Do you belong to Judys fan club in England ? Last week I got a dvd documentary from the club on Judys 1957 Domion concert- with footage behind the stage of Judy for a few minutes or two- its the clubs first attempt on making a dvd of stuff related to Judy -
the children of addicts have a love hate relationship with their parents, they love their parents but hate that behavoir that separates them, you take it personal and think that if you could somehow change your behavior than your parent will stop, and nothing you can do will stop them it has to be your parent that wants to stop, and at the time and in Judys world it was nearly impossible. This must have been compounded a hundred fold being the daughter of Judy Garland. everybody loved her.
It seems to me that the "tragedy" of judy garland that everyone talks about is how used she was by everyone around her. As a commodity she was the trick pony thrown out on stage to make more money for others regardless of her health or happiness. Now we have her children doing the same thing that everyone else in her life did to her.
How fucking rude she is to even say that Judy's fan's cant cry over her death. Its not exactly making it about themselves, they just lost a person who brought years decades even of talent to the television. Just cause they didnt know her personally doesn't mean there not allowed to cry.
nobody read Gerald Clarks 'get happy' he wrote alot of lies about judy and made her to look like a headcase, and when lorna rang him to tell him he had made errors in his book, he had the nerve to tell lorna SHE was wrong, her own daughter was wrong about her mother life because sum money grabbing author wants money
I have a copy of his book, "Get Happy", and I found alot of it very upsetting, after I read it I never picked it up again, It is collecting dust on my book shelf, and It was very difficult to actually believe half of it. So I agree with you on that. He made her look so terrible when in fact she was the greatest entertainer to walk this earth =) Good comment-
I'm sure she doesn't intend it, but Lorna Luft comes off sounding very bitter while she convinces us that she's just fine....and i agree, the thing about fans caring enough to cry is completely lost on her.
I suppose I can see where she's coming from, but didn't really appreciate what she said about people being "selfish" when it comes to death. It is natural to think about how losing someone effects your life and the impact they've had, of course you'd cry and be sad. It's not taking away anything from what Judy's family and close friends felt, but she is part of the history of so many people's lives that it is hard to lose her.
I'll love Judy Garland, no matter what anyone says. If I were at the funeral, I probably would have been histerical. Even though I didn't know her personally. RIP, Miss Garland. :)
Nobody said Sid was of no help to Judy. But there's no question that aside from Judy's first two husbands, the following three had no jobs, starting with Sid, and wound up working for Judy. Imagine if Judy had married someone reasonably attractive and caring who had his own career and could have been the breadwinner in the family, for a change?
We'll never know, but it could have given her a break from her treadmill of work, restored her mental and physical health perhaps.
Mickey Deans. They met as early as 1966 when he delivered a parcel of drugs to Judy, and Lorna let him in. Lorna also knew him from the discotheque Arthur, where he worked as a waiter, then a manager. It's very ironic she calls Deans an opportunist going along for the ride, because this is what people said about her own father, also a non-entity with no career, who latched on to Judy when she was ill. What is she thinking?
Hmm they did say that about sid luft BUT without him no Judy at the palace; no concert years. She always turned to him to sort stuff out even long after the divorce. Plus he is the one who kept the tapes of "The Judy Garland Show" safe for all those years when no one cared. Im agine if they had been lost! So who knows, but Sid Luft definately loved and helped Garland.
Actually, the first time she met Deans may have been in 1965. In Lorna's book, Judy took both of them with her to Arthur's after her appearance at Forest Hills, NY. I know it seems odd, but Judy did let them accompany her to nightclubs, and such a photo is even in Lorna's book. According to Mickey Deans' own book, Lorna even came without Judy and Mickey personally took her order, which was "ginger ale with fruit in it." "Oh, Mickey, you're the greatest," she said. If you believe him.
Part2. When Lorna let Deans into her mother's hotel suite, again according to Mickey Deans, he thought it would seem more appropriate for some reason to introduce himself as "Dr. Deans" to both Lorna and Joey who was also present. There is no way she didn't later know that Dr. Deans at the hotel, Mickey Deans at Arthur, and Mama's new husband Mickey Deans were all the same person. Why she claimed not to know him, and what she had to gain by saying this, I don't know.
