I just imagine all of the non-experts in this comments section frantically racing to Google every time some other non-expert counters what they said. Rock on, guys, you're all awesome.
Thanks for posting video! Now I want to see the whole thing! Interesting period in Polish history. I read that the Polish would cut open the guts of the Swedes alive and dead after the war was over as the troops fled looking for gold coins, and some did find gold this way!
Anyone notice that the sword the young guy holds up before the fight, 1:56, is not the same one he uses in the fight? (Hint: the sword he holds up has no hand guard.) Some props guy messed up.
@stimsWonderland With respect Mr. they're actors firstly, secondly this movie was recorded in 1974 when technology wasn't so good to put breathtaking special effects or replace them by profesional swordmans. Moreover, these guys we're fighting without any protection, imagine hit with dull saber in your leg f.e. They're heavier than Katanas thus more dangerous, even dull.
@bialywilk Ok cool. Thank you for the explanation. If the blade is heavier then it probably takes skill. I thought the swords these people carried were really light. A samurai sword is ideally fought with two hands and I thought would be heavier.
@bialywilk have you e er held a katana?? iv held a sabre and a katana and the katana outweighs the sabre by a long shot. and iv seen movies filmed in the 50s with samurais and fencers and the samurai fights were deffinetly the more intereseting fight even tho they wer actors yes but still they did a whole lot better then this 70s lame fight
@bialywilk they are not actually heaver. but yes it dose hurt. i fencing heavy cavalry saber. its very quick and unforgiving, by the way do you know who did this fight choreography it is marvelous
my mustache is better then ur mustache.....oh really young fellow....yes old chap i have the freddie mercury u have the old handle bars....oh really young fellow well i challenge u to a duel!!! ahhh yes old chap a duel of swords a duel to the death. yes young fellow a duel in which only the victory will live, ahh yes old chap a duel in which i will kill u until u are dead from it....now have at thee.....
@yadsik Those aren't rapiers- the blade is too wide, and the curve too extreme. And you wouldn't fight with a rapier like that anyway. Rapiers are thrusting tools, not slashing.
It's cool how the death blow is a simple slash to the head unlike the over dramatic stabbings or beheadings you see in American films. One quick jab is all it takes
@JacksMagicBean They can, have seen it :-) historical fencing is pretty awesome. Takes a lot of practice though. If you wanna know some basics about the Sabre, google "Alfred Hutton Cold Steel", a fencing book by A. Hutton, a British officer from the 19th century. His system is pretty straightforward.
Entertaining to watch, but I didn't really get the finishing move. It looks like he's only lightly and swiftly snapping the other mans forehead with the sword. This shouldn't really cut through the skull?
@Beneficiis Okay, so I guess that his move didn't really cut thorugh his skull then. It only cut through the skin, thus making it bleed a bit, but not fatally wound him.
Unfortunately too many people learn history from movies. Katana is no better than any other weapon; it is circumstances that matter. Saber is essentially a cavalry weapon, for that Katana would be bad, and Polish were primary Cavalry. Katana also is not a good weapon in tight corners, nor against armor. There is a very good reason why Katana as we know it didn't come into existence till Tokugawa Shogunat (17th century). Prior to that sword was different, and it was a bow (Yumi)that ruled.
@chrobry An army which compirse with archers before Tokugawa Shogonate is dangerous indeed, but the army was still mainly comprise of spearmen who have a katana as their secondary weapon.
Actually the weapon was called a Tachi, and wasn't quite what we think of as Katana. That came into effect later after the Tokugawa reforms where Samurai became a bureaucrat, was unarmored and the weapon was primarly a dueling and not weapon of war.
Keep in mind that prior to Tokugawa (who btw won due to Muskets) it was Yumi that was soul of a Samurai, with Nakinata being secondary.
That's true, for a while Katana and Tachi were used at same point in history. However it was not a primarly weapon, and it was not a weapon of war. After Tokugawa it became de facto weapon of all Samurai. Something that was prescribed how to wear, what it represented, etc.. Finally it became the honor/soul of a Samurai than too.
That's why I don't regard prior usage of Katana as important.
Put it this way, it is kinda like guns/cannons. They were used well prior to the 14th Century. However they weren't important, and were just novelty (obviously talking about West here). Therefore when we are talking about firearms we start with Hundred Year War.
@chrobry But you must admit that a lot more time and care went into making a Katana. Getting every little impurity out of the blade. But I'm afraid I must argue you point of "nor against armor." If my memory serves me correctly the Katana was rather good at taking down a unit with good armor on. But also on your point of the Katana wasn't good in tight corners. You may want to add that the Samurai carried a sword called the Tan-to, I think that's the blade, for tight corners.
Ohh boy you opened up a complicated answer, for which there hardly is room to answer. I try though.
The period armor equivalent of Katana was called: do-maru which was leather unlike prior Muromachi armor which was metal. Again Do-maru Katana was successful, although it was highly effective in stopping it. Against what we now call Chain mail, or later Gothic plate, or Muromachi Katana would likely get you killed quickly.
