Finally, you seem to think that mountains only form upwards. Expand your thinking and realize that a "mountain" can form downward (just like an iceberg is 80%+ below water).
you see, your own words are true, you just chose to stop reading about isostasy when you felt it supported your theory. Mountains are the result of a colision of tectonic plates. just as you crush a car, the density of the created mountains demands that before they move you need to apply greater and greater pressue... ever try to move a linebacker by pushing him with your finger... same goes with mountains... lest it should shake with you.
They do, but mountains also act as shock absorbers otherwise as the plates constantly try to move, we would have constant earthquakes... constant earthquakes. The Quran never said that it would NEVER shake, lest it should shake - reducing the phenomina and it's effects. Maybe you need to read the Quran again.
maybe your heart is-that's not for me to decide. What I can interpolate is that you hate Islam for whatever reason-your choice. However you have decided to dismiss the context around "isostasy". Equilibriam is not a constant... the weaker plates are forced either up or downward creating what we call mountains. The effect ensures that the transfer of motion (pressure) is displaced instead of having the effect ripple accross the land mass. lest it should shake with you (not that it will never)
Are you kidding me!!! What books are you reading?! There is tones of substatiated evidence that mountains support the stability of continents. If they don't go up (the plates) they go downward. They thicken and become (as anything that thickens) more stable. I really don't see how you can be missing the entire understanding of isostasy?!!
You need to review the theory of isostasy and that of "balance". No one with a understanding of this field of study will tell you that isostasy is about constant balance. I think you need to do a lot more research before you make claims that are not substansiated by the theory itself. Isostasy is a view... read up on how the Himalayas are NOT in equilibriam. Since this is the case, then you must conclude that Isostasy is not a constant & thus open to criticisim as a theory.
So then what is your counter claim that mountains act as pegs and that they help stabilize the crust? Step 1 to agreement: We know that mountains look like pegs when formed (mass above and below the sea level if you will). Do you agree with this fact? So if isostasy is not your means to an end, what basis do you try and prove this fact wrong?
The mountains may LOOK LIKE pegs, however they don't ACT as pegs for the crust. Rather, I'd say they "act as pegs" for themselves: because they are stabilized by their buoyancy.
What? The stabilizing effect of mountains is FACT? Could you bring the (non-Mulsim) scientists who clearly stated this role of mountains, please?
A bit racist don't you think? Non-Muslim scientists!WOW!...IF you understood isostysis, then you know that your comment is ridiculous; the more compact you make anything the less likely you are to move it. The "theory" lets say is that mountains are a stabalizing force; please prove me wrong with non-muslim non-racist scientists (to play on your silly comment). I bet you don't think the earth is round, that's in the Quran too; or the big-bang theory since it's in the Quran as well.
Professor Emeritus Frank Press. He was the Science Advisor to former US President Jimmy Carter, and for 12 years was the President of the National Academy of Sciences, Washington, DC. Unless you think somehow he doesn't count?
To add to the fact that your arabic is obviusly faulty, since the translation is in English (talk about the Arabic)... if you knew the arabic you wouldn't even be comenting... ie: "You see the mountains and think them firmly fixed; but they pass away as the clouds pass away..." [27:88]
So please sir, just state the obvious. You are hell bent on trying to find a fault even if you have to go so far as dismissing isostisys when it was your original defense. And just because you don't think there are non-muslim scientists that can confirm this, then you have the "dark ages" mentality when all the world but Islam was in darkness and the ummah brought you light through the will of Allah. Plain and simple. If you don't like Islam, then stop using what it gave you.
errr....bmmaz001, use another argument, because I HAVE Dr.Press' book, and I can assure you that he didn't write therein that mountains stabilize the earth.
What a shame! you agreed those islamic preachers (dr.naik, for instance), who claimed that a geologist confirmed in his book the function of mountains stated in the Quran, without checking if they are right or not...
Isostasy deals with the 'flotation' of the lithosphere on the asthenosphere. It means that continents and mountains are supported by their own buoyancy.
Now, what's happen if you 'take off' mountains? Well, the lithopshere will be still stable, it will be still be supported by its buoyancy. So, mountains don't affect the flotation of the whole plates.
Isostasy never states that mountains are a stabilizing force. You are scientifically inaccurate!
