EL TERRITORIO DE LAS MALVINAS PERTENECEN ALA ARGENTINA ESE TERRITORIO FORMA PARTE DE LA PLATAFORMA CONTINENTAL ARGENTINA SE ENCUENTRA UBICADO EN EL MAR ARGENTINO
@111jasy111 And i dont know wot you are wanting reparation for, you live on barren wind swept islands that britain discovered and fought for so the people can live under a free democracy instead of a dictatorship regime that forced the islanders to change their way of life to suit the argentines in them few weeks they invaded! i bet you are a dirty spic who claims to live on the falklands as i find it hard to believe a true falklander would come out with shit you are spouting out!
@Whitbywatcher what do you expect from a backward uncivilized corrupt spic of a nation. argentina is a cast off colony of spain, just look at how spain acts against gibraltar, EVERY spanish speaking nation has had some form of corrupt dictatorship, they only know how to play dirty until britain gives them a slap. they are all dirty spic dogs anyway
In 1972 Argentina's Air Force built a runway from where the islanders could enjoy flying to the mainland twice a week by the Argentine State Airlines everytime they needed medical assistance or when they sent their kids to our schools or when they simply wanted to visit and enjoy our beaches during the summer.
Years later Britain built a runway too but the service was still under the Argentine State Ailines with permanent argentine personnel on Stanley.
Every 3rd world country was embraced by Western policies even if it needed the CIA to overthrow goverments and instal a client dictator who'd be properly aligned in the Holy War against Russians and buy lots of expensive Western weapons and have his secret police and death squads properly trained to keep in line all those who oppossed to the regime.
Still the UK plays deaf at the UN for too many decades only because the UK holds the undemocratic privilege of permanent member of the Sec Council
What the CIA does or has done is not the fault of the United Kingdom. Despite everything Blair did to cloud the distinction, we still remain two separate countries.
@111jasy111 If the people of the Isle of Wight wished to remain Argentine under those circumstances, I am sure that we would respect that. Like we do with the Faroese, who wish to stay Danish despite their being much closer to the UK than to Denmark, and the French do with the Channel Islands which are closer to them than us. But it does require imagination for Argentina to have invaded 300 years ago, since 1711 was 99 years before Argentina. (And 122 years before we "stole" the Falklands.)
Basically England desperately hides behind UN self determination rights while on the other hand bans the Chagos Islanders to return to their homeland.
It's a typical English double standard, like crying about the abuse of argentine junta while helping Chile's dictator Pinochet to escape from International Crime Court by giving him diplomatic/sovereign immunity inside the UK.
He was accused of ordering killings, abductions and torture of thousands of Chileans and England secured him impunity.
So if you don't want to set a double standard yourself, you should not champion the rights of one people yet ignore the rights of another to suit your own cause.
@Myles0Harcourt That is what the UK has been doing, banning Black Chagos Isladers to return to their homeland while defending white British islanders to keep squatting in Argentine territory.
Yes, the Chagos Islanders should deserve to be returned to their home and compensated heavily.
They deserve their self determination, and there are few over ehre, bar the government, who would deny that.
Equally the Falkland Islanders need their self determination also.
Our powers that be do sadly set a bit of a double standard. But then, so do you, defending one peoples' right to self determination under a foreign power yet denying another peoples' right to be free from you.
The UK started with this self-determination bullshit so we just expose it. The islanders are British people, not distinct ethnically or culturally from the administering country.
It's the UK that's hiding behind a right that was given by the UN to groups of people that were under the colonial yoke, which was never the case with the islanders.
It's a disgrace and an insult to the memories of all those that gave their lifes because of British colonialism all over the world!
I wonder how many people died so that Argentina can exist today. How many people your Spanish ancestors killed, and how many patagonians because of your own imperialism. We have given most of our colonies that wanted it independence (India, Africa, Australia, Canada) and they rule themselves now.
I know that Argentina may conveniently airbrush the Conquest of the Desert from History, but if it wasn't for colonialism, Argentina would only be a wild land of tribal Amerindians.
@Myles0Harcourt Not at all, my British friend. Our highest banknote remembers the Conquest of the Desert. That is certainly not an airbrush, don't you think? We know it was outrageous to kill five thousands natives. They weren't peaceful either. Their descendants today support our rightful sovereignity claim. On the other hand, how many millions around the globe gave their lives because of British colonialism? How many millions died because of wars created by Britain?
It depends what you mean by "created by". Do you mean colonial wars, or just general wars? We had as many wars with other European countries over colonies as with colonial people themselves. Were it not for our colonialism many countries today would not exist, just like many South American countries, Argentina included, would not exist if it were not for the colonialism of Spain and Portugal. We are an ex colonial power, you are a country that exists only because of colonialism.
@Myles0Harcourt The UK is not an "ex" colonial power, otherwise their colonies would not be on the UN list of non-decolonized territories. Also, our founding fathers had a different idea in mind liberated South America from the Spanish colonial yoke. Britain was behind the creation of different states, in order to benefit economically and keep us separated and divided. But we are all one people, and you can see it today since all Latin American countries want the British out of our islands.
@111jasy111 Not an ex-colonial power? All that stuff that your compatriots have told me about the "Empire is dead" is untrue then. I am aware that your founders may have wished to get away from the Spanish colonial yoke. Were it not for Spanish colonists there would have been no Argentina to self-liberate. Seeing as we are not Latin American (Latin died out here a long time ago) and nor are the Falklanders, we are under no obligation to comply with Mercosur's orders regarding our own territory.
@Myles0Harcourt Not a territory of the UK. For half a century the UN has officially recognized a sovereignity dispute and kept urging Argentina and the UK to solve it, yet the UK abuses its power and plays deaf. And Argentina kept complaining about this issue long time before the creation of the UN. The UK abandoned the islands for half a century, no flag was waving, no proof of ownership! After the creation of the Argentine state the UK suddenly "remembered" it was theirs. What? Sick!