Samurai wore Wakizashi (Short sword) or Tanto (Dagger) to be sure. However we were talking about Katana here :)
As to forging. It is common believe that Katana was superbly crafted weapon, while Long sword was little more than a sharp pig iron. Nothing could be further from the truth. Japan is a resource poor nation, and its iron requires lots of forging to remove impurities, Europe is great amount of good quality iron.
Pattern welded Sword (to pick on example) was most certainly equivalent to Katana.
Overall quality of production of Long Sword and Katana are about equivalent. Keep in mind that European Sword Maker weren't glorified Black Smiths who stopped making Horse Shoes just long enough to shape sword, and go back to Horse Shoes. They were very highly skilled crafters working in very highly quality material.
Argh, this is like trying to write a book on a napkin.
Basically my point is that Katana isn't magic, it is an excellent cutter probably best example of such, although even there Falchion, Scimitar, or Hungarian sword (name escapes me for a moment) would certainly give it run for its money.
Szabla (saber from above movie) was superior on horse, but in melee I would take Katana. But it would be warrior that would determine victory NOT type of a sword.
@chrobry I've clearly been bested in research here. But this has definitely been an enlightening experience when it comes to weapons of old. I agree with you that it all matters on the warrior not the weapon. That one X factor that can't be calculated (unless you play Dawn of War ^_^). But the weapon does matter somewhat. Because fighting also takes supplies and equipment. You could have the most spirited warrior armed with a rock but if the other warrior has a any one of those swords
Sure weapon matters, without a doubt. However weapons were adopted to function, style, culture etc.. They evolved as needed, and as technology advanced, and sometimes for pure fashion (such as Small Sword). Katana is certainly a great weapon for its circumstances, but it isn't superior necessarily to others which were used for different needs. And I for one would take .45 over Katana anyway ;)
I just think it is sad that so many people believe in movies as a source of history. Samurai couldn't cut a steel in half, nor kill 20 man with one swing. Chinese people can't fly, and Knights were not just tin cans , and for that matter Spartans didn't fight naked.
True that, Zulu would be laughed at in Europe (especially in winter); while Knight in full plate would sure as heck make a good BBQ in Africa. Zulu wouldn't need to fight them just get some BBQ sauce ready and wait few minutes.
@GothRevolutionary Katana wasn't any better than longsword against armor. You'll see that many times a katana would cause a non-fatal wound and then samurai would jump on dude with tanto stabbing openings in opponent's armor, if he wanted to kill him (same was the practice in Europe - swords, regardless of thier quality or shape are just not practical against heavy armor) - and katanas had bad habit of breaking to bits in actual combat ( hence swords were carried in pairs )
Pretty good duel. Wesley vs Inigo is good too, if not a bit theatrical. Japanese period sword fights are best IMO. Sometimes you have to pause and rewind just to see what happened because sometimes it goes really quick.
@NetVoyagerOne the younger one and taler is Kmicic, older and shorter is Wołodyjowski.They are fighting because Kmicic tried to kidnapp a girl, but he failed to escape with her so he baricaded with Kosac fellows in her ?mansion?/house. That baricade was including explosives, and Kmicic said he would blow all in the air if they don't stop sieging the mansion, so they agreed to duel, if Kmicic wins=Kmicic and Kosacs can leave, if Wołodyjowski wins=all will be judged. Wołodyjowski won that duel
I knew this was to be an excellent fight when the older fellow started switching sword hands so fast I almost missed it. I really liked 2:45, when the young, strapping fellow suddenly realizes his opponent is a hell of a lot more skilled, and more dangerous, than he thought. Despite not being able to speak polish, I thoroughly enjoyed this scene, and will try and find the movie. Cheers!
@NautilusPuppets Right before the the younger fellow loses his sword the older fellow tells him to pick up the sword a few moments before the younger fellow loeses his sword.
@MisterAbs003 Those were rapiers, not sabres. Though they were rather creative with their usage, it wasn't very accurate. But I agree, it's a great scene if one were to consider all film sword fights.
NICE! I think this is the best I've seen too. Like the way he finishes with that backhand shot to the top of the head. very realistic very interesting especially the finish
Thanks. I really enjoyed that. This was probably one of the better fencing scenes I've seen outside of Hong Kong martial art movies. Reminds of those swashbuckler movies from the silent era.
Za Kmicica, Wołodyjowskiego, Zabłowę i innych wielkich patriotów. Nie ważne, czy prawdziwi, czy nie. Właśnie z takich te postacie powstały np. Kmicic. Był Polski żołnierz w tych czasach o takim nazwisku. Liczy się symbol i wartości moralne!
@szopen76 no my friend they dont even do anything worth while during this fight. a real fight they would have been trying to kill each other not just in and out and waiting and looking for minutes on end. like i said iv seen more intereseting fights in my kitchen
@szopen76 whatever the 'nationality' of the steel, striking edges to edges is retarded, it is applying a tremendous force on a tiny surface, and resisting it without denting or chipping is beyond the tensile strength and tenacity of any steel, be it modern or ancient, whatever is the process used to turn it into a blade
Parying edge on flat is easier, and is in all the original textbooks, european medieval ones, japanese technique and 19th century military saber manuals!
