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  • anything that is man made campaign will always FAIL why? You take the fish out of the ocean and put it in clear water it will surely die, You take the bird out of the sky and put it in the ocean it will surely die, You take a Man out of the Kingdom principle system and put Man in democracy/communist/republic/m­afia/gangster/pimps/junkie/gam­bler/clubs/religion Man will surely die

  • Overall, I think this is documentary does a good job at explaining the circumstances behind the rise of Nazism. I give this a thumbs up.

  • @HarryPothead6009 No! There are no fascists today.

  • Complete nonsense! Why don't the authors expose the role that Stalin has played in bringing SHitler to power by forbidding Rot Front forming an alliance with the Social Democrats? Of course between two left wing ideologies, communist and nazis, business would go with the least of two evils (from economic perspective)

  • @YamaniNetsi In what way in Nazism a left wing ideology, they hated socialists and communists, hitler had no interest what so ever in ideas such as class and indeed cosyed up to big business, not to mention the unprecedented discrimination and intolerance of certain groups, an extreme far right ideal

  • @arru23 Bolshevism was likewise extremely intolerant of minority ethnic groups, in particular Ukrainians. Like the Bolsheviks, they certainly did oppose rival socialist factions - but that did not stop them from forming an alliance-of-convenience with the Bolsheviks in 1939, mainly to help both factions split Eastern Europe between them. As for class conflict, to Hitler the ideas of Marx directed against capitalists applied in particular to the Jews.

    In fact, Marx himself said similar things.

  • @YamaniNetsi

    Hitler was a Rightist.

  • @YamaniNetsi

    As this excellent film points out, he was helped into power by the RIGHT!

  • And so with help from the bourgeoisie the Nazi's won the 1933 elections. By 1934 Germany was a totalitarian dictatorship and all who opposed Hitler were silenced.

    The Stalinist KPD and the social democratic SPD were outlawed and soon the right-wing parties followed. Yet many right-wing people simply traded their old party for the NSDAP. The Reichstag faction of the German National People's Party ( DNVP ) joined the NSDAP.

  • Grate doco

  • @HarryPothead6009 Ding ding ding. 

  • @HarryPothead6009 The GOP are no traditional conservatives. The last traditional conservative president was Calvin Coolage. IN fact George W. Bush is, by action, one of the most liberal presidents in US history.

  • @translucentorb Oh dear God that shit cracked me up. LOL! *Facepalm*

  • @LittlePinky82 Dr. Cruel 1, LittlePinky82 -1

  • @translucentorb Go be a whore to someone who gives a damn. You're just shitting around thinking you're cute. Well guess what. You aren't. So fuck off. Welcome to ignore with your stupid spam shit. Go fuck off.

  • @LittlePinky82 fuckity fuckity fuckity... fuck fuck fuck... hey you've made your point, and your logic is obviously flawless. Can't argue with that. lol

    DrCruel 1, LittlePinky82 -2

  • @translucentorb You're a troll so fuck off. Welcome to ignore dumbshit. If you want to live in your sick fairy tales that's your deal. Now fuck off and leave me the hell a lone with your stupid ass self. Go bother someone else fuck shit.

  • Incidentally, the Communists were correct. When the Marxists helped Hitler into power, they assumed he would ruin the country, and "then it would be their turn". It was - in East Germany, for half a century, with a regime which one historian of the times called the "Fourth Reich". And with the Stasi, secret prisons and the Berlin Wall, this regime was indeed practically indistinguishable from the Nazis they replaced.

    For a time, they even used the same concentration camps.

  • @DrCruel Ah more of the "both sides do it" shit.  You're an idiot who should be ignored so fuck off.

  • @LittlePinky82 About the closest you're going to get to admitting I'm right.

    Feel free to take your own advice. I don't particularly want to be compelled to respond to a deliberately deceptive and insulting nitwit like you. But if you insist on peddling your bullshit in here, I'll simply keep on correcting you, making you look like an idiot, and otherwise inconvenience your nasty agenda.

  • @DrCruel You're a dumbshit so bitch to someone who gives a damn. You're not correcting shit or doing anything. You're a fuck shit who is a racist asshole so fuck off bitch.

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  • @DennisBillington

    You were being sarcastic right?

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  • what is the title of the song at 5:11?