The UN's position is its standard neutral one in such disputes. Just like Gibraltar and the Southern Kuril Islands. Argentina didn't comply with UNSC resolution 502 either. The people you need to negotiate with are the islanders not us; we have shown clearly in 1982 we will not let the islanders be subjugated by you unless they wish it. If you want the islands, you should try to build relations with the people, not isolate and alienate them as your government does at the moment.
@Myles0Harcourt The UN's position is not neutral at all regarding this subject. URGE WITHOUT DELAY TO SOLVE THE SITUATION is not neutral. This is a special case of colonialism according to the UN, since it's a colonial territory with no colonized people. Still the uk uses UN rights that were created in order to free oppressed people, not to secure impunity and maintain colonialism alive. And as long as only 5 countries have permanent seats at the UNSC there won't be full democracy at the UN.
So if we use it to free oppressed people where is the problem? We used it in Libya, with the result that an unpopular dictator was overthrown and a massacre in Benhgazi was prevented.
@Myles0Harcourt Why you switch the subject to Libya? This is an old UN-recognized sovereignty dispute between Argentina and the UK, which dates from beyond the creation of the UN itself. It doesn't matter if long decades passed, we will never relinquish to our rightful claim. In a more equal world, this situation would have been solved long time before.
Before you bang on again about the strong oppressing the weak, imagine how the people of the Falklands felt when your soldiers were taking dumps on their floors (I can train a dog better than that), beating them up for listening to the radio and locking the entire population of a town into a hall without proper sanitation, food, water or facilities to build a shelter to protect them from any fighting.
@Myles0Harcourt Somebody took a dump on a floor. Big deal. Despicable would have been to kill them all. Remember Argentina was under a military dictatorship imposed by the CIA like every military dictatorship on the region and perhaps the world. But at least a couple decades later we sent them all to jail, unlike our chilean brothers who couldn't send Pinochet and its junta to jail because of British help even though Pinochet was being prosecuted by the ICC for crimes against humanity.
And what about the other things that Argentine troops did? Such as the disgracefull treatment of the inhabitants of Goose Green, and the treatment of prominent members of the community who were especially vociferously opposed to Argentine rule such as Bill Luxton who were thrown out fo their homes and deported to Britain. And the people who were beaten up by Argentine troops for listening to the radio. Argentina has yet to condemn those actions or apologise to their victims.
@Myles0Harcourt Are the islanders aware that we sent all those dictators to jail or it is another fact that Britain hides? Britain has yet to condemn Margaret Thatcher for supporting and granting impunity to murder dictator Augusto Pinochet while he was being prosecuted by the ICC. This happened just a few years ago. Perhaps is is OK for Britain to support crimes against humanity as long as it goes along with British interests in South America. You tell me.
@111jasy111 Argentina has punished the dictators, but what of those people lower down, such as Patricio Dowling, who is still remembered in the Islands for his brutality and lack of respect? Has Argentina apologised for the abuses to the civilians of the Falklands? I have never seen such an apology. Germany has apologised for its past dictatorships, we have apologised for things like the slave trade and Bloody Sunday, Russia for Katyn, now it's your turn.
@Myles0Harcourt I don't know why that doesn't happen. I guess that as soon as the UK complies with several UN resolutions that kept urging both countries to solve the sovereignty issue - long time before 1982 - you can expect a huge amount of apologies from our side, otherwise it might be taken as an acceptance of British sovereignty by your country and that contradicts the UN.
Britain should apologize to Chile for granting impunity to their dictator Pinochet while he was being prosecuted.
Considering Pinochet left for Chile anyway, I hardly think it is Chile whom we should apologise to. As I have said before the ones you need to negotiate with are the Islanders- they control their own future and you need to convince them-not us-that they would be better off Argentine. And the way you need to do that is to stop blockading them and denying their right to exist. A mature and sensible country does not try to charm people into giving up their land by starving them out.
@Myles0Harcourt Most of them are already convinced-programmed by British dark forces so I can't see that happening. If Britain had only ¨talks¨ with us, given that you are the administrators, the situation might change. We are just following UN procedures. And although the argentine dictatorship was murderous and brutal, the islanders kept existing during the conflict in 1982. They could exist and keep existing although thousands of argentine couldn´t. Should be taken in consideration someday.
After diplomatic relations were restored there was real dialogue between the Falklands and Argentina, and there were agreements in areas such as fisheries, research, transport and crucially oil. It's a shame that CFK's government has ripped it all up, especially the oil (Argentina might otherwise be able to look forward to big money). Real progress was made under president Menem, and it is a pity that CFK is going back on it and alienating the Falkland Islanders more than ever.
@Myles0Harcourt Two weeks ago about 930 million barrels equivalent of shale oil were discovered in Patagonia. Oil is just a circumstance. Our cause does not originate in oil and you do know that. President Menem neo liberal policies brought collapse to Argentina in 2001. Perhaps that is what the masterminds behind the islanders psyche see as real progress: the destruction of Argentina's economy and hence destruction of Argentina's rightful sovereignty claims in the South Atlantic Ocean.
@111jasy111 I know that the original Argentine claims do not originate with oil (nor do ours) and if Argentina has discovered oil in Patagonia, good luck to you. But the fact that the Falklanders (whom Argentina says would be allowed to stay on the islands anyway) choose to exploit their own natural resources (it is run by FIG, not HMG) should not be an issue affecting Argentina unless Argentina would make direct profit from such oil, whereas the UK does not make any direct profit.
Argentina first claimed South Georgia in 1927, the South Shetland Islands in 1943, The South Orkney Islands in 1925 and the South Sandwich Islands in 1938.
