There are many believers of Chinese Communist Party in the US, especially wealthy children of the riches,have they ever wondered why their parents sent them to other countries, if China is so much better? That's because the people know that education in China is fabricated, barely 1/3 of it is actual knowledge. The party bends Economics, Politics, History, and of course Law into to well shaped lying institutions, why do you think most Chinese students are Business majors?
China is like a big corporation and the richest country in the world. All the citizens are their employees at their disposal. The government own all the lands, people, money,etc. They have power to legally kill people without reason. They are so rich because they don't have to pay their employees/citizens..rather it's the other way around where employees have to pay the corporation. Too bad the citizens don't even know how rich their country is.
I hope my fellow Chinese in the government hear these people. It's about time there's some reform! Our people are suffering and there has to be measures to address this or else it'll mean they will have taken no lesson from history!
this is iron fisted capitalism. under communism the land is owned by everyone. but capitalism, the land is private and sold off. the US has the same policies. the US government has the right to take your land if it deems it can generate economic activities.
In typical cases the local chinese govt would pay the farmers a sum of money, but the reporter did not report on that now did she?
There is NO official land ownership in China. Because it's against the CCP policy. It's bourgeois. Technically, it's up to the CCP to decide whether compensation will be rewarded, if any. Even though, the residents have been living off the land for couple of generation.
The farmers should be lucky gov't agents used metal rods this time.
@wintersnoob they actually can't...but these poor farmers are desperate and so they do...chinese are required to seek permission prior to organizing any type of protest..u best believe that many of these people were beaten up and harassed for embarrassing the local communist leaders(after the al jazeera camera crew left, of course).
same thing was going on in India, till a well-known social activist who has won ten national awards went on a fast to death insisting the government bring in an anti-corruption bill. Thousands came out in the streets all over in all the cities, towns and villages to support in. He is 74 yrs old. 12th day of his fast and fearing countrywide violence if he passed out, the govt relented and promised to pass the bill. We are still waiting for it to be passed ! Land grabbing however is put on hold !
China is a sorry case of Teenage unrequited Love ... China does as Its Heart tells It ... Save the Doves, Stop The Dance, Eat Ben and Jerry`s, Kill the Kindergartner `s ....
"communism" is an again being used as an excuse to seize people's land and privatize them in the hands of a corrupt elite. Don't kid yourself with slogans like "it's all for the public good" or "people's republic," communism (stealth word for totalitarian stalinism) is a joke.
oh shut up you morons. you american think too innocent when you forgot you did the same thing? was it legal when the british or soon to be americans that they can just steal native-americans land and put them in reservations like animals in a zoo? and you call this "inhumane"? you guys disgust me. atleast the chinese govt didnt massacre people.
you shut up Faggot. Native Americans rarely cultivated Land because they were Hunters.Unlike these people in China who earn the money and live off the Farmland.
@NiklasKing87 oh really? hunters you say? they were like every tribe would do. use their OWN land to plant food, build homes. now those aztecs built? and you say they rarely cultivated land. and is it right to just steal someones land? i dont think so. i understand you that you're defending your great ol american democracy loving nation. but accept the facts that your nation has its dark side. and by the way, your "democratic" country has the most criminals in prison in the world.
@13elsyd13 LOL At least the chinese government didn't massacre people! Are you serious or are you really that stupid? I think it is that latter. Um ever heard of Tiannamen Square massacre? The massacre of Tibetians still happening to this day. What about the christians persecuted and thousands killled. What about Falun Gong? You really are a disgrace.
@asasasasdasas you really are a dumbass are you? that comment was about this land grabbing, and you went to tiannamen square? how stupid can you be? yes chinese people killed some but how much did america killed? how much did great old america has been into wars? vietnam war? afghan and iraq war? those are the only few that i can say. you research the rest. how many arabs did americans kill in the middle east? probably will reach upto millions. so stop your dumb comments and wake up....
@13elsyd13 Wow so quick to make a response, let me guess you are one of those communist government propoganda agents to write good things about CCP on the internet huh. even if it does reach to millions it is still far less then how many chinese people the chinese government has killed. remember the great leap forward/cultural revolution. You were the one who accused the US of massacring people. Look at your comment you pathetic piece of shit. You brought it up not me.
