I have a vid about Persian royal jewels and its good to see someone interested in their history lessons and educating others. Good job on your project. Btw the reaction you have experienced on YT is a good lesson, that history is anything but the dry passages in old dusty books... :-)
india = pakistan + bangladesh .. all three were one country once upon a time . which means taking all three regions to consideration indians , pakistanis and Bangladeshis as one country own this ! i think if india /pak/bang get together and get rid of those borders and become one country again . then we can get it back !
In modern day "Kohinoor Diamond" is the perfect evidence of brit's thievery. And it will not be the last one since the brits are known for such humble profession "piracy" & "thievery". I wonder how shameless the brits and the queen can be, when she wears the crown in public. "Look what I am wearing, my forefather's stolen property. If this is not an evidence of my forefather's occupations (piracy and thievery); I don't know what is". Shameless brits and their pride in piracy and thievery. Spit.
That's what brits are good for. STEALING. You brits are the biggest thief in the world. In fact that's the only occupation your forefathers knew how to do well. "Steal others wealth". Because of that the brits got kicked in the ass from almost everybody. And look what you brits are reduced to, "a tiny country" that begs for its own survival. Even with all the stolen assets you can't manage to survive. Last I hear, your PM Cameron went to India to beg for more money in the name of diplomacy.
@neuro1941 well guess what his wishes were granted by our goverment. That show sincere is our own goverment is and how differently it thinks than you and me lol.
wow you've got it all fucking wrong. Maharaja Ranjit Singh, the king of the Sikh empire was in possession of the diamond. He was the last carrier of the diamond before the British stole it. Fucking thieves.
the diamond was in the possesson of the Skh Maharaja, Ranjit Singh ans was stolen by the Brtsh forces after he was treacherously killed . Your project s slightly factually incorrect in the end. Please be advised to revise and review the aspect I have said
The diamond was given as a gift to Maharajah Ranjit Singh by a wealthy muslim lady for defending her land against the british. The Diamond was then handed to Maharajah Ranjit's son Duleep Singh. The East India company manipulated Duleep Singh and bought him to England as a child and they took hold of the Diamond. Queen Victoria was very fond of Duleep Singh, this was all an act so the diamond would stay on British soil. Duleep Singh wanted to return to india but was caught & died a poor man
It was finally seized by the East India Company and became part of the British Crown Jewels when Queen Victoria was proclaimed Empress of India in 1877.
Just so that the moron who made this video gets his facts right :
Koh-i-Nur is a 105 carat (21.6 g) diamond that was once the largest known diamond in the world. The Kohinoor originated at Warangal in the state of Andhra Pradesh in India. It has belonged to various Hindu, Mughal, Persian, Afghan, Sikh and British rulers who fought bitterly over it at various points in history and seized it as a spoil of war time and again.
but the fact that it remains in britain continues to remind us of the bitter colonial history - i say we keep the memory alive, let the colonizers keep alive the memory of the pillage... indians should strive to rebuild their world while keeping in mind that they are the kohinoor, they embody it without having to possess it.
the comments for this video are absolutely pathetic, i cannot believe how hateful and most all ignorant all of you people are. What are you arguing about? a godamn diamond? a stupid possession that continues to bring the world nothing but pain?
i doubt its going to do india any good if it goes back,
if u people have something to say about your country's pride, it is only the theft, stealing attributes,cheating and misguidence like QUALITIES. Whatever u people claim to b yours is not yours but has been stolen or taken away frm India by cheating innocent people of India from thousands of tons of Gold,Kohinoor & hope diomonds,invalueable books to all the vedic knowledge,mathematics,astronomy,and what not. The list is endless.What u people knew before coming to India..NOTHING.Not even ZERO
fuck you we didnt give shit to you as a gift. Take your revisionist history to hell you bastard right wing brit. Its our fucking diamond and we'll take it back no matter in due time. thats like what some british love to say, we didnt invade india, they just let control theyre market and land LOL how fuckin stupid you think we are. Trust me britian will give that diamond back just watch what india does in the future
dont be so pride about india, wherever you are now it is only because of English people. if we would not have rule on india, it would have like african country.
dude are you serious..you are fucking black dude..you cant even speak english...you must be an illiterate or a thug in london...go read up some history in india if you are out of prsion..you fucking zulu
Personally I don't write such comments on Africans. They also suffered as Indians. A prudent person don't use such words. We should be comrade in arms.