Britain first claimed South Georgia in 1775 and cemented its claims further in 1908, along and claimed the other aforementioned islands in the same letters patent.
Even more than in the Falklands, these figures speak for themselves.
CONGRATULATIONS to Argentina - one single Falkland Islander has decided to take up Argentine citizenship, this means there are now only another 3,139 more to go; Did you know that the Faroe Islands are much nearer to Britain than they are to Denmark, but the Faroe Islands are Danish, do we claim they belong to us (the British) ? - No of course not.
Do you know that yesterday an islander born in Malvinas, son of an islander who fought in the conflict of 1982, became an Argentine citizen? He was born in the islands in 1968 and he applied for the argentine nationality since he is an argentine citizen like all islanders. One day we will celebrate all together with beer and soccer match with Diego. Fuck England. Malvinas Argentinas.
Por ahora siguen siendo de ustedes bastardos ingleses. Esas islas son todas de argentina las malvinas sandwich y georgias un dia van a volver a quien les pertenece se hacen los pijas por los yankees y los chilenos que los ayudaron. De no ser por ellos ustedes se hubieran ido mas con el ojete roto de lo que se fueron. Inglaterra no existis!!!
@larraldero The Falklands are British and always will be and we will never let anyone take our land from us. Your country however thought we wold sit there and allow you to take away what is rightfully ours
@larraldero The Falklands are British and always will be and we will never let anyone take our land from us. Your country however thought we would sit there and allow you to take away what is rightfully ours thats why you got your arses kicked
@midgiemarsh fake and liar. The Malvinas were discovered in 1520 by Esteban Gómez, a crewman of the ship San Antonio, one of the vessels Magellan's expedition. as the demarcation of lands of the papal bulls, the islands belonged to Spain. However,British sailors, Dutch and French came to the islands on several occasions.
@midgiemarsh In 1829 Vernet was appointed governor of the Malvinas. That same year Britain claimed its sovereignty over islands, winning discovery. In 1833 the nation took the Malvinas under their control, expelling authorities Creole. Since then, Argentina has never ceased to claim sovereignty over the archipelago.
@bufixteam there wont be a nuclear war. I don't think your government is stupid enough to start nuking over some small islands inhabited by people who don't want you to rule them. Thats why we liberated them from you. If you realise the people of the Falklands (Thats right FALKLANDS not Malvinas or whatever the hell you call them) want to be British. Keep your hands off what is rightfully ours and keep your hands off our people.
@midgiemarsh u have no idea man, maybe yes or maybe not, but Argentina have resourses to create nuclear missiles. we have alot of power to destroy anything. for the islands. Argentina is not Iraq man.. relax
And we have nothing to fear, we are a nuclear power. can destroy any enemy.
so go back OUR Islands and enjoy your queen in your country UK. Islas Malvinas Argentinas.
@bufixteam Well your country is fucking stupid then if your willing to start this kind of violence. One thing Iove is how you claim that we committed war crimes when your saying " were gonna nuke you". The Falklands are British always will be they hate you. We liberated them from you once before and we'll gladly do so again. You said you can destroy any enemy. WELL WE DESTROYED YOU
The Falklands are British and always will be. RULE BRITANNIA
@midgiemarsh man, Argentina have the purest natural uranium in the world. with 1 bomb we could leave a crater in Europe. EEUU know that, Germany, France, Holland, and others buy Argentine uranium.
@bufixteam I'm not talking about Uranium and also you don't seem to have big balls because we smashed your army to pieces because you dident appear to realise that we don't let anyone take what is ours by right. So what if you have Uranium lets look at the facts here. Your government is not stupid enough to go and nuke innocent people over a group of small islands. the only reason you claim sovereignty is because they are close to you.
@bufixteam But we still have them AFTER 200+ years.Even after a war were you got the SHIT kicked out of you in 3 weeks.
They will reamain British even if you claim in "1800's" this or that.You think that really MEANS anything? If it did half the maps in the world would have to be redrawn.NEWSFLASH!! America's not going to Give back TEXAS AND your not getting the islands back.ITS OVER.
As "Nuking" the Islands only a IDIOT would use a weapon of mass distruction.
@TrentVenture Now, now. It's only impossible for Argentina to get the islands "back" because it never had them. We Brits settled in the (uninhabited) Falklands etc before their country even existed.
@bufixteam Argentina doesn't even have nuclear weapons. But even if it did, do you really want the Falklands so badly that'd you'd destroy them and murder all the people there?
@bufixteam Dumbass, Argentina doesnt have the capability to make a nuke let alone launch one, not to mention get one passed our defenses. We would blow it out of the sky and then send one back and watch you all burn.
@bufixteam The Faeroe Islands are closer to Britain and Iceland then they are to Denmark but we don't claim they are ours because we respect they are Danish you take a tip and accept that the Falklands are a lost cause because they are British and will be forever.
@bufixteam You keep changing the subject. Your never gonna nuke them the Falklands are ours and always will be now i cannae be bothered with you anymore tonight because you keep changing the subject and don't have any response other than we have Nukes
So this message i do send. If you return we'll take you on again and drive you out of land again
Falkland Islands forever British. RULE BRITANNIA, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
@midgiemarsh Argentina's proximity to the Falklands (British) means that Great Britain could claim Argentina, following bufixteam's "logic"." Why should this "it's mine because I'm close to it" rubbish only work one way 'round?
@thebritish25 Well, it is only unfortunate to you Breits that while every other Empire gave their colonies independence, you are still using them for your advantage. People who don't even speak your language. I would want you to think about that for a minute instead of spewing out the nationalist shit in your brain.
@VintageJunior Well that is funny becuase the Keelpers ancestors come from Scotland before that they where uninhabited there for we had the Islands before Argantina was a nation.
