How Much Did it cost you to this and was it hard to get to the problem i have a 00 ls and it just started doing that i changed the plugs and coil boots but i have the knocking noise.. what can or should i do
@ncmach1 my 2000 Lincoln ls v8 is doing the same thing I had it checked out it said I had three cylinder misfires so Im getting a Tune up this weekend and hopefully this sounds stops.......ITS ANNOYING
my car does t exact same noise it is the timing chain tighteners, It is just a piece of plastic (the tightener) , when it broke it stretched the timing chain chain of 1/8 of a inch. the ticking noise id not as bad sense we got both tighteners changed. the chain is still a 1/8thh or a inch loose, to change it it is a 20 hour job.
was this a rattle that got worse when u accelerated? thats the problem im having. a sparatic noise kind of sounds like a soda can vibrating in the engine from the cabin and it gets worse when i accelerate.
@lilfrknmnstr Yes. Get a short piece of hose and rest it on the front of the valve cover and see if thats where the most of the rattle is coming from while the motor idles.
The longer you put off looking at the chain the more it will eat into the engine block. Mine had just started to eat the aluminum right where the valve cover sits on the block.
HELP!!! has any1 had this problem i have a 2001 lincoln ls it drives fine through town but wen i go to around 45-55mph it shakes at highway speeds it calms as it is driving steady(not accelerating) does anyone have any ideas wat it could be i dont want to sell the car
@valadezjose47 Yep, the wifes did the same thing for over a year. Then the rattle got real bad and thats when I decided to look at the tensioners. Glad I did, before the chain eat into the block any more. I have pics on the link in my description.
@valadezjose47 Yes it is a bitch to work on. Especially removing all the junk just so you can get the valve covers off! I will be glad when the wife can buy a Taurus or something else.
OKAY So I fixed the timing on it. It jumped a tooth on the exhaust timing.. Still make a racket! So Im wondering .NCMACH1 U said your Chain was 1/8th off.. I never replaced my chain but im wondering.. where did u get the chain from and how much was it..?
If you could reply back to this or send me a PM please
Alright thanks. I found the cam timing chain on his website. I also bought my tensioner from him a while back ago.
Now is it possible that my chain could appear and feel to be tight when the engne is off but when everything is back together and the engine is on, the chain is hitting something? I mean my car sounds exactly like yours.. I replaced the tensioner and no luck.. like i said I fixed the timing also.. So i think the next step is to buy a whole new chain incase it stretched
@XCaptaintravis and for Ur rough idle, if u put it all back together but didn't use the timing tool then I'm sure Ur timing is off and u could wind up bending a rod
@XCaptaintravis Sorry For the delay. Due to tech difficulties I had to let the car go. But I'm hearing the 03 is a great year for that model. Well reall like the best. 03&4 so I'm bout to grab one of those and dress her up real nice
last ? i know i gettin on ur nerves but thank u sooooooo much... do u think that the tensioner being broke( secondary) that it kept the noice from happening... and wen i replaced them being that it tightened everything back up, cud be makin the sound noticeable. wondering if i can do the sec chains without the looking tool...
@00Kentertainment You replaced the secondary tensioners. The chains that go down to the crank is primary, and those tensioners are long and difficult to replace. The whole front of the engine has to come off.
MINE TOO!! I replaced the Driver side Secondary timing chain tensioner, old one was FUCKED. So put it all tofether.. Made same noise! And the idle is terrible and Cylinder number 6 or 7 is misfiring... You can hear it in the exhaust.. WHAT DO I DO!?
thanks for the fast reply... i did to 2 upper tensioners driver n pass... it didnt have that rattle before i did it but the pass was completely broke. drivers was cracked. i didnt use a tool wen i took the spocket off but i market them n put em back perfect... but the chain may have streached like u said so ima get 2 chains n see if that works... Do u Think the long chains cud be streached as well? never read anything on the long ones. just the short ones
@00Kentertainment Yes, my chain had stretched enough to start hitting the engine case right where the valve cover sits. Mine was lopeing real bad so it had to be the fact the cam had jumped 1 tooth. Oh and the compression checked fine. So that is not a indication a cam has jumped 1 tooth.