@Awiesha plz may i edit ur comment...im not gonna wait im just gonna do it ' excuze me, the reason india and so many countries are called third world is bcuz of the dick sucking mother fucker whites and jews.'
It is only a routine reply from english imperialists. If we didn't then somebody will. Stupid lines. Use your common sense. WHen u r going to stop bothering about others and look at ur own?
No the victorians stole the Kohinoor Diamond of Ranjit Singh after his assassination u english asshole!! The Kohinoor will one day return to Lahore, Pakistan.
NO! it was taken not given from a 12 year old Maharaja Duleep Singh after being kidnapped by the british in Punjab and brought to live with Queen Victoria and was never allowed to see his family again or return to India.
If thats your definition of given then whats your definition of stealing?
I know that there are lots of asians in th uk working in high class jobs, nobody denies that, --- EVEN SAYING THAT WE HAVE THE POWER TO TAKE IT BACK SHOWS YOUR INFERIORTY. DONT PUT SO MUCH VALUE IN A STONE, EVEN IF YOU GET IT BACK, YOU WILL STILL BE A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY. THIS IS ISNT ABOUT THE DIAMOND, ITS ABOUT YOUR PRIDE. IF YOU COULD TAKE IT BACK YOU ALREADY WOULD HAVE DONE IT BY NOW, SO DONT FLATTER YOURSELF. EVEN IF IT WENT BACK TO INDIA, THERE ARE 100s OF CLAIMS ON THE OWNERSHIP FOR THAT---
dunkclass = indian people working is aint servicelessly they are givin their service in return and about kohinoor yeah we want it back because in return british gov. dint give any service neither peace till now southall/wembley and tooting have high population of indians innit nw if u dnt give us the diamond we would over the whole population of london haha after all they are hell many doctors and scientists and what not followed by the indians (HOPE YOU GOT MY JOKE) u hypocrite! x
How about we take the doctors, professors, lawyers, businessmen (Mind you, a lot of the list of the world's top 25 richest people is occupied by Indians, who have business affiliations with Britain and/or America).
Then, you can have fun with your 1% worth of a country you actually have. No hate, no nothing but just think before you say something.
If we wanted shit back, we have enough strength to take it back. We're peaceful and are recovering and recuperating our own economy by ourselves.
I know that there are lots of asians in th uk working in high class jobs, nobody denies that, --- EVEN SAYING THAT WE HAVE THE POWER TO TAKE IT BACK SHOWS YOUR INFERIORTY. DONT PUT SO MUCH VALUE IN A STONE, EVEN IF YOU GET IT BACK, YOU WILL STILL BE A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY. THIS IS ISNT ABOUT THE DIAMOND, ITS ABOUT YOUR PRIDE. IF YOU COULD TAKE IT BACK YOU ALREADY WOULD HAVE DONE IT BY NOW, SO DONT FLATTER YOURSELF. EVEN IF IT WENT BACK TO INDIA, THERE ARE 100s OF CLAIMS ON THE OWNERSHIP FOR THAT---
That's just being ignorant. The country is a third world country from whose perspective? Ours? I assume so. Just as a side note, please read the Nacirema article. Tell me what you think of them.
Also, India gifted the diamond so it's classless to take a gift back. Anyhow, India is rather potent. If you're going to be ignorant about factual documentation (search at your own interest) then be it. That's like saying China's poor. Maybe most of it is but it just dominated half the world.
it's classless to take it from a 12 year old boy kidnapped from his throne in Punjab and brought half way around the world to a strange land where he had no friends or family or any one to guide him and was duped out of his inheritence not only of the diamond but his throne of the Sikh Empire, his country even his family.
had britain treated a european head of state in such a manner there would have been uproar, just goes to show how racist britain is.
Thank-you for the video. It is a lovely gift to the monarchy of England. It is very well documented the genorocity of the Indian people as well as some retards. hehehe
the brits confiscated everything they found in the treasury as compensation for having to fight against the Sikh army, who didn't think much of the British claims to power in India..thats how the diamond came into british hands
That's the british shrewdness. What did you expect? That it would honestly carry a big tag "Looted from xyz after the battle of abc" if it was really obtained by loot??? Not just Kohinoor but all the things that they looted and on display in British Museums are shown as "gifted by xyz". Why? Because they know that once you say "gifted" no one can ask for them back.