The hearts of these people are sealed. If you had any inclination other than pure hate, then you would have recognized that this is a sign of the function of mountains. You only know about it because Science has proven it. You see, your only failure is to blind yourself to the truth. Just as a dead crop is brought back to life with rain, you will be brought back to life to answer to God.
The hearts of those people are sealed. If you had any inclination other than pure hate, then you would have recognized that this is a sign of the function of mountains. You only know about it because Science has proven it. Just as the big bang theory is now considered the "truth" you wouldn't have found that in the Qur'an, but it's there. so you see, your only failure is to blind yourself to the truth. Just as a dead crop is brought back to life with rain, you will be bro
The only thing that surpasses the stupidity of the koran, bible, and other dreadful books are the people who are bend on providing them with false authority. Apart from cultural/historical/anthropological sciences these works have no value or place in modern science or civilisation.
This video has to be a joke. It starts by saying the mountains don't move, then it changes its mind and says they do. Is this really how religious people think? Now, why use the Koran as authority on plate tectonics? Why not use plate tectonics as the authority on plate tectonics, and ignore the Koran?
Really? So mountains don't move. Quite apart from the fact that tectonics continues regardless of mountains, what about where a large mountain range loses its root? Dense roots actually fall off, like a thick blob of syrup. This results in large mountains gaining height when they lose their roots.
dude if u think that quran is all about hate then why does it always encourage peace over war. tell me something if some attacks ur country raping ur women and killing innocent people wat do u suppose to do. do u let him do that or do u retaliate. thats what quran teaches us if u have to defend urself than u should
Ahh AAL; I see you ran into this video as well. I'm making a video response to this one soon. I wasn't aware of this video at all but HFD I guess thought I needed to see it and sent it to me not too long ago.
hey man dude listen if u think the quran is wrong then keeping thinking that. no one can prove u or me wrong b/c its human pyscology you will keeping presenting facts which might make senes to you but not to me. on the day of judgment we will see how is right or wrong.
according to the quran it say in there " we have sealed the hearts of the unbelivers" so u will never understand the quran.
try and prove ur really real!try and prove u even think!try and make sense that life has no meaning then jus when u think u know, try and prove u dont know!!!!!!!
not compelling. Citations of the literature, other than misrepresented, out of context phrases. Need the gull text, or interviews with unaffiliated geologists to even begin to attempt to make such a pt. The claim is not present there, in the technical literature . YOU MISREPRESENT.
Go ahead show me in the technical literature where mountains are referred to have a function or purpose! They are a consequence of tectonic plate collision. Someone is not reading the technical literature.
This is the best humor I've run across for a while. Mtns a consequence of plate movements, & not a 'function'. A great example of the feeblest attempt to interpret bedouin musings.
Muslim means one who submits his will to Amighty God. Alhamdulilla from what I have heard you seem to be a Muslim, but, we have to remember that every prophet (pbut) have been sent for a specific era/time. Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) is the last and final messenger so we have to first follow him then learn from other respected prophets.
but in the book he delivered [he was made to report that
each nation was sent [in thier own tonue ]thier own messenger
i mean no disrespect, to mahamoud ,but must keep in mind the last messenger [in the holy lands] [in the mother tongue] is mahamoud ,but delivering the last message , dosnt mean,god hasnt admitted reporters into the heavens and hells
[from other lands] who reported [not gods message] but the reality of heaven and hell
Now that is up to you to decide. That's a main reason why Islam has many sectors today. It's because many individuals don't want to believe the whole Quran, instead they have their own ideas which they want to include with the religion.
yama i believe the quran it is not the only book i read the quran was the last book i needed to read in full it made sense of the others i folow gods will and found the quran my journey is not over i can not follow one religion all have a part of god,thier total is all gods revelations to man we walk out own path mahamouds house is divided as christs as lord budda's,chrisna's they revealed much, each divided into ever tighter understandings but none more important than god
If you really do study several religions then it is unto you to research which is the right one. I used to be in your shoes just few months ago; I think I found my answer. Now its your turn ;)
I hope you find the truth and the Lord of Christ(PBUH), God of Muhammed(PBUH) guides you in this life. Hope to hear from you again brother.
Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - we make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying.
we are told that god has but to say be and it is [this is what i believe]
science is study of fact, they then cover the fact with a theory, then test the theory ,to find its laws, when the laws stay constant , the theory becomes science
evolution is at the theory stage [it hasnt replicated a single new species, nor even made a single cell, thus remains a theory]
39;28,it is a quranwithout any crookedness therein, in order that it may guard against deciet
29 god puts forth a patrrable ,a man belonging to many partners ..[is not the book selfsuficient ; what the 'need' for 'science'
theory?]..at vairiance with each other , and a man belonging entoirely to one master; are those two equal in comparison?praise be to god. but most of them have no knowledge.
yes my teacher but before it is 27;87''and the day of the trumpet will be sounded , then will be smitten with terror..except such as god will please to exzempt, and all who come to his presence [as beings concious of our lowlyness[and his mercy]
93 and say praise be god ,who will soon show us his signs , so we may know them[and our god is not unmindfull of all we do
[non may know but him; we have freewill to say
science is right or the messengers quran[peace upon him]
i was fortunate to talk to the man who claimed he invented the plate theory, he revealed much that contradicted the theory , but he was old and wiser i couldnt doudt him, nor point out where they contradicted
[why the plates ;rubbing away still fit perfectly?][how one plate 100 miles thick can slip beneaths another 100 mile thick plate [200 miles?of face plate contact [times lenghth]spreads preasure to very little]
certainly not enought to push unseen/unfelt a plate down 100 MILES
re 29;105 [reads with 20;102,''the day of the trumpet'']
re 27;88[reads with 27;87 ,''and the day of the trumpet..'']
re 31;10[reads with 31;7[about a time ]''when our signs are rehersed[8] for those who believe..a gardins of bliss[9]to dwell therin.the promis of god ...10 he created the heavens..mountains standing firm..beasts of all kinds][11]such is the creation of god..
29;10 reads then there are some men such as say''we believe in god'', but when they suffer affliction in the cause of god]..[trumpet day?]..they treat mens afflictions as if they were the wrath [of god]
and if help come , they are sure to say ''we have allways beenwith god , does god not know best..
or
15but we saved him..and made the ark a sign for all peoples
ergo "peg".
bmmaz001 3 years ago
Finally, you seem to think that mountains only form upwards. Expand your thinking and realize that a "mountain" can form downward (just like an iceberg is 80%+ below water).
bmmaz001 3 years ago
you see, your own words are true, you just chose to stop reading about isostasy when you felt it supported your theory. Mountains are the result of a colision of tectonic plates. just as you crush a car, the density of the created mountains demands that before they move you need to apply greater and greater pressue... ever try to move a linebacker by pushing him with your finger... same goes with mountains... lest it should shake with you.
bmmaz001 3 years ago
Contrary to Harun Yahya's claim, isostasy never deals with the alleged fisxing effect of mountains. Just learn this theory.
silveren777 3 years ago
And don't forget that when plates form mountains, they also create earthquakes.
silveren777 3 years ago
They do, but mountains also act as shock absorbers otherwise as the plates constantly try to move, we would have constant earthquakes... constant earthquakes. The Quran never said that it would NEVER shake, lest it should shake - reducing the phenomina and it's effects. Maybe you need to read the Quran again.
bmmaz001 3 years ago
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silveren777 2 years ago
maybe your heart is-that's not for me to decide. What I can interpolate is that you hate Islam for whatever reason-your choice. However you have decided to dismiss the context around "isostasy". Equilibriam is not a constant... the weaker plates are forced either up or downward creating what we call mountains. The effect ensures that the transfer of motion (pressure) is displaced instead of having the effect ripple accross the land mass. lest it should shake with you (not that it will never)
bmmaz001 3 years ago
According to the theory of isostasy, each masse are balanced. You see? isostasy doesn't state that mountains stabilize the crust.
silveren777 3 years ago
Moreover, there are no scientific evidences that mountains prevent the earth from shaking.
indeed, the crust may shake (earthquakes) near them.
silveren777 3 years ago
Are you kidding me!!! What books are you reading?! There is tones of substatiated evidence that mountains support the stability of continents. If they don't go up (the plates) they go downward. They thicken and become (as anything that thickens) more stable. I really don't see how you can be missing the entire understanding of isostasy?!!
bmmaz001 3 years ago
You need to review the theory of isostasy and that of "balance". No one with a understanding of this field of study will tell you that isostasy is about constant balance. I think you need to do a lot more research before you make claims that are not substansiated by the theory itself. Isostasy is a view... read up on how the Himalayas are NOT in equilibriam. Since this is the case, then you must conclude that Isostasy is not a constant & thus open to criticisim as a theory.
bmmaz001 3 years ago
I didn't say that isostasy was CONSTANT.
