Rise in homophobic attacks - Newsnight 27 Oct 2009

[AbsoluteDarbage]

Anne needs to go home to her vibrator

[meetismurder]

Anne Atkins been given a platform to express herself.... A very depressing thing, even though she doesn't have a leg to stand on.

[fibbendz]

Anne Atkins is a blithering idiot.

[heathercawte]

Go for it, Johann! What a star :)))

[cosmodaddy]

Oh I'd forgotten how wonderful this was.

[omapere]

He owns her!

[DannyKuperberg]

Proud to say he's a Woodhouse college alumni.

It's where i teach music.

He turned up there and we had a good debate about the Middle East...

[Kewen]

I love you, Johann Hari.

[FemmeAnonyme]

What I find most uplifting about this video is that Atkins was nervous and skittish the whole way through, even before Johann started calling her up on her ignorant views. It's like she inwardly knew she was wrong and that no reasonable person would ever fall for her crap...

[darkeye79]

Lol she was like a turtle stuck on her back trying to turn over with no sucess

[drumgold23]

Once again Mr Hari rips apart a bastion of bigotry and small-minded prejudice. People like the clearly mental Anne Atkins need to be presented in open debate against intelligent, articulate discoursers like Johann Hari so the world can see their ignorance. Love this guy and all that he does.

[AZJamie1]

Since I came out earlier this year, I've been beaten up four times, two of my teachers called me a faggot, and I'm under constant verbal abuse. I'm seriously considering dropping out, because I just can't handle this shit.

And, not surprisingly, almost all of them were Christian.

[trevortrevortsr2]

@AZJamie1 Really sad to hear this Jamie - don't your schools have rules about discrimination - In UK its zero tollerance - the two teachers that did this to you would have to applogise to you in front of whoever he said it too and if it happened again would be sacked - hang in there it really does get better

[FemmeAnonyme]

@AZJamie1 I'm really sorry you have to deal with this. I'm not going to pretend like I can understand how difficult it is, but please please please try and carry on with school. The best way to win against these idiots is to carry on, get good grades, and show the world that you were brave enough to stand up to these ignorant brutes. Your teachers should not be saying things like that and you should try and take it to the authorities and get them fired. And don't forget you're not alone!

[erin321321]

LMAO! Hari ripped Atkins apart and he did it so effortlessly. Brilliant.

[alexvegas]

I shall take Johann's advice and google it!

[ottopotomas]

Ugh. Listening to Anne Atkins is painful.

[anthonynewsome]

Youth culture over the last 10 years has become conservative uptight boring bland & feeds off the homophobic agenda - youth culture is controlled by a very right-wing agenda - when you see how the world is changing with terrible floods mass unemployment lack of health care hunger extreme poverty education war & yet the single biggest issue for the majority of the world is gays having rights -

[lepolemicist]

Hari eviscerated her.

But he should have pointed out that homos do not simply have a right to have sex, but that homosexuality is not just a form of sex, but a form of love. And it deserves our respect. That is the crux.

[moroney1]

homophobic bullying in school is disgusting

[PurushaDesa]

Oh, so it's not that the religionists don't want gay people having sex. It's that they don't want unmarried people having sex. Well, the more gay people you allow to get married, the more opportunities you have to reduce instances of sex outside marriage. Ah, but you say marriage is exclusively a commitment for heterosexuals only. Say it with me now... SHELL GAME!

[jameswp266]

That women was so awkward once Johann pointed out her horrific views

[relarerfhjk]

I thought the BBC is supposed to be "impartial"...how biased is that woman interviewing the gay guy? She praises ten years of Labour Party legislation which she says is "aimed at bringing about equality"! So the BBC is supports laws like civil partnerships, gay adoption etc, what about the millions of people who oppose these laws and think mariage loses its value if it is no longer just for men and women, and think children deserve to have a Mum AND a dad? Impartial my ass!

[dickyguapo]

Johann Hari is simply brilliant. A young Christopher Hitchens.

[jameswp266]

@dickyguapo i was thinking that myself!! He really is amazingly persuasive, clear, evidence based and independently minded writer.

[coolperson18]

@Experiment47 Well guess what, everyone has the freedom to believe what they want. I think the bible is a load of steaming hot shit, as well as most of people my age in my state. In all, EVERYONE deserves respect.

