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  • I am not going to make a judgement on Dr. Schaap because of this video. Anyone take a statement of most sermons and twist it out of context and make it sound like something that it was not meant to imply. I have personally heard Dr. Schaap on many occasions. It is of the devil to try and intentionally sew discord among the brethren.

  • @AlphaSchool2012

    Well, if you have heard Schaap you would KNOW he is of the devil, with his FALSE Social Gospel, hardly ever mentioning the name of Jesus nor any Scripture! A verse, two at most, and the rest of the 40+ minutes is all garbage!! That's understandable! The devil does not like Jesus nor the word of God!

  • @Kasine4412 Lie in the bible- Creation. If you honestly believe in bible creation and not evolution than I would just say to do some research.

  • @Kasine4412 There is way too much for me to just tell you but you can do your own research. I grew up in a independent fundimental baptist church. I went to youth conference every year and saw dr jack schaap. Its not that I am smarter than everybody else but I have looked and the bible is incredibly inaccurate and full of either things that are lies or things that cant be proven or disproven. If any thinking person looks at the bible and religion they would get that it is bullshit.

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  • Pay attention to the phrase, "as THEY call him"

  • All Baptists worship Pastors. Catholics look up to one man "the pope." And other cardinals/priests but we dont call them "men of God" and put them on a pedestal like Baptists do "big difference."

  • @bruatu I'm a Baptist and I don't worship ANY "pastor" The only one on a pedestal for me is the Lord Jesus Christ and NO MAN comes even close. You don't call anyone a "man of God"? I'm sorry you don't know any, I do.

    2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    2 Timothy 3:17 That the MAN OF GOD may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

  • ppl really have nothing better to do than make this stupid bogus video.

  • This is Obviously 2 different recordings. The title is a lie to begin with.

  • you christians are all so fucking stupid and closed minded. you are a christian becase that is the first religion that brain washed you. the pope was a catholic because that was the first religion that brain washed him. and you would all be muslim if you were bor in iraq. it doesnt make any of you any better or worse

  • I wish that eveyone would read the book Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola. 

  • Jack Schaap is a Jesuit

  • Videos like this convince me once again that Baptist Fundamentalism is something I can never be a part of again. I wasted too many years in it. It is a cruel, ungodly tradition.

  • *The*

  • Oh man Jack Schaap. He goes along with anything to get approval of men. So un Christ like. I pray for him. He grieves with them for losing a man Catholics put their confidence in? Obviously saying he wouldnt disagree with them. He's standing on the fence. Lukewarm... That's a dangerous spot. Especially if he's not really saved. Why wouldn't Jack say that Catholics shouldnt put their confidence into any other besides Jesus Christ. They only that matters!

  • soundbyeted

  • He is still defending him! What about come out from among them and be ye seperate?

  • only when (or if) schaap spends less of his time trying to appease other men(politicians and the other important figures) and more of his time, actually ALL of his time, preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, will he be preaching God's word.

  • @southsidecubfan also if we study the book of Acts, we see no pope, cardinals, archbishops, bishops, nor do we see any type of catholic teaching. one way of supporting this is that peter as well as the other apostles taught baptism by full immersion after conversion. catholics teach baptism as infants, which is thus a heresy.  finally if you study the history of the catholic church you will find that it in fact broke off of christianity around the year 300 A.D. with the rise of constantine.

  • @southsidecubfan peter was never the pope. the "keys of the kingdom" are the gospel, and in no way does this teach apotlistic succsion. also the reason catholics believe that peter started the church was his reference to being in babylon in 1st peter 5:13. the catholic church takes this, like everything else in the bible, as a metaphor of his being in rome. this scripture applies to the law of direct statement, meaning that it should be taken literally.

  • you idiots why must you hate on a man of God just because you are a heathen straight from hell dont mean my pastor is

  • you idiotes why must you hate on a man of God just because you are a heathen straight from hell dont mean my pastor is

  • @southsidecubfan First OFF PETER was MARRIED and did not teach celibacy.

    That damable doctrine of celibacy it was has the VATICAN and all their priests in SEXUAL FRUSTRATION. PETER PRACTICED NO SUCH THING or PREACHED IT.

    AND Peter never called himself a VICAR OF CHRIST. That is not biblical.