"It open to cristism as a theory? "
Who cares? It is not me who used this theory to prove that mountains stabilize the earth.
silveren777 3 years ago
So then what is your counter claim that mountains act as pegs and that they help stabilize the crust? Step 1 to agreement: We know that mountains look like pegs when formed (mass above and below the sea level if you will). Do you agree with this fact? So if isostasy is not your means to an end, what basis do you try and prove this fact wrong?
bmmaz001 3 years ago
The mountains may LOOK LIKE pegs, however they don't ACT as pegs for the crust. Rather, I'd say they "act as pegs" for themselves: because they are stabilized by their buoyancy.
What? The stabilizing effect of mountains is FACT? Could you bring the (non-Mulsim) scientists who clearly stated this role of mountains, please?
silveren777 3 years ago
By the way, like certain Muslims, do you believe that Dr.Press mentionned, in his book, the function of mountains?
silveren777 3 years ago
A bit racist don't you think? Non-Muslim scientists!WOW!...IF you understood isostysis, then you know that your comment is ridiculous; the more compact you make anything the less likely you are to move it. The "theory" lets say is that mountains are a stabalizing force; please prove me wrong with non-muslim non-racist scientists (to play on your silly comment). I bet you don't think the earth is round, that's in the Quran too; or the big-bang theory since it's in the Quran as well.
bmmaz001 3 years ago
However back to your racist question:
Professor Emeritus Frank Press. He was the Science Advisor to former US President Jimmy Carter, and for 12 years was the President of the National Academy of Sciences, Washington, DC. Unless you think somehow he doesn't count?
bmmaz001 3 years ago
To add to the fact that your arabic is obviusly faulty, since the translation is in English (talk about the Arabic)... if you knew the arabic you wouldn't even be comenting... ie: "You see the mountains and think them firmly fixed; but they pass away as the clouds pass away..." [27:88]
bmmaz001 3 years ago
So please sir, just state the obvious. You are hell bent on trying to find a fault even if you have to go so far as dismissing isostisys when it was your original defense. And just because you don't think there are non-muslim scientists that can confirm this, then you have the "dark ages" mentality when all the world but Islam was in darkness and the ummah brought you light through the will of Allah. Plain and simple. If you don't like Islam, then stop using what it gave you.
bmmaz001 3 years ago
I know that, so do you really believe that Dr.Press support your idea?
silveren777 3 years ago
If he really wrote "the function of mountains is to stabilize the earth", then please provide the page numbers of that statement.
silveren777 3 years ago
Dr.Press counts, but....
errr....bmmaz001, use another argument, because I HAVE Dr.Press' book, and I can assure you that he didn't write therein that mountains stabilize the earth.
What a shame! you agreed those islamic preachers (dr.naik, for instance), who claimed that a geologist confirmed in his book the function of mountains stated in the Quran, without checking if they are right or not...
silveren777 3 years ago
Isostasy deals with the 'flotation' of the lithosphere on the asthenosphere. It means that continents and mountains are supported by their own buoyancy.
Now, what's happen if you 'take off' mountains? Well, the lithopshere will be still stable, it will be still be supported by its buoyancy. So, mountains don't affect the flotation of the whole plates.
Isostasy never states that mountains are a stabilizing force. You are scientifically inaccurate!
Thus, it's your comment that is ridiculous.
silveren777 3 years ago
Thus, the Quran is false about mountains function.
silveren777 3 years ago
Isostasy deals with the 'flotation' of lithosphere on mantle. It has NOTHING to do with "mountains bringing stability to the crust".
Mountains are a stabilizing force?
You are very inaccurate and meaningless.