  • This Helped to Power episode reminds me of Chile's history, and what is happening in the US--the right pushing an extremist group in both cases, and one that could lead to another Fascist government in the upcoming American election(s).

  • The Communists in Germnay wanted to fight Hitler.....Their understood the nature of the Nazi beast.................

  • @Indul1

    Hitler understood the nature of the Marxist beast... Remember, communism killed many more people than Nazism.

  • @TaqiyyaExposer And communists have also fought for people to have civil rights including here in the U.S. I suggest you do a little research on the CPUSA and their long history of fighting for civil rights and justice. Ignorance is pathetic.

  • @LittlePinky82

    Why if it isn't the retard from the other page.. Go and drown yourself you piteous red loser. Nazism fought for civil rights too, the rights of the Germans to be sovereign and free from Jewish oppression. The rights for white people to lead their own country, and to create a prosperous white homeland for all posterity.

    Layoff the Bolshevistic agitprop and stop hating Western culture, i know your kind.

  • @TaqiyyaExposer You're a stupid ass shit. You know jack shit. Nazis weren't fighting for civil rights you idiot. They were fighting for murder, genocide and the rights to be a piece of shit towards a fellow human being. What Jewish oppression? More like delusional piece of shit crap. Jewish people have white skin too you dumbshit moron. Lay off the bullshit yourself piece of crap idiot.

  • @LittlePinky82

    You're a complete retard...

  • @TaqiyyaExposer You really showed me with your bullshit about retards. LOL! Fuck off with your racist pathetic self.  Go bitch to someone who gives a damn.

  • @LittlePinky82

    Yes Yes... You're still a retard.

  • @TaqiyyaExposer You're being kind. I think he's an obnoxious, bald-faced liar. Either way, he does seem to favor Left-wing fascism.

  • @LittlePinky82

    now you have labeled people sexist, fascist, racist... I am sick of your 'ists' especially that you're of the worst kinds; a Marxist, a cultural relativist and a feminist...

  • @TaqiyyaExposer Maybe you should stop being those things eh?

  • @LittlePinky82

    Or maybe i should remain all those things and add one, a rapist, when i find your mother.

  • @TaqiyyaExposer And you're still a racist mother fucker.

  • @Indul1 Of course and we always will. My past comrades were really the only one's out there fighting at least at the beginning (other groups like the White Rose Society came a long too eventually). You should check out a book by an author named Chris Hedges called "American Fascism." He talks about his father who was around at that time in Germany (I believe) and how his father was annoyed only the communists were fighting and everyone else sat on their asses.

  • The fantastic thing about this series for me as someone who has studied National Socialism for a long time is the use of Primary sources, NOT some historian droning on giving presupossition and opinion, but those who were there and involved. Of course, one must weigh up what they say in the light of scholarship but nevertheless, Primary sources are gold!

  • My favorite are the unrepentant Nazis. They fill out the cartoon picture of Hitler that has developed over the years. Whether you love him or hate him, he was a profoundly talented individual who had the ability to tap into the Spiritual. But the cartoon image of him portrays him as a complete buffoon. The more people believe that he was a buffoon the sooner it will be that he reappears. You have to embrace and not deny facts.

  • DrCruel's argument is based entirely on his own lack of knowledge of communist thought as having several competing tendencies. In the original IWA, there was the Marx-Bakunin split which epitomised the two wings - Anarchists, Left-Communists, Councilists, Syndicalists and Libertarians on one 'wing' and what would become Marxist-Leninism on the other, the main distinction being on revolutionary organisation and the state.

  • @MrConsideration I am quite familiar with the splits between these competing gangs of seditionist thugs. All of them were selling a future utopia, that would only come about once their respective gang was in absolute control.

    Marxism is tha Amway of political ideologies. All the Left-wing ideologies and spinoffs that followed - including Nazism - are all basically pyramid schemes.

  • @DrCruel Crass simplifications is hardly the same thing as 'understanding'. How an explicitly non-hierarchal movement as expressed in Anarcho-Syndicalist/ Councilist organisations is a pyramid scheme is quite beyond me.

    'Left/Right wing' is a meaningless and incompatible sliding scale of ill-fitting parts based on the politics of 1805 - so I'll not piss around arguing who is closer to Hitler on an arbitrary meaningless chart.

  • @MrConsideration Because Leftists are hypocrites. THe ideology is a means of convincing people at teh bottom of the pyramid to put the Leftists into power. Once the elites have power they dispose of the idealists and enslave the pyramid base.