There is a good discussion about these problems over on the automotiveforums(.)com and lincolnvscadillac(.)com and also jaguarforums(.)com
Thats where I put the pics of how bad mine looked.
question. the same thing is happening with my 2001 ls v8 i just did the upper tensioners and now i have that rattle... i didnt have it before the fact. just had a lil rattle from the pass side that was broke so i did both sides. now i got the loud rattle... did u fix this???
@00Kentertainment I ended up replacing both secondary tensioners and the left secondary chain. Reason I replaced the chain is it had stretched about 1/8" and the cam had jumped 1 tooth.
Much quieter now.
I hate to think your problem could be the primary tensioners. That would involve removing the front cover of the motor. Not a job I would want to do.
Common denominator seems to be 00-02 model years. How many miles on it? Anybody with the same problem with 03 and newer?
weelgunny 4 days ago
How Much Did it cost you to this and was it hard to get to the problem i have a 00 ls and it just started doing that i changed the plugs and coil boots but i have the knocking noise.. what can or should i do
MOSES1199 5 days ago
@MOSES1199 The chain is $60, and both upper tensioners is $140 on Ebay from
CHRISTOPHER'S FOREIGN CAR PARTS.
ncmach1 5 days ago
@ncmach1 my 2000 Lincoln ls v8 is doing the same thing I had it checked out it said I had three cylinder misfires so Im getting a Tune up this weekend and hopefully this sounds stops.......ITS ANNOYING
MrCaveblkent 6 days ago
@MrCaveblkent let me noe if it stopped afterwards because is doing the same thing and ur right it is annoying and im not sure wat to do to it
MOSES1199 5 days ago
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my car does t exact same noise it is the timing chain tighteners, It is just a piece of plastic (the tightener) , when it broke it stretched the timing chain chain of 1/8 of a inch. the ticking noise id not as bad sense we got both tighteners changed. the chain is still a 1/8thh or a inch loose, to change it it is a 20 hour job.
TylerLeBlancKTM 1 month ago
was this a rattle that got worse when u accelerated? thats the problem im having. a sparatic noise kind of sounds like a soda can vibrating in the engine from the cabin and it gets worse when i accelerate.
lilfrknmnstr 1 month ago
@lilfrknmnstr Yes. Get a short piece of hose and rest it on the front of the valve cover and see if thats where the most of the rattle is coming from while the motor idles.
The longer you put off looking at the chain the more it will eat into the engine block. Mine had just started to eat the aluminum right where the valve cover sits on the block.
ncmach1 1 month ago
HELP!!! has any1 had this problem i have a 2001 lincoln ls it drives fine through town but wen i go to around 45-55mph it shakes at highway speeds it calms as it is driving steady(not accelerating) does anyone have any ideas wat it could be i dont want to sell the car
valadezjose47 2 months ago
@valadezjose47 Yep, the wifes did the same thing for over a year. Then the rattle got real bad and thats when I decided to look at the tensioners. Glad I did, before the chain eat into the block any more. I have pics on the link in my description.
ncmach1 1 month ago
@ncmach1 i finally got it fixed it was a misfire and now the car is drtiving great ill be honest it was a bitch to fix every thing wrong the car had
valadezjose47 1 month ago
@valadezjose47 Yes it is a bitch to work on. Especially removing all the junk just so you can get the valve covers off! I will be glad when the wife can buy a Taurus or something else.
ncmach1 1 month ago
OKAY So I fixed the timing on it. It jumped a tooth on the exhaust timing.. Still make a racket! So Im wondering .NCMACH1 U said your Chain was 1/8th off.. I never replaced my chain but im wondering.. where did u get the chain from and how much was it..?
If you could reply back to this or send me a PM please
Xcapitantravis 9 months ago
@Xcapitantravis I bought the tensioners and chain on Ebay from CHRISTOPHER'S FOREIGN CAR PARTS.