[Experiment47]

@coolperson18 Of cause it's pile of steaming horse shit, the quote I provided prooves that by itself.

[JackStaplesButler]

@Experiment47 Bronze Age mythology will get us nowhere.

[FemmeAnonyme]

@Experiment47 Ahah! So you're quoting a 2000-year old book of questionable authorship which claims itself to be the word of an all-knowing spirit that orders that we blindly obey it and believe its clearly historically inaccurate information? I stand corrected.

[debrick2490]

The only reason Labour got into powere was to encourage the minorities to vote and these were the ethnics and the queers! If the whole country Had to vote these legislations would never havebeen passed! In todays terms being gay is bordering fashionable and its a backwards step for Humanity to encourage this kind of behavoiurr in the end we might end up devolving into an A-sexual species and end up breeding like fish!

[Experiment47]

@debrick2490 You clearly don't understand how evolution works.

[projectcyclops]

Thank god for people like Johann Hari, he's the real deal and we need more like him.

[MarshCountryErrant]

I wish they could have got someone better than Anne Atkins. Johann Hari's a good debater, but they rarely seem able to line up a left vs a right wing heavyweight who can argue on a level.

[BewareTheBeast]

Killing anyone, other than self defense is wrong. But this attack will seem nothing compared to the time queers will experience in eternal hell. Doesn't bare thinking about.

[nietzschecreature]

Anne Atkins is such a horrible excuse for a human being. Johann Hari is a hero

[RebelStangII]

Praise The LORD!

Once a gain! gay marriage has been Voted Down, in Main, U.S.A. Nov.3.2009

[BradNC11175]

Rebel: Amen to that... Maine aint a bad place for a Yankee State, a damned sight better than the cess pool on it's southern border Massachussettes (or how ever ya spell that liberal shit hole)

[RebelStangII]

(massa chu shits) HaHa!

LONG LIVE THE REBELLION!

[4GooMan]

Those who get out spell it Taxachussetts.

[schrire39]

to all the facists and Nazis out there: We have won the war, we have won society, equality and decency prevail. Come and try take it and make your revoultion...but you will be defeated, the history of the world is a history of your weakness and your defeat. To all the gays out there: Don't go on the defensive, don't defend your right to exist to some Nazis. Let them say what they want- they shall not pass, we shall defeat them.

[BradNC11175]

Waa Waa Waa who gives a shit about the fairy degenerates... let um all drop dead & rot.

[shanefairhead]

Uhmm, Fairy Degenerates? You probably would not be typing this if it was not for a 'degenerate'...Alan Turing was a homosexual, was he not?

[BradNC11175]

Shane: I don't know much about Alan Turing. But if he's a queer hes a piece of low life trash.

[shanefairhead]

Yes, ofcourse he is a 'low life'. I personally, and quite enthusiastically would rather be a 'low life', than uneducated and ignorant.

[BradNC11175]

Shane: It would seem to me at this venture you are going for double jeopardy and well on your way to being both: a low life degenerate and ignorant.

[shanefairhead]

How can this be? You may state a statement but with no evidence to back it up, and in this case it being subjective then I guess that it must in-fact (the statement that is) be mute until proven other-wise.

[shanefairhead]

Oh, and Alan Turing is generally the father of the modern computer.

[punkmanjon]

Methinks the lady doth protest too much. If you dislike gay people because they are gay then you are one of two things. Biggoted or stupid. Possibly both. There is no place for such ignorance in modern day society and YOU (the ignorant biggots) are in the minority. Your hatred is fed by fear. Fear of difference and an inability to accept it. Its really quite pathetically childish. Please explain to me how someone elses sex life has any effect on your life?

[BradNC11175]

Punk: It should be nobody's business what you, I or anyone does in their spare time and in private. Speaking for myself, gays have no need to worry about any violence or hatred from me untill they try to force their lifestyle and what I see as immoral upon me and/or others who do not welcome it. If someone has an act of violence committed against them they should receive justice. The guilty should be punished swiftly and harshly for an unprovoked assault, race/sexual pref. should be non factors.

[4GooMan]

Brad: The real danger to a society is when this abberant behavior is promoted as "normal".

[BradNC11175]

4GooMan: I couldn't say it better myself. Why not allow incest and necrophilia and pedophilia (with parental consent) and every other perversion as "normal behavior" if homosexuality is to be considered "normal"? One is no better than the other. They are all the works of those with weak constitutions and less than rational and immoral individuals.