    The best example of this, in regards the anarchists, would be the history of the CNT during the Spanish Civil War.

  • @DrCruel The Nazi's 'socialist' wing, grouped around a younger Goebbels, Ernst Rohm and working-class members of the SA which explicitly called for revolution and the destruction of Germany's aristocracy. The Nazi party of 1934, in cabinet with the DNVP, wiped out this tendency utterly and in 1926 Hitler had already outmanouvered and purged these people - renouncing the 25-point-programme and it's socialistic aspects. Nazi propaganda was all things to all men.

  • so it was economic circumstances well that sounds like something out of control since the whole world suffered and that is destiny!!!

  • boo hitler

  • This series is pure judaeo-xian controller tyranny propaganda full of lies and distortions. try getting educated to REALITY by facts and records

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  • not a word said about Hindenburgs embarasing tax evasion on his junker estates. that was the real reason behind his reluctantly giving Hitler the chancelelorship

  • Along these lines, I once heard the argument that a Black person cannot be racist, and that a woman could not be sexist, using similar arguments.

    The again, I've heard Marxists try to defend their "alliance of convenience" with Nazis and Muslim fundamentalists. Clearly they do not condescend to be fettered by the oppressive bourgeois shackles of logic or reason, to say nothing of common sense. They are the ultimate pragmatists and, like an octopus, always have a smear of ink to cover for it.

  • Yawn. You're boring.

  • And you're insulting and ignorant. At least I have the virtue of being correct.

  • Bah! What hilarious shit you're spewing. Hilarious. I love people like you because you're so hilarious and provide plenty of entertainment. Thanks for the fun but unlike you I actually have a life so I'm done wasting my time with you. You don't deserve it.

  • You're certainly free to bugger off at any time. I assure you, no one will miss you.

    If you choose to persist, however, I will continue to point out your foolery and support my points regardless. Stomping you foot or holding your breath will do you no good whatsoever.

  • A myth perpetrated by socialists is that everyone is to be given the same opportunities as the next person regardless of race, class etc. In practice, like the Nazis, the party members control all the wealth and rule like despots, while the workers are compelled to work for virtually nothing through the use of Party-orchestrated propaganda, terrorism and force. And Marxist groups invariably champion the dominant race of the region they conquer.

    That is how Marxists are like Nazis, you cretin.

  • No hon. Keep trying. Maybe one day you'll get it. But you're such a dumbass I bet you never will. Once again dumbshit we don't care about race and all the other pathetic nonsense. Aw how cute. You're trying to insult me. Yawn.

  • Actually Marxists play races off against each other. Even with this provisio, virtually all Marxist movements, like thenazis, have a "favored race" and persecute ethnic minorities. As the Nazis favored Germans over Jews and Slaves, so Bolsheviks favor Russians against Ukranians, Maoists favor the Han Chinese over Tibetans, the Vietnamese communists favor the north Vietnamese over the Hmong, and so on.

    If you don't like being insulted, don't try so hard to deserve it.

  • No hon. And you're in no position to talk about insults. You just opening your mouth is an insult.

  • We're talking first term you ignorant bitch. Obama's first term approval rating is the lowest ever at this point....fact.

  • Hahaha. Aw how cute. You're trying to insult me. Hmm well being called a bitch by a right wing boob is an honor.

  • LittleMoron82 - So what was Stalin and the Soviet Union? Left, fascist commies.

  • Hon this is the last time I am saying this. Politically it is IMPOSSIBLE to be both left wing and fascist. You either are fascist or are left wing. Dumbshit.

  • Actually, being Left wing and fascist are, in general, virtually synonymous.

    Not that this would be the first time you'd be wrong, mind.

    Of course it's much more complicated than that, but I wouldn't bother to further try explaining to you the various details. You don't seem to be all that handy with complicated ideas.

  • I think the typical Left-wing moonbat would try to argue that the Soviet Union had a "state-capitalist" economy, or some similar nonsense.

    Mind, none of this during the USSR's prime. Back in the early 1980's the Soviet Union could do no wrong by these characters. But now that they're "in the dustbin of history", contemporary Marxists are very keen to distance themselves from their most publicized disaster (to date). Meanwhile the number of Trotskyite Left fascists in the ISO has gone way up.

  • Once again showing what a dumbshit you are.