Does anyone know what song Judy starts singing at about 2:33? Thanks for posting these interviews with Lorna and Liza, great to get the real stories and understand their perspectives. They both seem like extraordinary women.
I admire Lorna's honesty. The children of Judy Garland who are performers (Lorna and Liza, of course), owe their audiences nothing but amazing perfomances (which they give every time). I think we need to respect them enough to have private lives without gawkers. Although this is a beautiful tribute to their mother, I cannot help thinking the press needs to leave them alone.
I had it recorded on a VHS video tape. Finally figured out how to get it onto DVD! I'll also be uploading the Tale of Two Sisters which is an interview with Lorna and Liza
Do you belong to Judys fan club in England ? Last week I got a dvd documentary from the club on Judys 1957 Domion concert- with footage behind the stage of Judy for a few minutes or two- its the clubs first attempt on making a dvd of stuff related to Judy -
ozboy39 2 weeks ago
@ozboy39 No I don't. But that sounds really good!
firefliesuk 2 weeks ago
Yeah I know its old but its one of the best documentaries on Judy Ive seen in a long time- maybe one day it will be shown here in the U.S. - Thanx
ozboy39 2 weeks ago
@ozboy39 It is a really good one. It was part of a BBC series over here. I wish they would repeat them all
firefliesuk 2 weeks ago
Wish this was shown in the U.S.- Been trying to get a copy on dvd - thank you for sharing
ozboy39 2 weeks ago
@ozboy39 Yes..this was shown in the UK some years ago now
firefliesuk 2 weeks ago
It's sad how they weren't close to Judy towards the end of her life. Lorna just couldn't take the addiction and the new husbands anymore :(
cam11971 2 weeks ago
the children of addicts have a love hate relationship with their parents, they love their parents but hate that behavoir that separates them, you take it personal and think that if you could somehow change your behavior than your parent will stop, and nothing you can do will stop them it has to be your parent that wants to stop, and at the time and in Judys world it was nearly impossible. This must have been compounded a hundred fold being the daughter of Judy Garland. everybody loved her.
beki17 7 months ago
It seems to me that the "tragedy" of judy garland that everyone talks about is how used she was by everyone around her. As a commodity she was the trick pony thrown out on stage to make more money for others regardless of her health or happiness. Now we have her children doing the same thing that everyone else in her life did to her.
IMPei100 1 year ago 3
How fucking rude she is to even say that Judy's fan's cant cry over her death. Its not exactly making it about themselves, they just lost a person who brought years decades even of talent to the television. Just cause they didnt know her personally doesn't mean there not allowed to cry.
CharliePProductions 1 year ago 4
I don't think that last bit about Lorna in the disco era was pertinent to the story.
VIEWTUBE00000 1 year ago
nobody read Gerald Clarks 'get happy' he wrote alot of lies about judy and made her to look like a headcase, and when lorna rang him to tell him he had made errors in his book, he had the nerve to tell lorna SHE was wrong, her own daughter was wrong about her mother life because sum money grabbing author wants money
Pixiebabylove 1 year ago 4
I have a copy of his book, "Get Happy", and I found alot of it very upsetting, after I read it I never picked it up again, It is collecting dust on my book shelf, and It was very difficult to actually believe half of it. So I agree with you on that. He made her look so terrible when in fact she was the greatest entertainer to walk this earth =) Good comment-
MissGarland18 1 year ago 7
Judy was the great a star what else can be said about her. Her raw talent for acting her voice all made her brillant.
richierichnumber1 2 years ago
But I do love seeing that she saw the reality of the entire situation, especially Mickey Deems, the last husband, "along for the ride".
txquis 2 years ago
I'm sure she doesn't intend it, but Lorna Luft comes off sounding very bitter while she convinces us that she's just fine....and i agree, the thing about fans caring enough to cry is completely lost on her.
txquis 2 years ago
I suppose I can see where she's coming from, but didn't really appreciate what she said about people being "selfish" when it comes to death. It is natural to think about how losing someone effects your life and the impact they've had, of course you'd cry and be sad. It's not taking away anything from what Judy's family and close friends felt, but she is part of the history of so many people's lives that it is hard to lose her.
latinalady81 2 years ago 3
I'll love Judy Garland, no matter what anyone says. If I were at the funeral, I probably would have been histerical. Even though I didn't know her personally. RIP, Miss Garland. :)
97sweeney10 2 years ago 10
Nobody said Sid was of no help to Judy. But there's no question that aside from Judy's first two husbands, the following three had no jobs, starting with Sid, and wound up working for Judy. Imagine if Judy had married someone reasonably attractive and caring who had his own career and could have been the breadwinner in the family, for a change?
