@vaLLarr stop making pointless arguments and shut the hell up. u are not a stupid ass schizophrenic. or are u? seriously, asshole stop trying to win an argument u have already lost, but u still rage on, slacker. where do u even find the time to argue all this time?! u are the worst wisecrack in the history of youtube.
"And he [Jesus] asked him, What is thy name? And he [the demons] answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
13... And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea,.... and were choked in the sea.”
I especially love the part about the Legion of Swine.
@vaLLarrr We're busy elsewhere Val. Your cult didn't get to the point of total collapse for no reason, dear. This forum is for amusement, not for exposing you for the crime syndicate you are. I mean look at all that has happened since you joined this forum. Your cult is on life support, a PR nightmare damn near every day now. Miscavige barely clinging to his position, Independent numbers growing by the the day. Keep your focus on this video as your cult implodes. It's so fun to watch:)
@vaLLarrr I'm not talking about cults smart one. I'm talking about you. You have been on this for years. Dude get a life. I only went back to this to laugh if you were still arguing, annddd you still are. Are you paid to do this or what.
love the co$ ad top right,way to piss money against the wall,do you really believe anyone will click on that after seeing this video.You guys take stupid to a whole new level
@pussypuffs he was posting to the ronbots who use the vaLLarrr name to bash them. the dianetics ad appears constantly on this videos page as well as the videos posted by XENUTV and torymagoo44 who are harsh critics of the CULT of scientology. anybody smart will never click the dianetics ad after seeing this video and any others with legit info on the cult.
new show - the firm. Recently, Juliette Lewis was interviewed by Craig Ferguson on The Late Late Show. What the hell is wrong with her? Really? Yeah, I know she has always been wacky, but she sounds totally out of her mind now more than ever. lewis is a crazy scientologist!!!!
David Miscavige is meeting with Tom Cruise (in sekrit) as we speak. He's carrying a large manila envelope with several 8X11 photographs and a taperecorded message that will *self-destruct* once TC acknowledges or accepts his new *Mission Impossible.* ;D
My heritage has nothing to do with it, little bigot.
GOOGLE "SIGNS CULT", PICK ANY WEBSITE AND APPLY THE SIGNS TO $CIENTOLOGY. 99% will fit.
Are you saying I made up all the websites and organizations warning about the signs of dangerous cults, Val? It's not my fault that $cientology is a dangerous cult and 99% of the signs of dangerous cults therefore apply to it. Just check for yourself.
you people should be the LAST ones lecturing America nor anyone else who totally disagrees with you on what a "dangerous cult" is since you got it so WRONG THAT LAST TIME.
Don't be silly, Val. Google is a search engine. Use it to find "signs of a dangerous cult" and you will find dozens of websites by dozens of different organisations around the world that list signs of dangerous cults - and no matter WHICH website you pick, 99% of those signs apply to $cientology.
And the conclusion you draw from this is that I am a Nazi? Weird. I'd say the conclusion is that $CIENTOLOGY IS A DANGEROUS CULT.
too bad for your idiotic "point," there are plenty of FALSE things on google.
what a complet idiot you are.
and the conclusion that you simply choose to unquestioningly BELIEVE the lies on google, like the GERMANS unquestioningly believed what was in MEIN KAMPF is one of the things that make you a Nazi moron.
What, are you saying EVERY SINGLE WEBSITE that lists "warning signs of a dangerous cult" is lying, Val? Seriously?
Google "signs cult". Pick ANY website. ANY website. Apply the signs to $cientology. ANY sign. Realize that 99% of the signs of a dangerous cult fit $cientology.
Then realize that there's nothing you can do about the FACT that $cientology is a dangerous cult by any definition. Then cry some more.
@vaLLarrr Okay, you're not answering the question, I see. Evidently seeing how I respond before deciding on your own reply.
I do believe they are. They can be applied to almost any dangerous cult you could name - People's Temple, Heaven's Gate, Aum Shinrikyo, Church of Scientology, whatever. Yet they're absent from Christianity, atheism, Anonymous or any of the other things you've claimed to be "cults."
@vaLLarrr You alresdy know my answer to that, having read that post from yesterday - I didn't initially believe you had, but you know what? Your bare assertions have convinced me. You did read that post, and know exactly which points apply to Scientology but not Christianity (hint: all of them)
@vaLLarrr No, given that I've specifically stated the points, and you've read them (so you claim), there is nothing by way of a "generality" about it at all. Of course, if you want to admit that you didn't read my post, then I'll happily restate them here.
@vaLLarrr That wasn't so bad, now, was it? Here's a repost of what you claim I didn't post: "Totalitarian power structure? Check. Emphasis on recruitment and fundraising? Check (and you've admitted to this one yourself). Ethical double-standards? Check. Claims of innovation and exclusivity? Check. The only ones the CoS doesn't have are those relating to a domineering, charismatic, self-appointed messianic leader, and that's only because L. Ron Hubbard is dead."
vaLLarrr has written a C.S.W. [Completed Staff Work] asking for permission (or authorization) to be able to use the internet search engine "Google."
[Tight reins on the "population" art large - what system of government or citizenry control does this remind you of? If you thought "Fascist" or "Nazi," move to the head of the class.]
In the "Truman show," vaLLarrr is Truman. You're an insane, EVIL SP. And you're a criminal, too. ;D
Oh, and everyone claps when Truman takes the stage. And they all join in hip hip hoorays to Hubbard honoring his "brilliant creation."
Btw, a "CSW" is a form to request just about any and everything. It has three main parts: Situation (I need a day off), Data (whatever info considered needed) and a Solution (usually "This is OK." and a line for "Approved" and/or "Disapproved."
Talk about "Social Control in Scientology." (The actual name of an essay on Scn)
@vaLLarrr You said that since you can't count on information from the internet, you can't make a valid argument based on that information. e.i. searching websites on google. First of all: *facepalm* If you gather four examples of different cults that displayed similar (or more commonly exactly alike) actions and teachings that ended being commonly agreed as "dangerous", then you, as a sane human being, would be led to believe that those actions were the cause of the reason that cult was
@vaLLarrr considered "dangerous" in the first place. You don't need anyone to tell you otherwise, that's just simple science. If you ever delve into the psychology behind cults, which I doubt you'll do (don't want to find out anything you didn't want to learn, right?), you might be horrified to find that almost all cults are exactly the same in how they indoctrinate, gain capital, and thrive on it. The only trait that usually differentiates is the origin and the idea behind it.