  • @southsidecubfan ANY POPE is an IMPOSTER....thier dogma teaches that the POPE is in place of Christ. That is what VICAR means "in place of". READ a KJV bible and you will see that the POPE'S SEAT is a LIE FROM HELL.

  • I think this a man that loves the lost sinner. Shame on the man that posted this all can't be as perfect as thou.

  • May I remind the creator of this video that Jack Schaap is Jack Hyles' son-in-law. Jack Hyles gave Jack Schaap the keys to his church and he was wrong for him doing so.

  • @bibleword, why was that wrong? What did Dr. Schaap do wrong from accpeting? Should he have said "no"

  • That's my old pastor preachin' there (first 1 minute). Preach it "preacher".

  • @sandbar3000

    No, I am saying Jack Hyles was wrong for allowing Jack Schaap to marry his daughter and give him the keys to the church.

  • Jesus Christ began only ONE CHURCH. He appointed the apostles as the 1st Bishops.

    "It is not you who chose Me, but I chose you and I 'ordained' you" -Jesus Jn15:16

    "Peter, TEND My flock, feed my lambs" Jn21:15-17

    "Peter, I give YOU The Keys to the Kingdom. What 'you' bind on earth is bound in heaven" Mt16:17-19 (When Matt wrote his gosp, he wrote it in Greek. He used the 2nd person SINGULAR "you" when he wrote this verse, thus Jesus singling out Peter)

    "The office of Bishop" 1Tim3

  • (contd)

    "a Bishop is God's representative" -Titus 1:7

    Peter writes: "You have returned to the shepherd and BISHOP of your souls" 1Pt2:25

    "..know that elders (bishops) that RULE well are worthy of double honor" 1Tim5:17

    "Be obedient to those that RULE for they watch your souls & must give and account" -Heb13:17

    "for you are a royal priesthood offering up sacrifices pleasing to GOD" 1Pt2:5

    "The priesthood being CHANGED" Heb7:12

    The pope is a Bishop and the successor to Peter

  • This man is just like his farther in law WICKED and EVIL!

  • This is my thought on Jack Schaap

    Proverbs 28:4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.

  • Who is Hyles...never heard of the idiot before.

    He must be a devil in disguise...lol

  • Hyles is a wonderful pastor

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  • @TheFirecogicuk o yeah you can always trust wikipedia, you're a fool

  • I think youre the fool for belivrving in these false puppets.

  • @TheFirecogicuk Haha your comments show your own ignorance ive always stood for, behind, with the King James Bible, and any preacher or friend of the King James is a Friend of mine

  • @kingjamesonly Likewise but as long as he or she live a holy life which is the least I can say about this man.

  • @TheFirecogicuk wow you clearly know nothing about neither of these men, ESPECIALLY if you get your info from Wikipedia, and if you do stand for the King James then you know nothing about it, sowing discored amoung the brethren, judgeing with an unrighteous judgement, you need to grow up

  • Sowing discord or shameing the devil?

    I think you need to wake up! the evidence espesially about this so called man of God are out there. He is not filled with the holy ghost if he was then he would not be doing this evil. 1. I'm a gown man I dont need people like you tellig me not to tell the truth about people like him. 2. I am not judgeing anyone one GOD CAN JUDGE and like the rest of us this man shall get his just reward READ YOU BIBLE PROPERLY.

  • Hayle and Schaap have demons and are in need of Jesus

    Christ.

  • wow you are a fool, you think because you're a grown man, you're making statements with no proofs or scripture, you're nothing but a modern day scorner thats angry and bitter, next time you make a statement why dont you give me scripture and evidence, you dont know your Bible you're just ignorant

  • @kingjamesonly I'm not bible ignorant. The proof to my satements are out there.

    you have not the love of God you call me a fool I think you're the fool for call me a child of God a fool I guess you have not read you bible @ all read Matthew chapter five because I think you NEED to read it read Matthew 7:1 you think you're better than me? While you there look at the mote in my eye you clearly can not see the beam in you eye.

  • @kingjamesonly I love you 1st Jhon 4:7&8 but you attitude stinks its not Christ like and will send you to HELL.

