Martial Arts Odyssey: Training With Shan State Army (Part 1)

[Khmer96pride]

realy intersting video , I heard the shan state going to be defeated.

[brooklynmonk1]

@Khmer96pride Let's hope not.

[maukbao]

I think asep5 is the Burmese general' son

-brook...- . Just  want to know where he father is... I am going to asking him to do some bl.. job n get rid of him..

[Popsicle22754]

Is the SSA looking for aid from foreign military type from what you have seen in your tour over there or are they being self relient on themselves.

[kasunator]

Dear Brooklnynmonk

I admire ur concern about the Shan people & their rites. But u should see and understand this issue in a broader context. The western governments use these ethnic issues for their interests. While I dont agree that the junta is made out of the best chaps in town, an interventionist approach in favour of separatist rebels will make any thing good for all the Burmese people. There r invisible plots to destabilize countries by world superpowers to maintain control over them.

[kasunator]

And the west tries to decay their culture by converting them into Christianity( remove the old culture and reprogram a favourable new one). No wonder the Karen have so much support from the west(karens have a high conversion rate). This cultural intervention by the west backfired on them in Vietnam(thing started to go wrong with Americans installing a Christian prime minister).please note that I dont have any issues with the Christian the religion or culture.

[brooklynmonk1]

No, no major western govenrment, power or missionary group has gone there in decades. if by "them" you mean the shan, they are solidly Buddhist, nearly 100% of them. the major cultural influence is from Thailand, not the west. actually America didnt instal christianity in vietnam, it was France. and it wasnt protestantism, it was catholicism. but that isnt why the war happened. How could you possibly so misinformed?

[kasunator]

it's not a matter of protestantism or catholicism.. it a matter of influence.. they can make influence the best when there are more differences between people. the americans had a propaganda campaigne "virgin marry heads south" to attract catholics from the north to the south ,in order to reinforce the support for the puppet prime minister.

[kasunator]

ok.. Shan may be buddhist but there are still differences that can be exploited for influence. what i'm trying to say is that shun may have a genuine courese but it shouldn't be exploited by super powers, yes superpowers cannot afford to influence directly, thats why they r trying to create puppets to get there jobs done.

[brooklynmonk1]

So you were wrong about teh religion and you were wrong about the western powers. it is amazing inside of one hour you recanted half of what you said. now lets work on the other half. specifically which puppets are western powers creating? and specifical;ly which western powers are we talking about?

[kasunator]

no i'm not wrong about the religion issue, i pointed it out with regard to the Karen ethnic group,it seems u don't understand my points.

the puppets are created at their wish, the Shans can be used as puppets with interventionist intentions to counter balance the chinas influence in burma.

ok answer me with this:- didn't the americans played the religion card in early days of american involvement in vietnam???

[brooklynmonk1]

The karen were not made christian by the americans. they were made christian by the british. but thechristians are the ones fighting for democracy and independence, not the buddhist karen who are drug runners.

[brooklynmonk1]

No, as a matter of fact the only catholic president of US was assasinated, so there was no religious card to play. the catholics set up their own armies, as did the cao dai and hoa hao because they were against the communists and this had nothing to do with the americans or any western power. many of them were anti western also.

[kasunator]

i'm not arguing about the political status of the catholics in american society,the americans did have a campaign to use the catholics for their interest, to build a support base for the pro american Ngo Diem's government, a democratic election at that time would have been in favour of the communists.

what do you think that makes buddhist karen drug runners and christian ones freedom fighters??

how did you cross the border?? i'm sure u did it the illegal way.....

[brooklynmonk1]

the buddist karen armed faction works for spdc i think this because everyone who knows about burma knows this. they are a proxy army for spdc. how do yuo not know that? you dont seem to have ever been to or researched the places you have so many opinions about.

[kasunator]

i asked about the social and political reasons for the buddhist karen to become drug runners, it seems u are good at labeling them,

and we can see clearly whose the proxy of whose

[brooklynmonk1]

since you obviously know absolutely nothing about this war, the buddhist karen faction is called The Democratic Karen Buddhist Army (DKBA) and they are OFFICIALLY that means they say it, i say it, SPDC says, everyone agrees (except you) they are officially classified as a ceasefire army, which, by definition, means they are still under arms but are not fighting the SPDC. they work for the SPDC.