[EuanTheBold]

for starters incest causes genetic mutations in the children born from it. in the case of necrophilia its non concenting (pretty hard if your dead). pedophilia again is non concenting and if it is its because the child is just a child and is easiy manipulated. but in the case of homosexuality the only problem is that it makes cunts like you think they're 'normal'.

[BradNC11175]

EuanTheBold: There is nothing normal about a man who is sexually attracted to another man and homosexuality is no better than any of the other mentioned perversions. Do what you want but behind closed doors and keep it to yourself because decent people don't want to hear about it or see it.

[BradNC11175]

EuanTheBold: considering who you affiliate yourself with I do not concern myself with your views of morality and decency. Clearly you know nothing of either.

[punkmanjon]

Ah but you see theres the problem. What if gay people objected to you displaying your heterosexuality in public and pushing your straight lifestyle down our throats (there could easily be an argument made for that given the proliferation of straight culture in the media). Would you think it was reasonable for us to complain about men and women kissing in public? I doubt it so unless you believe that democracy simply means majority rule (it doesnt) your just making excuses.

[BradNC11175]

Punk: what a silly argument there. Heterosexuality is normal and it's natural. Homosexuality is nothing more than a perversion. When the majority cast a vote and it is upheld that is democracy.

[punkmanjon]

Obviosuly you have no understanding of either politics or psychology. Im bored of arguing with you. Enjoy your ignorance.

[BradNC11175]

Punk: Whats the matter? Go listen to some Elton John and have a drink with the little umbrella in it and you'll feel better ya little queer ha ha! Psychology is right up there with professional gambling and prostitution in terms of being a usefull and respectable profession. And clearly your understanding of democracy is as confused as your understanding of human reproductive organs and their function/purpouse. Now go watch Will & Grace while intelligent & decent people converse.

[punkmanjon]

Jeez are those the best cliches you can come up with? elton John and will and grace? If I thought It would make any difference I would explain that there are some gay guys who live heavy metal and zombie movies (me for example) but I scarecely see the point as you seem to be desperate to denigrate my intellect. I would also mention I have a Masters degree but you appear not to accept this as any measure of intelligence. Good Luck to you.

[BradNC11175]

Punk: To tell you the truth, no your having a master's degree doesn't impress me in the least. Nore does your tastes in music and cinema. Have a good day.

[punkmanjon]

Same to you. Lost cause doesnt even cover it.

[BradNC11175]

Punk: So I am a lost cause? And what pray tell would make me a lost cause?

[punkmanjon]

Im not getting into this. We disagree fundamentally about almost everything and I cant be arsed trying to change your mind/reason with you. End of convo. Bye.

[4GooMan]

Brad: Now that's no way to talk to a man with an advanced degree. Masters in Masturbation wasn't it? Amazing what 6 years of pulling on one's plonker can accomplish. Must be the horror flicks that gets him going as he seeks a Doctorate. Doctor Demento, prince of the perverts.

[BradNC11175]

4GooMan: to much exposure to black powder demolitions, diesle fuel and direct sunlight today have left me with "dain brimage" this evening I am affraid. But, I have seen the inside of to many class rooms, I have debated and discussed with far to many "know it all college boys" to be impressed in the slightest with a mere piece of paper hanging from one's wall. Does a Masters Degree immediately qualify one as an expert? I see these "experts" on CNN, BBC & FOX News, expert is an homonym for idiot.

[EuanTheBold]

forcing their lifestyle on you?

they're not going to stick their cock in your ass untill your ok with it. they just want to not be victimised and assaulted.

weather you like it or not race/sexual preference will probably always be a factor and its mentality like yours that will cause it.

[BradNC11175]

EuanTheBold: and how does a mentality like mine cause another to become a looser or a pathetic little degenerate?

[RebelStangII]

Howdy! Main Shot the faggot issue Down!

It's a Great Day in America!

[shanefairhead]

Again, it certainly did not help your spelling. I think you should leave this debate to the more intelligent of the conservatives...Yes, they do exist.

[RebelStangII]

wOW you must be so bright, That all you can do is complain about some funny spelling. Seeing how ya like all those funny boys. This is youtube!

Not a spelling be! Now go play with your ken dolls. or do you like barbie better?