  • uh sorry, saved by grace thats 1st and 2 your statements show your ignorance of the Bible "rightly dividing the word of truth" I dont think im better then you, but you want to attack a man of God, dont try to flip the script on me, know your doctrine, it was YOUR PRIDE and attacking Gods man that started this, you "lifted up your hand against my Holy Prophets" Read your Bible and know your doctrine

  • Save by Grace? what are you on about? I did not mention anything about grace. Yes I want to attack your fales man of god

    you false phrophet . Furhtermore all you statements that you made are with sripture I think your the one who need t study a bit more 2Tim 15

  • @TheFirecogicuk wait wait wait whoa, what do you believe a man must do to be saved?

  • He/she must first repent of their sins and ask God for his forgiveness. 2 get baptised 3 seek for the in filling of the Holy Ghost. 4Life of holiness before the Lord.

  • so i have to turn from my sin and do right (WORK) ask God for forgivness AND get baptised (WORK) to get saved, and if I dont do those or turn back to sin i lose my salvation?

  • Rember we are not just saved by grace alone but by faith and faith without works is dead.

    If you turn back to sin when you get saved you lose your salvation.

  • haha typical, now you might be sincere and you can be BUT you can also be sincerly wrong, if you read 1. the book of James was written primarily to "the 12 tribes scattered abroad" v1 that verse was meant for us yes but not like that BUT i'll give you this {Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. } if works saves us (*the Bible says*) then Christ died for no reason

  • I agree with you on this one. We are saved by grace it is not of anything we have done or we could do but it is the umerited favour of a Christ's exspense although we are saved by grace there also must work or acts of our faith, hence repentce, baptism etc. We can't work for our salvation but there must be works of salvation.

  • baptism has nothing to do with somebody getting saved, baptism is a Christian (born again) first act of obiedience, and the call for repentance DOES NOT men turn from sin, but to realize the guilt of their sin, there's no work involved with salvation thats free and eternaly secure

  • @kingjamesonly, don't let anyone tell you that eternal security is not biblical. The Bible tells us over and over again that we can be SURE of our salvation. If Christ is not eternal, then salvation is not eternal either.

  • @sandbar I agree then disagree with you.

    If a man gets saved then backslide and christ comes back at the moment when that person has backslid where do they go? Heaven or Hell. Please read Romans 6:1-2&23.

  • Heaven. WHen you have a child (a son or a daughter) and if he/she goes away - leaves your teachings - does his/her own thing, what happens? Is that person still your child or someone else's child?

    It works the same way with God. You are HIS forever. That is the power of Christ.

  • Depends if the perent will take the child back. Romans 1;28

  • @TheFirecogicuk, God does not ever disown his own children. It's in the book of John Chapter 9 or 10. God can save me all by Himself, I just have to believe HIM. If I have to believe in My works and "continue to the end" in these words - then Christ died for nothing.

  • @sandbar3000 I agree with you on some point my sister but what about those whom God has spoken to but don't listen? God grace is what saves us including myself just beacuse Gos grace is there this dosen;t mean we should abuse Gods gift (Grace).

  • @TheFirecogicuk, yes Romans chapter 5 states that (I think it is chapter 5) Should we continue in sin that grace may abound? NAY! A person SHOULD live a good life after being saved. BHUT, that is not a requirement for being saved. It is not a MUST LIVE RIGHT and it is NOT A MUST DO GOOD after I am saved. No person can lose salvation. I am having this save exact converstation with another person in my PMs - this conversation has been going on for a week now.

  • @sandbar3000 You are ignorant and ulearned when it comes to the scripture! This conversation is over.

  • @TheFirecogicuk, ha ha. ulearned ? What is that? Is that the same as e-learning - or college (online college)? Ha ha. A person is saved by Christ only and the person sealed by the power of the Holy Spirit. If you dn't like that - that is due to your pride problem. You need to listen to kingjamesonly more often.

    If you wish - go to my channel and see what I have up. Have a nice day

  • 1. Repentance of sins is a work that must be accomplished every day, not because we want eternal life but because we have eternal life.

    2. Baptism is a work we do after salvation to show we have been saved, this is not a part of saving grace and never will be. Paul came to preach the gospel, not baptize people.

    3. Seeking the will of God is what we do every day.

    4. This is something we must do every day, again, because WE ARE saved.

    You, my friend, are teaching works salvation.

  • Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. (GREAT VERSE)

  • Heres another great verse Eph 2: 8-9

  • @TheFirecogicuk, AMEN!

  • Baptism makes us saved. Please read St Mark 16:16. These are JESUS'S WORDS!