[brooklynmonk1]

This group was reportedly given territory inside of Burma to rule over in exchange. according to ALL news sources "They played a significant part in the capture of Manerplaw, a rebel Karen stronghold headquarter." you can and should look it up

[kasunator]

I.E it should be rights not rites.. please forgive me...thank u

[brooklynmonk1]

the shan havent chnaged religions and i work with shan and this video is about shan. once again, which western power is using the shan as puppets? to my knowledge, and i have spent years working on both sides of the border, there is no significant involvent of ANY western power with the Shan.

[XXM1T90XX]

Hey did CIA, USA, UK, France, & Singapore trained KNU, ALP, CNF, KNO, KNPP, & SSA?

[XXM1T90XX]

Also thank you for training SSA? Also why not ask US veterans of Green Berets or Army Rangers to trained SSA, KNU, ALP, CNF, KNO, & KNPP. Also ask talk to people that are arms dealer. Also supply Military Camouflage like Woodland MARPAT, Multicam, CADPAT (Canada), SAF Woodland Digital Camouflage (Singapore), RTA Digital Woodland (Thailand), & SEDENA Type B (Mexico) to 6 group. Also tell all 6 group to dig up for Rubies so they could buy weapons form arms dealer who land down a Russian IL-76.

[XXM1T90XX]

Also trained also 6 group them to become a modern army like US Army/Marines. You know supply them Army knee/elbow pads, Dragon skin body army, MICH TC-2000 Combat Helmet, Combat boots, Boonie hat, patrol cap, an/pvs-14 Night Vision device, USMC Lightweight Helmet, PASGT Helmet, & M-1965 field jacket. Also weapons like M16A4, M4 SOPMOD I/II, M240L, M249, M107 Barrett Rifle, AT4, M67 Grenade, RPG-7, AK-47, AK-74, PKM, RPK, DSHK, M2-HB, FIM-92 Stinger, SA-16/18, & other weapons.

[brooklynmonk1]

No, sadly there is not even one major super power involved in Burma. if US, UN or even Uk would step up they could help release Aung San Suu Kyi from prison and organize elections. But they havent. you are very confused about the issue.

[admirer66]

Just ignore asep5 Antonio. He's just an agitator because he knows everyone hates the Burmese Junta. There are good Burmese people but asep5 is not one of them. Some bad ones use the internet to annoy everyone.

[brooklynmonk1]

thanks for your support, but i stil want to find him and hit him a lot and film it for youtube. asep5 even said he supported the raope of tribal women by SPDC forces.

[brooklynmonk1]

If anyone knows how to hack an account and find out where Asep5 is located, and or who he is, please let me know.

[asep5]

wtf u freakin freak!!

[brooklynmonk1]

Thanks for sending me asep5 IP address. now i just need the name and physical address.

[asep5]

i'm here to get my degree dumbass

i'm going to west point and then go train in burma

hoping one day i'll make it to brig. even Lt. if possible

[brooklynmonk1]

could you stop calling me dumb ass? are you a student at West Point right now? which congressman recommended you? whats your real name?

[lagook]

i hope you never make it mate

dont need another anti-interventionalist military commander

[asep5]

lol

who knows we mite need one to expand burma

maybe east?i

[brooklynmonk1]

could you please give me your real name and tell me if you are west point now. also the name of the congressman who recommended you.

[lagook]

the hopyfully there is an interventionist goverment in the us and the rest of the world and they finally decide that its time for the junta to go

infact go for it expansionist agenda would do you well, sorta like hitler opening another front...

martial artist study martial science, this often means military strat

im no expert but im sure you could win a war with thailand... go for it

[brooklynmonk1]

lagook, the guy asep5 is a coward. my name, email, face and location are all public information. i am not hiding. ASEP5 is clearly burmese but hiding in USA. he is benefiting from the freedom and safety my country gives him while supporting a genocide in his home country, which he fled. i have repeadtedly asked for his real name and location so we can finish this, but he a scared little punk and refuses to tell me.