Every other nation huh France Reunion Kergulen Martinuqe Guadeloupe New Caldonia Crozet St Paul Clipperton Amsterdam Islands ans Tubaui Islands not to mention French Polynesia
@VintageJunior could not keep there colonialists on a leash and lost them to Revalution while the French Paraded over Iberia and then what little left to the Americans e.t Cuba Guam the Philipeens and there last influences over Mexico.
for are advantage eh the Islanders voted to be British or Argantine 98% said stay British.
the UN condemed the invasion and Argantina failed with both the dove and the bayonet the people who live there dont want to be Argantinian all you want is the Oil ..
ehh?? las islas georgias y sandwich del sur son argentinas, las islas malvinas si son territorio de inglaterra lamentablemente, peroo lass otras dos no! esas si que son argentinass!! ingleses hdp! los odioo profundamente,, !
I've always asked myself, especially after seeing it on G. Earth, why is the far South, meaning everything that surrounds Antarctica, the McDonald & Heard islands, generally every territory that's from around 40 S to the south, so cloudy.
Every day I check on G. Earth, those territories are drowned in massive cloud formations, and I really can't see the reason.
WE dont have Historic or Legal Reasons to discuse what have you been Living in a crater on the moon with your eyes shut and your fingers in your ears for the last 177.3 years
Las Islas Georgias del Sur son un archipiélago subántartico en disputa, bajo administración británica forman parte del Territorio Británico de Ultramar de las Islas Georgias del Sur y Sandwich del Sur.
argentina are going to pick a fight with some penguins and lose.
TheStudvalley2011 1 day ago
why do argentine conquestadors think they have a right to these aswell? theyre more than 1500 miles away from argentina.
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EL TERRITORIO DE LAS MALVINAS PERTENECEN ALA ARGENTINA ESE TERRITORIO FORMA PARTE DE LA PLATAFORMA CONTINENTAL ARGENTINA SE ENCUENTRA UBICADO EN EL MAR ARGENTINO
MrAndioliv 4 weeks ago
@111jasy111 And i dont know wot you are wanting reparation for, you live on barren wind swept islands that britain discovered and fought for so the people can live under a free democracy instead of a dictatorship regime that forced the islanders to change their way of life to suit the argentines in them few weeks they invaded! i bet you are a dirty spic who claims to live on the falklands as i find it hard to believe a true falklander would come out with shit you are spouting out!
fannywipe89 2 months ago
@Whitbywatcher what do you expect from a backward uncivilized corrupt spic of a nation. argentina is a cast off colony of spain, just look at how spain acts against gibraltar, EVERY spanish speaking nation has had some form of corrupt dictatorship, they only know how to play dirty until britain gives them a slap. they are all dirty spic dogs anyway
fannywipe89 2 months ago
I will tell you what was real progress:
In 1972 Argentina's Air Force built a runway from where the islanders could enjoy flying to the mainland twice a week by the Argentine State Airlines everytime they needed medical assistance or when they sent their kids to our schools or when they simply wanted to visit and enjoy our beaches during the summer.
Years later Britain built a runway too but the service was still under the Argentine State Ailines with permanent argentine personnel on Stanley.
111jasy111 2 months ago
Every 3rd world country was embraced by Western policies even if it needed the CIA to overthrow goverments and instal a client dictator who'd be properly aligned in the Holy War against Russians and buy lots of expensive Western weapons and have his secret police and death squads properly trained to keep in line all those who oppossed to the regime.
Still the UK plays deaf at the UN for too many decades only because the UK holds the undemocratic privilege of permanent member of the Sec Council
111jasy111 3 months ago
@111jasy111
What the CIA does or has done is not the fault of the United Kingdom. Despite everything Blair did to cloud the distinction, we still remain two separate countries.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
Imagine Argentina owning the Isle of Wight just cos they invaded it 300 years ago.... LOL
111jasy111 3 months ago
@111jasy111 If the people of the Isle of Wight wished to remain Argentine under those circumstances, I am sure that we would respect that. Like we do with the Faroese, who wish to stay Danish despite their being much closer to the UK than to Denmark, and the French do with the Channel Islands which are closer to them than us. But it does require imagination for Argentina to have invaded 300 years ago, since 1711 was 99 years before Argentina. (And 122 years before we "stole" the Falklands.)
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
wtf is a sandwich island can i get tuna on mine
range567W 4 months ago 3
@range567W
They are named, presumably, after the Earl of Sandwich, after whom the snack is also named.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
Basically England desperately hides behind UN self determination rights while on the other hand bans the Chagos Islanders to return to their homeland.
It's a typical English double standard, like crying about the abuse of argentine junta while helping Chile's dictator Pinochet to escape from International Crime Court by giving him diplomatic/sovereign immunity inside the UK.
He was accused of ordering killings, abductions and torture of thousands of Chileans and England secured him impunity.
111jasy111 4 months ago
@111jasy111
So if you don't want to set a double standard yourself, you should not champion the rights of one people yet ignore the rights of another to suit your own cause.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt That is what the UK has been doing, banning Black Chagos Isladers to return to their homeland while defending white British islanders to keep squatting in Argentine territory.
111jasy111 3 months ago
@111jasy111
Yes, the Chagos Islanders should deserve to be returned to their home and compensated heavily.
They deserve their self determination, and there are few over ehre, bar the government, who would deny that.
Equally the Falkland Islanders need their self determination also.
Our powers that be do sadly set a bit of a double standard. But then, so do you, defending one peoples' right to self determination under a foreign power yet denying another peoples' right to be free from you.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt
The UK started with this self-determination bullshit so we just expose it. The islanders are British people, not distinct ethnically or culturally from the administering country.