@vaLLarrr In the case of Scientology, I have to say i'm disappointed that a story that would make H.P. Lovecraft giggle over his morning cup of coffee would become such a disastrous mess of carnage. The truth is that the only reason you've heard about any of this is because Tom Cruise is candy to a media who pride themselves on finding out what color Paris Hilton's panties are today. Puhlease. *changes channel* find something else to believe in. Star Wars is better written anyway.
I'm not deciding anything, Val, and neither are you or your cult.
I'm just pointing out that 99% of ALL the warning signs of dangerous cults on EVERY website that lists them apply to $cientology, which leads to the logical conclusion that $cientology is a dangerous cult.
Val, 99% OF EVERY SINGLE SIGN OF A DANGEROUS CULT ON ANY WEBSITE ON THE INTERNET THAT LISTS WARNING SIGNS OF DANGEROUS CULTS APPLY TO $CIENTOLOGY - and you are trying to discredit all of them just by claiming they aren't valid? None of them? Seriously?
Pull your head out of your ass, Val. I wasn't kidding when I said 99% of the "SIGNS OF DANGEROUS CULTS" on EVERY SINGLE WEBSITE on the entire internet listing them apply to $cientology. That is a fact.
Your desperate attempts to declare literally EVERY source on the matter "invalid" are cringe-worthy. $cientology is a dangerous cult. Every single website listing warning signs of cults agrees. You don't. Tough shit.
My "claims" hold every bit as much value as yours, such as your "claim" that is has value and isn't pure charlatanism. And no, anonymous doesn't defraud people, has never been investigated for false imprisonment, isn't litigious, and has never framed anyone. Unlike Scientology.
@jdtrickster4 Or Christians..True, or Atheists even, think about it they are just as dogmatic and cult like and intolerant as any religious person. Shit, if we are going to call em' out let's call all of em' out eh? (=
@VaiTomarN0Cu A cult must, by definition, have some sort of structure and central authority. You could call certain denominations of Christianity "cults," but not Christianity as a whole. You definitely couldn't call atheism a cult. Basically, it's the difference between the organisation and the belief. So, Church of Scientology = cult. Actual Scientology beliefs = not technically cult.
@vaLLarrr the military is a cult..any form of brainwashing is a cult. thats why i decided to create Free Thinkers! You must have an open mind to join, and if you need help, we can show you the way....we are not a cult btw...lol
@vaLLarrr I can provide "evidence or proof." Totalitarian power structure? Check. Emphasis on recruitment and fundraising? Check (and you've admitted to this one yourself). Ethical double-standards? Check. Claims of innovation and exclusivity? Check. The only ones the CoS doesn't have are those relating to a domineering, charismatic, self-appointed messianic leader, and that's only because L. Ron Hubbard is dead.
@vaLLarrr That list isn't my invention, vaL. Those are the standard signs of a destructive cult, and they can be applied to the Church of Scientology as easily as they can be applied to Aum Shinrikyo or the People's Temple. Strangely enough, they don't fit Christianity, Anonymous, atheism or any of the other things you've desperately tried to pretend are cults.
@vaLLarrr You evidently didn't. You only read the first sentence and ignored the rest. I realise you've been pretty downstat and want to post as quickly as possible because you can't take much more bully-ramming next Stats Day, but this is frankly a false economy.
@vaLLarrr No, you've satisfactorily proven that you didn't actually read it, and that's my point proven. Anyway, it's quite late now, so I'm off to bed. Hope they don't bully-ram you too hard on Thursday afternoon when you disappear for Stats.
@vaLLarrr Just did. If you'd read the post, you wouldn't need it repeating. It's right there. Anyway, much as I'd like to stick around and watch you sob and rage and throw juvenile insults at me, I really do need to go to bed.
@vaLLarrr Cult didn't give you permission to read it Val? What's it like being told what you can and can't read, do, think? That's what happens when you join a destructive cult.
@vaLLarrr No you didn't. You must think we're all as naive and gullible as you were when the Church of Scientology said it could help you. Don't worry, some day your handlers will forget to feed you and you'll be free at last.
@vaLLarrr Now, that's quite telling, isn't it? You consider everyone else to be incredibly naive. Now, was this arrogance instilled by Scientology (which refers to non-Scientologists as "wogs" and "hom saps") or did it just fuel a pre-existing complex?
You suggesting to try free thinking sometimes... priceless.
Google "signs cults" and pick any result - 99% of it is applicable to $cientology.
$cientology is a cult. A dangerous cult, and yes, they brainwashed you, but how would you know, dear Val? Regular people telling you would be a start, right?
$cientology, as a religious belief, is like being part of Bernie Madoff's *investment* scam; one's *hopeful* (or hope filled) that participating in it will reap giant, huge, rich rewards.
Of course, with $cientology, the answer to the question or game of "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" is made easy: The CON [short for confidence game] came first.
[Conditioning may vary: Some have actually been brainwashed to BELIEVE they are superior [ubermensch] to others. Talk about Nazi. ;D
Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a women with lust you have committed adultery with her in your heart.
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Does this concern you? The Bible teaches despise the value of your eye compared to the value of your soul. would u sell your eye for a million dollars? And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. needgod.com
I don't know about the death because, anyone can die any second because of whatever, but all of the legal trouble that the Church of Scientology should be inflicted with and somehow gets out of it. IMO, they got people in high places and are abusing power.
@TheSkyCries1 they have so much blackmail material on key people due to the p.i. stunts they pull. i bet they knew about the affairs of the legislators before the mainstream news did and they use that to keep their exemption. this cult is another key reason aside from 'the patriot act' to petition for we the voters to induce term limits on those a'holes in washington.