Except that this is how they fought. According to Zablocki, during the duels they usually were parrying (sorry, I don't know english word for "zastawa") a lot.
@siouxsettewerks Action in film take place in XVII century. They duel not on swords or rapiers, but on polish sabre which is called "szabla". Check out /watch?v=n6IcZnx1flI
@siouxsettewerks Actually, you'll find that there's another defensive technique that does use edge-to-edge contact -- displacement. Many medieval European manuals specifically instruct students to displace an adversary's blow with the edge so they can use an offensive and defensive technique at the same time. This is what the Germans called "single-time combat" and is the basis for their Master Strikes. The blow is taken on the strong, which isn't used for cutting anyway.
@szopen76 In fact, most of the times, you have to go out of your way to parry with the edge, more movements, less efficiency! (you end up dead this way)
Movies portray swordfights stupidly since their inception!
Why destroy your weapon, and waste your efforts when you can deflect the blow while landing one on your adversary?
@DaftSebPunk the fight was about hurting the other, not killing. Thats why they get mad. The movements are pretty cool, since they may seem realistic, as at once this is more of a showoff duel. The death scen looks fine too. I think its a good scene...
Brilliantly choreographed duel between two expert sabre fencers. However, there's a major continuity blooper in there. When Kmicic (Daniel Olbrychski) comes out of the house he's wearing a sabre with a knuckle-bow, but when he's preparing for the duel his henchman hands him one with a crossguard and no knuckle-bow. However, when Wolodjowski (TadeuszLomnicki) disams him, the sword that sticks in the mud has magically acquired a knuckle-bow!
@ParacleteOfCaborca It does have a bow guard the whole time if you look carefully, just hard to see it from that angle when it is handed to him, but it is there and when he turns around you see it also.
Eeee, żaden blooper. Owszem, wychodząc z dworu Kmicic ma przy boku szablę z zamkniętą rękojeścią. Potem próbuje zamachu taką pre-karabelą, którą podaje mu Soroka. A do pojedynku staje i od samego początku walczy tą samą dobrą bojową szablą z zamkniętą rękojeścią (wystarczy przyjrzeć się pierwszemu złożeniu). Po prostu karabelą tylko machnął na próbę, a potem jak kamera przeskoczyła na Wołodyjowskiego to ją oddał Soroce i walczył swoją szablą :)
You recognize a good fencer by the footwork. Those two are horrible, especially the white, tall one. True fencer is like a cat, light on foot, economic with force. Bad technique, only banging the blades to make noise. No real lunges. They repeat stuff over and over to ensure we notice.
I just imagine all of the non-experts in this comments section frantically racing to Google every time some other non-expert counters what they said. Rock on, guys, you're all awesome.
7armedman 1 hour ago
sometimes i wish movies would use actual fencing, thumbs up if you think that would be more exiting and interesting :)
andros135 1 day ago
This doesn't look realistic.... But a nice performance none the less... Except for the guy who died.
FaceSilence 1 day ago
his sabre magically changes from one without guards to one which has.
juliuscrister 2 days ago
Polskie filmy są najlepsze ;)
darkgitarist666 3 days ago
Thanks for posting video! Now I want to see the whole thing! Interesting period in Polish history. I read that the Polish would cut open the guts of the Swedes alive and dead after the war was over as the troops fled looking for gold coins, and some did find gold this way!
CorvairScott 3 days ago
That officer did a forward crossover twice, and no one called him on it. Yellow card, red car.
WestWorldRobot 3 days ago
2:26
TROLOLOLOL
RELLlK 3 days ago
In this movie all sabres was real 17th century sharp edge.
zbijacz07muly 3 days ago
no offense.......but I don´t get what the fuck are they saying.......translation needed......
lonetiger74 1 week ago
@lonetiger74 "Men, it's pissing from the skies today. But celebrations for the silly hat clubs will contin..."
"All right, jokes over. Who stole my pound cake?"
Hat guy: "I ate it, it was delicious. Also you dance like a gay person."
Gay guy: "What? You dare insult my manhood? Do these tights not show of balls? I challenge you do a duel till death!"
Old guy kills gay guy: "I lied, the cake was horrible."
Mad guy: "Ohno, explosive diarrhoea!"
Old guy: "Gtg,lol"
DaveDinnerDude 6 days ago 4
@DaveDinnerDude AHAHahahahhahahhahahahaha.......great translation pal.......everything´s clear to me now......
lonetiger74 6 days ago
@DaveDinnerDude that was amazing
TheJoeGrosso 4 days ago
2:18 going for backstab
SoerenLorenson 1 week ago
"...Kończ waść..." epickie po wsze czasy !