It's the UK that's hiding behind a right that was given by the UN to groups of people that were under the colonial yoke, which was never the case with the islanders.
It's a disgrace and an insult to the memories of all those that gave their lifes because of British colonialism all over the world!
111jasy111 3 months ago
@111jasy111
I wonder how many people died so that Argentina can exist today. How many people your Spanish ancestors killed, and how many patagonians because of your own imperialism. We have given most of our colonies that wanted it independence (India, Africa, Australia, Canada) and they rule themselves now.
I know that Argentina may conveniently airbrush the Conquest of the Desert from History, but if it wasn't for colonialism, Argentina would only be a wild land of tribal Amerindians.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Not at all, my British friend. Our highest banknote remembers the Conquest of the Desert. That is certainly not an airbrush, don't you think? We know it was outrageous to kill five thousands natives. They weren't peaceful either. Their descendants today support our rightful sovereignity claim. On the other hand, how many millions around the globe gave their lives because of British colonialism? How many millions died because of wars created by Britain?
111jasy111 3 months ago
@111jasy111
It depends what you mean by "created by". Do you mean colonial wars, or just general wars? We had as many wars with other European countries over colonies as with colonial people themselves. Were it not for our colonialism many countries today would not exist, just like many South American countries, Argentina included, would not exist if it were not for the colonialism of Spain and Portugal. We are an ex colonial power, you are a country that exists only because of colonialism.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt The UK is not an "ex" colonial power, otherwise their colonies would not be on the UN list of non-decolonized territories. Also, our founding fathers had a different idea in mind liberated South America from the Spanish colonial yoke. Britain was behind the creation of different states, in order to benefit economically and keep us separated and divided. But we are all one people, and you can see it today since all Latin American countries want the British out of our islands.
111jasy111 3 months ago
@111jasy111 Not an ex-colonial power? All that stuff that your compatriots have told me about the "Empire is dead" is untrue then. I am aware that your founders may have wished to get away from the Spanish colonial yoke. Were it not for Spanish colonists there would have been no Argentina to self-liberate. Seeing as we are not Latin American (Latin died out here a long time ago) and nor are the Falklanders, we are under no obligation to comply with Mercosur's orders regarding our own territory.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Not a territory of the UK. For half a century the UN has officially recognized a sovereignity dispute and kept urging Argentina and the UK to solve it, yet the UK abuses its power and plays deaf. And Argentina kept complaining about this issue long time before the creation of the UN. The UK abandoned the islands for half a century, no flag was waving, no proof of ownership! After the creation of the Argentine state the UK suddenly "remembered" it was theirs. What? Sick!
111jasy111 3 months ago
@111jasy111
The UN's position is its standard neutral one in such disputes. Just like Gibraltar and the Southern Kuril Islands. Argentina didn't comply with UNSC resolution 502 either. The people you need to negotiate with are the islanders not us; we have shown clearly in 1982 we will not let the islanders be subjugated by you unless they wish it. If you want the islands, you should try to build relations with the people, not isolate and alienate them as your government does at the moment.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt The UN's position is not neutral at all regarding this subject. URGE WITHOUT DELAY TO SOLVE THE SITUATION is not neutral. This is a special case of colonialism according to the UN, since it's a colonial territory with no colonized people. Still the uk uses UN rights that were created in order to free oppressed people, not to secure impunity and maintain colonialism alive. And as long as only 5 countries have permanent seats at the UNSC there won't be full democracy at the UN.
111jasy111 3 months ago
@111jasy111
So if we use it to free oppressed people where is the problem? We used it in Libya, with the result that an unpopular dictator was overthrown and a massacre in Benhgazi was prevented.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Why you switch the subject to Libya? This is an old UN-recognized sovereignty dispute between Argentina and the UK, which dates from beyond the creation of the UN itself. It doesn't matter if long decades passed, we will never relinquish to our rightful claim. In a more equal world, this situation would have been solved long time before.
111jasy111 3 months ago
@111jasy111
Before you bang on again about the strong oppressing the weak, imagine how the people of the Falklands felt when your soldiers were taking dumps on their floors (I can train a dog better than that), beating them up for listening to the radio and locking the entire population of a town into a hall without proper sanitation, food, water or facilities to build a shelter to protect them from any fighting.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Somebody took a dump on a floor. Big deal. Despicable would have been to kill them all. Remember Argentina was under a military dictatorship imposed by the CIA like every military dictatorship on the region and perhaps the world. But at least a couple decades later we sent them all to jail, unlike our chilean brothers who couldn't send Pinochet and its junta to jail because of British help even though Pinochet was being prosecuted by the ICC for crimes against humanity.
111jasy111 3 months ago
@111jasy111
And what about the other things that Argentine troops did? Such as the disgracefull treatment of the inhabitants of Goose Green, and the treatment of prominent members of the community who were especially vociferously opposed to Argentine rule such as Bill Luxton who were thrown out fo their homes and deported to Britain. And the people who were beaten up by Argentine troops for listening to the radio. Argentina has yet to condemn those actions or apologise to their victims.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Are the islanders aware that we sent all those dictators to jail or it is another fact that Britain hides? Britain has yet to condemn Margaret Thatcher for supporting and granting impunity to murder dictator Augusto Pinochet while he was being prosecuted by the ICC. This happened just a few years ago. Perhaps is is OK for Britain to support crimes against humanity as long as it goes along with British interests in South America. You tell me.
111jasy111 3 months ago
@111jasy111 Argentina has punished the dictators, but what of those people lower down, such as Patricio Dowling, who is still remembered in the Islands for his brutality and lack of respect? Has Argentina apologised for the abuses to the civilians of the Falklands? I have never seen such an apology. Germany has apologised for its past dictatorships, we have apologised for things like the slave trade and Bloody Sunday, Russia for Katyn, now it's your turn.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt I don't know why that doesn't happen. I guess that as soon as the UK complies with several UN resolutions that kept urging both countries to solve the sovereignty issue - long time before 1982 - you can expect a huge amount of apologies from our side, otherwise it might be taken as an acceptance of British sovereignty by your country and that contradicts the UN.
