disorders to us. they simply died because we could not keep them alive. this removed them from the pool of people who could have children. more and more we are fighting against selection. this places more "bad" genes in the human gene pool. this also contributes to many health problems in the world today.

  • That's a lie.

  • LOL

  • What he is saying about thimerosal is just pure garbage. And now that it has been removed from all vaccinations the autism rates continue to rise. So where is the link?

    Get some simple information and then debate the topic.  Do NOT expose your children to life threatening disease because these fools can't do simple science.

  • martin - Saying thimerosal is no longer in use is an out and out LIE. It is STILL used if Flu vaccines which ARE given to children, as well as used in the actual production process of vaccines. Notice the gov't never says completely FREE of thimerosal, they use the slippery wording of "trace amounts" which is NOT THE SAME THING. Tainted batches were never recalled. Do YOUR research! Drug companies found it more 'cost effective' to use them up instead. My grandchild now has autism AFTER the shots

  • See the FDA website. Most vaccines no longer have it. Also, the study that first reported a link was retracted by 10 of it's authors because their data was contaminated. Subsequently, the removal of thimerosal in multiple countries led to no reduction in ASD diagnoses (actually an increase). This is because increased diagnosis over the past 20 years is, like for ADHD, related to awareness of the disorder in large part. Environmental toxins may play a role, but no link with vaccines exists.

  • DoctorTung There are plenty of studies around the world that show thimerosal as cause of neurological damage, the latest science research study group is in Warsaw , Poland, they just published their findings :

    "Brain Res. 2009 Dec 8;1301:143-51. Epub 2009 Sep 9.

    Neonatal administration of a vaccine preservative, thimerosal, produces lasting impairment of nociception and apparent activation of opioid system in rats."

    h t t p : / / w w w. ncbi. nlm. nih. gov/pubmed/19747466

  • This is the evidence??? Neither of these is autism (or related to it). Rats are not human, and it is routinely found that rat models differ from humans in their response to interventions. Once again there is no evidence that doses provided in vaccinations (now rare) cause autism.

  • DoctorTung Your "points" are moot without science. Talk is cheap, show me the research studies from science publications to prove your claims.

  • B Taylor, E Miller, CP Farrington, MC - The Lancet, 1999 - Elsevier

    Kaye et al. BMJ 2001

    L Dales, SJ Hammer, NJ Smith - Jama, 2001 - Am Med Assoc

    A Hviid, M Stellfeld, J Wohlfahrt, M Melbye - Jama, 2003 - Am Med Assoc

    KM Madsen, MB Lauritsen, CB Pedersen, P - Pediatrics, 2003 - Am Acad Pediatrics

    There are dozens and dozens and dozens all showing no link.

  • DoctorTung you have already admitted that mercury is toxic. Your quote: "Also, again, NOBODY denies that mercury is a toxin" You were supposed to prove your point that there is a 'safe' level of mercury in thimerosal. Which specific study states this 'safe' level, and what is the 'safe' level of mercury in thimerosal by dosage?

  • My point is only that vaccines are safe. Nobody is arguing that mercury is not a neurotoxin. That's a well established fact. And so, too, is the fact that the does used (now not so commonly) in vaccines is not harmful.