BeatlesToJestCos 1 week ago in playlist Liked videos
What is Freddy Mercury doing fighting an old saber wielding man?
mikizz0 1 week ago
Dr.Cox?
Vidyadude 1 week ago
Is that young dude died ? DId he got hit by the sharp or the blunt side of sabre ?
MariusThePaladin 1 week ago
@MariusThePaladin He didn't die, just got injured, later recovered and literally ran the show to the very end.
Polishman1 1 week ago
1:18 "Yoda"
MariusThePaladin 1 week ago
@MariusThePaladin "zgoda" - so be it
maslany69 1 week ago
@maslany69 Nope "Yoda" - That my sabre skill is as good as Yoda, you will know.
MariusThePaladin 1 week ago
@MariusThePaladin oh I get it. I just translated word from 1:18 "zgoda" means "so be it". I thought you did not understand it corectly :)
maslany69 1 week ago
@MariusThePaladin and unfortunately he wasn't as good as Yoda :)
maslany69 1 week ago
@maslany69 lol
MariusThePaladin 1 week ago
4:28,
There is a bug on y'a head, let me take it off
MRVotreEnfant 2 weeks ago
1 word: Scaramouche
Kuupoju 2 weeks ago
I have to ask what were they saying?
crypter27 2 weeks ago
Looks a bit like freddie mercury with blond hair...he got owned
xPTRIXx 2 weeks ago
puny little man with puny little hands holding little tiny puny swords~
goku9717 2 weeks ago
From his demeanour in this fight alone,you take an instant dislike to the younger man and are impressed by the older.Very good actors.
jonnyy40 2 weeks ago
serious choreography, done on a wet muddy surface. Impressive!
boddumblues 2 weeks ago
Inconceivable!
BozzieM 2 weeks ago
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Anyone notice that the sword the young guy holds up before the fight, 1:56, is not the same one he uses in the fight? (Hint: the sword he holds up has no hand guard.) Some props guy messed up.
WorkingLeo 3 weeks ago
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WorkingLeo 3 weeks ago
A very bad die :'(
oxigenio06 3 weeks ago
@oxigenio06
He didn't die.
bzyk36 2 weeks ago
what a faggot
trickster672 3 weeks ago
@trickster672 don't know who or what your talking about, but it made me spit coca cola all over my screen.
IronwillsStrength 3 weeks ago
Hey! I didn't know Freddy Murcury had a brother!
bushin64 3 weeks ago
two words: Rob Roy
b0bthekillar 3 weeks ago
At 4:22 man in white shirt says "End it sir, spare disgrace"
Garganfunker 3 weeks ago
a samurai's blade would parry once and deal the death blow to these posers
stimsWonderland 3 weeks ago
@stimsWonderland With respect Mr. they're actors firstly, secondly this movie was recorded in 1974 when technology wasn't so good to put breathtaking special effects or replace them by profesional swordmans. Moreover, these guys we're fighting without any protection, imagine hit with dull saber in your leg f.e. They're heavier than Katanas thus more dangerous, even dull.
bialywilk 3 weeks ago 9
@bialywilk Ok cool. Thank you for the explanation. If the blade is heavier then it probably takes skill. I thought the swords these people carried were really light. A samurai sword is ideally fought with two hands and I thought would be heavier.
stimsWonderland 3 weeks ago
@bialywilk have you e er held a katana?? iv held a sabre and a katana and the katana outweighs the sabre by a long shot. and iv seen movies filmed in the 50s with samurais and fencers and the samurai fights were deffinetly the more intereseting fight even tho they wer actors yes but still they did a whole lot better then this 70s lame fight
xOppositeEffect 3 weeks ago
@bialywilk they are not actually heaver. but yes it dose hurt. i fencing heavy cavalry saber. its very quick and unforgiving, by the way do you know who did this fight choreography it is marvelous
Dragoninck 1 week ago
my mustache is better then ur mustache.....oh really young fellow....yes old chap i have the freddie mercury u have the old handle bars....oh really young fellow well i challenge u to a duel!!! ahhh yes old chap a duel of swords a duel to the death. yes young fellow a duel in which only the victory will live, ahh yes old chap a duel in which i will kill u until u are dead from it....now have at thee.....
thefatman69dude 3 weeks ago
reminds me of zorro's anthony hopkins and the other reminds me of freddie mercury.
addik06 3 weeks ago
Of course the one in the white shirt lost, he was wasting too much energy in overly flashy moves...
GhostBear3067 4 weeks ago 2
@yadsik Those aren't rapiers- the blade is too wide, and the curve too extreme. And you wouldn't fight with a rapier like that anyway. Rapiers are thrusting tools, not slashing.
TheArcadianKing 4 weeks ago
It's cool how the death blow is a simple slash to the head unlike the over dramatic stabbings or beheadings you see in American films. One quick jab is all it takes
hotsauce3888 4 weeks ago
If only people could really fight like that.....