Britain should apologize to Chile for granting impunity to their dictator Pinochet while he was being prosecuted.
111jasy111 2 months ago
@111jasy111
Considering Pinochet left for Chile anyway, I hardly think it is Chile whom we should apologise to. As I have said before the ones you need to negotiate with are the Islanders- they control their own future and you need to convince them-not us-that they would be better off Argentine. And the way you need to do that is to stop blockading them and denying their right to exist. A mature and sensible country does not try to charm people into giving up their land by starving them out.
Myles0Harcourt 2 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Most of them are already convinced-programmed by British dark forces so I can't see that happening. If Britain had only ¨talks¨ with us, given that you are the administrators, the situation might change. We are just following UN procedures. And although the argentine dictatorship was murderous and brutal, the islanders kept existing during the conflict in 1982. They could exist and keep existing although thousands of argentine couldn´t. Should be taken in consideration someday.
111jasy111 2 months ago
@111jasy111
After diplomatic relations were restored there was real dialogue between the Falklands and Argentina, and there were agreements in areas such as fisheries, research, transport and crucially oil. It's a shame that CFK's government has ripped it all up, especially the oil (Argentina might otherwise be able to look forward to big money). Real progress was made under president Menem, and it is a pity that CFK is going back on it and alienating the Falkland Islanders more than ever.
Myles0Harcourt 2 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Two weeks ago about 930 million barrels equivalent of shale oil were discovered in Patagonia. Oil is just a circumstance. Our cause does not originate in oil and you do know that. President Menem neo liberal policies brought collapse to Argentina in 2001. Perhaps that is what the masterminds behind the islanders psyche see as real progress: the destruction of Argentina's economy and hence destruction of Argentina's rightful sovereignty claims in the South Atlantic Ocean.
111jasy111 2 months ago
@111jasy111 I know that the original Argentine claims do not originate with oil (nor do ours) and if Argentina has discovered oil in Patagonia, good luck to you. But the fact that the Falklanders (whom Argentina says would be allowed to stay on the islands anyway) choose to exploit their own natural resources (it is run by FIG, not HMG) should not be an issue affecting Argentina unless Argentina would make direct profit from such oil, whereas the UK does not make any direct profit.
Myles0Harcourt 2 months ago
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@Myles0Harcourt Well, the problem is those natural resources are Argentinian.
Since 1999 we let flights from Chile not only cross our airspace but even do a stopover in our territory.
We've helped boosting the islands' economy since 1999, like we did in the mid 70s!
These indulgent benevolent policies must stop.
They will...
111jasy111 2 weeks ago
Argentina first claimed South Georgia in 1927, the South Shetland Islands in 1943, The South Orkney Islands in 1925 and the South Sandwich Islands in 1938.
Britain first claimed South Georgia in 1775 and cemented its claims further in 1908, along and claimed the other aforementioned islands in the same letters patent.
Even more than in the Falklands, these figures speak for themselves.
Myles0Harcourt 4 months ago
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
CONGRATULATIONS to Argentina - one single Falkland Islander has decided to take up Argentine citizenship, this means there are now only another 3,139 more to go; Did you know that the Faroe Islands are much nearer to Britain than they are to Denmark, but the Faroe Islands are Danish, do we claim they belong to us (the British) ? - No of course not.
Whitbywatcher 8 months ago 4
Do you know that yesterday an islander born in Malvinas, son of an islander who fought in the conflict of 1982, became an Argentine citizen? He was born in the islands in 1968 and he applied for the argentine nationality since he is an argentine citizen like all islanders. One day we will celebrate all together with beer and soccer match with Diego. Fuck England. Malvinas Argentinas.
111jasy111 8 months ago
@111jasy111
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Myles0Harcourt 4 months ago
Por ahora siguen siendo de ustedes bastardos ingleses. Esas islas son todas de argentina las malvinas sandwich y georgias un dia van a volver a quien les pertenece se hacen los pijas por los yankees y los chilenos que los ayudaron. De no ser por ellos ustedes se hubieran ido mas con el ojete roto de lo que se fueron. Inglaterra no existis!!!
MrMatiasARG 10 months ago
Fackland island r from us ! :)♥ Fackland ? whats that ? They r Malvinas Argentinas!♥
SabinaFlores 10 months ago
to be honest... this video... makes me want a sandwich.. ._."
KillerGuy96 1 year ago
MALVINAS-GEORGIAS-SANDWICH and ORCADAS are ARGENTINAS
VOLVEREMOS CARAJO!!!!
larraldero 1 year ago
@larraldero The Falklands are British and always will be and we will never let anyone take our land from us. Your country however thought we wold sit there and allow you to take away what is rightfully ours
God save the Queen
midgiemarsh 1 year ago
@larraldero The Falklands are British and always will be and we will never let anyone take our land from us. Your country however thought we would sit there and allow you to take away what is rightfully ours thats why you got your arses kicked
midgiemarsh 1 year ago
las malvinas son y seran argentinas entiendan piratas ladrones apropiadores de lo ajeno!!!
rusoargento1 1 year ago
Easy, ARGENTINA NEED NUCLEAR WEAPONS. and later sit to speak about te islands.