  • For Christ sent me NOT TO BAPTIZE, but to preach the gospel (1st Corinthians 1:17)

    Mark 16:16 is not the only verse in the Bible.

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  • @TheFirecogicuk

    Yeah, he also said he that believeth not is condemned. It does not say, 'he that believeth not and is not baptized is condemned.' Believing is far more important than getting baptized and joining a church.

  • Actuall it believeing and baptisem both not one greater than the other.

  • @TheFirecogicuk You are only reading half of the verse, the first part says he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, and the second part says, BUT he that believeth shall not be dammed.The second half clears up any perversion that can be taken out of contex

  • You're the fool for believeing in the false preachers.

  • schaap would say that apart from Jesus you cannot be saved...and schaap clearly knows that catholicism is a false pagan religius system

  • Well since you cut and edited it so much, we can't even get what Schapp is trying to say. You ruined it.

  • Jack hyles was before his time..thank you lord... that i was lead to this page because I listened to John todds message an ex illumaniti.... amen...and guess what.. the pope is an evil man I checked him out too.. and he has just signed an encyclical the highest order in the world to the united nations to start the New world order...Jack Hyles knew this!

  • @gin198 Hi i love listening to John Todd ex-illuminati, i was just wondering if you have a link or some info on what recording John Todd speaks about Jack Hyles i really want to hear it any help would be greatly appreciated

  • @hellokatter... John Todd (Explaining The Illuminati) 2

  • This is not cool. Every power that is,,, is ordained of God and you shall not speak evil of the ruler of the people. This is not good. You ought to pray for the pope.

  • I will.

    (Psalms 55:15) Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

  • You're right. We should all pray that the Pope as well as other Catholics realize that, "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12

  • Sry I think I posted my comments backwards.

  • A fun project would be to document all of Schaap's inconsistent statements. He hold's the record among his IFB peers.

  • lol. ru kidding me. I respect very few people more than I respect Bro. Hyles, yet he is the one who went from saying that baby sprinklers who wrote the KJV couldn't of given us a perfect translation to saying that you can't be saved unless it's through the KJB. I'm using Bro. Hyles because he's the one who's being set as the standard with this video. As great of a man he is, he is at best a man. The same goes for everyone. Let's stop tearing each other down, and start lifting up the gospel.

  • John 3:3

    Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

  • hey ucsdsocceryou sounds like you can not get a girl. do you like boys??

  • why are you saying that i need help?

  • NICE MOUTH  YOU NEED HELP

  • you need help. I will pray for you

  • lol, look who's talkin dude!

  • The sermon Dr. Hyles was preaching was called "Passing the Baton". It was at Pastor's School '99. I was there to hear it, and I have one of the engraved batons sitting on my bookcase right now. This video makes it appear as if Dr. Hyles was preaching against Dr. Schapp, but the names he said were Billy Graham and W.A. Criswell. He was dead long before Dr. Schapp made this statement.

  • I've heard Dr. Schaap preach several times and usually when he sayes something controversial it's for shock value before he preaches the truth. Now, it's been several years since I've heard Dr. Schaap, and I'm not going to judge him by a minute of one of his sermons taken out of context. People can change and he may have, but I'm not going to assume it just because of two lines in a sermon looks that way. And any true would want to hear the rest instead of complaining and causing contention.

  • If you think that was something, you should of heard how Bro. Schaap rebuked the pope after hearing that he said that only Catholics go to heaven. Let's just say that Bro. Schaap didn't come close to calling the pope a good man. Of coarse, the guy who posted this video would never think of putting that on YouTube. You cannot properly judge a man by one thing that he came close to saying.

  • natkra90 I agree with you all the way

  • That's the same as saying, you can't judge Peter because of three denials; in the context of Peter's life they are minor. The words are Schaap's words. If there's an opposite context as you suggest that would explain away the obvious, then produce it, or go drink your kool-aid

  • lol. I guess I'm going to have to drink some kool-aid then because I don't remember the date he rebuked the pope for saying that only Catholics go to heaven, and it's not worth my time to look either. I guess it's just my word on this one. It shouldn't matter anyways because he didn't say the pope was a godly man; he said that the pope was someone who was looked to as a godly man. There's a big difference. It seems that discernment goes out the window when you're a critic of a gospel preacher.

