Case Sorting @ 1000 Yards #1

[GeneralG1810]

Im gona watch this 4 more times so I can be the 55,555 viewer :D

[mrmidnight32]

What round are you shooting??

What rifle??

Size of target??

We need more info than that....

[GeneralG1810]

@mrmidnight32 Gamo air rifle >8D

[mrmidnight32]

@GeneralG1810 Explains the horrible groups hah! ;D

[mrmidnight32]

What round are you shooting??

What rifle??

Size of target??

We need more info than that......

[MBCon18]

I'm not impressed by your ability to put .22 lr rounds on a thousand yard target at 100 yards, but nice try.

[dustbunny252]

its a .22 ?

[Arrow1989]

Fake

[ryandpahl]

First sound = The bullets sonic boom as it passes overhead.

Second sound = Echo of the sonic boom, probably off a canyon wall or similar object.

Third sound = The gunshot.

Lets not forget that the speed of sound depends on the atmospheric conditions of the day. And we do not know what the muzzle velocity or BC of the bullets being used.

Counting time between sounds is only going to give you a rough guess.

I have no doubt its 1000 yards, from my experience in the butts.

[Zeet5]

what a poor shooting man, nothing compares to the danish snipers

[Morrimoo]

@Zeet5

Except Finnish snipers

[7x57mmMauser]

@Zeet5 danish snipers lick nazi assholes.

[MrROTTENJUGGALO]

that aint fake not bad grouping

[carlossenju]

que bobagem.... ainda por cima é ruim de mira!

[cd9ers]

The initial crack is the sonic boom as the bullet passes over the mic followed by the gunshot about 1/2 of a second later

[RubberBudgie7]

Nice shooting, whats your setup? looks small .22 ?.25?

[Range2069]

fake

[Pashen91]

@Range2069 FAKE??? get outta here troll

[Range2069]

@Pashen91 i was never in therefor i cannot get out lol :)

[Pashen91]

@Range2069 Way to navigate my anger with a smiley face. Damn you. lol

[Range2069]

@Pashen91 XD haha and i'm pretty sure that was my younger brother on my account......hes 11 and likes to be retarded lol

[cobannie]

Not 1000 yards. The sound difference for a 1000 yard shot should be ~2.66 seconds, atmospheric conditions slightly varying. In this video, the time between crack & boom is ~1.8 to 2.0 seconds MAX. Meaning these shots are from 675 to 750 yards MAX.

[dustingaunder]

@cobannie You're neglecting that the sound of the shot is traveling simultaneously with the bullet and sonic crack. The bullet probably averages somewhere around mach 2 in the air so I'd expect the report travel to be about 150% of the time of flight or about 1.2 seconds or so. We don't know when the shot was actually fired so we cannot know the actual time of flight. The only thing we have is the comparison of the sonic crack and the report. Sounds right on for 1k yards to me.

[mscmatt]

This is definitely 1000 yards. You can tell by the "crack-bang". The crack is the noise the bullet makes because it's breaking the sound barrier. The bang is the noise from the gun. There's a video about Carlos Hathcock on youtube, and a guy in the video says you can tell how far a sniper is by counting between the crack and bang by counting as fast as you possibly can. If you can get to 3, it's 300 yards. If you can get to 10, (like in this video) it's 1000 yards. By the way, nice group.

[SpiridonovRU]

Fake

[lenthesniper]

definately 1000 yards, been in he butts marking targets for years now and the delay is perfect for that range, camera and therefore mic are at the target shooter is at 1000 yards away no doubt.

[stargatesgstar]

500/700 yrd?

[LOKIUNCIA]

HEY!? ...What Rifle and Cal were you Using?

[Slic3R1]

it doesn't sound like 1000 yards

[TheWomboCombo]

@Slic3R1 Thats because at that range, the bullet hits the target, before the sound of the gun is heard.

The camera is at the target.

[jr9950]

Guys, a sonic crack from a rifle bullet is loud by itself, and is what you are hearing as it gets to and passes the microphone here. The lower frequency boom from the muzzle blast back at the shooter 1000 yards away is clearly heard and arriving slightly later, as it has chased the faster moving bullet to the target.

People seem to always want to yell "fake" as fast as they can at Youtube videos, but I don't feel there is anything out of line going on in this video to merit such a call.

[davedurable]

Assuming a collinear setup, we can assume we'll hear the sonic boom immediately as the bullet passes over the mic (or negligibly shortly thereafter), since the bullet is supersonic throughout its trip. Given that, we'd still need to know the distance from mic to target, but let's assume mic much closer to target than to muzzle. Using tubemasta's numbers at face value, we should hear the report of the rifle ~1.19 seconds after seeing the hole in the target...