We'll never know, but it could have given her a break from her treadmill of work, restored her mental and physical health perhaps.
defundthewar 2 years ago
Despite what Lorna says, she
did know Judy's last husband,
Mickey Deans. They met as early as 1966 when he delivered a parcel of drugs to Judy, and Lorna let him in. Lorna also knew him from the discotheque Arthur, where he worked as a waiter, then a manager. It's very ironic she calls Deans an opportunist going along for the ride, because this is what people said about her own father, also a non-entity with no career, who latched on to Judy when she was ill. What is she thinking?
defundthewar 2 years ago
Hmm they did say that about sid luft BUT without him no Judy at the palace; no concert years. She always turned to him to sort stuff out even long after the divorce. Plus he is the one who kept the tapes of "The Judy Garland Show" safe for all those years when no one cared. Im agine if they had been lost! So who knows, but Sid Luft definately loved and helped Garland.
Sondheimsbitch 2 years ago
she did not know him, yes she let him in the room once but how do u know that she knew him from arthurs a disco in 1966 how old was she 14!!!
paulsimpson123 2 years ago
Actually, the first time she met Deans may have been in 1965. In Lorna's book, Judy took both of them with her to Arthur's after her appearance at Forest Hills, NY. I know it seems odd, but Judy did let them accompany her to nightclubs, and such a photo is even in Lorna's book. According to Mickey Deans' own book, Lorna even came without Judy and Mickey personally took her order, which was "ginger ale with fruit in it." "Oh, Mickey, you're the greatest," she said. If you believe him.
Part1
defundthewar 2 years ago
Part2. When Lorna let Deans into her mother's hotel suite, again according to Mickey Deans, he thought it would seem more appropriate for some reason to introduce himself as "Dr. Deans" to both Lorna and Joey who was also present. There is no way she didn't later know that Dr. Deans at the hotel, Mickey Deans at Arthur, and Mama's new husband Mickey Deans were all the same person. Why she claimed not to know him, and what she had to gain by saying this, I don't know.
defundthewar 2 years ago
very touching - thank you so much for posting this - why hasnt this been shown in the USA?
ozboy39 2 years ago
Does anyone know what song Judy starts singing at about 2:33? Thanks for posting these interviews with Lorna and Liza, great to get the real stories and understand their perspectives. They both seem like extraordinary women.
judilynnski 2 years ago
The song is A New World from Star is Born.
19171969 2 years ago
the song is called "A New World" from the Star is Born soundtrack.
nuclearphyllis 2 years ago
Music by Harold Arlen
Lyrics by Ira Gershwin
I think the verse to this song is so beautiful!
damone77 2 years ago
Love that singe (Longtime) thanks for posting this video!
Kudos4Lorna 2 years ago
I admire Lorna's honesty. The children of Judy Garland who are performers (Lorna and Liza, of course), owe their audiences nothing but amazing perfomances (which they give every time). I think we need to respect them enough to have private lives without gawkers. Although this is a beautiful tribute to their mother, I cannot help thinking the press needs to leave them alone.
lizziesecondstreet 2 years ago
thank you sooooooooo very much for this tribute to a legend
22moviefan22 3 years ago
aw thanks for putting this up :) it's so emotional :(:( xx
xxlornaluftfan4evaxx 3 years ago
This is so well done! Thanks again, fireflies! I didn't even know this existed.
maisonvivante 3 years ago
I had it recorded on a VHS video tape. Finally figured out how to get it onto DVD! I'll also be uploading the Tale of Two Sisters which is an interview with Lorna and Liza
firefliesuk 3 years ago