  • That in itself is evidence of a lack of understanding. If Jesus were here you probably wouldn't recognize Him as a good thing either because you'd think He was a compromiser. After all, He didn't hang with the good law-abiding fundamentalists pharasees. He was with the publicans. He didn't come to seek, and bring down the lost, He came to seek and to SAVE the lost. Let's keep things in perspective.

  • Don't be deceived, Schaap did NOT say he was a man of God, he said THEY think he is a man of God, meaning the catholics, wow, you sorry losers have nothing better to do with your time, read your bible and stop posting these ridiculous videos.

  • I wasn't referring to schaap, I was referring to the many profane comments against him.

  • Schaap did NOT say the pope was a godly man.

    Exo 20:16

    (16) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

  • The fact that anyone would use profane words to describe there opinion just goes to show that they don't care about the things of God.

    We baptist believe in salvation by grace through faith alone. It is a free gift, and praise God for the precious blood of Jesus that cleanses us from sin, and bless God we don't have to work for our salvation.

  • Amen

  • theres no hope for the pope.or the beer tent at the st.marys festival get a clue and and whats with the potty mouth.spoken like a true catholic

  • man, i tell ya the first part with brother hyles was great!!!

  • This Schaap character is a total mess. Good example for why dumping a bunch of money into a place almost always creates a disaster, because for the next guy its simply a matter of controlling the endowment and the Holy Spirit heads for the door. Well, anyone with any sense should move on.

  • "If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches..." (Surah 3:156-)

  • ITs interesting I seen this earlier..Here on 4/20/08 at 9:26PM Sunday Night Im watching Dr. Schaaps message and he just called the Pope the same thing Jack Hyles called him. If you think Jack Hyles and Jack Schaap arent on the same page your sadly mistaken.

  • man fuck you guys. the pope is a man a god. don't u ever dare disrespect him. callin urselves christians shit, fukin faggets.

  • Pr 17:20 ¶ He that hath a froward heart findeth no good: and he that hath a perverse tongue falleth into mischief.

    Jas 3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

  • the only pressure a man should worry about is being faithful to god. how dare schaap come up with excuses not to serve the one true god.

  • For one its God, and he doesnt make excuses not to serve God he spends 105 hours a week on the work of God! When did you spend that much time doing something for God. They took this sermon out of context to. He never said the pope right he was saying you have no right to judge and you dont!

  • Schaap. Watch it. We judge by the scripture. How dare you support the Pope. You are slipping.

  • He never supported him he is saying he felt sorry for the people that follow the pope thinking of him as a man of God

  • I agree that we should never be happy when the wicked die-Ezk 33.11

    I just dont feel very comfortable listening to someone that spoke positive in anyway about the Vicar of Hell.

    However, Mr. Schapp, is a Man of God & so I would like to ask for yours, his, & Gods forgiveness for being critical... honestly.

    The Bible specifically commands us to avoid debates such as this, & I have broke that command. Im sorry.

    Those that are blood bought are my brothers & I love you all. God bless!

  • where does it say to not debate??

    2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

  • Schaap is NOT say that the Pope was a godly man in this piece, he is saying that the Pope's teenage followers THOUGHT he was a godly man. Don't take his words out of context.

  • He sure came close... funny he said so many nice things about the same man Jesus called a whore, drunk with the blood of the martyrs.

    "The man did his best, I think he was a sincere man. I read his articles...let me say this until you are the leader of a pretty good sized congregation let alone several hundreds of million ppl becareful how you judge anybody... [Catholic]Teenagers are looking to a godly man, to a man of god, they call him." -Schapp

  • Chapter and verse for Jesus called Pope John Paul II a whore?

  • I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy...the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus...

  • I realize that John wrote this, but Paul teaches plainly that all scripture is given by inspiration of God, and we know that Jesus and God are one.

    There is nothing good whatsoever about the Pope. His very title is "The Holy Father", nothing good can be said about someone who's whole purpose in life is to belittle the work and Word of Christ.

    Mr. Schaap, I dont have to be "the leader of a large sized congregation" to criticize the pope... All I need to do is read my Bible.

  • He said the Pope did his best - not that he did God's will. He said that the pope went to his eternal destination - not that he's in heaven. Do you think God rejoiced at the death of the pope?

    "Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked;" Ezekiel 33:11

    He says, "I want them to know the truth." Schaap seems to me to be saying that we need to show compassion - that we need to reach out to the lost through compassion. That's just Biblical.