[asep5]

lol i'm not gonna be like hitler

i won't fail and commit suicide

i will prepare my self for a war with america

for that i'll use gurilla tactics that americans can't stand

[lagook]

lol and here you said you were training at west point....

TROLL ALERT HAHAHA

i grow tired of your childish antics

please leave our presence

[brooklynmonk1]

If you go to west piont you probably dont want to tell them that you plan to make war with america. i really wish i could find you. you are a coward, you will never be or do anything with yuor life. fight me if you are man.

[asep5]

its call total war dumbass

end of dicussion i'm tired of talking with dumbasses

[brooklynmonk1]

yes it is called total war but your not supposed to gang rape young girls or burn whole villages full of civillians. am i really a dumb ass for believing that?

[brooklynmonk1]

just curious, why do you live in USA if you support the SPDC? shouldn t you be in burma if burma is so great? does it bother you in america that people have human rights?

[asep5]

thats the only thing that i don't agree with the spdc

but i think the shan and karen must surrender their arms and join in as a state

[brooklynmonk1]

they cant. you know that SPDC commits gang rape and burns their villages. they are defending themselves as best they can until the UN hopefully helps them.

[asep5]

she's a very intellegent woman i met her when i was 11

she came to my grandfather's for dinner

[brooklynmonk1]

so why do you want to kill the ethnic people in burma? and why does SPDC keep her in detention?

[asep5]

they're trying secede from the nation

they're that one that built an armed organization and started all this shit

well now they're all in thailand prostituting themselves ha ha ha

[brooklynmonk1]

the government refuses them a passport, rights of citizenship or the right to vote. burma arrested aung san su chii after she won the popular election. the shan formed an army to defend themselves and get freedom. that isnt wrong. seriously how can you support the SPDC they are so evil.

[brooklynmonk1]

just curious, what do you think about Aung san Suu Chi?

[asep5]

wtf spdc !! he's gonna pwn ssa lol:)

[brooklynmonk1]

i dont really understand, why would you want to kill innocent shan civilians: women, children, and old people. that is what SPDC does. why do you support that?

[asep5]

fucking dumbass

my uncle is going to be a brig gen. next month

he'll leave for shan state in agust

i hope they get pwnd by uncle

[brooklynmonk1]

which army is your uncle a brig general? you mean in SPDC or in SSA? SSA actually doesnt have generals.

[CaptainAmerica322]

Those guy's are bad asses. I lived in Thailand for years, I know the Burmese Gov. needs to go. Is there any PMC's that is operating against them in Burma? I'd love info if there are any.

[fatcat669]

haha awesome video see u in the jungle 2012

[asep5]

lol my eyes mite burn from seeing ur face ha ha ugly ass shan loving bitch

[brooklynmonk1]

Yes, i agree, the genocide is terrible and i pray, as you do, that the shan will win and the race will survive. thank you for your continued support.

[brooklynmonk1]

i have met a lot of people and none of them suffered eye damage. so perhaps you could also meet me and it wouldnt hurt yoru eyes. but what is the real reason for your agression? also, i am not a bitch, bitch is a female. i am male.

[asep5]

lol good then let them fight to their extinction

spdc is kicking their ass anyways

[brooklynmonk1]

seriously, what is wrong with you? you write lol when you talk about people getting killed. i was wondering, could we meet? i would love to hear you speak face-to-face.

[tunderman66]

He just want to kill himself

[asep5]

the shan are the ones that declared their indepence first lol dipshits with their funny language

[brooklynmonk1]

Historically, and i am sure you have read the history extensively, Shan State was never completely part of Burma. even under the British they were a autonomous. they were ruled by the Shan princes.

[asep5]

kalayleh lol do u think the burmese army started all this shit?? the shan are the ones who started it they declared their shitty independence lol and ur rite burmese gov does kick ass lol lets hope the exterminate all fucking shan with their funny accents

[brooklynmonk1]

actually the burmese government did start this. you could read a basic history of the burma conflict on the internet or i could recommend some books. it really wouldnt be nice to wish all of my friends dead because of their accept.