ISLAS MALVINAS ARGENTINAS.
bufixteam 1 year ago
@bufixteam Your territorial claims are quite amusing. You claim sovereignty over land that has been British before Argentina even existed.
midgiemarsh 1 year ago
@midgiemarsh fake and liar. The Malvinas were discovered in 1520 by Esteban Gómez, a crewman of the ship San Antonio, one of the vessels Magellan's expedition. as the demarcation of lands of the papal bulls, the islands belonged to Spain. However,British sailors, Dutch and French came to the islands on several occasions.
continue --->
bufixteam 1 year ago
@midgiemarsh In 1829 Vernet was appointed governor of the Malvinas. That same year Britain claimed its sovereignty over islands, winning discovery. In 1833 the nation took the Malvinas under their control, expelling authorities Creole. Since then, Argentina has never ceased to claim sovereignty over the archipelago.
questions??
bufixteam 1 year ago
@midgiemarsh and amusing are you, u have no idea about the Argentine nuclear power. maybe in the next round (nuclear war) you know the real hell.
bufixteam 1 year ago
@bufixteam there wont be a nuclear war. I don't think your government is stupid enough to start nuking over some small islands inhabited by people who don't want you to rule them. Thats why we liberated them from you. If you realise the people of the Falklands (Thats right FALKLANDS not Malvinas or whatever the hell you call them) want to be British. Keep your hands off what is rightfully ours and keep your hands off our people.
midgiemarsh 1 year ago
@midgiemarsh u have no idea man, maybe yes or maybe not, but Argentina have resourses to create nuclear missiles. we have alot of power to destroy anything. for the islands. Argentina is not Iraq man.. relax
And we have nothing to fear, we are a nuclear power. can destroy any enemy.
so go back OUR Islands and enjoy your queen in your country UK. Islas Malvinas Argentinas.
bufixteam 1 year ago
@bufixteam Well your country is fucking stupid then if your willing to start this kind of violence. One thing Iove is how you claim that we committed war crimes when your saying " were gonna nuke you". The Falklands are British always will be they hate you. We liberated them from you once before and we'll gladly do so again. You said you can destroy any enemy. WELL WE DESTROYED YOU
The Falklands are British and always will be. RULE BRITANNIA
midgiemarsh 1 year ago
@midgiemarsh man, Argentina have the purest natural uranium in the world. with 1 bomb we could leave a crater in Europe. EEUU know that, Germany, France, Holland, and others buy Argentine uranium.
Argentina have BIG balls, pirate.
bufixteam 1 year ago
@bufixteam I'm not talking about Uranium and also you don't seem to have big balls because we smashed your army to pieces because you dident appear to realise that we don't let anyone take what is ours by right. So what if you have Uranium lets look at the facts here. Your government is not stupid enough to go and nuke innocent people over a group of small islands. the only reason you claim sovereignty is because they are close to you.
midgiemarsh 1 year ago
@midgiemarsh but with one nuclear bomb in the islands u die all, you army, you air craft and all the people. u have no chance.
bufixteam 1 year ago
@bufixteam But we still have them AFTER 200+ years.Even after a war were you got the SHIT kicked out of you in 3 weeks.
They will reamain British even if you claim in "1800's" this or that.You think that really MEANS anything? If it did half the maps in the world would have to be redrawn.NEWSFLASH!! America's not going to Give back TEXAS AND your not getting the islands back.ITS OVER.
As "Nuking" the Islands only a IDIOT would use a weapon of mass distruction.
Argentina would be a smoking HOLE!
TrentVenture 9 months ago
@TrentVenture Now, now. It's only impossible for Argentina to get the islands "back" because it never had them. We Brits settled in the (uninhabited) Falklands etc before their country even existed.
JBMontgomery87 9 months ago
@bufixteam Argentina doesn't even have nuclear weapons. But even if it did, do you really want the Falklands so badly that'd you'd destroy them and murder all the people there?
JBMontgomery87 9 months ago
@bufixteam Dumbass, Argentina doesnt have the capability to make a nuke let alone launch one, not to mention get one passed our defenses. We would blow it out of the sky and then send one back and watch you all burn.
TheLahness 6 months ago
@bufixteam The Faeroe Islands are closer to Britain and Iceland then they are to Denmark but we don't claim they are ours because we respect they are Danish you take a tip and accept that the Falklands are a lost cause because they are British and will be forever.
midgiemarsh 1 year ago
@midgiemarsh MALVINAS are Argentinas. and u need back OUR Islands. u have no right in the MALVINAS.
bufixteam 1 year ago
@bufixteam You keep changing the subject. Your never gonna nuke them the Falklands are ours and always will be now i cannae be bothered with you anymore tonight because you keep changing the subject and don't have any response other than we have Nukes
So this message i do send. If you return we'll take you on again and drive you out of land again
Falkland Islands forever British. RULE BRITANNIA, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
goodbye
midgiemarsh 1 year ago
@midgiemarsh Argentina's proximity to the Falklands (British) means that Great Britain could claim Argentina, following bufixteam's "logic"." Why should this "it's mine because I'm close to it" rubbish only work one way 'round?
JBMontgomery87 9 months ago
@bufixteam Big balls which shrivelled into wee raisins after GB kicked them up into its stomach in '82?
JBMontgomery87 9 months ago
PIRATES!! FUCKING BRITISH PIGS
LOBILLO7200 1 year ago
@LOBILLO7200 Thats hypocritical
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
Son Argentinas !!!
almafuerte221 1 year ago
Muy bueno el himno.
Arrouzet 1 year ago
Muy bueno el himno.
Arrouzet 1 year ago
Muy bueno el himno.
Arrouzet 1 year ago
That is not the national anthem of my country! It should start "Oid mortales el grito sagrado, libertad, libertad, libertad"
Vivamigeneral 1 year ago
@Vivamigeneral ,are you from south georgia,i think not?!
bazzatheblue 1 year ago
Nobody lives there, you should know that.
Vivamigeneral 1 year ago
@Vivamigeneral ,only the great Shackleton ,who lies at rest there.RIP
bazzatheblue 1 year ago
"I hate Arsenal, I hate all english teams, I hate England national team, I hate England and I hate the United Kingdom!"