The problem with Scientology is that the theology is not true, not supported by evidence, not based on fact or reality. However, the methodology they use to clear the mind, to de-hypnotize people, is very effective and a key to awakening. These methods could be used to help people out of the illusions of this world, and then they can be taught the truth that IS in accord with fact and reality. Search for "Truth Contest" in Google and click the 1st result, then click "The Present" to open it
@TheHonestChurch The first sentence you wrote made sense, but the rest of your comment just put you in the same boat as the people running Scientology, or any religion for that matter.
@TheHonestChurch In fact, your comment is very typical of the cult's first stage. Cults will typically play down their idiosyncratic religious beliefs to avoid putting people off. In the case of Scientology, they pretend to be primarily about self-help, education, detox etc. Then once you're marinated in cultiness for a while, they wheel in the crazy stuff. Thanks for the demo, dude.
Anyway, I guess that means vaL agrees that the Freezone is great and there is literally no reason not to leave the Church of Scientology and join it. Good for hir.
and just how do YOU know I'd be getting the "exact same service" if I did that?
oh, you DON'T know that at ALL, and are simply talking through your rear end as usual?
I see.
and too bad for your "point," abandoning people would have nothing whatever to do with any "disconnection policy," never mind the fact that it's fictitious ANYWAY.
@vaLLarrr Don't get snappy, the Independent Scientologists are former members of the Church of Scientology themselves, many of them having been very high up. They have access to the same books and materials, which according to you is all a person needs to practise Scientology. So you would be getting the exact same service.
oh, it is not "spiritual awareness" that comes with a price tag.
it is the SERVICE that must be DELIVERED that HELPS one to ACHIEVE this spiritual awareness that comes with a price tag, since one cannot attain this spiritual awareness without it.
So why is this "necessary price tag" so high? Why does the "church" sell e-meters at hundreds of times their cost to make, if they are supposedly such vital tools for spiritual freedom? Why do advanced courses get more and more expensive, even those courses that feature "self-auditing"?
Why does David Miscavige's motorcylcle collection keep growing while he eats the gourmet meals prepared for him throughout the day?
@vaLLarrr said: "everyone is wrong about SOMETHING, but one can be much more right than wrong, as the CoS is."
Trying to decide whether to copy/paste the definition of "opinion" or "claim" in response to that, but it's not really my style.
How about if one of the things one doesn't agree with the group on is very important, like the abuse and exploitation of others? I think abandoning said group is the ethical thing to do in that situation.
@vaLLarrr But if you went with the Independent Scientologists, you'd be getting the exact same service, but not paying a huge price for it. And you wouldn't be abandoning people in the Church of Scientology, because there's no such thing as a Disconnection policy according to you.
@vaLLarrr and the spiritual aware need thousands of dollars for that?
like.. to buy.. mh, yeah what do spiritual enlightened people need.. they have no ego right? and no ego = no need for expensive cars, flats, food, clothes, hotels, money to bribe.. no need for luxury and not even a "want" for that. where does all that money go into? AH! maybe it's donated to those who don't have enough money for spiritual enlightment.. no.. wait, it's not happening, right?
@vaLLarrr Well, the founders of Independent Scientology were highly experienced CoS auditors themselves, so if their auditing isn't up to scratch it's the Church of Scientology's fault. Besides, didn't you say that anyone could be an auditor as long as they had the texts? Well, these guys do!
@vaLLarrr Good point. And how do you know they're not doing the same in the Church of Scientology? That would certainly explain those "transcription errors," wouldn't it?
@vaLLarrr In fact, given that the Church of Scientology would stand to benefit financially from changes to the text (i.e. people would buy them again), whereas the Freezone would make no such monetary gain, the CoS have more reason to make changes. No one would prevent them, because you wouldn't dare speak up even if you did suspect foul play.
@vaLLarrr But the CoS would benefit from changes in the text they made themselves, wouldn't they? Because then they could sell people the same books twice over. As happened with the recent "transcription errors" business.
@vaLLarrr What if they'd already bought them when the "transcription errors" were announced? Because presumably when that actually happened, a lot of people had already paid a lot of money for their copies of L. Ron's overpriced toilet paper.
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@jdtrickster4
oh, I didn't have to "learn" how to crush you idiots.
you all simply make it so incredibly easy you actually effectively crush YOURSELVES. LOL
vaLLarrr 3 days ago
@AnonRanGER01
oh, Galaxia496 couldn't actually present a cogent "argument" if his mother's life depended on it.
you know, like yourself and all anons?
his most compelling "point" was, "shut the hell up."
brilliant, wasn't it?
you anons are so pathetic. LOL
NONE of you DARE make an actual debatable point because you know I will CRUSH YOU.
vaLLarrr 4 days ago
@vaLLarrr
And where'd ya learn to "CRUSH" people like that, vaLLy, in $cientology? LOL
Let me guess, that's because you've become a superior ubermensch homo novice, am I right? ;-D
jdtrickster4 4 days ago 3
@vaLLarrr You have one chance at life and you waste it getting duped by a cult into giving them all your money hahahah what a complete loser you are.
Be4TinGyoU 19 hours ago
In fact I can't stop even if I wanted to.
All that stuff I told them during auditing, they know about my ruin, my innermost secrets.
I am a prisoner of their blackmail.
Please help me guys.
David Miscavige will beat me and send the Squirrel Busters to kill my family and their pets if I speak out against this cult.
I mocked up my own past lives. All my money is gone. Help me PLEASE
vaaLLarr 4 days ago
@Galaxia496
oh SO sorry, but I can't technically "stop" doing something I'm not actually doing in the FIRST place.
better luck next time.
vaLLarrr 4 days ago
@vaLLarrr
You were *technically* doing it in the FIRST place. ;-D
jdtrickster4 4 days ago
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I want this video on my 845 phone.
gordoncraig410 1 week ago
@vaLLarr stop making pointless arguments and shut the hell up. u are not a stupid ass schizophrenic. or are u? seriously, asshole stop trying to win an argument u have already lost, but u still rage on, slacker. where do u even find the time to argue all this time?! u are the worst wisecrack in the history of youtube.
Galaxia496 1 week ago 4
@Galaxia496
So I take it Val is the first $cientologist you argued with?