JacksMagicBean 4 weeks ago
@JacksMagicBean They can, have seen it :-) historical fencing is pretty awesome. Takes a lot of practice though. If you wanna know some basics about the Sabre, google "Alfred Hutton Cold Steel", a fencing book by A. Hutton, a British officer from the 19th century. His system is pretty straightforward.
Schmidt54 4 weeks ago
whos the bad guy?...
WoWGabe85 1 month ago
@WoWGabe85 Both are good guys :D
PLKinka 1 month ago
@WoWGabe85
in film- Andrzej Kmicic, in real life- Daniel Olbrychski
Fokosmok 4 weeks ago
too much blade contact and too many wasted opportunities...
EmilReiko 1 month ago
SALIO LA SALSA VALENTINA...
yonpolite 1 month ago
Entertaining to watch, but I didn't really get the finishing move. It looks like he's only lightly and swiftly snapping the other mans forehead with the sword. This shouldn't really cut through the skull?
Dannepihls 1 month ago
@Dannepihls He didn't want to kill him...
Beneficiis 1 month ago
@Beneficiis Okay, so I guess that his move didn't really cut thorugh his skull then. It only cut through the skin, thus making it bleed a bit, but not fatally wound him.
Dannepihls 1 month ago
Unfortunately too many people learn history from movies. Katana is no better than any other weapon; it is circumstances that matter. Saber is essentially a cavalry weapon, for that Katana would be bad, and Polish were primary Cavalry. Katana also is not a good weapon in tight corners, nor against armor. There is a very good reason why Katana as we know it didn't come into existence till Tokugawa Shogunat (17th century). Prior to that sword was different, and it was a bow (Yumi)that ruled.
chrobry 1 month ago 16
@chrobry An army which compirse with archers before Tokugawa Shogonate is dangerous indeed, but the army was still mainly comprise of spearmen who have a katana as their secondary weapon.
MariusThePaladin 1 week ago
@MariusThePaladin
Actually the weapon was called a Tachi, and wasn't quite what we think of as Katana. That came into effect later after the Tokugawa reforms where Samurai became a bureaucrat, was unarmored and the weapon was primarly a dueling and not weapon of war.
Keep in mind that prior to Tokugawa (who btw won due to Muskets) it was Yumi that was soul of a Samurai, with Nakinata being secondary.
Like I said weapon is based on function.
chrobry 1 week ago
@chrobry You know your history well. I couldn't phrase it any other way.
Waxer3929 1 week ago
@chrobry you are right, the samoerai are being exagherated. but the katana where used in the 15th century
brammatie2 1 week ago
@brammatie2 Learn english.
Pawnbroker00 1 week ago
@Pawnbroker00 Learn *English. I admit I was typing a little bit fast but why do you have to state that? don't be a dick next time please....
brammatie2 1 week ago
@brammatie2
That's true, for a while Katana and Tachi were used at same point in history. However it was not a primarly weapon, and it was not a weapon of war. After Tokugawa it became de facto weapon of all Samurai. Something that was prescribed how to wear, what it represented, etc.. Finally it became the honor/soul of a Samurai than too.
That's why I don't regard prior usage of Katana as important.
chrobry 1 week ago
@brammatie2
Put it this way, it is kinda like guns/cannons. They were used well prior to the 14th Century. However they weren't important, and were just novelty (obviously talking about West here). Therefore when we are talking about firearms we start with Hundred Year War.
chrobry 1 week ago
@chrobry Interesting.
brammatie2 1 week ago
@chrobry But you must admit that a lot more time and care went into making a Katana. Getting every little impurity out of the blade. But I'm afraid I must argue you point of "nor against armor." If my memory serves me correctly the Katana was rather good at taking down a unit with good armor on. But also on your point of the Katana wasn't good in tight corners. You may want to add that the Samurai carried a sword called the Tan-to, I think that's the blade, for tight corners.
GothRevolutionary 1 week ago
@GothRevolutionary
Ohh boy you opened up a complicated answer, for which there hardly is room to answer. I try though.
The period armor equivalent of Katana was called: do-maru which was leather unlike prior Muromachi armor which was metal. Again Do-maru Katana was successful, although it was highly effective in stopping it. Against what we now call Chain mail, or later Gothic plate, or Muromachi Katana would likely get you killed quickly.
chrobry 1 week ago
@GothRevolutionary
(Darn tight reply space).
Samurai wore Wakizashi (Short sword) or Tanto (Dagger) to be sure. However we were talking about Katana here :)
As to forging. It is common believe that Katana was superbly crafted weapon, while Long sword was little more than a sharp pig iron. Nothing could be further from the truth. Japan is a resource poor nation, and its iron requires lots of forging to remove impurities, Europe is great amount of good quality iron.
chrobry 1 week ago
@GothRevolutionary
Pattern welded Sword (to pick on example) was most certainly equivalent to Katana.
Overall quality of production of Long Sword and Katana are about equivalent. Keep in mind that European Sword Maker weren't glorified Black Smiths who stopped making Horse Shoes just long enough to shape sword, and go back to Horse Shoes. They were very highly skilled crafters working in very highly quality material.
chrobry 1 week ago
@GothRevolutionary
Argh, this is like trying to write a book on a napkin.