  • "Jesus said many in that day will tell Him didn't we cast out demons,heal the sick,and preached in your name?" And Jesus will say depart from Me because I never knew. The things you said and did were unauthorized." These things said and done were not in the will of God.

  • Wrong verison you need the King James and not the new king james

  • "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matthew 7:23 KJV.

  • For we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world against spiritual wickedness in high places. Guys, this is spiritual warfare. Read about it, it's in the Bible. Quit idolizing men and start studying your Bibles.

  • Dr. Hyles, if he really accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior (because at the end of the day, only you can tell if you're saved or not), is in heaven.

    What if you make a specific Biblical stand that i don't believe is true, may i discuss them with you?

    Sometimes, we act like opinionated ones...

    Let's have a cool head on this, brethren.

    Let's win souls for Christ. Focus on the goal, not on the distractions. if your pastor/preacher has lapses, let him be. Hebrews 12:1,2

  • Besides, it's only by God's grace why we're still standing and serving Him.

    If we have find fault to someone, and it is confirmed true (if that is true), what will be the benefits from it? That we know a secret that others don't know?

  • However, it's their business, not ours. Do you ever think that your stand in your local church are absolutely true? Yes, you may answer. But why are there Baptist that greets Merry Christmas, while some Baptist churches don't like the greeting at all? (that's only one example)

  • Brethren: "So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God." (Romans 14:12)...Preachers are accountable to God...all of us are accountable to God...there's no escaping to that...

    Jack Hyles and Jack Schaap are accountable to God.

  • I was there when schapp preached this message....and this was the week the Pope died.....You picked a poor message to show how "Wrong" schaap is and all it shows is your hatred of schaap.

  • oh i'm sure when the pope wakes up he says dear satan how can I hurt someone.

  • From what I heard, it sounded more like Schaap was saying that the catholics, particulary the teens, saw the pope as a man of God, not so much that HE thought he was. His care is for the lost catholics. By the way, any of you pray for the salvation of the pope lately? He needs it, too!

  • ok u all r wrong schapp is wrong and everyone knows he cant be biblically backed up i believe we should be kind to people but i wouldnt neccesarily call the pope a man of GOd he is a stinkin fake prophet schapp says alot of things that cant be backed up biblically such as some things he says in his intamacy book and his messege about how God hates the world but come on which one of us has who is without sin cast the first stone.

  • This whole thing is stupid, why do you want to throw mud at preacher? Regardless of who is right you show your imaturity and sinfulness by posting this on youtube. (ever hear of going to your brother first if you have a problem??) get a life.

  • I understand the need to defend the testimony of Jack Schaap. I'll come right out and say it- I'm for Jack Schaap. But only because when his testimony is tarnished I talk to the tarnisher, research his evidence, and find that in every case, they are wrong. Don't just call names, research and prove them wrong.

  • The evidence the "contender crowd" (Mark Turner, Tom Neal, Greg Neal, etc.) is based on the Bible. Everything they have said is based on Biblical truths. MR. JACK SCHAAP IS PREACHING HERESY. Look in the Bible and show me something to back up Schaap. You won't find anything.

  • What business did/does Hyles or Scaap have to pass judgement on anyone. Besides that, what is the purpose of discussing topics that have no need or Biblical basis to be discussed from a pulpit.

  • we preach from the pulpit, doctrinal error when it is seen, and the Catholic doctrines are, indeed, error. It is thus a topic suitable for the pulpit.

  • Shuck Christianity back down to it's core, love. There'll be time for turning over tables later my friend. You should stand for what you believe, but if you have to stand on top of someone else to do it, then maybe we're the ones that need to learn the lesson. Keep being a light in the dark and for goodness sake tell someone you love them today, cause someone else loves you. -D

  • People need to be shown love without judgements. Pure love that says, I hate sin but I love you; and that the only reason I can love you that way is because someone else loves me unconditionally...etc. In the world today there's already enough voices shouting for people's attention: to be this, or do this, or have this; why not go back to the basics.

  • Shuck Christianity back down to it's core, love. There'll be time for turning over tables later my friend. You should stand for what you believe, but if you have to stand on top of someone else to do it, then maybe we're the ones that need to learn the lesson. Keep being a light in the dark and for goodness sake tell someone you love them today, cause someone else loves you. -D

  • Just remember that to the Catholic believers who hear people condemning their leader in that manner, as opposed to a more tactful one, it is a very big TURN-OFF to Christianity. Yeah sure, I'd love to run around fighting hell with a water pistol and shouting how Jesus saves and be blunt; but people don't respond to that.