AnonRanGER01 4 days ago
Scientology should be banned and the leaders hunted down, and put away to rot in prison for the rest of their life
Vondracar 1 week ago
if someone is retarded enough t believe in scientology then they deserve it
j0nnyism 1 week ago
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@NarkAnon
oh it sure IS much better.
"We are Legion."
"And he [Jesus] asked him, What is thy name? And he [the demons] answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
13... And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea,.... and were choked in the sea.”
I especially love the part about the Legion of Swine.
LMAO
vaLLarrr 2 weeks ago
@vaLLarrr
That was quite an ineffective fail there, vaL. But I think you have the potential to fail even harder. Why don't you give it a try?
taxthecult(.)com
NarkAnon 2 weeks ago 5
Anonymous is AT CAUSE over $cientology.
jdtrickster4 2 weeks ago
@NarkAnon
oh, "We are LEGION" is MUCH better nark.
and JUST as "valid."
LMAO
vaLLarrr 2 weeks ago
@vaLLarrr
Oh, "Dauntless, Defiant and Resolute" is much better vaL.
And just as ironic.
LMFAO I'm sexy and I know it.
NarkAnon 2 weeks ago
@jdtrickster4
sure I did tricky.
whateva you say.
as if anything could bring this thread back to life instead of being in the toilet where it has always belonged. LOL
vaLLarrr 2 weeks ago
@vaLLarrr We're busy elsewhere Val. Your cult didn't get to the point of total collapse for no reason, dear. This forum is for amusement, not for exposing you for the crime syndicate you are. I mean look at all that has happened since you joined this forum. Your cult is on life support, a PR nightmare damn near every day now. Miscavige barely clinging to his position, Independent numbers growing by the the day. Keep your focus on this video as your cult implodes. It's so fun to watch:)
cultssuck 2 weeks ago
@cultssuck Did you know last year I was fighting with vaLLarrr? It's hilarious how vall has been on this video for years.
SilverWolf1019 2 weeks ago
@SilverWolf1019
gee, the fact that cults has been on longer than me you don't find hilarious, huh. can you say "HYPOCRITE?"
LOL
vaLLarrr 2 weeks ago
@vaLLarrr
Except that you GOT CRUSHED.
And thus, Scientology tech fails again. Will you ever get tired of losing?
askthescientologist(.)blogspot(.)com
NarkAnon 2 weeks ago
@vaLLarrr I'm not talking about cults smart one. I'm talking about you. You have been on this for years. Dude get a life. I only went back to this to laugh if you were still arguing, annddd you still are. Are you paid to do this or what.
SilverWolf1019 2 weeks ago
@SilverWolf1019 I came here for the same reason. It is amazing that she/he still posts on here. Hopefully it gets the help it needs.
chewbaccajoe 2 weeks ago
@chewbaccajoe I find it pathetic really.
SilverWolf1019 2 weeks ago
@SilverWolf1019 Val gets paid $30 a week and all the rice and beans he can eat to post here. (If 30 bucks can be considered "pay" :)
cultssuck 2 weeks ago
@vaLLarrr
Over two point one million views, baby!!!
And it's helped put $cientology *in the toilet* where it has always belonged : circling the drain. ;D
jdtrickster4 2 weeks ago 4
It's ALIVE! Muah-hahahahaha!
Thanks, vaL, you're a Scientology critic's best friend. Together, we shall expose Scientology's quackery far and wide!
NarkAnon 2 weeks ago
(Insert a religion here) is a dangerous cult.
(Insert a religion here) ruins lives.
(Insert a religion here) KILLS.
MadMacISmad 2 weeks ago
@NarkAnon
sure nark. whateva you say.
*yawn*
vaLLarrr 2 weeks ago
THIS thread is dead. LOL
vaLLarrr 2 weeks ago
@vaLLarrr
Almost as dead as your average Scientology "Ideal Org" building.
I know the one in my city is quiet and empty.
NarkAnon 2 weeks ago
@vaLLarrr
You just gave this thread LIFE with your TWO comments. Good job. ;D
jdtrickster4 2 weeks ago
love the co$ ad top right,way to piss money against the wall,do you really believe anyone will click on that after seeing this video.You guys take stupid to a whole new level
OTpowerz 3 weeks ago
@OTpowerz what?
pussypuffs 3 weeks ago
@pussypuffs he was posting to the ronbots who use the vaLLarrr name to bash them. the dianetics ad appears constantly on this videos page as well as the videos posted by XENUTV and torymagoo44 who are harsh critics of the CULT of scientology. anybody smart will never click the dianetics ad after seeing this video and any others with legit info on the cult.
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new show - the firm. Recently, Juliette Lewis was interviewed by Craig Ferguson on The Late Late Show. What the hell is wrong with her? Really? Yeah, I know she has always been wacky, but she sounds totally out of her mind now more than ever. lewis is a crazy scientologist!!!!
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@vaaLLarr
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
vaLLarrr 3 weeks ago
Why has the leader of my church not appeared on TV interviews since 1992?
No wonder people are calling him a coward!
Come on David Miscavige - where are you?
vaaLLarr 3 weeks ago 2
@vaaLLarr
David Miscavige is meeting with Tom Cruise (in sekrit) as we speak. He's carrying a large manila envelope with several 8X11 photographs and a taperecorded message that will *self-destruct* once TC acknowledges or accepts his new *Mission Impossible.* ;D
[start playing MI tune]
jdtrickster4 3 weeks ago
536 are scientologists
they do not like the truth being told
MrHamster24 4 weeks ago
I can't read the red. too blurry >:(
Germ0o 4 weeks ago
What happened to Val?
. A little busy lately are you val??
I mean with all the Debbie Cook business, trying to maintain the statuesque over at OSA ?
Did you read your copy of Debbie's Email Val ?? what do you think ? hmmm?
fzappa007 1 month ago
Could be worse; it could be islam.
RBEO22 1 month ago
Unusual comments with this video once again.
fredericshie12 1 month ago
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@AnonRanGER01
gee, did you close your eyes, light candles and chant "Everything on google is truuuuuuueeee....."
when you did that?
I hear that's how you anons brainwash yourselves.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
$CIENTOLOGY IS A DANGEROUS CULT.