I told you the english went around mugging everyone for their wealth...England had nothing but a shotgun to show the world whose boss...next time you see a blackman mug anyone remember the british this is where they learnt it all from...
You WILL HAVE to give it back. Time will tell. If there is a rise of a kingdom there is downfall too. A nice look at your country shows where Britain is right now. Even you navy ships have to maintained by the French. Part of your water supplies are managed by French. Half of your country's Gold is sold out to prevent Dollar from sinking against Gold. Lets wait until you become a bit more desperate. Rest assured Ur time to suffer will come. Sure.
I have a vid about Persian royal jewels and its good to see someone interested in their history lessons and educating others. Good job on your project. Btw the reaction you have experienced on YT is a good lesson, that history is anything but the dry passages in old dusty books... :-)
MeredithWaters 2 months ago
Indians should steal whatever they can from the UK to get revenge.
ZionistsLie 9 months ago 2
I HATE THESE FUCKING BRITISH. THEY STOLE THE KOHINOOR DIAMOND.
kavyareddy2 9 months ago 2
Brits will be destroyed according to the curse.
redmond12400 1 year ago
Look at your age?! It might be your ' History project ' But that really does not mean to put it on youtube-,- Geez
TheJ17M 1 year ago
You didn't say how come it came into british hands and was exibited!
J1NDA 1 year ago
india = pakistan + bangladesh .. all three were one country once upon a time . which means taking all three regions to consideration indians , pakistanis and Bangladeshis as one country own this ! i think if india /pak/bang get together and get rid of those borders and become one country again . then we can get it back !
TheRey4you 1 year ago
@TheRey4you ..what u get back ? More poverty
mosesravoori 11 months ago
I would have given you an A+ too :)
arabiantxn 1 year ago
it was stolen by britishers. they also robbed tonnes of gold from different countries. fuck british.
arjunhiral 1 year ago
finders keepers loser weepers! hahahahahaha
ghhgyjjuhjy 1 year ago
In modern day "Kohinoor Diamond" is the perfect evidence of brit's thievery. And it will not be the last one since the brits are known for such humble profession "piracy" & "thievery". I wonder how shameless the brits and the queen can be, when she wears the crown in public. "Look what I am wearing, my forefather's stolen property. If this is not an evidence of my forefather's occupations (piracy and thievery); I don't know what is". Shameless brits and their pride in piracy and thievery. Spit.
neuro1941 1 year ago 4
That's what brits are good for. STEALING. You brits are the biggest thief in the world. In fact that's the only occupation your forefathers knew how to do well. "Steal others wealth". Because of that the brits got kicked in the ass from almost everybody. And look what you brits are reduced to, "a tiny country" that begs for its own survival. Even with all the stolen assets you can't manage to survive. Last I hear, your PM Cameron went to India to beg for more money in the name of diplomacy.
neuro1941 1 year ago 7
@neuro1941 well guess what his wishes were granted by our goverment. That show sincere is our own goverment is and how differently it thinks than you and me lol.
Rohit84up 1 year ago
wow you've got it all fucking wrong. Maharaja Ranjit Singh, the king of the Sikh empire was in possession of the diamond. He was the last carrier of the diamond before the British stole it. Fucking thieves.
punjabistan01 1 year ago 5
what tha fuck this shit
suujan1 1 year ago
the diamond was in the possesson of the Skh Maharaja, Ranjit Singh ans was stolen by the Brtsh forces after he was treacherously killed . Your project s slightly factually incorrect in the end. Please be advised to revise and review the aspect I have said
rajbirbhatti 1 year ago 2
ok this is bull shit the diamond belong to ranjit singh and was stolen from british get you facts right
gmackk06 1 year ago 2
You guys are stupid .
k1f8977 1 year ago
damn english....they stole the dimond... i pray that they get the curse of it.
wavokiaado 1 year ago 2
haha god ignorance is so bliss <3 americans
nekomi15 1 year ago
maharaja ranjit singh had kohinoor diamond.