[BradNC11175]

Rebel: When these "elitist snobs prey on a mere gramatical error you should consider it a compliment as it is clear evidence they have no sound counter argument to the point you made. It helps them to feel superior and enables them to rest more easily at night in thinking they actually got some benefit out of Liberal Indoctrination Program otherwise known as "higher education". Granted, their spelling may be better but I am rarely as impressed with the intellect of the elitist as they are.

[RebelStangII]

Ya Got That Right!

It's a Savage Nation!

liberalism, is a Mental Disorder!

[BradNC11175]

Reb: Be it a mental disorder like insanity or some forms of retardation. Or be it a disease contracted via contact with unclean/immoral degenerates like the clap or genital warts, regardless it's equally disturbing and nausiating.

[4GooMan]

Brad: It begins with lust. It's hold strengthens when the line is crossed to act upon the lust. Continued deviance makes it an addiction. True perversion is reached when it becomes a "lifestyle". Once it becomes "normal" and pronounced, it causes the society to become a candidate for the judgement imposed upon Sodom and Gomorrah.

[punkmanjon]

Its begins with ignorance, belief in beings which cannot possibly exist (i.e God). Continued faith makes it an addiction to unreasonable ideas. True hatred is reached when i becomes a lifestyle. Once your hate becomes normal and pronounced due to your illogical and dangerous faith in a non existant entity is causes society to become intolerant to individuals right to live their own lives in whatever manner they please. Judge ye not lest ye be judged, isnt that what it says in your Bible?

[BradNC11175]

Punk: I can not produce to you factual evidence that God exists. But what is your undeniable evidence that He does not exist? You have no more proof of His lack of existance than I do of His existance.

[BradNC11175]

4GooMan: As a Christian I could not agree more with you upon your Sodom & Gomorrah point. As a Christian, the input of God must be considered an open and shut case. But, sadly the counsel and view of God is regarded less & less in the modern world and the results are quite obvious, much as those same results were obvious to Lott in Sodom & Gomorrah. In time the results will be the same more or less.

[EuanTheBold]

they dont all wear nipple tassles and hot pants you know.

[punkmanjon]

It genetic. Its been proven by scientists several times now that there is a gay gene.

[4GooMan]

What, do tell, it the nomenclature for this gene?

[EuanTheBold]

you need to take the bible less seriously. it is supposed to be a metaphor you know.

and as for disturbing and nausiating? step into a 'liberal's' shoes and look at yourself.

[4GooMan]

Dr. Savage rules! Smear the queer!

[RebelStangII]

That Sais It ALL! GET"R"DONE & HAVE FUN! & tAZE 'IM, WHILE THIER GETTING A gOOD sMASHING!

[shanefairhead]

But, It was not an argument it was a statement, with a fallacy in its first propostition. You are clearly induced with the Post-Modernist syndrome you claim to be fighting.

[BradNC11175]

Shane: OK, enough of the he said/she said. Is it safe to assume that in your view, the only way one could be opposed to the homosexual life style in this modern age is if that person was a backwards, ignorant fool who could not make a rational argument to support their view? This seems to be your mentality here and if so you are incorrect in your ASSUMPTION. Is it impossible for you to consider that reasonable, intelligent & common sense people consider homosexuality as disgusting immorality?

[shanefairhead]

Oh, ofcourse not as I stated before there are many people of conservative, or even anti-homosexual agreements that are intelligent etc... I was actually stating that you do not oppose a 'lifestyle' with violence because you yourself do not like it.

[EuanTheBold]

i challenge you to say that face to face to any gay man on the planet and not feel like a cunt after.

then again i wouldn't be supprised if you succeeded.....

you really need to stop assuming steriotypes are solid fact.

[deabrat]

finally this is on the news.

[princecharlesansooty]

Gays are not the problem the Muslim invasion is. Lets get into the 21st century. Vote BNP - but leave the bloody guys alone, they do not pose a risk to the UK.

[jg5912]

@010110102

I see!! You're a BNP supporter! Speaks volumes, that...

[010110102]

thanks i like to be recognised for my good work

[ravcuk]

come on admit your just a repressed gay ;) we all know it

[010110102]

well im clearly not or else i wouldnt be saying things against gays. i made the right choice in life to be straight and will never change it

[ravcuk]

Ah but you find repressed gays do regularly attack the gay community ;)

As for making the right choice... there is no such thing as a choice just like being born with different coloured skin that you can't change many people are born with differing sexualities that can't be changed.