Its money-grubbing greed and thirst for power destroys businesses.
Its controling & evil policies of disconnection & SP declares destroy families & relationships.
Its *Fair Game* tactics are used to destroy its critics, free-speech activists & the many enemies it creates for itself daily.
$CIENTOLOGY IS AN ABUSIVE, FASCIST, CRIMINAL & HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATING $YNDICATE.
jdtrickster4 1 month ago
@AnonRanGER01
oh, a GERMAN is lecturing everyone else on the definition of a "dangerous cult," when the AMERICANS disagree.
priceless.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr
My heritage has nothing to do with it, little bigot.
GOOGLE "SIGNS CULT", PICK ANY WEBSITE AND APPLY THE SIGNS TO $CIENTOLOGY. 99% will fit.
Are you saying I made up all the websites and organizations warning about the signs of dangerous cults, Val? It's not my fault that $cientology is a dangerous cult and 99% of the signs of dangerous cults therefore apply to it. Just check for yourself.
AnonRanGER01 1 month ago
@AnonRanGER01
of COURSE it does you Nazi.
you people should be the LAST ones lecturing America nor anyone else who totally disagrees with you on what a "dangerous cult" is since you got it so WRONG THAT LAST TIME.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@AnonRanGER01
and of course EVERY idiotic OPINION on Google as to what constitutes a "sinister cult," is automatically somehow "true," right you Nazi?
one can find all KINDS of "signs" that JEWS are STILL vermin on google.
guess you think THAT'S all "true" too, since it's on "google," huh you Nazi?
Sieg Heil baby.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr
Don't be silly, Val. Google is a search engine. Use it to find "signs of a dangerous cult" and you will find dozens of websites by dozens of different organisations around the world that list signs of dangerous cults - and no matter WHICH website you pick, 99% of those signs apply to $cientology.
And the conclusion you draw from this is that I am a Nazi? Weird. I'd say the conclusion is that $CIENTOLOGY IS A DANGEROUS CULT.
AnonRanGER01 1 month ago
@AnonRanGER01
too bad for your idiotic "point," there are plenty of FALSE things on google.
what a complet idiot you are.
and the conclusion that you simply choose to unquestioningly BELIEVE the lies on google, like the GERMANS unquestioningly believed what was in MEIN KAMPF is one of the things that make you a Nazi moron.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr
What, are you saying EVERY SINGLE WEBSITE that lists "warning signs of a dangerous cult" is lying, Val? Seriously?
Google "signs cult". Pick ANY website. ANY website. Apply the signs to $cientology. ANY sign. Realize that 99% of the signs of a dangerous cult fit $cientology.
Then realize that there's nothing you can do about the FACT that $cientology is a dangerous cult by any definition. Then cry some more.
AnonRanGER01 1 month ago
@AnonRanGER01
of course. just who are THEY to "decide" what a "warning sign" is or isn't MORON?
just WHO decided that they are "qualified" to say that, hmn moron.
YOU???
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..........
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr Do you think the warning signs they list are false, vaL?
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
I'll go you one better. do you think what they decided are warning signs are necessarily true digs?
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr Okay, you're not answering the question, I see. Evidently seeing how I respond before deciding on your own reply.
I do believe they are. They can be applied to almost any dangerous cult you could name - People's Temple, Heaven's Gate, Aum Shinrikyo, Church of Scientology, whatever. Yet they're absent from Christianity, atheism, Anonymous or any of the other things you've claimed to be "cults."
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
oh but I did answer the question.
it's not my fault that you're too stupid to know what the Socratic method is.
duh.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@Digscomics
and just what things "apply" to Scientology that are "absent" from Christianity, hmm?
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr You alresdy know my answer to that, having read that post from yesterday - I didn't initially believe you had, but you know what? Your bare assertions have convinced me. You did read that post, and know exactly which points apply to Scientology but not Christianity (hint: all of them)
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
OH sure.
"all of them."
not a meaningless generality at ALL, right digs?
LOL
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr No, given that I've specifically stated the points, and you've read them (so you claim), there is nothing by way of a "generality" about it at all. Of course, if you want to admit that you didn't read my post, then I'll happily restate them here.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
yea sure ya did digs.
as if any fool can't just claim that and of course you won't even "repeat" ONE.
naturally.
*yawn*
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr I will happily repeat them, if you admit that you didn't read the post. If you did read the post, then my reposting it is a waste of time.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
gee digs, frankly I don't remember reading any such thing, probably because you never posted it in the first place, even though you CLAIM you did.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
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@vaLLarrr That wasn't so bad, now, was it? Here's a repost of what you claim I didn't post: "Totalitarian power structure? Check. Emphasis on recruitment and fundraising? Check (and you've admitted to this one yourself). Ethical double-standards? Check. Claims of innovation and exclusivity? Check. The only ones the CoS doesn't have are those relating to a domineering, charismatic, self-appointed messianic leader, and that's only because L. Ron Hubbard is dead."
Digscomics 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr
Google "signs cult". Pick any website. Pick any sign. 99% of them apply to $cientology. $cientology is a dangerous cult.
AnonRanGER01 1 month ago
@AnonRanGER01
vaLLarrr has written a C.S.W. [Completed Staff Work] asking for permission (or authorization) to be able to use the internet search engine "Google."
[Tight reins on the "population" art large - what system of government or citizenry control does this remind you of? If you thought "Fascist" or "Nazi," move to the head of the class.]
In the "Truman show," vaLLarrr is Truman. You're an insane, EVIL SP. And you're a criminal, too. ;D
jdtrickster4 1 month ago
@jdtrickster4 -- I believe, Bob Penny [now deceased, I think]
jdtrickster4 4 weeks ago
@AnonRanGER01
Oh, and everyone claps when Truman takes the stage. And they all join in hip hip hoorays to Hubbard honoring his "brilliant creation."
Btw, a "CSW" is a form to request just about any and everything. It has three main parts: Situation (I need a day off), Data (whatever info considered needed) and a Solution (usually "This is OK." and a line for "Approved" and/or "Disapproved."