Verily, you know a lot about this theory...
silveren777 3 years ago
The hearts of these people are sealed. If you had any inclination other than pure hate, then you would have recognized that this is a sign of the function of mountains. You only know about it because Science has proven it. You see, your only failure is to blind yourself to the truth. Just as a dead crop is brought back to life with rain, you will be brought back to life to answer to God.
bmmaz001 4 years ago
my heart is sealed as well?
Science never proved that mountains stabilize the crust. Moreover, isostasy doesn't support that mountains fixe the earth. So, here Harun Yahya lied.
Thus, Quran makes a scientific error here.
silveren777 3 years ago
The hearts of those people are sealed. If you had any inclination other than pure hate, then you would have recognized that this is a sign of the function of mountains. You only know about it because Science has proven it. Just as the big bang theory is now considered the "truth" you wouldn't have found that in the Qur'an, but it's there. so you see, your only failure is to blind yourself to the truth. Just as a dead crop is brought back to life with rain, you will be bro
bmmaz001 4 years ago
Excellent Video.
Thank you for sharing.
Jazaka Allahu Khairan
fred7373 4 years ago
last i heard when mountains are formed along the ocean like that by 2 plates pushing together it causes...earthquakes.
Blake97201 4 years ago
Ah Salami Bacon my brother
BoozyBeggar 4 years ago
thank you, you have reafirmed my long held belief that poseidon is the one and only lord. I thank you muslim "scholars" for doing this.
xXJADEXx7 4 years ago
The only thing that surpasses the stupidity of the koran, bible, and other dreadful books are the people who are bend on providing them with false authority. Apart from cultural/historical/anthropological sciences these works have no value or place in modern science or civilisation.
retepvosnul 4 years ago
This video has to be a joke. It starts by saying the mountains don't move, then it changes its mind and says they do. Is this really how religious people think? Now, why use the Koran as authority on plate tectonics? Why not use plate tectonics as the authority on plate tectonics, and ignore the Koran?
stevebritgimp 4 years ago
Really? So mountains don't move. Quite apart from the fact that tectonics continues regardless of mountains, what about where a large mountain range loses its root? Dense roots actually fall off, like a thick blob of syrup. This results in large mountains gaining height when they lose their roots.
stevebritgimp 4 years ago
lol.I love stuff like this!Thanks for the joke!
worldlystone 4 years ago
Well, what matters it; believe this too.
mindwis3 4 years ago
well, that day is the day of your death, we all die, so Ill be there in your mind telling you I TOLD YOU SO !
AtheistAtLARGE 4 years ago
ah la ha ha gave me nothing lol
what part of the koran should i read, only the parts u want me to read ? lol
Ill read what I want ...
AtheistAtLARGE 4 years ago
dude if u think that quran is all about hate then why does it always encourage peace over war. tell me something if some attacks ur country raping ur women and killing innocent people wat do u suppose to do. do u let him do that or do u retaliate. thats what quran teaches us if u have to defend urself than u should
peace :)
smusab 4 years ago
lol
believe what you want, but THAT IS A TOTAL FABRICATION to try and give you some hope that the koran has any kind of truth in it
AtheistAtLARGE 4 years ago
Ahh AAL; I see you ran into this video as well. I'm making a video response to this one soon. I wasn't aware of this video at all but HFD I guess thought I needed to see it and sent it to me not too long ago.
Razua77 4 years ago
Einstein's beleif in god is a concept that Im sure you dont understand, so using it doesnt help your position.
You talk about study, well please show me a geologist that isnt a muzzie that agrees with all the BULLSHIT in this video
AtheistAtLARGE 4 years ago
hey man dude listen if u think the quran is wrong then keeping thinking that. no one can prove u or me wrong b/c its human pyscology you will keeping presenting facts which might make senes to you but not to me. on the day of judgment we will see how is right or wrong.
according to the quran it say in there " we have sealed the hearts of the unbelivers" so u will never understand the quran.
peace out (:
smusab 4 years ago
when your day of judgement arrives , Ill be there telling u, I TOLD U SO HA HA HA HA !
There is no peace in the koran, its all about war .
AtheistAtLARGE 4 years ago
try and prove ur really real!try and prove u even think!try and make sense that life has no meaning then jus when u think u know, try and prove u dont know!!!!!!!
obisitz 4 years ago
not even close to being 'scientific literature'
AtheistCitizen 4 years ago
no, you do not get it. I said the technical literature. It has no creed, or ethnicity.