Basically my point is that Katana isn't magic, it is an excellent cutter probably best example of such, although even there Falchion, Scimitar, or Hungarian sword (name escapes me for a moment) would certainly give it run for its money.
Szabla (saber from above movie) was superior on horse, but in melee I would take Katana. But it would be warrior that would determine victory NOT type of a sword.
chrobry 1 week ago 2
@chrobry I've clearly been bested in research here. But this has definitely been an enlightening experience when it comes to weapons of old. I agree with you that it all matters on the warrior not the weapon. That one X factor that can't be calculated (unless you play Dawn of War ^_^). But the weapon does matter somewhat. Because fighting also takes supplies and equipment. You could have the most spirited warrior armed with a rock but if the other warrior has a any one of those swords
GothRevolutionary 1 week ago
@GothRevolutionary
Why thank you :) History is my passion.
Sure weapon matters, without a doubt. However weapons were adopted to function, style, culture etc.. They evolved as needed, and as technology advanced, and sometimes for pure fashion (such as Small Sword). Katana is certainly a great weapon for its circumstances, but it isn't superior necessarily to others which were used for different needs. And I for one would take .45 over Katana anyway ;)
chrobry 1 week ago
@GothRevolutionary
I just think it is sad that so many people believe in movies as a source of history. Samurai couldn't cut a steel in half, nor kill 20 man with one swing. Chinese people can't fly, and Knights were not just tin cans , and for that matter Spartans didn't fight naked.
Heh don't take me wrong movies are fun though ;)
chrobry 1 week ago 2
@chrobry they will more than likely win. But then again would be a matter of terrain as well. There are so many factors to battles lol.
GothRevolutionary 1 week ago
@GothRevolutionary
True that, Zulu would be laughed at in Europe (especially in winter); while Knight in full plate would sure as heck make a good BBQ in Africa. Zulu wouldn't need to fight them just get some BBQ sauce ready and wait few minutes.
chrobry 1 week ago
@GothRevolutionary Katana wasn't any better than longsword against armor. You'll see that many times a katana would cause a non-fatal wound and then samurai would jump on dude with tanto stabbing openings in opponent's armor, if he wanted to kill him (same was the practice in Europe - swords, regardless of thier quality or shape are just not practical against heavy armor) - and katanas had bad habit of breaking to bits in actual combat ( hence swords were carried in pairs )
Beneficiis 2 days ago
Wow... the guys look like they're thinking things through, they miss some swings, and there's a lot of waiting and anticipation.
Closest thing to a realistic swordfight I've ever seen in a movie. Nice work.
MrThePandaman 1 month ago
So good actors. Thanks
luaconspiracao 1 month ago
KATANA RULE!!
justplainly 1 month ago
that dude looks like a blonde freddy mercury
maheez 1 month ago
a little dramatic but cmon thats the spirit of cinema, the best duel I never seen in all my life
Adanmska1234 1 month ago
Pretty good duel. Wesley vs Inigo is good too, if not a bit theatrical. Japanese period sword fights are best IMO. Sometimes you have to pause and rewind just to see what happened because sometimes it goes really quick.
oceanhell2 1 month ago
If that was real the fight would have lasted a whole 5 sec.
Growapair4once 1 month ago
@Growapair4once well Wołodyjowski was only toying/playing with Kmicic, so yep that's true
krk654 1 month ago
What are the circumstances of the duel? Can anybody tell us?
NetVoyagerOne 1 month ago
@NetVoyagerOne the younger one and taler is Kmicic, older and shorter is Wołodyjowski.They are fighting because Kmicic tried to kidnapp a girl, but he failed to escape with her so he baricaded with Kosac fellows in her ?mansion?/house. That baricade was including explosives, and Kmicic said he would blow all in the air if they don't stop sieging the mansion, so they agreed to duel, if Kmicic wins=Kmicic and Kosacs can leave, if Wołodyjowski wins=all will be judged. Wołodyjowski won that duel
krk654 1 month ago
I guess he should have given up his bar stool.
PippoPopolino 1 month ago
Yeah its one of Polish classics. Its even more impressive that this movie was done during communism with budget of 100$
shuttze 1 month ago 2
2:10 to skip all the talking
trog6050 1 month ago
yeah its a great fight scene,,,love it..
davycrocketful 1 month ago
Lol he does look like cox
boogiedownluva86 1 month ago
Anyone else think the young guy looks a lot like Dr.Cox off of scrubs?
MDHardman 1 month ago 2
I knew this was to be an excellent fight when the older fellow started switching sword hands so fast I almost missed it. I really liked 2:45, when the young, strapping fellow suddenly realizes his opponent is a hell of a lot more skilled, and more dangerous, than he thought. Despite not being able to speak polish, I thoroughly enjoyed this scene, and will try and find the movie. Cheers!