We did make a lot of assumptions.

[cchanderson]

@davedurable I have pulled the butts in the Marines @ 500 meters and it sounds similar...could be 1000 no doubt...you have 3 sounds happening...the sound of the bullet passing the microphone (sonic boom), the sound of the bullet impacting the paper, and the sound of the rifle...then all of those sounds echoing off of nearby berms and/or canyon walls.....I think all of that together would sound like what you have heard...

[davedurable]

Ummm... all right. I have a degree in mathematics, and one in physics. The "sonic crack" from the bullet we can assume to travel along with the projectile. However, to calculate the time needed for the sonic boom to reach the microphone, we need to know the geometry of the setup: distance from muzzle to mic, muzzle to target, and angle between mice and target with the muzzle at the vertex, since, unless the 3 objects are collinear, the path of bullet and of recorded report is different.

[TheNakah1001]

hıyar ağası ne 1000 metresı. patlama sesıyle hedefın vurulması aynı anda oluyo halbukı en az 1.2 sanıye zaman gerekır hedefe varması için :D

[tubemasta5000]

If muzzle velocity is 2800 fps and velocity of bullets at target is 1260fps, average of those two is 2030 fps which equates to 1.5 sec flight time over 1000 yards. If 1123 fps is speed of sound then sound of the muzzle blast would take 2.67 secs to reach target. Therefore report from rifle would be heard 1.17 seconds after sonic crack from bullet at the target. It looks right on to me. But then again I don't shoot 1000 yard stuff.

[headphones222]

And where did you get those equations?

Please enlighten me to your degree level maths?

[Tony1KBR]

Gun Guru727, Who in the hell are you calling a Fag? I shot this target! If you look close at the target, it is an 42" square offical 1000 yard Target that I shot using my IBS Light Gun chambered in .300 Ackley. Shooting a 210 gr. Berger VLD at 3050 fps. AT THE MUZZLE! I did not record this 10 shot group to entertain you idiots. I was sorting for 5 cases that group together.

[Tony1KBR]

Go to the International Benchrest Shooters Assn. web page click on Match Results, Long Range, 2008. Look in 21 June Hawk's Ridge North Carolina Match #6 1000 yds LG Relay #3 Score winner and again in the Shoot Off (5.385" 50 w/ 1 X). Those targets plus the Score winner in Relay #5 were shot with these cases.

 If any of you nay sayers would like to see this done, I'll surely let you hold the target for me!

[zooders]

i can confrim all this

[TheDukeofWellingtons]

at 1000 yds. it would take a bullet about ~1.5 second to reach the target. Thus, there will be a ~1.5 second lag between bullet impact and sound. Plus the grouping is too good.

[ChuckAllaway]

@TheDukeofWellingtons that was what i was thought, And from exp of sitting down range 500 yards by the target (safe distance)while my brother shot it, i would radio back the placement, and the sound timing relay is about the same as what i heard... im calling it 500 yards, but the grouping would be better.

[ivicacajavec]

1000 yards my ass.bullet impact and sound in the same time??? 1000 yards???

[MeTaLKaT24]

same

[FishTheMargins]

I thought the same thing. But listen to the sound. The crack you are hearing is the sonic "boom" from the bullet. Just after that you can hear a dull thud. That's the report of the rifle firing and the bullet leaving the barrel.

[1997ss]

It's amazing how much noise the sonic boom makes from such a small object like a bullet.

[YOWHATTHEHELLUP71]

shooting 1000 isnt that difficult. you just need a good scope and you cant flinch.

[pinselplins]

that is not 1000 yards!!!!!

[YOWHATTHEHELLUP71]

yea it is?

[Bly86]

What makes you think it isn't?

You hear the snap of the bullet passing by into the target, then the quiet thud of the rifle about two seconds later. Seems right to me.

[ChuckAllaway]

@Bly86 its more like 0.5 seconds later. aint right

[Bly86]

Why don't you send the author a message and ask him instead of wasting my time.

[ChuckAllaway]

because he already stated his distance, and im sure he's not gonna say, OOOPS! i messed that up...its simply by ear, but who knows, i only assume, alot of people out there would like to say they can shoot at 1000 yards, so you need to be careful on what you believe. its around 750 yards for sure..

[moeboy435]

that is not 1000 yards im sorry the flight time of the bullet is all wrong, it gets there 2 fast. go watch my video of a 1000 yard shot and you will see. Dont lie about your shooting..

[jon4594]

Are you stupid? The bullets are flying much faster then the speed of sound dumbass. If the camera is roughly 1000 yards away from the rifle, and the target is roughly 1000 yards away from the rifle, the bullet will reach the target way before the sound hits your ears/the microphone on the camera. The first crack is likely the bullet breaking the sound barrier.  The second thud is the sound of the rifle. Don't lie about your education, because clearly you lack one.