navideol88 1 year ago
Full of wrong information...(
sasdasbd 2 years ago 2
The diamond was given as a gift to Maharajah Ranjit Singh by a wealthy muslim lady for defending her land against the british. The Diamond was then handed to Maharajah Ranjit's son Duleep Singh. The East India company manipulated Duleep Singh and bought him to England as a child and they took hold of the Diamond. Queen Victoria was very fond of Duleep Singh, this was all an act so the diamond would stay on British soil. Duleep Singh wanted to return to india but was caught & died a poor man
dubplateroots 2 years ago
to many mistakes and wrong info, sorry, but still entertaining
alimcmoet 2 years ago
a great school project C. congrats, well done!
kinddragon 2 years ago
It was finally seized by the East India Company and became part of the British Crown Jewels when Queen Victoria was proclaimed Empress of India in 1877.
nacimento83 2 years ago
Just so that the moron who made this video gets his facts right :
Koh-i-Nur is a 105 carat (21.6 g) diamond that was once the largest known diamond in the world. The Kohinoor originated at Warangal in the state of Andhra Pradesh in India. It has belonged to various Hindu, Mughal, Persian, Afghan, Sikh and British rulers who fought bitterly over it at various points in history and seized it as a spoil of war time and again.
nacimento83 2 years ago
but the fact that it remains in britain continues to remind us of the bitter colonial history - i say we keep the memory alive, let the colonizers keep alive the memory of the pillage... indians should strive to rebuild their world while keeping in mind that they are the kohinoor, they embody it without having to possess it.
fqshah 2 years ago
the comments for this video are absolutely pathetic, i cannot believe how hateful and most all ignorant all of you people are. What are you arguing about? a godamn diamond? a stupid possession that continues to bring the world nothing but pain?
i doubt its going to do india any good if it goes back,
fqshah 2 years ago
India will get this gem back. We are a now a super power. bring on the weak little british now. we will smash them.
luckyceltic69 2 years ago
Not a real super power.
Most of the people in India live in filth and poverty. And we could still kick your ass LOL.
MrForever00 2 years ago
if u people have something to say about your country's pride, it is only the theft, stealing attributes,cheating and misguidence like QUALITIES. Whatever u people claim to b yours is not yours but has been stolen or taken away frm India by cheating innocent people of India from thousands of tons of Gold,Kohinoor & hope diomonds,invalueable books to all the vedic knowledge,mathematics,astronomy,and what not. The list is endless.What u people knew before coming to India..NOTHING.Not even ZERO
geapsi 2 years ago 2
@MrForever00 Yeah right, you mean like afgahnistan? you pussies wouldn't know what hit you
J1NDA 1 year ago
with the money of britain you are what you are
quicksilver231 2 years ago
white ppl are disgusting in so many ways....
Awiesha 2 years ago
Okay lets stelle this argument! Both India and Britian sucks balls... ;)
320933831 2 years ago
what the hell is this???
DaveHarveys17 2 years ago
....read the description box?
DoubleCComedy 2 years ago
no you dumbass... the video. it looks like retards made it
DaveHarveys17 2 years ago
you fucking americans,
india has gave us Kohinoor as gift.
fucking asshole americans Accent.
smartstina 2 years ago
fuck you we didnt give shit to you as a gift. Take your revisionist history to hell you bastard right wing brit. Its our fucking diamond and we'll take it back no matter in due time. thats like what some british love to say, we didnt invade india, they just let control theyre market and land LOL how fuckin stupid you think we are. Trust me britian will give that diamond back just watch what india does in the future
mechysonu1 2 years ago
dont be so pride about india, wherever you are now it is only because of English people. if we would not have rule on india, it would have like african country.
smartstina 2 years ago
dude are you serious..you are fucking black dude..you cant even speak english...you must be an illiterate or a thug in london...go read up some history in india if you are out of prsion..you fucking zulu
bmw335i88 2 years ago
there are only 1 truth history that is British ruled on india.
smartstina 2 years ago
i wont waste time on you fucking unevolved ape...
bmw335i88 2 years ago
@smartstina and America!