Talk about "Social Control in Scientology." (The actual name of an essay on Scn)
jdtrickster4 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr You said that since you can't count on information from the internet, you can't make a valid argument based on that information. e.i. searching websites on google. First of all: *facepalm* If you gather four examples of different cults that displayed similar (or more commonly exactly alike) actions and teachings that ended being commonly agreed as "dangerous", then you, as a sane human being, would be led to believe that those actions were the cause of the reason that cult was
TheMurdrumCase 1 month ago 2
@vaLLarrr considered "dangerous" in the first place. You don't need anyone to tell you otherwise, that's just simple science. If you ever delve into the psychology behind cults, which I doubt you'll do (don't want to find out anything you didn't want to learn, right?), you might be horrified to find that almost all cults are exactly the same in how they indoctrinate, gain capital, and thrive on it. The only trait that usually differentiates is the origin and the idea behind it.
TheMurdrumCase 1 month ago 2
@vaLLarrr In the case of Scientology, I have to say i'm disappointed that a story that would make H.P. Lovecraft giggle over his morning cup of coffee would become such a disastrous mess of carnage. The truth is that the only reason you've heard about any of this is because Tom Cruise is candy to a media who pride themselves on finding out what color Paris Hilton's panties are today. Puhlease. *changes channel* find something else to believe in. Star Wars is better written anyway.
TheMurdrumCase 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr
I'm not deciding anything, Val, and neither are you or your cult.
I'm just pointing out that 99% of ALL the warning signs of dangerous cults on EVERY website that lists them apply to $cientology, which leads to the logical conclusion that $cientology is a dangerous cult.
AnonRanGER01 1 month ago
@AnonRanGER01
oh you mean you CLAIM that they are "valid" in the FIRST place, and that they "apply" to Scientology.
thanks for revealing that. LOL
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr
Val, 99% OF EVERY SINGLE SIGN OF A DANGEROUS CULT ON ANY WEBSITE ON THE INTERNET THAT LISTS WARNING SIGNS OF DANGEROUS CULTS APPLY TO $CIENTOLOGY - and you are trying to discredit all of them just by claiming they aren't valid? None of them? Seriously?
AnonRanGER01 1 month ago
@AnonRanGER01
oh good thing you haven't proven that they're in ANY WAY "valid."
whew.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr
Pull your head out of your ass, Val. I wasn't kidding when I said 99% of the "SIGNS OF DANGEROUS CULTS" on EVERY SINGLE WEBSITE on the entire internet listing them apply to $cientology. That is a fact.
Your desperate attempts to declare literally EVERY source on the matter "invalid" are cringe-worthy. $cientology is a dangerous cult. Every single website listing warning signs of cults agrees. You don't. Tough shit.
AnonRanGER01 1 month ago
@AnonRanGER01 If only vaLLarrr was allowed to use Google...
Digscomics 1 month ago
Google "Signs cult". Pick any website and apply it to $cientology. 99% will fit.
$cientology is a dangerous cult.
AnonRanGER01 1 month ago
i mean idc
DidYouEatMyMonkey 1 month ago
so boring i stoped at 1:12 and idk i got here from south park who else?
DidYouEatMyMonkey 1 month ago
My "claims" hold every bit as much value as yours, such as your "claim" that is has value and isn't pure charlatanism. And no, anonymous doesn't defraud people, has never been investigated for false imprisonment, isn't litigious, and has never framed anyone. Unlike Scientology.
janus70 1 month ago
@janus70
I love how Val uses "was" when talking about Anonymous, because Val's been claiming that Anonymous is gone for YEARS now. LOL
But nooo brainwashing here, no sir!
AnonRanGER01 1 month ago
$CIENTOLOGY LIE$
$CIENTOLOGY KILL$
Sofis4099 1 month ago 2
@Sofis4099
$CIENTOLOGY LIE$,
$CIENTOLOGY KILL$
=
$CIENTOLOGY LIE $ KILL$
;D
jdtrickster4 1 month ago
THIS IS FUCKING TERRIFYING
IoSonoIoProprioIo 1 month ago
and i thought muslims were crazy...
ratmrulesyou1 1 month ago
@ratmrulesyou1 They are but not as crazy as Jews.
VaiTomarN0Cu 1 month ago
@VaiTomarN0Cu - Or Christians. ;D
jdtrickster4 1 month ago
@jdtrickster4 Or Christians..True, or Atheists even, think about it they are just as dogmatic and cult like and intolerant as any religious person. Shit, if we are going to call em' out let's call all of em' out eh? (=
VaiTomarN0Cu 1 month ago
@VaiTomarN0Cu some atheists, but not all...
ratmrulesyou1 1 month ago
@VaiTomarN0Cu A cult must, by definition, have some sort of structure and central authority. You could call certain denominations of Christianity "cults," but not Christianity as a whole. You definitely couldn't call atheism a cult. Basically, it's the difference between the organisation and the belief. So, Church of Scientology = cult. Actual Scientology beliefs = not technically cult.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
of course the Christianity is a cult.
the cult of Jesus.
what an idiot.
*rollseyes*
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr And a Merry Christmas to you too.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
same to you digs.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr
X-mas is for wogs and SP's. Get back to work right now, slave!
RedPillonTopix 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr that was awesome...
ChillRobG212 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr the military is a cult..any form of brainwashing is a cult. thats why i decided to create Free Thinkers! You must have an open mind to join, and if you need help, we can show you the way....we are not a cult btw...lol
ChillRobG212 1 month ago
@ChillRobG212
yea, all religions are cults too.
and cults have nothing necessarily to do with "brainwashing."
you should try free thinking sometime. LOL
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr
Maybe so. Not all religions are sinister cults, though. Scientology is.
janus70 1 month ago
@janus70
you mean YOU CLAIM Scientology is a "sinister cult?"
claim |klām|
verb [ reporting verb ]
state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.
and you mean the way "anonymous" was a sinister cult?