That pretty much sums you up.
Jeolousy is such a bad habbit you have
triangleshapedcheese 1 year ago
Our the people living in the places voted to remain part of Britain.
You uneducated idiot
triangleshapedcheese 1 year ago
British forever. quite amusing that you still make a claim. we know not the option of surrendering. rule brittania forever!
tanker82 1 year ago
uj lakasumanta kjoñayki llojsichisajki.
sua
deybipuntual 2 years ago
Pirates bastards destroyed the world with their invasions.
eupatrida 2 years ago
Um we Destoryed the world with are invasions Well that is funny becuase you do know that at the same time
the Spainish French Portugese Dutch Belgiun forces where doing the exact same thing funny that it is all Britians fault
especially when Spain started the Era of European Colionization Silly Idiot
thebritish25 2 years ago
@thebritish25 Well, it is only unfortunate to you Breits that while every other Empire gave their colonies independence, you are still using them for your advantage. People who don't even speak your language. I would want you to think about that for a minute instead of spewing out the nationalist shit in your brain.
VintageJunior 1 year ago
@VintageJunior Well that is funny becuase the Keelpers ancestors come from Scotland before that they where uninhabited there for we had the Islands before Argantina was a nation.
Every other nation huh France Reunion Kergulen Martinuqe Guadeloupe New Caldonia Crozet St Paul Clipperton Amsterdam Islands ans Tubaui Islands not to mention French Polynesia
Port Cape Verde Azores Maderia Islands
Nor Bouvet Peter II Ian Mayen Islands
Spain only the Cannary Islands they ...
thebritish25 1 year ago
@VintageJunior could not keep there colonialists on a leash and lost them to Revalution while the French Paraded over Iberia and then what little left to the Americans e.t Cuba Guam the Philipeens and there last influences over Mexico.
for are advantage eh the Islanders voted to be British or Argantine 98% said stay British.
the UN condemed the invasion and Argantina failed with both the dove and the bayonet the people who live there dont want to be Argantinian all you want is the Oil ..
thebritish25 1 year ago
@VintageJunior you should thank us we over threw Galiteri and his Facist scum to was all to cover up the dirty war.
tell me the Cannary Is are closer to Morrocco but are Spanish
Cyprus is closer to Turkey but is Greek
Alaska is closer to Cannada but is Amercan
Farous Is is closer to Britian but is Danish
Corisca is closer to Italy but is French
Kuril Is are on Japans door step but are Russian
Falklands are Closer to Argantina but are British
Why becuase they want to be think about
thebritish25 1 year ago
@VintageJunior it before you start to belive the Nazism of Argantine Propaganda you did not hide the Nazis for no reason
thebritish25 1 year ago
los piratas ladrones no entienden los mapas.
TheNuevaola 2 years ago
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eupatrida 2 years ago
ehh?? las islas georgias y sandwich del sur son argentinas, las islas malvinas si son territorio de inglaterra lamentablemente, peroo lass otras dos no! esas si que son argentinass!! ingleses hdp! los odioo profundamente,, !
seconectofacu 2 years ago
You got slaughtered in 2 months go away Falklands is British.
mastercheff1216 2 years ago 10
Sorry to interrupt...
I didn't know where to put this.
I've always asked myself, especially after seeing it on G. Earth, why is the far South, meaning everything that surrounds Antarctica, the McDonald & Heard islands, generally every territory that's from around 40 S to the south, so cloudy.
Every day I check on G. Earth, those territories are drowned in massive cloud formations, and I really can't see the reason.
Thank you!
TheOnlyKtulu 2 years ago
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They are Argentinian, sorry UK u dont have geographic, historic, not even legal reasons to discusse!!!
bernardoviolista 2 years ago
Well...who's flag to you see flying? who's anthem do you hear? take a map and LOOK at it..."discusse" that!
paulm1285 2 years ago
who won the Falklands War?
by rights and legality, they're ours
kanenkitten 2 years ago 16
I'm glad i am owned by you guys
FTXV 7 months ago
@kanenkitten Todas las provocaciones tienen consecuencias...
OJOVECTOR 5 months ago
WE dont have Historic or Legal Reasons to discuse what have you been Living in a crater on the moon with your eyes shut and your fingers in your ears for the last 177.3 years
thebritish25 2 years ago
federicoscherma las malvinas son y seran siempre inglesas lo siento
largo7100 2 years ago
Malvinas , Islas Georgias del sur, POR SIEMPRE ARGENTINAS. VOLVEREMOS..
federicoscherma 2 years ago
Take on the chin Argentina....These islands are always and shall always be.
Although, why on Earth do these islands even have a national anthem when they aren't inhabited??
Las islas son ingles :)
DonSimonUK 2 years ago
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!
sal7t5 2 years ago
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no son argentinas ni britanicas son de los isleños
freakliberator 3 years ago
son argentinas, mother fuckers!!!
laromanarockdepie 3 years ago
Por si no lo saben estas islas son Argentinas , si senor Argentinas !!
Islas Malvinas .Islas Orcadas . Islas Georgias y sandwichs del sur por siempre
ARGENTINAS..
IF YOU DONT KNOW THATS ISLANDS ARE ARGENTINAS
elgauchoboliviano 3 years ago
I thought those places had no trees. What's with the trees in the backround.
sedna69a 3 years ago
great song
nathanhitman1 3 years ago
que es esto??
FrankovPM 3 years ago
Las Islas Georgias del Sur son un archipiélago subántartico en disputa, bajo administración británica forman parte del Territorio Británico de Ultramar de las Islas Georgias del Sur y Sandwich del Sur.
Un saludo
ausspan 3 years ago