J1NDA 1 year ago
@bmw335i88
Personally I don't write such comments on Africans. They also suffered as Indians. A prudent person don't use such words. We should be comrade in arms.
y3puGnxg 1 year ago
excuse me, the reason India and so many other countries are third world is bcuz of the whites and jews
Awiesha 2 years ago 19
@Awiesha plz may i edit ur comment...im not gonna wait im just gonna do it ' excuze me, the reason india and so many countries are called third world is bcuz of the dick sucking mother fucker whites and jews.'
cricketlover1973 6 months ago
LOl r u fuckin kiddiing me it would be like north america. the british extracted what ever it could out of inida and this diamond is a prime example.
noobkamal 2 years ago
@smartstina
It is only a routine reply from english imperialists. If we didn't then somebody will. Stupid lines. Use your common sense. WHen u r going to stop bothering about others and look at ur own?
y3puGnxg 1 year ago
No the victorians stole the Kohinoor Diamond of Ranjit Singh after his assassination u english asshole!! The Kohinoor will one day return to Lahore, Pakistan.
maylaynium 2 years ago
@smartstina
NO! it was taken not given from a 12 year old Maharaja Duleep Singh after being kidnapped by the british in Punjab and brought to live with Queen Victoria and was never allowed to see his family again or return to India.
If thats your definition of given then whats your definition of stealing?
J1NDA 1 year ago
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021416884 2 years ago
I know that there are lots of asians in th uk working in high class jobs, nobody denies that, --- EVEN SAYING THAT WE HAVE THE POWER TO TAKE IT BACK SHOWS YOUR INFERIORTY. DONT PUT SO MUCH VALUE IN A STONE, EVEN IF YOU GET IT BACK, YOU WILL STILL BE A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY. THIS IS ISNT ABOUT THE DIAMOND, ITS ABOUT YOUR PRIDE. IF YOU COULD TAKE IT BACK YOU ALREADY WOULD HAVE DONE IT BY NOW, SO DONT FLATTER YOURSELF. EVEN IF IT WENT BACK TO INDIA, THERE ARE 100s OF CLAIMS ON THE OWNERSHIP FOR THAT---
dunkclass 2 years ago
@dunkclass
I thought it would go tothe Goverment.
y3puGnxg 1 year ago
dunkclass = indian people working is aint servicelessly they are givin their service in return and about kohinoor yeah we want it back because in return british gov. dint give any service neither peace till now southall/wembley and tooting have high population of indians innit nw if u dnt give us the diamond we would over the whole population of london haha after all they are hell many doctors and scientists and what not followed by the indians (HOPE YOU GOT MY JOKE) u hypocrite! x
hent6 2 years ago
I heard that the indians want kohinoor back in india.
They want all looted relics to come back to india!.
WHY STOP THERE - IF YOU WANT THE DIAMOND TO GO BACK TO INDIA, DONT FORGET TO TAKE THE OTHER 1.6 MILLION INDIAN RELICS WITH YOU WHEN YOU GO.
MOST OF THOSE INDIAN RELICS LIVE IN SOUTHALL & WORK IN TESCO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(YOU WILL GET THE JOKE LATER) !!!
dunkclass 3 years ago
Dunk.. get a life.
ragemanchoo82 2 years ago
How about we take the doctors, professors, lawyers, businessmen (Mind you, a lot of the list of the world's top 25 richest people is occupied by Indians, who have business affiliations with Britain and/or America).
Then, you can have fun with your 1% worth of a country you actually have. No hate, no nothing but just think before you say something.
If we wanted shit back, we have enough strength to take it back. We're peaceful and are recovering and recuperating our own economy by ourselves.
heavenlyplaya 2 years ago
I know that there are lots of asians in th uk working in high class jobs, nobody denies that, --- EVEN SAYING THAT WE HAVE THE POWER TO TAKE IT BACK SHOWS YOUR INFERIORTY. DONT PUT SO MUCH VALUE IN A STONE, EVEN IF YOU GET IT BACK, YOU WILL STILL BE A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY. THIS IS ISNT ABOUT THE DIAMOND, ITS ABOUT YOUR PRIDE. IF YOU COULD TAKE IT BACK YOU ALREADY WOULD HAVE DONE IT BY NOW, SO DONT FLATTER YOURSELF. EVEN IF IT WENT BACK TO INDIA, THERE ARE 100s OF CLAIMS ON THE OWNERSHIP FOR THAT---
dunkclass 2 years ago
That's just being ignorant. The country is a third world country from whose perspective? Ours? I assume so. Just as a side note, please read the Nacirema article. Tell me what you think of them.