AtheistCitizen 4 years ago
not compelling. Citations of the literature, other than misrepresented, out of context phrases. Need the gull text, or interviews with unaffiliated geologists to even begin to attempt to make such a pt. The claim is not present there, in the technical literature . YOU MISREPRESENT.
AtheistCitizen 4 years ago
Go ahead show me in the technical literature where mountains are referred to have a function or purpose! They are a consequence of tectonic plate collision. Someone is not reading the technical literature.
AtheistCitizen 4 years ago
lol absolute non sense lol
AtheistAtLARGE 4 years ago
allahu ekber
Qartanesi66 4 years ago
thisistruth(dot)org
zakuk77 4 years ago
This is the best humor I've run across for a while. Mtns a consequence of plate movements, & not a 'function'. A great example of the feeblest attempt to interpret bedouin musings.
AtheistCitizen 4 years ago
I will not eat green eggs and ham
-doctor seuss
This is clearly proof of Suess's prophetic knowledge of the toxicity of bacteria found in spoiled pork and eggs.
DeimosSaturn 4 years ago
looool :D
HighFlyingDutchman 4 years ago
The Koran and Rastas agree on the new Babylon empire.
related vid: Rasta on Babylon "Christianity"
Ecothearcy 4 years ago
i follow gods will
i follow the teachings of many prophets sent from god
i am guided by them all
what is a name [there is one god ]
all have revealed him to be merecyfull
it is only mans fears that has made god not appear the living loving grace he allways was and will be
i was a scientist before i became a believer
thus am not fooled by science
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
1oneundergod1
Muslim means one who submits his will to Amighty God. Alhamdulilla from what I have heard you seem to be a Muslim, but, we have to remember that every prophet (pbut) have been sent for a specific era/time. Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) is the last and final messenger so we have to first follow him then learn from other respected prophets.
yamazz3 4 years ago
the last messenger [peace upon him]
but in the book he delivered [he was made to report that
each nation was sent [in thier own tonue ]thier own messenger
i mean no disrespect, to mahamoud ,but must keep in mind the last messenger [in the holy lands] [in the mother tongue] is mahamoud ,but delivering the last message , dosnt mean,god hasnt admitted reporters into the heavens and hells
[from other lands] who reported [not gods message] but the reality of heaven and hell
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
Now that is up to you to decide. That's a main reason why Islam has many sectors today. It's because many individuals don't want to believe the whole Quran, instead they have their own ideas which they want to include with the religion.
yamazz3 4 years ago
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
1oneundergod1,
If you really do study several religions then it is unto you to research which is the right one. I used to be in your shoes just few months ago; I think I found my answer. Now its your turn ;)
I hope you find the truth and the Lord of Christ(PBUH), God of Muhammed(PBUH) guides you in this life. Hope to hear from you again brother.
Elias
itzilyas 4 years ago
i cant follow any messenger
they all reveal god
to reject god to become exclusivly christian or muslim is unthinkable
the quran is holy [so is the bible ,torah etc]
but books cant replace the living god reality alone can un veil
i know islam means living by gods will
and if forced to say i follow gods way [live time all the time]
but he [god] has sent many messengers ,i hold them all blessed ,[as equal] the first no more than the last
i cant follow one before the other
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
man,Jonah,Quran says exactly what you say,read 2,285-286 carefully,and many other verses,then you will see that,you already say what Quran says
best regards
HighFlyingDutchman 4 years ago
thank you my friend
let us [286]..;OUR lord lay not on us a burden greater than we have the strength to bear, blot out our sins and grant us [all] forgivness.
[you alone] have mercy on us [all]. you [alone] are our protector; help us [all, to stand firm]against those who stand against [all] faith
blessings be upon all thy messengers and followers ,who revealed to us in our own tongue the way of islam
peace[shalome][ahh men]
may his peace be upon us all
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - we make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying.
2,285
that's what i mean
shalom ;)
HighFlyingDutchman 4 years ago
abzr88
creation takes the most faith
we are told that god has but to say be and it is [this is what i believe]
science is study of fact, they then cover the fact with a theory, then test the theory ,to find its laws, when the laws stay constant , the theory becomes science
evolution is at the theory stage [it hasnt replicated a single new species, nor even made a single cell, thus remains a theory]
gods fact
evolutions theory
its a simple choice
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
Allah has created the Qur'an.