[asep5]

dude wat u doing in a rebel camp??

u know u can be excecuted for that??

Shan and Karen people are enemines of thatmadaw and they will not stand a chance. lol the burmese army numbers more than half a million men now. They gonna start using russian weapons instead of crappy chinese shit . and destroy camps like those

[klayehklay]

yo! don't say that! karen and shan are not rebel at all...u don't even know those people and i will explain to u....those people are fighting for there freedom...i think u like burmese government huh?

they're gonna kick your ass........!..

[brooklynmonk1]

Obviously i support the shan and karen. i would fight or die for them. we also need to pray for the rohingas and all of the ethnic minorities in Burma.

[Assassin0311]

I appreciated you putting all this stuff on the internet. What's the different between Khmer boxing, Muay Lao and Muay Thai? Is the Bokator the older version of all these arts? Thanks!

[brooklynmonk1]

khmer boxing (bradal serey) muay lao and muay thai are all the same. yes, bokator is the oldest one, the origin of all the others.

[abulabaz]

I think that what he meant by full of shit and what I know I mean by full of shit is you training them for combat.

How does being a martial artist translate to combat instructor?

I think the cause is good but everything relating to training in that video was sad.

I've studied insurgency and counter insurgency strategy and tactics for 25 years and would be uncomfortable in that position.

Kind of looks like the old "In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king."

[brooklynmonk1]

thanks. i hope you can come over and help us train. can you come to help the hmong in lao or the shan in burma?

[abulabaz]

What can anybody do for the Hmong? We lost = they lost.

If there was something I could be useful for as far as the Burmese hill folks go, I would come help.

[brooklynmonk1]

thanks, i appreciate what you are saying. actually there are hmong still in the jungle in lao and they need medical attention. for the hill tribes, there is tons that you can do. send me email and i will connect you with some reputable aid organizations

[lamesurfer101]

Incredible Work! You've gone were few ring fighters would.

[muqalisubutai]

full of shit

[brooklynmonk1]

which part of my video is full of shit? the part about burma, the war, genocide? please tell me. "full of shit" wasnt quite enough information. You may be right, but i am not sure what you were referring to.

antonio graceffo

[grindstedlife]

great job ..

[ryubolo13]

Hello Antonio,just wanted to let you know I have nothing but respect for you and these brave souls fighting for freedom and liberty against those who oppress their fellow man.

I have a question. Do the Shan and Karen (or any other rebel forces in Burma)communicate with each other, or do they fight the SPDC on their own?

Regards and prayers from Texas, good luck and Godspeed.

[brooklynmonk1]

thanks for the comment and support. the karen, shan and other do communicate. but, they are in different states, shan state and karen state respectively, so there isnt too much they can do, but they share intelligence and training sometimes.

[brooklynmonk1]

there are two separate, but related, struggles in burma. all burmese are having their human right villated and are denied a democracy. but in the tribal areas there is genocide. just this year, more than 2,000 tribal people have been murdered by SPDC. This is not true of ethnic Burmans, only of ethnics, like the shan and karen.

[brooklynmonk1]

Khun sa is dead, read the papers. col. Yawd Serk is the leader now, and the intent is to separate shanland as a separate country and yo give freedom to all ethnics within shan state.

[redhelldevil]

wtf!??

it is not an ethnic war like burmese against other nations in the country!!! it is a war between military junta and people who love democracy. yea true burmese are majority and they are the people suffering the most from this reign and sacrificing the most to get free from this.

[redhelldevil]

plus SSA was born with not right will or intention for its own Shan people and land but with worst and most selfishness reason for a man named Khun Sa, one of the most wanted drug dealers in the world.

ps: i have shan blood by the way.

[nicky666]

They speak Thai

[kyawzehtun]

No, they speak their own Shan language just some words are similar same but all are totally different.

[alifshinobi]

kyawzehtun, Shan(known as Tai-yai in Thailand) and Thai are from the same language family--Tai-kadai.