NautilusPuppets 1 month ago 19
@NautilusPuppets Right before the the younger fellow loses his sword the older fellow tells him to pick up the sword a few moments before the younger fellow loeses his sword.
N4tti1ntampa 1 month ago
To be honest this is the only sabre fight in a movie I know about! they usually don't duel with sabres
Alchemist1330 1 month ago
3 words: The Princess Bride
MisterAbs003 1 month ago 23
@MisterAbs003 there is not a single sabre in that movie but i agree best rapier fighting.
Alchemist1330 1 month ago
@Alchemist1330 touche, but I think it has the best sword fighting, period.
MisterAbs003 1 month ago
@MisterAbs003 Agreed
Alchemist1330 1 month ago
@MisterAbs003
That's five words. :P
Inconceivable, I know.
manictiger 1 month ago
@manictiger It was 3 words from the colon mark. and that was what I meant.
MisterAbs003 1 month ago
@MisterAbs003
I was just being a dick for the sake of it.
manictiger 1 month ago
@MisterAbs003 exlain please
TheTheoldgit 1 month ago
@MisterAbs003 In "The Princess Bride" they playing with sword, no with sabre.
gastonmodot 1 month ago
@MisterAbs003 Those were rapiers, not sabres. Though they were rather creative with their usage, it wasn't very accurate. But I agree, it's a great scene if one were to consider all film sword fights.
yadsik 4 weeks ago
@MisterAbs003 SO TRUE!
MrMichael396 3 weeks ago
@MisterAbs003 not sabers though
Blackfate416 2 weeks ago
NICE! I think this is the best I've seen too. Like the way he finishes with that backhand shot to the top of the head. very realistic very interesting especially the finish
pokerisometrics 1 month ago
Thanks. I really enjoyed that. This was probably one of the better fencing scenes I've seen outside of Hong Kong martial art movies. Reminds of those swashbuckler movies from the silent era.
MADMANCA 1 month ago
Za Kmicica, Wołodyjowskiego, Zabłowę i innych wielkich patriotów. Nie ważne, czy prawdziwi, czy nie. Właśnie z takich te postacie powstały np. Kmicic. Był Polski żołnierz w tych czasach o takim nazwisku. Liczy się symbol i wartości moralne!
niezlomny11 1 month ago
"Finish me, save me the disgrace" The best quote from the movie :)
szopen76 1 month ago
what a boring duel. looks like their dancing the whole time and the dance isnt even that good. iv seen better fights in my kitchen with steak knives
xOppositeEffect 1 month ago
@xOppositeEffect
It's because this is the more real lfight, instead of some Hollywood junks. During fencing you do not kick or whatever.
szopen76 1 month ago
@szopen76 no my friend they dont even do anything worth while during this fight. a real fight they would have been trying to kill each other not just in and out and waiting and looking for minutes on end. like i said iv seen more intereseting fights in my kitchen
xOppositeEffect 3 weeks ago
@xOppositeEffect Sorry, but the real fight is either 1) extremely short 2) extremely long, when two masters are fighting each other.
szopen76 3 weeks ago
@szopen76
But here, Wolodyjowski (the smaller) gives a lesson Kmicic, who considers himself a better one.
DaX813 2 weeks ago
This is retarded, to say the least. I think that was a terrible fight, even worse than Hollywood junk. There.
HydroFilicManiacBear 1 month ago
Where is the part where their blades get all notched to shit from all that edge to edge contact?
No no...in all seriousness that is a good stage fighting duel.
ArranoGris 1 month ago
@ArranoGris why should they? This is not some samurai shit, but Polish sabres, which were made to survive multiple edge to edge contacts.
szopen76 1 month ago
@szopen76 whatever the 'nationality' of the steel, striking edges to edges is retarded, it is applying a tremendous force on a tiny surface, and resisting it without denting or chipping is beyond the tensile strength and tenacity of any steel, be it modern or ancient, whatever is the process used to turn it into a blade
Parying edge on flat is easier, and is in all the original textbooks, european medieval ones, japanese technique and 19th century military saber manuals!
siouxsettewerks 1 month ago
@siouxsettewerks
Except that this is how they fought. According to Zablocki, during the duels they usually were parrying (sorry, I don't know english word for "zastawa") a lot.
szopen76 1 month ago
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@siouxsettewerks Action in film take place in XVII century. They duel not on swords or rapiers, but on polish sabre which is called "szabla". Check out /watch?v=n6IcZnx1flI
silv879 1 month ago
@siouxsettewerks Actually, you'll find that there's another defensive technique that does use edge-to-edge contact -- displacement. Many medieval European manuals specifically instruct students to displace an adversary's blow with the edge so they can use an offensive and defensive technique at the same time. This is what the Germans called "single-time combat" and is the basis for their Master Strikes. The blow is taken on the strong, which isn't used for cutting anyway.
MadassAlex 1 month ago
@szopen76 In fact, most of the times, you have to go out of your way to parry with the edge, more movements, less efficiency! (you end up dead this way)
Movies portray swordfights stupidly since their inception!