Again your repression is most amusing ;)

[Anglosaxonheadcharge]

Are you one of theses people that feels its right to teach children about homosexuality?

Just a question I am in no way looking for an argument here, I have nothing against these people, but I do see something perversely wrong with force feeding it to children. Guess what I am trying to say is that maybe making it so mainstream is not the best way to go and maybe thats why this crime is on the rise. To be fair its not the Norm and should not be treated as such.

[ravcuk]

A lot of things that are the 'norm' now weren't always.. times change, society changes.

As for teaching kids in school yes they should be taught about different sexualities. Or are you saying we should just hide it? It's part of life and therefore they should know about it.

[ravcuk]

I don't see peoples issues with it being taught, it's certainly not going to 'turn' kids. They are born with their sexuality they aren't suddenly going to choose to change it after having a lesson on something. As for homosexuality not being the 'norm' you should do some research on human history it's been around for a very, very long time.

It is also prevalent in nature in regards to other species.

It should be taught to people at an early stage as that is what will help to reduce hate crimes.

[ravcuk]

At the end of the day these crimes happen due to fear, stereotyping, ignorance

[Anglosaxonheadcharge]

So you believe teaching a child as young as five about gay sex is a good thing!

I am speechless for once. These children aren't even of the age to read Biff, Chip and Kipper and yet the government finds a spare £600k to teach them this! And people like you think its right. They have a lifetime in front of them to learn about such things.

[miekhead]

Not sex, but that it's possible for a man to want to spend his like with another man. You say a lifetime to learn...but like me, I'd want children to understand that if they get feelings for the same sex, they dont have to resort to a frigging dictionary or ring samaritans to see if it exists or if it's ok.

[4GooMan]

If a person is born that way, you should have no trouble telling us which gene is responsible. If you can't, then you are forced to admit it's a perversion.

[4GooMan]

010110102: I see you have angered the faggot horde. Just can't face the fact that they're deviant, can they?

[4GooMan]

jp: You should read a few volumes. You just might learn something. A young lad like you needs to know somewhat of the glorious history of the UK. Then you will be able to see the error of your way.

[RebelStangII]

Howdy!

It's a Great Day , in America!

The faggot issue, got shot Down! Again!

[EuanTheBold]

HURRAY! a minority got shot down by a nation which doesn't even know the true meaning of the bible :)

[TrailersAndTrash]

Anyone on this thread using it as an anti-gay forum needs to go and look at themselves.

[shanefairhead]

I totally agree with you :D

[james7696739]

Ann Atkins, nice lady but completely incoherent here.

[010110102]

who cares about faggots? if they want to be gay, they want to be victimised, its their choice and they should suffer the consequences

[motherpantha]

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[010110102]

????

[shanefairhead]

Yes, do shut up. If you want to be an idiot, and a fool, then you want to be victimised...no?

[010110102]

idiot? like not wanting cock up my shitter? have a good think and try again

[jg5912]

What a bizzare person you are! I cannot honestly work out what other people do in bed has to do with you? Maybe you're just a cunt??

[010110102]

im not a cunt, but i wouldnt mind a lover with one. just natures way you know

[shanefairhead]

Nature's way? Hm...Lets not get into the whole nature debate, its quite frankly passed its self-by date. I personally find homosexual penguins quite a good example of "nature's way".

[shanefairhead]

Oh, I forgotten to mention. No, you are not a "cunt", that would be too nice of a word for you, DARLINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG...

[010110102]

can you stop calling me darling you immature little prick

[shanefairhead]

No, Im afraid I will not, Darling ;).

[slowfastgirlx]

Its doesn't matter what your preferences are regarding your personal sexual practice. Its your business alone. No decent person is going to condemn you for being gay

[shanefairhead]

But sexual practice has little to do with homosexuality, ofcourse it has a role but so do love, and happiness.

[shanefairhead]

Oh, Darling! What a pathetic reply. Im sure you haven't heard of the research but I will explain it to you in simple English, on average homophobic people are most likely to get aroused by stimuli of a homosexual nature. Its self-evident that you must find it some-what pleasing to describe homosexual sex....hmmm...

Have you ever heard of love? or mutual respect? I take it you have not because you seem to assert that all homosexuality is about, is sex....Well all I can say is get over yourself.