  • @HokiesAndDawgs You're an idiot. You're either a fascist or you're not. Stupid fuck. Stop listening to dumbshits like Jonah Goldberg. Politics 101 you idiot moron

  • @LittlePinky82

    Idiocy runs in your family. As it does for all communist pieces of shit.

  • @LittlePinky82 And Martin Malia. And James Bradford DeLong (at Berkeley). And a number of other recognised scholars on the subject, who've said more or less the same things..

    Incidentally, Jonah Goldberg does not claim Marxism is synonymous with fascism. The truth is much more nuanced than that. But you'd have to give his book an honest read to find out the particulars, and I doubt you're inclined.

  • @DrCruel Uh huh I'm sure "scholars" you like and ignore those who say other wise. Stupid ass.

  • @DrCruel As I've said to others: bitch to someone who gives a damn. If you want to be a moron that's your problem not mine. I've got better things to do than to listen to a moron. So fuck off bitch.

  • @LittlePinky82 And yet here you remain, peddling your bullshit and addressing it to me.

    For someone who doesn't want to say anything, you do generate an inordinate amount of crapola.

    Like I said. Take your own advice. Feel free to bugger off at any time, monkey boy.

  • @DrCruel My last comment to you: not everyone you speak to on the internet is a male like you.  Stop being a sexist. There are us women online too idiot. Now I'm done with your shit.

  • @LittlePinky82 Or not, as you've already established yourself as a shameless liar.

    Nazism was closest in political form to the Leftism of Marxist Bolshevism. Fascism began as a Leftist movement in Italy. Deal with it. Or bugger off. I don't really care which.

  • @DrCruel My response: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! So freakin hilarious! Truly an idiot. Oh dear God thank you for making me laugh. Oh that was good. Oh my sides are hurting from laughing so hard.

  • @DrCruel Are you a comedian? Seriously? Cause that's some truly hilarious shit. LOL!

  • @LittlePinky82 Dr. Cruel 1 LittlePinky82 0

  • @translucentorb Blah blah blah.

  • @DrCruel You're correct on that sir. Its why the NSDAP is commonly reffered to as National SOCIALISM. Its quite simple... Some other people in the these comments can't really understand that.

  • @translucentorb I don't think it's out of ignorance. Leftists are habitual liars, and are very good at it.

    Incidentally, I'm a liberal progressive - in the classic sense. I don't think it's justified to call a group of people that want to disembowel the US Constitution in favor of a totalitarian, feudal kleptocracy "liberals". Nor are anti-industrial Luddites that deface eco-science with Green politics "progressive" either. They aren't "liberal" or "progressive" in any way, shape or form.

  • @DrCruel You're a dumbass.

  • @LittlePinky82 Actually I'm correct about what I've said, which is much better. And fuck you too.

  • @DrCruel Sure hon. Whatever helps you sleep at night. If you want to believe fairy tales that's your deal.

  • @LittlePinky82 More like, if I want to amass a considerable knowledge on the topic, read the relevant works on the subject, and then make a valid (indeed, an entirely obvious) assertion, I should then not let a Left fascist try to browbeat me into accepting Marxian bullshit on the matter.

    Like I said, ducky.

  • @DrCruel Sure hon. Keep living in fantasy land. Reality can be tough sometimes I know. Fantasy land makes it all better I'm sure. *rolls eyes*

  • @LittlePinky82 It helped me as a wargame playtester well enough. I've prospered rather well as a history tutor too.

    Wallow in ignorance if you like. You seem rather suited to it.

  • @DrCruel Sure hon. I'm the ignorant one lol. Like I said if you like fairy tales that's your deal. Now have a nice life. I'm done with you. Enjoy your fairy tales. Maybe someday you'll join reality, but until then enjoy. Bye.

  • @LittlePinky82 Yeah, that's right. You are the ignorant one, "hon". Lots of love. And you've already said your goodbyes twice - no need to belabour the point.

    Maybe next time you should do a bit of research before pontification on things you have no knowledge of. You'd avoid some public embarassment in the process, and maybe even learn something.

  • @DrCruel Keep making the funnies hon. Always a crack up. Bye bye.

  • @LittlePinky82 You seem to like long goodbyes. You also seem to think that facts and logic are "funny".

    Here's another joke for ya then - the Nazis and Marxists haven't been this close ideologically since 1939. Nowadays they're practically on the same page as far as anti-Semitism is concerned. Go figure, huh?