Also, India gifted the diamond so it's classless to take a gift back. Anyhow, India is rather potent. If you're going to be ignorant about factual documentation (search at your own interest) then be it. That's like saying China's poor. Maybe most of it is but it just dominated half the world.
heavenlyplaya 2 years ago
@heavenlyplaya
it's classless to take it from a 12 year old boy kidnapped from his throne in Punjab and brought half way around the world to a strange land where he had no friends or family or any one to guide him and was duped out of his inheritence not only of the diamond but his throne of the Sikh Empire, his country even his family.
had britain treated a european head of state in such a manner there would have been uproar, just goes to show how racist britain is.
J1NDA 1 year ago
@dunkclass
Mate, if we go then who is gonna feed you. government? it is our tax you are getting benefits?
y3puGnxg 1 year ago
@dunkclass fuckoff u cunt
cuntbuster 1 month ago
I honestly dont understand why people are still watching this
DoubleCComedy 3 years ago
Then, I honestly don't understand why you still have it up. :P
heavenlyplaya 2 years ago
Thank-you for the video. It is a lovely gift to the monarchy of England. It is very well documented the genorocity of the Indian people as well as some retards. hehehe
golo5000 3 years ago
ppl r so thick..
the brits confiscated everything they found in the treasury as compensation for having to fight against the Sikh army, who didn't think much of the British claims to power in India..thats how the diamond came into british hands
navijatt 3 years ago 3
DIRTY BRITISH
Anjaan1971 3 years ago
@leesetters
Do vassals have a choice? Gifts given at gun point are not gifts.
dbca999 3 years ago 2
very good
mady1100 2 years ago 3
That's the british shrewdness. What did you expect? That it would honestly carry a big tag "Looted from xyz after the battle of abc" if it was really obtained by loot??? Not just Kohinoor but all the things that they looted and on display in British Museums are shown as "gifted by xyz". Why? Because they know that once you say "gifted" no one can ask for them back.
dbca999 3 years ago 2
well you have do alot of research on kohinoor diamond,,
ghanisheik 3 years ago
Kate Middleton would sport the Koh-I-Noor sooo fiercely!
deangonzales 3 years ago
Kohinoor diamond was found in Golconda under Quli Qutub Shah rule not delhi sultanate you fucking moron.
congiestale 3 years ago
Once again sorry if I offended you but I don't really care. I passed the class, got an A, and am moving on. I suggest you do too.
DoubleCComedy 3 years ago
@DoubleCComedy poor education system in the west...luckily I had my school education in Japan and India.
zairt 1 year ago
@congiestale : The only thing she proved from this report is that she's ignorant.
ZionistsLie 1 year ago
fucking british stole kohinoor daimond from golconda....return it back to us.
congiestale 3 years ago
fucking britishers.. stolen our precious things.... thats y these britshers have no future.... fuck off
tanushree1307 3 years ago
Its a school project. Get over it.
DoubleCComedy 3 years ago
fucking britishers.. stolen our precious things.... thats these britshers have no future.... fuck off
tanushree1307 3 years ago
Kid... shut up.
ragemanchoo82 3 years ago
tanushree dont worry...we'll get back this diamond from these freckled face white trash.
congiestale 3 years ago
I told you the english went around mugging everyone for their wealth...England had nothing but a shotgun to show the world whose boss...next time you see a blackman mug anyone remember the british this is where they learnt it all from...
harj97 3 years ago
There is no curse of the Kohinoor diamond. You are making it up so that we don't ask for it back.
dbca999 3 years ago
1. dont care if its real or not I still got an A
2. Youre not getting it back
DoubleCComedy 3 years ago
To DoubleCComedy
You WILL HAVE to give it back. Time will tell. If there is a rise of a kingdom there is downfall too. A nice look at your country shows where Britain is right now. Even you navy ships have to maintained by the French. Part of your water supplies are managed by French. Half of your country's Gold is sold out to prevent Dollar from sinking against Gold. Lets wait until you become a bit more desperate. Rest assured Ur time to suffer will come. Sure.
dbca999 3 years ago 3
Wow good thing I live in America...
DoubleCComedy 3 years ago
you're just saying that because you're the star
DoubleCComedy 4 years ago
Amazing acting!!! Nice direction too.
cpeterc 4 years ago