[scottcundill]

Good work man. Just read MFB and I think the fact that you are bold enough to take the next step and become an investigative journalist x 10 in places like this is commendable. I'll tell others.

[Kalydosos]

Brooklynmonk my expertise is not South East Asia apart from the vietnam war I know have studied African history and a little latin American and European history. I found the video informative I had know idea about this struggle in Burma. The Shan martial arts look pretty good to me if? Your intentions are honourable I wish you luck with your efforts.

[brooklynmonk1]

I cant believe it, thi guy Urqiqi who obviously works for SPDC sent me a million terrible emails. now he has closed his youtube account. the world is a wierd place. i am trying to help the shan the best way i know how, as a journalist and film guy and now i am in philippines studying emergency medical technician so i can help more in burma. i am doing what i can. please forgive me if it is not enough.

[melapapi]

Antonio, I hope you are doing well. Will you explain what the acronym "SPDC" mean? and in what ways may I help the people of the Shan state? I would love to help these people too.

[brooklynmonk1]

SPDC is a euphamism it stands for state Peace and Development councile which is what teh junta calls its army.

[dirtyfighter34]

Met you in the Philippines with Mel Tortal. I'm glad to get a chance to see you videos. Ignore the morons on her criticizing what you do. You're doing something others are afraid to do, and that's make it real. I'll look forward to seeing your videos you made in the Philippines. Keep up the good fight, and bring as much hell to the Burmese government as you can. 

All the best,

Steven

[urqiqi]

US people and their goverment should stop thinking like that anymore ,

it's burma and their own problem , leave it to them ,

[brooklynmonk1]

go screw yourself. do you work for the spdc? what if that was your family being murdered? what an uncarring unthinking miserable human being you must be. any time you want to get in a boxing ring with me, i am waiting.

antonio graceffo the monk from brooklyn

[urqiqi]

go fuck yourself okay ? stop sending nonsense to my mailbox alright . do your family being murdered ? stop your big talking and ring fighting stuff , if you want to be a hero learn from rambo, you youtube crying coward loser.

[brooklynmonk1]

sorry i am an educated native speaker of english so i dont quite understand what you have written here. once again, if that was your family being murdered would you want someone to come help?

check a dictionary before replying.

[urqiqi]

sorry but i speak with brain. i didn't see any wrong in the logic, if you can't understand check with your doctor for your brain. you got no family murder and you are not from shan state. instead of speaking nonsense and thinking everyone else don't speak english you should donate some money to the suffering burma people and stop offering your fight and naive comments. get a life, retard

[brooklynmonk1]

the grammatical errors that make you look like a complete mook in (). i speak with (my or the) brain. i didn't see any (anything) wrong in the logic,

[brooklynmonk1]

you should donate some money to the suffering burma people and stop offering your (offering to fight) fight and naive comments ( offering and naïve, one is a verb and one is an adjective so they shouldn't be linked in the same clause with and). get a life, retard

[urqiqi]

yeah thank you , i can use you as my word spelling checking machine

i haven't meet anyone who's so stupid

all you can talk is silly threat and "offer to fighting" or your nerdy word attck

i really shouldn't so much time on you, you don't worth any my fucking time

[brooklynmonk1]

i asked before: do you work for SPDC? you said foreigners shouldnt help the Shan but you want us to donate to the cyclone relief. this is very suspicious. just answer the question, do you work for SPDC? and why wont you fight me?

[urqiqi]

I don't answer stupid question, I am sorry .

And your simple mind could only find this suspicious thing? Try harder.

Why do you have a big mouth just keep asking question ? You tell me you speak 9 languages , and why use nine to say hi to your mom ? Why why why ?