@asasasasdasas Of course you are right. Not to mention peaceful falun gong practitioners, and what has happened to them. Or the invasion and occupation of Tibet. The CCP are THE most vicious corrupt and cruel regime of all time, apart from perhaps the soviet union and shifting the blame to what the USA of any other country has done in the way of criminal acts doesn't change the facts.
@asasasasdasas no im not even close to being a chinese. infact i live in america, thats right USA! and i am not wrong. you guys are just soo brainwashed by american propaganda towards communism, might came from the cold war where you guys were soo afraid of the communist russians. but its wrong on how you americans criticize their government and how they handle things. and i dont watch fox news or cnn because all that is propagand bullshit. i watch real news RTamerica and the alexjoneschannel.
@13elsyd13 You cant address my comments in a mature or intelligent way because deep down you know you are wrone so you straight away jump into name calling. I dont care you just embarrassed yourself big time dumb commie loving motherfucker. You want to debate I will debate you and you will loose. write something else so we can see how brainwashed and pathetic you are.
@asasasasdasas and by the looks at your account profile you have a lot of hate towards the chinese people. that video "rude chinese" is just typical in a not civilized country, yet they are still achieving that stage. like my old country philippines, uncivilized and uneducated people tend to be rude. just wait when china reach 10-20 years from now, they will be civilized just as the western world is now.
@13elsyd13 LOL me and a many other people are laughing at your comments and how they are so hypocritical. keep them coming people are sending me emails saying they find your replies to my points interesting. Go on...have some fun...be our little clown....entertain us.
@asasasasdasas totally agree. 13elsyd13 is a brainwashed chinese nationalist...he/she most prolly has a middle class upbringing so their eyes are still blurred to the reality of the monstrous chinese communist govt...someday, when they open their eyes & see what the average chinese joe & what the tibetans& uygurs has to suffer through, that's when they'll come to their senses. i met many chinese middle class and upper middle class.they r living in a fantasy land. very ignorant about the truth
@13elsyd13 excuse me, the cultural revolution caused the death of 30 million people in China...not to mention tore families apart and pitted people against each other..that right there is inhumane and disgusting behavior.
stop pretending like the chinese govt doesn't have any blood on their hands..they do! a million plus tibetans have perished since the chinese invaded Tibet and thousands of Uygurs were wrongfully imprisoned and killed for standing up for their communities and speaking up!
@13elsyd13 excuse me, the cultural revolution caused the death of 30 million people in China...not to mention tore families apart and pitted people against each other..that right there is inhumane and disgusting behavior.
stop pretending like the chinese govt doesn't have any blood on their hands..they do! a million plus tibetans have perished since the chinese invaded Tibet and thousands of Uygurs were wrongfully imprisoned and killed for standing up for their communities and speaking up!
@13elsyd13 my tibetan friend's grandmother's entire family was shot by the invading chinese soldiers. and guess what? they were innocent and far from political. they were a simple nomadic family(with no political ties to lhasa). no one is claiming america to be perfect but atleast today, americans can disagree with the govt publicly & not be put behind bars(in black jails) or killed for their views. no wonder so many chinese STILL choose 2 immigrate to the west.
@heomak dude every empire invades and takes land. why just the chinese? british occupied 1/3 of this world usa,canada and australia are the 3 biggest continents. and did you really think they didnt kill those poor helpless natives armed with bow and arrow while the brits had their guns and cannons? and today america or the former brits is still invading countries. afghanistan and iraq are the few nations who are the victims of american imperialism, you need to wake up not me cuz i know things..
@13elsyd13 the british empire eventually left those colonized countries..but that's not the case with tibet. without inner mongolia, tibet, and east turkestan, china would be a really small country(with less minerals to exploit and get rich off)...that's why that fucked up robotic govt(with no sense or morals WHATSOEVER) continues to colonize tibet & referring to tibet with shitty chinese name like "xinjiang"(my ass). the chinese have their own fuckin ethnic group.why the fuck can't the leave?
@heomak the british "eventually" left? if they did natives from canada, 'USA' and australia could have been happily living in their own backyard but where are they know? secluded and almost extinct because of that colonization and your telling me they "eventually" left? lol. china is just doing what the 19th century world was doing. they need those things and sacrifices has to be made to achieve a better community.