[moeboy435]

obviosly you have never shot a 1000 yards before. My 7mm with a load that shoots well over 3400 fps and the camera sitting at 1000 or even 1200 the bullet hits the target before you here the sound and the sound of the gun on these shots is far to distinguished and clear to be 1000 yards. Maybi i am not whom needs an edu. =) the sound becomes an echo around a thousand yards not a boom or a BBDU sound that comes from a gun in general.

[jon4594]

No shit sherlock. The camera is sitting very close to the target dumbass, thus you will see the bullet hit the target before the sound reaches it. Also, i find it funny that you think i need an "edu" when you can't even spell half your fucking comment.

[dustingaunder]

Yeah, the sonic crack is heard with the bullet. Then you can hear the report of the rifle just after it. It is impossible to tell the distance by both sounds alone because you can't tell the velocity of the bullet. The time the sound gets to the target should be around 2-2.5 seconds from the time the shot is fired, but we can't tell when this occurs from the video as the camera is 1000 yards down range. moeboy435 is an idiot.

[moeboy435]

Ok you can call me an idiot but where the fuck are your videops of you shooting even close to 1000 yards? You dont know what your talking about... the sound of the gun is not as distinct at 1000 yards as this videos audio presents go set a camera up at 1000 yards and shoot your rifle and tell me it sounds the same as this video.

[moeboy435]

Hey man i want you to watch this video that proves my point and that i am not an idiot, (Range Shooting @ Steel - 754 yards; 308 Sniper ballistic) Go watch this video and then tell me your point is correct. You can hardly hear the sound about 1.5 seconds after the bullet has struck the target and it is very faint. this proves that this target is alot closer than even 300 yards, for the sound is to distinct and loud and to close from the point of impact.

[moeboy435]

Do you even know what BBDU is?? Stick to the paintball guns pussy distance HPR's i would say are out of your league. haha you make me laugh cuz your trying so hard to know what your talking about, I have been trained by the best and i think you should stop and think before you insult someone who has defened your country..

[nedg67]

this vdeo appears genuine I wouldnt go of the video time. the first sound "crack" you are hearing is the bullet passing through the target the second deep thud you are hearing is the shockwave of the rifle fiering 1000 yards = 3000ft Sound travels at 1120 odd fps The bullet fired is quoted to travel at 1700fps bullet to travel 1000y = 1.7 sec sound to travel 1000y= 2.7 sec diff of 1 sec bullet velocity will be slower at 1000y then when fired. cheers nice shooting

[Alrgc2Air]

Damn, I miss shooting 100 Yard BR.

Need to build another heavy gun and come back.

I am a life time member of the VA 1000 Yard Benchrest club. It would be nice to do this again. I spent many a day at Quantico and on the road to Williamsport and Carolina to these matches.

[GCMxVeGeTa]

I don't think its a 1,000 yards either. Plus to make that shot it would be bigger bullets than these BB size holes, or the target is like 10 ft wide...

[drakhen9034]

Actually, the 1000 yard targets are 6 feet wide, which is why the holes seem so small.

[lavid2006]

lol the targets for shooting 1,000 yards ARE ten feel wide : D This video is genuine

[CHOPERUS23]

Hear the gunshot a second after the sonic boom. Does that make it closer than 1000?

[enriquecarloslopezsi]

u would prob hear the shot after hes def not 1000 yards no way in hell

[varmint527]

What the fuck???

[ausmade]

love how the holes just appear

[Randomnick123]

his trigger working needs improvement, and breathing.

[seanpomerinke]

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

[varmint527]

There are children here who ya wouldnt dream of letting near a firearm.

[seanpomerinke]

My comment was to everyone that likes to say that this is not 1,000 yards. If you have ever shot a 1,000 yards before than you would see that sound fallowing the ballistic crack is just right. I get so tired of everybody saying the sound is wrong when A. they wouldn't know anyway or B.they don't think about the sound does not have to travel back to the shooter so the time is cut in half.

[varmint527]

exactly, sound travels at 1087fps or something like that. The round out a 284 or simular f class rifle would be doing about 2800fps. As you said yourself, when at the target the sound only has to travel one way and you can clearly hear the boom in the distance.