Search this item number, 350108168701
He gets $60 for a chain with master link.
ncmach1 9 months ago
@ncmach1
Alright thanks. I found the cam timing chain on his website. I also bought my tensioner from him a while back ago.
Now is it possible that my chain could appear and feel to be tight when the engne is off but when everything is back together and the engine is on, the chain is hitting something? I mean my car sounds exactly like yours.. I replaced the tensioner and no luck.. like i said I fixed the timing also.. So i think the next step is to buy a whole new chain incase it stretched
Xcapitantravis 9 months ago
@Xcapitantravis There is a possibility your primary chain tensioners, or chain are bad.
ncmach1 9 months ago
I didn't use any timing tool. Each cam has a flat on it, and should be facing up all together. All I had to do was turn the one cam one tooth.
Now here is the strange thing. After doing this work for about a week after it was done it still had a miss in it when it would pull a hill.
A couple of weeks went by and it smoothed itself out for some reason.
Maybe the stupid computer realized it was back in time.
ncmach1 9 months ago
@XCaptaintravis and for Ur rough idle, if u put it all back together but didn't use the timing tool then I'm sure Ur timing is off and u could wind up bending a rod
00Kentertainment 9 months ago
@XCaptaintravis Sorry For the delay. Due to tech difficulties I had to let the car go. But I'm hearing the 03 is a great year for that model. Well reall like the best. 03&4 so I'm bout to grab one of those and dress her up real nice
00Kentertainment 9 months ago
last ? i know i gettin on ur nerves but thank u sooooooo much... do u think that the tensioner being broke( secondary) that it kept the noice from happening... and wen i replaced them being that it tightened everything back up, cud be makin the sound noticeable. wondering if i can do the sec chains without the looking tool...
00Kentertainment 11 months ago
One quest. Which ones are the prime and which ones are sec? I did the top to rite under the gasket cover. But every one misnames them.
00Kentertainment 11 months ago
@00Kentertainment You replaced the secondary tensioners. The chains that go down to the crank is primary, and those tensioners are long and difficult to replace. The whole front of the engine has to come off.
ncmach1 11 months ago
also mine sounds just like urs... shutters on idle like its struggling to stay on...
00Kentertainment 11 months ago
@00Kentertainment
MINE TOO!! I replaced the Driver side Secondary timing chain tensioner, old one was FUCKED. So put it all tofether.. Made same noise! And the idle is terrible and Cylinder number 6 or 7 is misfiring... You can hear it in the exhaust.. WHAT DO I DO!?
XCaptaintravis 10 months ago
thanks for the fast reply... i did to 2 upper tensioners driver n pass... it didnt have that rattle before i did it but the pass was completely broke. drivers was cracked. i didnt use a tool wen i took the spocket off but i market them n put em back perfect... but the chain may have streached like u said so ima get 2 chains n see if that works... Do u Think the long chains cud be streached as well? never read anything on the long ones. just the short ones
00Kentertainment 11 months ago
@00Kentertainment Yes, my chain had stretched enough to start hitting the engine case right where the valve cover sits. Mine was lopeing real bad so it had to be the fact the cam had jumped 1 tooth. Oh and the compression checked fine. So that is not a indication a cam has jumped 1 tooth.
There is a good discussion about these problems over on the automotiveforums(.)com and lincolnvscadillac(.)com and also jaguarforums(.)com
Thats where I put the pics of how bad mine looked.
ncmach1 11 months ago
question. the same thing is happening with my 2001 ls v8 i just did the upper tensioners and now i have that rattle... i didnt have it before the fact. just had a lil rattle from the pass side that was broke so i did both sides. now i got the loud rattle... did u fix this???
00Kentertainment 11 months ago
@00Kentertainment I ended up replacing both secondary tensioners and the left secondary chain. Reason I replaced the chain is it had stretched about 1/8" and the cam had jumped 1 tooth.
Much quieter now.
I hate to think your problem could be the primary tensioners. That would involve removing the front cover of the motor. Not a job I would want to do.
ncmach1 11 months ago