[010110102]

love is what draws a man and woman together, and dont waste my time with thishomophobes are gay, i dont find it pleasing to mention gay sex, i think its so wrong its funny. and with penguins, unless you made that up, i dont want to know how you know

[ibbz]

Homophobic attacks will ALWAYS happen - regardless of whether homosexuality is promoted or covered up.

[ibbz]

However promoting homosexuality isn't the cure - as a huge amount of people are from religious groups who consider homosexuality to be sinful - as sinful as say - sex before marriage, or as "wrong" in many views, as Underage Sex - so to tell them that it's "ok" isn't going to wash!

[ibbz]

We also have a machismo culture, this culture exists worldwide - where to be a passive partner equals a lack of manliness, and a lack of manliness equates to having a lesser amount of self respect and thus means others will show less respect.

It persists in as many countries as I have ever visited.

In some countries, a male who 'takes it' is considered appropriate to a loose female - and shown as much respect - and this manifests itself in "Homophobic" abuse - whether physical or verbal.

[shanefairhead]

You sound as if you are implying that the ideal/and or concept of masculine superiority is some-how correct due to the unsupported idea that it is a wordly concept and then therefore it is ok and perfectly acceptable to use this concept to fight, and kill those of whom find the whole idea of masculinity pathetic and quite frankly "a stamp of our lowly origins" - to quote darwin.

[shanefairhead]

Its hilarious how people give me bad feedback, but not one coherent argument.

[shanefairhead]

Do they suppport slavery aswell ? Well, the Bible and the Qu'ran seem to support it, so why don't the people whom get their morality from a holy book? Hmm...

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.

[ibbz]

AND on top of that, we have faaaar too much exposure of kids to sex, violence and things - there was perhaps a time when childhood represented innocence and kids believed all manner of things - these days, kids are taught about sex and sexual things, these things help to DESTROY the innocence which should go hand in hand with childhood, and these sex education to pre teens, in my opinion, fuels such things as under age sex and sexual promiscuity in young people.j

[shanefairhead]

Again you put across a myth, the idea of childhood innocence which is clearly a lie. Children of the 1800's were subjected from around the age of 6 to some of the most awful events in any possible life today, they were force to work in dust-covered factors, and toxic mines, they didn't have time for your pathetic concept of childhood innocence. So, where in this world does your idea of dominating, and quite frankly pseudo-christian moralistic ideas come from? If not from reality?

[NatDemUK]

Yes, and we outlawed child labour but that is no excuse to promote unnatural lifestyles to young children nor sex education nor especially masturbation which the UN declared.

[motherpantha]

Oh dear .... I think NatDemUK has revealed more about his sense of self and sexuality than he realises. Just keep baking those apple pies hun

[shanefairhead]

What a hilarious, and quite frankly lovely reply :P

[NatDemUK]

Why don't you just shut up mate!

[gcoupe1]

Thank you, Johann Hari for a bit of light and honest truth about the subject. Unlike Anne Atkins and, evidently, NatDemUK.

[NatDemUK]

The reason why there is more homophobia is because of more promotion of homosexuality. Johann needs to get his PC facts right- homosexuality is not a race, it is a preference a behaviour. Christianity condemns incest, polyamory or zoophilia and alcoholism. Sticking a man's penis in another man's arse is detestable as it would in an animal's arse or vulva. What next- shall we promote those lifestyles as well? No.

[shanefairhead]

What a silly comment - "The reason why there is more homophobia is because of more promotion of homosexuality". This proposition is false, you link many possible reasons for homophobia into one single idea, that of promotion of a "behaviour". As you should know homosexuality is an innate attraction on the part of one male, to another, or female to another female. This has nothing to do with behaviour, but with deeply embedded psychological feats.

[NatDemUK]

Behaviour is part of psychology and homosexuality is a preference, it is not a race. Just like incest, polyamory, zoosexuality and alcholism- those four are all psychological features, shall we promote them as well if someone gets attacked for being one of them? No. If there were none of this promotion of gay clubs, gay films, gay "marriage" or gay "adoption" and that it were kept in private, there would be none of this madness.

[zaaaaazzzzz]

Anne Atkins, who I find quite engaging and sincere, unfortunately gives the green light for homophobic attacks. The woman is quite clearly out of her cozy spiritual comfort zone. The inherent EVIL within this situation is that she is pupporting to speak with 'authority'