[brooklynmonk1]

if you can't understand check with your doctor for your brain (probably it would be better to say check about your brain or have your brain checked). you got no family murder (your family hasn't been murdered or you don't have any family who was murdered). and you are not from shan state. instead of speaking nonsense and thinking everyone else don't (doesn't) speak english

[brooklynmonk1]

I am on a list with a number of aid organizations waiting to go into burma as an emergency medical technician to aid the cyclone survivors. why do you support foreign intervntion in the cyclone but not in the genocide? the gnocide has killed more people than the cyclone

[asep5]

wow u got some issues buddy

this will be my last comment

before u stalk me lol

[brooklynmonk1]

you support genocide and rape. you said you wouldnt make the same mistakes as hitler. i dont have issues, you do. also

why wont you meet me and fight me? it would be your chance to kill me and then you could kill more Shan civilians.

[icp423]

It's time the world cared more about this. The UN cannot be selective about who they regard as worthy of receiving independence. They did it for Kosovo, so they can just as easily do it for Shanland.

[juannlja]

thanks for your support, antonio. i hope stallone will come n inspire these freedom fighters. col. yod serk says if they can get this inspiration, then his soldiers will fight like lions. thus, this could help the shans to gain independence and free from oppression.

[KensaiZen]

with dictatorship like this that truly opress the people, im wondering why doesnt america get involved here? im sure america would have done better here then it would in iraq.

even though there isnt any resources to exploit (like oil) america should do the right thing and help out the shan.

i hate to see my tai brothers and sisters in such a state... *sigh* how sad

[brooklynmonk1]

thanks for your support. the shan keep asking me to tell america about their plight. they hope america will come and help them. please tell everyone to watch this video and to write their congressman or woman.

[Ubon94]

For thos who don't know..

Shan, Thai and Lao belong to the same Ethnic group called Tai. We usually called Shan as Tai yai

[honjokun06]

You speak Thai, don't you? I heard a "Kob Khun Maak Khrub" at 4:30.

icp, before you say FREEDOM TO SHANLAND, shouldn't you say "Free Suu Kyi without conditions!" first?

[brooklynmonk1]

Yes i speak thai but shan is also similar to thai and many soldiers speak both. i support aung sna su kyi but the independence of shanland is a separate issue and doesnt need to wait for her to be released, especially since she has never stated that she has a plan to give independence to shanland. so i hope and pray for her release, but this is unrelated to the shanland issue.

[honjokun06]

In your opinion, what do you think chances are of the SSA defeating the SPDC army, considering that the junta starved the people and put all aid and oil money into the military (plus THE wedding)?

On a related note, my Burmese instructor actually said that now even the soldiers are sick of their own army. Many left already.

[brooklynmonk1]

The SSA doesnt have to beat teh SPDC. they arent trying to verthrow the government. they would support the over throw and they support NLD and Aung San Su Kyi but are not involved in that struggle because they are too far away and too small. the SSA is concentrating on getting independence for Shan State.

[brooklynmonk1]

I have written a ton of artciles on this struggle. i am publishing one article and one video per week till the movie is released. if you want me to send them to you or your professor that would be great. send me a private message with your email.

[honjokun06]

BTW, thank you so much for your prompt reply. Are you living in Thailand at the moment?

[brooklynmonk1]

As long as the SSA holds out and keeps fighting, buying time, hopefully the world will eventually step in to help them. all they need is recognition from USA or UN and that would be the end of the struggle.

[brooklynmonk1]

The SPDC have 400,000 thousand troops, the third largest army in asia. burma spends more than 20% of its gdp on military. most soldiers are conscripts. they dont want to fight. they are tortured and starved like everyone else.

[honjokun06]

Just the thing about conscription (as I have just finished mine in the Royal Thai Navy): my professor warned me that right now they're not using drafts anymore. They stop a bus on the road and ask all men to step down and join the army right away because their country need them. It's either for that or for forced labor. Is this true?

[brooklynmonk1]

yes, that is true. it is foced conscription at gun point but usually no choice is given. they arent offered the option of being porters. they are just killed if they resist.

[daimongkham]

Good job SSA. Congratuation !

[icp423]

Wonderful wonderful video. FREEDOM TO SHANLAND

[koko140872]

Good work, Antonio! Sly should see this and respond to yr request. We feel sorry for the Shan people as well as other ethnics of Burma who had gone thru so many years of neglect and suppression.