Why destroy your weapon, and waste your efforts when you can deflect the blow while landing one on your adversary?
siouxsettewerks 1 month ago
Thats why, after 200 years without a country, we still exist :)
Baronidas145 1 month ago
great swordsmanship... that's why dont ever mess with the polish guys....
volikoto 1 month ago
I never imagine that our polish film "Potop" make so sensation :)
Harry90able 1 month ago
Polish Anthony Hopkins vs. Polish Steve McQueen
Sander1605 1 month ago
hitler?
BurakkuCroWs 1 month ago
I think it was pretty poor. :(
DaftSebPunk 1 month ago
@DaftSebPunk the fight was about hurting the other, not killing. Thats why they get mad. The movements are pretty cool, since they may seem realistic, as at once this is more of a showoff duel. The death scen looks fine too. I think its a good scene...
joanal12 1 month ago
Just looks stupid since they are not trying to hit each other and deflect but they are hitting at the swords
VolvoMetal 1 month ago
to shut up fuk up their talk go to 2:00
and yes that was a good fight
YourDeath311 1 month ago
I don't always fight with a sword but when I do, I do it right
greenstuff22 1 month ago
gay
frem900 1 month ago
his faces, is that Jim Carey?
rafhalimaxd 1 month ago
that looks like Dr Cox
Kano7713 1 month ago
@Kano7713 Hahah Dr Cox vs Charles Bronson:P
Hask79 1 month ago
@Hask79 YES!
Kano7713 1 month ago
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If I didn't know it was Polish, I would have assumed they were speaking Russian.
jackanarchy99 1 month ago
If I didn't know it was Polish, I would have assumed they were speaking Russian.
jackanarchy99 1 month ago
Star wars Episode IV has the best duel ever!!!!
valttu94 1 month ago
Hit 2 a bunch of times and it sounds like uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
Juliusowns 1 month ago
BOOM HEADSHOT!
Tiggerlen 1 month ago
the fuck, I thought the funny guy was gonna win
flyingtoothpaste 1 month ago
@flyingtoothpaste in polish movie, funny guy gets killed
cwmyr 1 month ago 16
Who invited the gay pirate to the sabre fight?
killersushi99 1 month ago
Cytowanie pod filmikami jest beznadziejne ale ten tekst to absolutna potęga "kończ waćpan wstydu oszczędź"
BeatlesToJestCos 1 month ago
Thanks for this, I was unaware of this movie. 3:18, the disarm! Always wondered how to do that.
Smidhja 1 month ago
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Danny011189 1 month ago
Brilliantly choreographed duel between two expert sabre fencers. However, there's a major continuity blooper in there. When Kmicic (Daniel Olbrychski) comes out of the house he's wearing a sabre with a knuckle-bow, but when he's preparing for the duel his henchman hands him one with a crossguard and no knuckle-bow. However, when Wolodjowski (TadeuszLomnicki) disams him, the sword that sticks in the mud has magically acquired a knuckle-bow!
ParacleteOfCaborca 1 month ago
@ParacleteOfCaborca good spot.
JMB177 1 month ago
@ParacleteOfCaborca It does have a bow guard the whole time if you look carefully, just hard to see it from that angle when it is handed to him, but it is there and when he turns around you see it also.
doow90 1 month ago
@ParacleteOfCaborca
Eeee, żaden blooper. Owszem, wychodząc z dworu Kmicic ma przy boku szablę z zamkniętą rękojeścią. Potem próbuje zamachu taką pre-karabelą, którą podaje mu Soroka. A do pojedynku staje i od samego początku walczy tą samą dobrą bojową szablą z zamkniętą rękojeścią (wystarczy przyjrzeć się pierwszemu złożeniu). Po prostu karabelą tylko machnął na próbę, a potem jak kamera przeskoczyła na Wołodyjowskiego to ją oddał Soroce i walczył swoją szablą :)
ostwolff 1 month ago
Best movie??? OMG. It is fencing Hollywood-style.
ThePhale 1 month ago
the tall guy moves like an homo retard
zuulinet 1 month ago
2:02 hahahahahahahahaahahahahaha
odulev 1 month ago
Wow I am really impressed. That was one of the best duel scenes I have seen.
goalie31gb 2 months ago
Wow, looks like Dr. Cox can really handle a sabre along with his rapier wit...
REBELComx08 2 months ago
The "Duellists" Ridley Scott 1977, best sabre fight.
terrortorn 2 months ago 4
@terrortorn Holy cow no doubt! This was freaking sweet! I couldn't understand a word but the drama spoke to me.
InuzukaCds 2 months ago
@InuzukaCds The full "Duellists" film is on Youtube.
terrortorn 2 months ago
You recognize a good fencer by the footwork. Those two are horrible, especially the white, tall one. True fencer is like a cat, light on foot, economic with force. Bad technique, only banging the blades to make noise. No real lunges. They repeat stuff over and over to ensure we notice.
Kamamura2 2 months ago