  • @DrCruel My last response. I'm cracking the fuck up! Commies and Nazi's have always hated each other hon. You seem to like to trout out about facts and shit. You and facts with that garbage you're spewing? Hilarious. Open up a history book hon and shut the fuck up.

  • @LittlePinky82 Giggle. Guffaw out loud if you like. Or not. The facts remain as they are, and the fact is that the Nazis were socialist - in fact, quite authentically more so than the Bolsheviks themselves.

    Trotskyites and Stalinists hated each other too. Both called each other fascists, and lots of other nasty things. Marxist factions have a notorious habit of killing off members of rival Marxian sects, or even contenders for Supreme Leader within their own factions.

    And fuck you too hon.

  • @DrCruel

    Hitler the father of privitsation a socialist?

    Another lie!

  • @MrReco12 Hitler the socialist, the man who nationalized German industry and made it the slave of his National Socialist state apparatus - this man is the "opposite" of socialism?

    Another Leftist lie! Throw this one on their mountain of lies!

  • @DrCruel

    Hitler did not nationalize industry. he privatized industry:

  • @MrReco12 Hitler maintained national control over all industry in Germany. The Nazis set prices and quotas for production - they decided what they wanted and what they would pay for it. German industry was nationalized in all but name. Likewise they did dispose of rival trade unions, but also established the German Labor Front.

  • @DrCruel

    Rubbish.

    "It is a fact that the government of the National Socialist Party sold off public ownership in several state-owned firms in the middle of the 1930s. "

  • @DrCruel

    As a leading buisnessman in Nazi Germany, Alfried Krupp said:

    "The economy needed a steady or growing development. Because of the rivalries between the many political parties in Germany and the general disorder there was no opportunity for prosperity. ... We thought that Hitler would give us such a healthy environment. Indeed he did do that. "

  • @MrReco12 Alfried Krupp was also a loyal Nazi supporter. As a reward he was given control over industries seized as Nazi Germany expanded, most notably the Skoda works. Through his connections in government he was able to swallow up other German companies into his "firm" as well. In return he supplied Nazi Germany with some of the most advanced weapons in the world at the time.

    This is like trying to prove Stalin was a "rightist" because of his business relationship with Henry Ford.

  • @DrCruel

    Most of the old German capitalist families were supporters of the Nazis. Because they knew that Hitler supported them.

    Right don;t believe in "libertarianism" , they believe in Fascism.

  • @MrReco12 Most of the German capitalists were not part of ongoing "families" of capitalists, and quite a few of them were Jews. Old German aristocratic families supported the DNVP, not the NSDAP - since the NSDAP, or Nazis, were anti-monarchist Leftists and socialists. Indeed, after the Nazis took power parties like the DNVP were dissolved.

    Leftists don't believe in social justice. They are opportunists and racists. Most of them are fascists.

  • @DrCruel

    DNVP supported Hitler's enabling act along with the catholic center party. Which parties opposed it?

    Social democrats and the communists.

    "They are opportunists and racists"

    Perfect way to describe the Right. In the 19th and 20th century they wanted the Jews expelled from Europe and now they are focusing their hatred on the Muslim population!

  • @MrReco12 It was the Bolsheviks who were responsible for the Holodomor. It was the Khmer Rouge who were responsible for the killing fields of Cambodia. At present, Palestinian groups affiliated with the Left are amongst the foremost anti-Semitic organizations in the world (with the "Bolivarians" of Hugo Chavez not far behind).

    And of course, the national socialists of Germany were responsible for the mass killings of Jews.

    That's right. Leftists are opportunist racists. And worse.

  • @DrCruel

    Please learn history. The Famine in the Ukraine and the killing fields of Cambodia had nothing to do with race.

    However, these rightwing mass killings did:

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    The Nazi's referred to Martin Luther as their inspiration when it came to Jews, they also admire the pogroms of Tsarist Russia!

    The Right have always been the racists, the recent norwegian killings shows that nothing has changed!

  • @MrReco12 Please recheck the facts. The Bolshevik slaughter of the Ukranians and the Cambodian slaughter of indigenous Vietnamese peoples was very much based on race. For their own part, the Vietnamese may have killed about half a million Cambodian civilians when they invaded the country to "rescue" it, as well as virtually exterminated the Hmong at home. Nor are these the only cases of Leftist-run ethnic genocides.