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr I can provide "evidence or proof." Totalitarian power structure? Check. Emphasis on recruitment and fundraising? Check (and you've admitted to this one yourself). Ethical double-standards? Check. Claims of innovation and exclusivity? Check. The only ones the CoS doesn't have are those relating to a domineering, charismatic, self-appointed messianic leader, and that's only because L. Ron Hubbard is dead.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
oh you mean you CLAIM you provide "evidence."
claim |klām|
verb [ reporting verb ]
state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.
oh and btw, a BARRAGE of lies doesn't make them any more "true."
duh
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr That list isn't my invention, vaL. Those are the standard signs of a destructive cult, and they can be applied to the Church of Scientology as easily as they can be applied to Aum Shinrikyo or the People's Temple. Strangely enough, they don't fit Christianity, Anonymous, atheism or any of the other things you've desperately tried to pretend are cults.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
oh right digs. the fact that it was someone's "invention" makes it "true."
what an idiot.
ROFL
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr Go back and read what I actually said.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
oh I understand what you said perfectly. the fact that it was utter drivel is really not my problem, y'know digs? LOL
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr You evidently didn't. You only read the first sentence and ignored the rest. I realise you've been pretty downstat and want to post as quickly as possible because you can't take much more bully-ramming next Stats Day, but this is frankly a false economy.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
oh I evidently did.
prove it.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr Sure. Address the points raised in the second and/or third sentence.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
bring it up again digs. I only crush ONE lie at a time.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr Okay, then, address the so-called "lie" expressed in the second sentence.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
like I said, bring it up again.
or not.
suit yourself.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr No, you've satisfactorily proven that you didn't actually read it, and that's my point proven. Anyway, it's quite late now, so I'm off to bed. Hope they don't bully-ram you too hard on Thursday afternoon when you disappear for Stats.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
oh , I deny that.
prove it.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr Just did. If you'd read the post, you wouldn't need it repeating. It's right there. Anyway, much as I'd like to stick around and watch you sob and rage and throw juvenile insults at me, I really do need to go to bed.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
oh I did read it. it just wasn't worth reading once let alone twice. LOL
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr Cult didn't give you permission to read it Val? What's it like being told what you can and can't read, do, think? That's what happens when you join a destructive cult.
cultssuck 1 month ago
@cultssuck
now say something else stupid rache.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr No you didn't. You must think we're all as naive and gullible as you were when the Church of Scientology said it could help you. Don't worry, some day your handlers will forget to feed you and you'll be free at last.
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
sure I did.
you must think that everyone is as stupid and bigoted as you are.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr Now, that's quite telling, isn't it? You consider everyone else to be incredibly naive. Now, was this arrogance instilled by Scientology (which refers to non-Scientologists as "wogs" and "hom saps") or did it just fuel a pre-existing complex?
Digscomics 1 month ago
@Digscomics
gee good thing I never said that "everyone" is naive.
I said that YOU are a bigoted idiot.
big difference of course.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr
You suggesting to try free thinking sometimes... priceless.
Google "signs cults" and pick any result - 99% of it is applicable to $cientology.
$cientology is a cult. A dangerous cult, and yes, they brainwashed you, but how would you know, dear Val? Regular people telling you would be a start, right?
Your cult brainwashed you, Val.
AnonRanGER01 1 month ago
@vaLLarrr
Try reading "The Battle for the Mind," by William Sargant - a book good ole Ron plagiarized plenty when writing his Dianetics.
There's some good background history between Sargant's book & the last hospital Ron stayed at before being released from the Navy. lermanet. com
There's some form of "brainwashing" in all cults & religions. And not all cults are religions; $cientology, for instance.
jdtrickster4 1 month ago
Dude this is really sad if its true and it looks like it is.
Themusicisalligot 1 month ago
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
vaLLarrr 1 month ago
$cientology, as a religious belief, is like being part of Bernie Madoff's *investment* scam; one's *hopeful* (or hope filled) that participating in it will reap giant, huge, rich rewards.
Of course, with $cientology, the answer to the question or game of "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" is made easy: The CON [short for confidence game] came first.
[Conditioning may vary: Some have actually been brainwashed to BELIEVE they are superior [ubermensch] to others. Talk about Nazi. ;D
jdtrickster4 1 month ago
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Are you ready?
Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a women with lust you have committed adultery with her in your heart.
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Does this concern you? The Bible teaches despise the value of your eye compared to the value of your soul. would u sell your eye for a million dollars? And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. needgod.com
standingontruth1 1 month ago in playlist Scientology
Jeremy's mother deserved to die.
dapinkpwner2008 2 months ago
@dapinkpwner2008 true
MisterBarnacus 1 month ago
I don't know about the death because, anyone can die any second because of whatever, but all of the legal trouble that the Church of Scientology should be inflicted with and somehow gets out of it. IMO, they got people in high places and are abusing power.
TheSkyCries1 2 months ago 2
@TheSkyCries1 they have so much blackmail material on key people due to the p.i. stunts they pull. i bet they knew about the affairs of the legislators before the mainstream news did and they use that to keep their exemption. this cult is another key reason aside from 'the patriot act' to petition for we the voters to induce term limits on those a'holes in washington.
bd189 1 month ago
The problem with Scientology is that the theology is not true, not supported by evidence, not based on fact or reality. However, the methodology they use to clear the mind, to de-hypnotize people, is very effective and a key to awakening. These methods could be used to help people out of the illusions of this world, and then they can be taught the truth that IS in accord with fact and reality. Search for "Truth Contest" in Google and click the 1st result, then click "The Present" to open it
TheHonestChurch 2 months ago
@TheHonestChurch The first sentence you wrote made sense, but the rest of your comment just put you in the same boat as the people running Scientology, or any religion for that matter.
Laevi1337 2 months ago
@TheHonestChurch Ah, I see you've got another new account. What I suggest would be a better thing to Google would be "scientology news"
Digscomics 2 months ago 2
@TheHonestChurch In fact, your comment is very typical of the cult's first stage. Cults will typically play down their idiosyncratic religious beliefs to avoid putting people off. In the case of Scientology, they pretend to be primarily about self-help, education, detox etc. Then once you're marinated in cultiness for a while, they wheel in the crazy stuff. Thanks for the demo, dude.
Digscomics 2 months ago 2
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@Digscomics
sure digs. Scientologists actually have the nerve to pretend that they DON'T eat babies.
can you believe it?