@heomak and the british left "eventually"? if they left how come they are still here? if they left why are the natives of canada,america and australia is still secluded from "white" society and almost extinct. if the brits had left their conquered lands the natives would have been running those countries not whites. china is just basically doing what the british was doing 100 years ago. sacrifices has to be made to achieve success.
@13elsyd13 so u finally admit that the china is indeed illegally occupying tibet, inner mongolia & east turkestan. phew! glad some sense finally got to you. it always make me cringe when i hear people like yourself JUSTIFYING inhumane/illegal acts based on the fact that "oh well...they did it too". but guess what? they did it years ago & are for the most part are embarrassed by the actions of their ancestors. but the chinese govt continues to do silence and kill tibetans to this day! SMH.
@13elsyd13 This is a fact. Any country the british occupied, when they left it had a good government, good economy and good law system. think about it...singapore, hong kong, australia, new zealand, US, canada. and taiwan and south korea because of the US. When they leave the country it is wealthy, safe and lawful that is a fact.
@bioches no sorry chief you need to read up again, English never occupied china geographically impossible and they never wanted to. they only wanted to force them open so they could trade.
@13elsyd13 Thats right so why didn't your first comment address that point instead of a seperate discussion that was going on? You decided to continue the conversation in that direction. You replied to one of my comments. I didn't start talking to you.
@asasasasdasas British never occupied Taiwan. You claim that any country that British occupied and left has good government, economy and legal system. Can you explain Israel? Palestine? Bangladesh? Burma? Bhutan? Congo? Sierra Leone? Somalia? Nigeria? Kenya? They were all occupied by British at some point, British left, and how come to this day they all have an authoritarian/militaristic/totalitarian/theocratic government, an undeveloped economy and an highly instable political situation?
@devilhunterred Look back at the comment i didnt say British I said US in brackets. I was very clear about that. Israel has a good economy and government. What you think they are poor? Have a look at the statistics and pictures. Same with India, a now very fast growing economy and democracy. Did you even look at the history of those countries you mentioned? Bangladesh was a part of pakistan, never under british rule.became the own country in the early 70s.
@devilhunterred You obviously just found a list of places that used to be controlled by british and wrote them in. You dont know your history, they were left with a democratic government but after british left, they ran the country into the ground and have civil wars. Somalia, Kenya, Burma etc. You cant blame the british for them not taking care of their own shit.
@asasasasdasas Completely false. All the states mentioned above are in social chaos and political instability because of the incompetence and the complete lack of local culture and social needs during the British rule in favor of British interests. For example, the animosity between India and Pakistan today stems from British policy of Divide and Conquer and its extremely devastating partition plan based on religious beliefs. Somalia, Kenya, Burma, were all left with no concrete infrastructure.
@devilhunterred Back for more hey. Awesome. Your argument shows you are running on empty and are reaching for shit. You still want to blame the british despite the fact they left what 70 years ago. I mean how long does it take to get your shit together. You must be either very young or a complete idiot. 70 years is a long time so even if what you say is true they must be incredibly stupid right? thats the only way your argument can work. they are not stupid but you and your comments truely are.
@asasasasdasas There is a very good reason why the largest empire in the world was disintegrated and collapsed: Because British occupation and rule was selfish, barbaric, imperialist and unjustifiable. There is no argument against this in the lights of contemporary revisionist and post-colonialism school of political thinking. Woodrow Wilson's Self-Determination has incorporated into the very pillars of the modern civilization: There is no justification to impose rule upon another people.
@devilhunterred so if you believe your "contemporary revisionist and post-colonialism school of political thinking." then what the fuck are you still doing in Tibet? We are not talking about 300 years ago or even 70 but 2011. You cant have it both ways asshole without being a hypocrite. CHECK MATE!
@asasasasdasas Do you not understand what Colonialism is? From wiki: "The colonial period normally refers to a period of history from the late 15th to the 20th century when European nation states established colonies on other continents." Tibet had been tributary state of China since the 7th century, nowhere near the 15th century. And is China an European nation? Nope.
@devilhunterred Ok taking a definition from wikipedia is so pathetic and stupid. You didn't look at the collins dictionary, websters, oxford or even a chinese dictionary...you choose wikipedia. You really are an idiot. Lol you use wikipedia to prove a point? Lol that is really funny, people are laughing at you big time. Even if i entertain your lol wikipedia definition then that means taiwan is a colony yes? Truely a pathetic little man
@asasasasdasas From a historical context, Colonialism (with a capital C) has always been referring to the colonial period normally refers to a period of history from the late 15th to the 20th century when European nation states established colonies on other continents.