I wasnt argueing with ya bud lol

[titcock123]

dude thats about 300 yeards away, and you are firing by the sound and the holes on the target, a 22. cal long ridfle.

if you would shoot a 22. cal on 1000yards, the drop is almost 7 feet on 1000 yeards

nice try though and your 22. aint accurete

[TeamShadowOps]

You don't know anything about long distance shooting, so please don't comment here ever again. If you mean if you shot a .22 LR at 1000 yards it would only drop 7 feet you are terribly wrong. Bullet drop depends on the zero of the scope, but if you sighted a .22 LR in at 50 yards and shot at a target 1000 yards away on a summer day, you would approximately have 234 feet of drop and a T.O.F. of 4.5 seconds.

Braxton

[andyk7string]

With the time lapse sounds like less than 400

[nipplebrady1988]

thats not at 1000 yrds the time lapse would be longer between fireing and hitting i should know i shoot 800yrds with a 6.5 grendle

[GordonALWAYS]

True but there could be issues with the sound like half the videos on here.

[bsrman36]

@GordonALWAYS I've been in the pits several times during matches and this video's sound is very close to what it actually sounds like. You hear that "crack" first then the "bang"

[dustingaunder]

@GordonALWAYS And since it came up before, I'm an electrical engineer with a minor in mathematics. I also work the pits at our local High Power matches as well as shoot long range. I'm more into tactical shooting than bench rest, but it's all the same in the pits.

[PuMbAaArx7]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that the time-lapse of the sound is an issue.... Think about it, the camera is set up right at the target.... the projectile should be going supersonic, meaning that it's gonna tag the paper before the camera hears the report....

[CyaN1de3]

You have obviously not been near the POI at long range. That is the sound of the bullet breaking the sound barrier at the target, not the sound of the rifle going off.

[jedirifleman]

you're being fooled by the sonic crack...listen close...first you hear the crack as the hole appears then you hear the shot later from a distance...

[jedirifleman]

to nipplebrady1988 the camera and mic are at the target cutting the sound return in half since the sound only has to go 1,000 yards to be heard and not down and then back to you at the firing line...you're being fooled by the sonic crack...listen close...first you hear the crack as the hole appears then you hear the shot later from a distance... think before you speak and call someone a liar...you fail miserably at C.S.I. skills

[disturbedone5009]

what you hear is the sonic crack of the bullet as it flies by the target.

[bboyzjimmy1]

nuts! great shooting

[Duckyistrippin]

maybe he doesnt like having holes in his point of aim. when i shoot groups i keep the group high of my point of aim.

[lovshooting]

nicely done. good job. finally we are seeing targets... which in my opinion is how you measure the effectiveness of the whole system... and that includes the shooter. check out "r5 mil-spec". enter that as a search.

[aaaah909]

good work nice grouping. drop your sites a click tho

[ninsquad]

u mean raise... move crosshairs toward impact there genius

[CharlieOscarDeltaOne]

In reply to all of those that booed ninsquads comment.

I found a very simple way to sight in a rifle is to put it on it's rest, Fire a shot, And then (WITHOUT MOVING THE RIFLE)put the crosshairs over the shot. Then adjust the rifle and check the sights again.

It is possible to sight in a rifle in about 3 shots at 100-200 yards doing this.

[tamubig12]

tru dat ive done it

[superstl]

Good consistant shooting. You have a lot of skill. Are you using a benchrest? Grouping wasn't bad at all. You would have to get used to the drop, but a .308 might group better. That is what I use for long range shooting. Also, have you modified the rifle(Glass embedding, trigger work, etc.). Things like that make a major difference in accuracy. The glass embedding helps with harmonics. Just in case you didn't know.

[superstl]

Yeah, roy4461, not to be rude, but it seems you are judging the caliber of the bullet by the size of the hole in the target. The reason the bullet holes look small is because the target is actually between 4 and 5 feet square. So you have to measure the bullet holes to scale. Read the top right corner of the target. It says official 1000 yard target. A 1000 yard target is a very large target when you stand next to it. Hey Tony1KBR, isn't that sound delay awesome.

[Tony1KBR]

Super, the target is 42" square. the White square in the center is 4" and the X ring is 3" in dia.

[jujufishgenz]

Tony how much do you compensate for a 10 mph cross wind? with a 210 gr. and nice shootig!

[Tony1KBR]

jujufish, w/ a 12 mph full value cross wind the 210's will drift 60". If you look real close you'll see the sighter shot (taped over & highlighted) a little high and right.

[Tony1KBR]

roy, You are an idiot! That is a .300 Ackley Magnum shooting .30 Caliber 210 gr. Berger VLD Bullets. The bullets are traveling 1,700 fps when they come across the top of the camera. The pop that is heard is the bullet breaking the sound barrier. If you'll turn up the volume (if you have speakers) you will hear the muzzle report approx. 1.5 seconds after the bullet strikes the target. Your are more than welcome to stand down at the target and witness first hand.

[MrTieDye]

Nice!