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
fuck scientology..
elmarielito80 2 months ago
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@Digscomics
oh, it wouldn't be the first time you guessed wrong digs.
in fact you always do.
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
Anyway, I guess that means vaL agrees that the Freezone is great and there is literally no reason not to leave the Church of Scientology and join it. Good for hir.
Digscomics 2 months ago
@Digscomics
and just how do YOU know I'd be getting the "exact same service" if I did that?
oh, you DON'T know that at ALL, and are simply talking through your rear end as usual?
I see.
and too bad for your "point," abandoning people would have nothing whatever to do with any "disconnection policy," never mind the fact that it's fictitious ANYWAY.
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr Don't get snappy, the Independent Scientologists are former members of the Church of Scientology themselves, many of them having been very high up. They have access to the same books and materials, which according to you is all a person needs to practise Scientology. So you would be getting the exact same service.
Digscomics 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr
Ah, but how do you know that you WOULDN'T be getting the same service and "wins" if you tried Independent Scientology?
Oh, you don't know that at all, and are simply believing what your self-serving leaders say to keep your money going to the CoS.
NarkAnon 2 months ago
@OpenComments
oh, it is not "spiritual awareness" that comes with a price tag.
it is the SERVICE that must be DELIVERED that HELPS one to ACHIEVE this spiritual awareness that comes with a price tag, since one cannot attain this spiritual awareness without it.
you can find someone to do it for free?
do it.
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr
So why is this "necessary price tag" so high? Why does the "church" sell e-meters at hundreds of times their cost to make, if they are supposedly such vital tools for spiritual freedom? Why do advanced courses get more and more expensive, even those courses that feature "self-auditing"?
Why does David Miscavige's motorcylcle collection keep growing while he eats the gourmet meals prepared for him throughout the day?
whoisdavidmiscavige(.)com
NarkAnon 2 months ago
@NarkAnon
because "high" is a matter of opinion.
I think it's too high myself.
there's one simple way to deal with that.
don't pay it, and don't do it.
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr
Or try the Independent Scientology movement. So there's more than one way to deal with it, eh?
NarkAnon 2 months ago
@NarkAnon
I disagree. one doesn't abandon one's friends because they are wrong about something.
everyone is wrong about SOMETHING, but one can be much more right than wrong, as the CoS is.
one tries to ENLIGHTEN one's friends and allies, not simply abandon them.
loyalty to a group one belongs to doesn't go out the window because one doesn't agree with absolutely EVERYTHING that group does.
there would be plenty to disagree with the "independent Scn movement" as well.
see?
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
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@vaLLarrr said: "everyone is wrong about SOMETHING, but one can be much more right than wrong, as the CoS is."
Trying to decide whether to copy/paste the definition of "opinion" or "claim" in response to that, but it's not really my style.
How about if one of the things one doesn't agree with the group on is very important, like the abuse and exploitation of others? I think abandoning said group is the ethical thing to do in that situation.
NarkAnon 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr But if you went with the Independent Scientologists, you'd be getting the exact same service, but not paying a huge price for it. And you wouldn't be abandoning people in the Church of Scientology, because there's no such thing as a Disconnection policy according to you.
Digscomics 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr and the spiritual aware need thousands of dollars for that?
like.. to buy.. mh, yeah what do spiritual enlightened people need.. they have no ego right? and no ego = no need for expensive cars, flats, food, clothes, hotels, money to bribe.. no need for luxury and not even a "want" for that. where does all that money go into? AH! maybe it's donated to those who don't have enough money for spiritual enlightment.. no.. wait, it's not happening, right?
akpresse 2 months ago
@akpresse
oh no. the spiritually aware must pay for AUDITING services if they wish to receive.
or NOT if they DON'T.
what's the problem.
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr They can get auditing services from Independent Scientologists for free, vaL.
Digscomics 2 months ago
@Digscomics
yea, if you call that "auditing."
let them get it.
they can knock themselves out.
what's the problem.
of course, sometimes you get what you pay for.
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr Well, the founders of Independent Scientology were highly experienced CoS auditors themselves, so if their auditing isn't up to scratch it's the Church of Scientology's fault. Besides, didn't you say that anyone could be an auditor as long as they had the texts? Well, these guys do!
Digscomics 2 months ago
@Digscomics
nonsense.
anyone can CHANGE what they learned into something else at their OWN insistence to make it "better." LOL
how do you know they didn't do that?
who would prevent it?
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr Good point. And how do you know they're not doing the same in the Church of Scientology? That would certainly explain those "transcription errors," wouldn't it?
Digscomics 2 months ago
@Digscomics
oh I don't know. who can know for sure?
I can only know if I see it myself.
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr In fact, given that the Church of Scientology would stand to benefit financially from changes to the text (i.e. people would buy them again), whereas the Freezone would make no such monetary gain, the CoS have more reason to make changes. No one would prevent them, because you wouldn't dare speak up even if you did suspect foul play.
Digscomics 2 months ago
@Digscomics
the CoS would NOT benefit from changes in the text by the Freezone, since no Scientologist would buy those in the first place.
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr But the CoS would benefit from changes in the text they made themselves, wouldn't they? Because then they could sell people the same books twice over. As happened with the recent "transcription errors" business.
Digscomics 2 months ago
@Digscomics
not at all. no Scientologist in their right mind would buy these books in the first place that would then have to be "replaced."
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr What if they'd already bought them when the "transcription errors" were announced? Because presumably when that actually happened, a lot of people had already paid a lot of money for their copies of L. Ron's overpriced toilet paper.
Digscomics 2 months ago
@Digscomics
sure digs. if they bought "them."
makes perfect "sense," as usual.
got it.
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr Are you saying they stole them?
Digscomics 2 months ago
@Digscomics
no, I think someone made off with your brain digs.
such as it was.
vaLLarrr 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr Ah, I see. You've lost the argument, so now you're trolling. Very mature. L. Ron Hubbard would be proud.
Digscomics 2 months ago
@vaLLarrr
Hey, explain Operation snow white. Explain suppressive persons.
After all, nobody has the right to sell you Scientology, it belongs to everyone. Right?
fonkymaster 2 months ago