    The Left has always been made up of liars and killers. Nothing has changed.

  • @DrCruel

    As for the Hmong, thousands also fought on the communist side.

  • @DrCruel

    Another point: RIghtwing democrat: Oxymoron.

  • @DrCruel : Yeah half a million is horrible to imagine. But how can you try to shrug off the extermination of millions of Jews. Not to mention the destruction and chaos it created, resonated to continents across the world. 

  • @llcasanova True. But the Nazis were socialists. They were just selling a rival Leftist brand of socialist products.

    Remember kids: National Socialism is NOT an oxymoron. It's actually the norm for Leftist movements. Practically every socialist movement has been nationalist.

  • @DrCruel So very true. I think its the racism, thing that has the left reviling in horror at the mere mention that nazis/fascists and socialists are all brothers. Take racism out of the fascist equation and who can tell the difference? Fact is whether or not one believes in racism or multiculutralism is irrelevant. Any system of government where the state is dominant in the economy amongst other areas is essentially socialist.

  • @translucentorb

    translucentorb & Dr Cruel: -10

    LittlePinky82: 10

    Sorry, your side of politics put Hitler in power because they agreed with him about Marxism,that it had to be destroyed, and free enterprise defended.

  • @MrReco12 Leftists hate libertarianism because it opposes statism. Marxists hate Nazis because they are competing brands of the same product.

    Score that one, Bright Eyes.

  • I don't have to open my mouth to type in a response.

    You really are hilarious. Go on - write something else. This is fun. ( :

  • The brown shirts (the tea baggers of the 20th century)

  • The brown shirts are the ones who voted for Odumma....the Idiot In Chief. The tea baggers are saying no to SOCIALISM you fucking idiot.

  • hahahaha you're one stupid republican pos.

  • Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you're one ignorant liberal POS.

    Stupidity must run in your family....48% approval for Obama...LOWER than at the same point for Bush in 2001.

    Meaning, Obama is on pace to be BY FAR the worst president in history in terms of approval rating.

    LOL

  • HAHAHAHAHAH  very funny .......your being ironic right?

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHAHAHAH you voted a guy who has driven our country into the toilet. Great job.

  • Bush's lowest approval rating was in the 20's hon. He had ratings worse than Nixon. Don't twist history shit head.

  • Not after his first year in office, you sanctimonious nitwit.

    I really appreciate your running commentary. It's a great aid for showing just what sort of hypocritical, nasty, lying turds your typical Left fascists are.

    Please, let's have another stream of your witless, invective strewn drivel so that we might mock you some more. It's becoming fun trying to predict what new pearl of stupidity will come from you next.

  • Yawn. Left wingers can't be fascists hon. It's impossible. Once again you're either left wing or a fascist. Not both. Before you call other people nitwits get that basic concept right. Political Science 101 hon.

  • Lol. They're fascists that's why who supported Bush and the shit he did and his policies are still effecting to this day. You're a dumbass.

  • And now that President Obama is engaged in exactly the same policies, literally copying the previous administration, he is suddenly representative of "hope and change"?

    Are you aware of just how stupid you sound? You don't seem to be.

  • Hon I'm a Communist. I don't care.

  • Yes, we know you're a commie. We know you love the good ole government to control everything and that you love dictatorship. Move to North Korea.

  • Sorry hon but we commies live everywhere. Get over it.

  • there is some very dubious logic throught out this doc, eg. 3.58...actually quite weakly written i think, quite apart from the inevitable vague-liberal perspective

  • Actually, the documentary seems to make a good case for power by circumstance.

  • I feel the same way when I see communists marching around. The Nazis and Marxists are all basically the same damned thing.

  • And as a communist you're a damn moron if you think we're anything like Nazi pigs.

  • 100 million corpses says different.

    If you want to admit to being a Marxist pig, that's to your detriment. I'd be a damned moron if I respected you for it.

  • Hahahaa And how many have been killed in the last eight yrs from conservative capitalists? Please. And I don't think I asked for your respect. Why would I want a pig to respect me? Gross.

  • Most people throughout the last eight years have depended on conservative capitalism for their livelihoods. Chinese communist "capitalism", on the other hand, is something different.

    I'd assume having a pig not respect you would be a violation of professional courtesy. Not my problem, mind - I'm more worried about one of you louts getting into power and recreating Stalinism.