  • Discussing doctrinal errors and how to defend your faith should be taught in a setting where people can ask questions and get involved with the discussion, instead of just being told what to believe. And I agree with you, the pope and other people who, as followers of Christ, we believe are lost and faced with a grime eternal future, need more prayer than they are given.

  • **My Reply is in 5 parts**

    Yes, doctrinal error should be talked about. But I believe that more time should be spent on preaching Biblical doctrine from the pulpit, and less time on debating whether the pope is in heaven or hell, or what have you.

  • speaking against false doctrine IS doctrine. Read 2Tim 4:1-4. It shouldn't perhaps be out primary goal, as there are many doctrines in the Bible to teach, but neither should false doctrine be winked at and ignored, because false doctrine will take a soul to hell. That's serious. It should be done in love, but it must be done

  • Bad news is tough to take. But is it better not to tell someone their house is on fire, because you might make them upset by the news, or better to upset them so they can get out to safety?

  • House fires and souls are two different things. Most people don't know that their soul is at risk, let alone believe that they have one. So acting like a pompous, arrogant, and dare I say prick; flailing about like you know more, are better than, and blatantly disrespecting someone else isn't going to "get them out to safety" any faster.

  • You know what's tough to take, the fact that most people don't want anything to do with our God because Christians will preach all about what "you should do" and when push comes to shove they can't back it up. I've seen Christians do things that the "damned" wouldn't even dream of doing. I've seen more money laundered, affairs had, children's innocence violated, and lies told out of a church in the name of God that it's not even funny.

  • A fish rots from the head down. I'm so tired of "Godly" people raping the name of Christ and manipulating it to suit their own purpose, just because they have access to a microphone. Some of that preaching about being honest and having morals needs to be applied within the churches own four walls. I'm not perfect, but I don't pretend to be either. I'd rather people see me than some facade I've built.

  • I know what the Bible says. We do need to know what we believe and others believe so that we can defend our faith. All I'm saying is it turns people off to have someone yell against them and call their leader a "victor of hell." We can speak against false doctrine without acting like a small child. That's what Scaap basically said, that his heart broke for the Catholic people because they looked to someone that he felt was leading them astray. He did all that without sounding like jerk too.

  • So, apparently Jesus raped his own name when He publically called the Pharisees, who many people respected and relied upon, "Whited sepulchres, a brood of vipers, hypocrites" in the sight of the people. The problem with churches today is that we all want to just get along, and no one wntas to hurt anyone's feelings.

  • No. Jesus didn't just walk up to them and say "hey you viper, listen to me." You can talk to people about Jesus without making someone feel belittled or disrespected.

  • we shouldn't TRY to offend, but face it, people get ofended by the name of Christ and His truths-they always have. hat's why the catholic church killed so many who opposed the wicked doctrines of transubstantiation and the giving of indulgences-burned them alive and tortured millions. People say it was in the name of Christ, but it was by the Pope's command.

  • Everyone in the Catholic church killed people who opposed their doctrine? I'm just saying don't just call someone a name and run off. If you're faced with a inquiry about the Catholic church, explain from a Biblical stand point why you don't believe like they do.

  • and please, let me know what church does all those terrible things, so I can be sure to avoid it. However, Christians are human like anyone else, and often more prone to sin, because the devil pushes us harder to ruin our testimonies and make Christ look bad-and the pastors ought to be preaching against that, too. I do. Do YOU go to the lost with the gospel, or just rock music?

  • Churches. I've seen it from fundamentalist independent baptist (Hyles Alumni), free will baptist, southern baptist, nondenominational, etc. Christians are human, but take a little responsibility for your actions. "The devil made me do it" is such a cop out.

  • Um yea, I've been in Christian education for 13 years. CEF (Child Evangelism Fellowship) for 6 years. 8 mission trips around the globe. Traveled two years with an open air group. And talked to people in all walks of life about Christ, from drug dealers to every type of "religious" follower you could imagine. And I've never met anyone who didn't appreciate politeness.

  • Christians need to start reaching these illegal immigrants (catholics) with the true gospel of Jesus Christ before America is taking over by catholicism.