DamuEmran 4 years ago
21;31.that they may recieve guidence
21;31..'so that it would NOT move under them'
[either on a plate nor movie]../'lest it should shake them'[into faith into scienc's theory's?]
please note @ 1 ,min 26 seconds ;the cartoon indicates 100 mile high mountains [later it is stated the 'crust' is 100 miles thick
bending/folding some thing [the crust]100 miles thick ,.means the mountains depicted in the cartoon would be 1000 miles high.
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
when we talk of the stronger one folding the weaker one ?20;111..they shall not compass his knowledge
they ask you concerning the mountains say'my lord will uproot them[20;105' and scatter them as dust[106] he will leave them as plainssmooth and level
[forgive me teacher ] but the expanding earth [theory contradicts the plate theory
31;10,....''he set on the earth mountains standing firm''[not moving about on any plate?]
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
39;28,it is a quranwithout any crookedness therein, in order that it may guard against deciet
29 god puts forth a patrrable ,a man belonging to many partners ..[is not the book selfsuficient ; what the 'need' for 'science'
theory?]..at vairiance with each other , and a man belonging entoirely to one master; are those two equal in comparison?praise be to god. but most of them have no knowledge.
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
re 27;88 need it not be read according to 27;87? then 88..such is the artistry of god, who disposes of all things in such perfect order
91, 92,93?
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
interesting,27,88 talks about the movement of the mountains,and 93 says Allah will show us His signs
it is one of them,maybe.
HighFlyingDutchman 4 years ago
yes my teacher but before it is 27;87''and the day of the trumpet will be sounded , then will be smitten with terror..except such as god will please to exzempt, and all who come to his presence [as beings concious of our lowlyness[and his mercy]
93 and say praise be god ,who will soon show us his signs , so we may know them[and our god is not unmindfull of all we do
[non may know but him; we have freewill to say
science is right or the messengers quran[peace upon him]
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
both is right
but not the dogmatic-liars
i mean the evillonytuners
peace
HighFlyingDutchman 4 years ago
really most of them dunno anything,instead of evillonytune scenarios :P
HighFlyingDutchman 4 years ago
i was fortunate to talk to the man who claimed he invented the plate theory, he revealed much that contradicted the theory , but he was old and wiser i couldnt doudt him, nor point out where they contradicted
[why the plates ;rubbing away still fit perfectly?][how one plate 100 miles thick can slip beneaths another 100 mile thick plate [200 miles?of face plate contact [times lenghth]spreads preasure to very little]
certainly not enought to push unseen/unfelt a plate down 100 MILES
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
no bro,20,105 talks about the last day of universe
and 31,10 doesn't say that mountains never move,it states that,they let us live without any "shakings" on the earth.
also already in other verse,Quran says,mountains also move.
my teacher ;)
HighFlyingDutchman 4 years ago
re 29;105 [reads with 20;102,''the day of the trumpet'']
re 27;88[reads with 27;87 ,''and the day of the trumpet..'']
re 31;10[reads with 31;7[about a time ]''when our signs are rehersed[8] for those who believe..a gardins of bliss[9]to dwell therin.the promis of god ...10 he created the heavens..mountains standing firm..beasts of all kinds][11]such is the creation of god..
my teacher;}
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
sorry my error
29;105 should read 20;105
noting 29 has no 105
29;10 reads then there are some men such as say''we believe in god'', but when they suffer affliction in the cause of god]..[trumpet day?]..they treat mens afflictions as if they were the wrath [of god]
and if help come , they are sure to say ''we have allways beenwith god , does god not know best..
or
15but we saved him..and made the ark a sign for all peoples
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
for the signs of the ark
perishednations dot com
salaam
HighFlyingDutchman 4 years ago
is it an error?
HighFlyingDutchman 4 years ago
who can say error [scientific deciet]
another flawed evolution to explain by science how the earth evolves?
like animals ''evolved'
an evolving theory?
who knows [only god]
or perhaps?
[miss print in the quran
[yeah right] missunderstanding by me [accepted]
only god is perfect
1oneundergod1 4 years ago