    Nothing personal. I don't like your Natrional Socialist cousins either.

  • LOL. Nazi's and us aren't cousins dumbass. We have nothing in common and we both hate each other. Oh and not every communist is a Stalinist you dumbshit. If you think every communist thinks a like you're a moron. Oh and if the Chinese are doing any type of capitalism they aren't Communist's. Hell they aren't communist's period. At least not since Chairman Mao (rip). And pigs don't deserve professional courtesy.

  • Only metaphorically speaking, of course. What I mean to say is that Nazism, Bolshevism, and other forms of Leftist socialist totalitarianism are virtually identical as far as political systems go.

    Mind, I don't think every Left fascist thinks alike on all issues. For one, they differ greatly on what sort of people they claim to have a right to rob, enslave and murder. Nazis also tend to be more honest about their racism than Marxists.

    And you're right. You don't deserve any courtesy.

  • Hon Nazi's aren't left wing you moron.

  • Yes they are you ignorant buffoon. They're socialists.

  • HAHAHA! One key thing in socialism is EVERYONE is given the same opportunities as the next person regardless of race, class etc. Now how the fuck is that like Nazi's you damn moron.

  • Because Marxists murder people on the basis of CLASS, while Nazis murder people on the basis of RACE.

    And what was the Jewish crimes, according to Nazis? No less than what Marx himself claimed - Jews engaged in capitalist enterpreneurship, banking and speculation - just as much a crime amongst Nazis as it was amongst Bolsheviks.

    That's how the fuck, you outrageous Left-fascist asshole.

  • Yawn. No hon. And no I'm not a fascist. I'm a communist. God what a moron.

  • Communism = Left fascism. And for someone so keen to comment on the intelligence of others, you've again been very careful not to show any yourself.

    When I call you a witless arse, it's not necessarily as an insult. More as descriptive fact. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

  • Once again left wingers being fascist is impossible. You can not be both.  Political Science 101.

  • They werent they were anti communist......they INVADED THE SOVIET UNION ffs and killed millions of russians.

  • After they INVADED POLAND with the Soviet Union AS THEIR ALLIES.

    And the Bolsheviks KILLED MORE SOVIET CITIZENS BEFORE THE WAR than the Nazis would THROUGHOUT THE WAR.

    Try to sell your take to someone who doesn't know better. I'm educated.

  • Hitler made Russia allies early in the war so he wouldnt have to worry about being attacked by them while he dealt with britain and france. It was a nessesary deal for hitler and when he turned his panzer divisions against Russia in 41 it began a war that killed 30 MILLION russians....with friends like that who needs enemys.

  • The casualty rate for the Nazi invasion varies between 20-30 million, depending on who one asks. Stalin alone may have surpassed this figure before the war, and with the killings of Lenin and his acolytes added in the mass killings due to the rise and subsequent administration by Bolsheviks exceeds this figure.

    I might add, that the Ukranians looked upon the Nazis as liberators, with good cause - up until the Nazis started doing the same things to them as the Bolsheviks had.

  • The history of this "curious relationship" doesn't stop there, however. For after the Red Army had defeated the Nazis, they still retained the territories in Poland that they had stolen with the aid of Hitler, and parts of Finland besides, as well as militarily occupying Eastern Europe for over half a century. Revolts against this Soviet occupation decades after the war had ended were violently crushed.

    This speaks to a falling out between equally despicable regimes with similar intentions.

  • Really no one should listen to you about anything.

  • Churchill said: "Marxism and National Socialism, were like the North and South Poles, totally Inhospitable to man, with the only difference being that the North Pole was controlled by Polar Bears, Marxists, with the South Pole being controlled by the Nazis, Penguins. Different Rulers, same cold and brutal attitude. National Socialism was the off-spring of Communism, NOT Fascism. Fascism was about keeping control via Crown, Landowners and Church. Both Nazis are Communists both meritocracies.

  • @DrCruel Theres Civic Nationalism where any race of any class can join long as they are devoted one country and one ideal, Hitler ruined the idea of true nationalism..Communism is a propaganda scheme founded by Karl Marx who happens to be jewish, not to be anti-semtic, but what it is bascially the govenment dictates how people should live and distribute their wealth, true nationalism brings pride and power and those who exhibit that quality are not westerners..

  • @DrCruel Do tell re: CNT