Tibet had been tributary state of China since the 7th century, nowhere near the 15th century. And is China an European nation? Nope.
@asasasasdasas Completely false. All the states mentioned above are in social chaos and political instability because of the incompetence and the complete lack of local culture and social needs during the British rule in favor of British interests. For example, the animosity between India and Pakistan today stems from British policy of Divide and Conquer and its extremely devastating partition plan based on religious beliefs. Somalia, Kenya, Burma, were all left with no concrete infrastructure.
@devilhunterred Hey dickhead you just copied your own comment from several days ago lol pathetic, like I Said you cant think for yourself only say shit you have memorized lol
@asasasasdasas I repeated the same text from 2 days ago because apparently you have failed to achieve literal comprehension and a response to the question arose from the aforementioned text. From a historical context, Colonialism (with a capital C) has always been referring to the colonial period normally refers to a period of history from the late 15th to the 20th century when European nation states established colonies on other continents. Try to prove it otherwise.
@devilhunterred Wow you really have no life do you? Pathetic. I humiliated you but you keep coming back for more and are so stupid you need to keep copying your comments. YOU ARE A CUNT (with a Capita C) LOL get yourself a woman or a friend lots of people are laughing at you.
@asasasasdasas well then what happened with Shanghai, South Africa, Mid Africa, Guatemala, El Salvedore, India, and a few others I can't think off the top of my head? They are pretty much in the same situation and they were also colonized. I partially agree with your analogy but its incomplete.
@horndog2006 Also look at the countries that have NEVER had a civil war because they kept the british institutions, Australia, New Zealand, Canada. You didnt think enough before you decided to shit with your mouth. Also the countries you mentioned in africa are...in africa every country in that continent is very poor. Not one country is rich. So what's your point? lol You really are stupid to say they are in the same position as when colonized, that is a really stupid comment.
@heomak and by the way im an american and who is still 17.. hmmm at such an early age my eyes are pretty much VERY open. i watch rtamerica and that channel is for the wise. it shows americas dark side and that made me against this country. being a democratic country? yea right, this country has the most criminals in prison in the world with only 300million people while china got 1billion. geez compare that to a communist country? yep thats a democratic country alright!
@13elsyd13 RTamerica is owned by Putin and his posse....incase u didn't know..america might not be perfect but in terms of how the govt treats its own citizens(america is way ahead of other countries-including china, russia, etc). no wonder thousands of chinese and other nationalities continue to immigrate(illegally or legally) to america and other western countries(known for a better track record for human rights). most rich chinese have dual citizenship for a reason.
@heomak america i agree is a great country but it probably had experienced what the chinese are doing today. you know history is written to the victors right? and what ive experience you get to much discrimination here. and fyi the usa was the pioneer of the slave system is that a human right? i dont think so, and you know why usa is such a great country? because its a civilized country, wait for another 20 years and you'll see china being in that spot.
@13elsyd13 That's funny. The Chinese govt doesn't massacre people? AHAHAHAHA. Sit down and shut up, kid. Leave politics to grown man. Not to mention that the americans did it 300 years ago while the entire world did it aswel. Chine still does it today, so I don't see your fucking point moron.
@wintersnoob i was pointing that "massacre" to this land grabbing. and 300 yers ago wasnt done by the entire world, it was just done by the british,spanish and the french. thats not the WHOLE world you dumbass. and america still continue its imperialistic views today by starting a false "war on terror" on afghan and iraq to steal their resources and make them a puppet state. trust me i probably know lots of stuff for a 17 yr old. you can debate all you want, i got answers for you.
@13elsyd13 45 million deaths from starvation during the 'Great Leap Forward'. Tens of thousands killed and millions of lives ruined during the 'Cultural Revolution'.
@Waystheskyburns and how much did the british invasion of the america, australia and the americans with all their wars, how much did they kill during all those wars?
@ava0000 when people say china is the next superpower, i always disagree cuz to be a superpower, you have to earn some degree of respect & although china is economically doing quite good, morally(e.g. human rights-freedom to express yourself ) it's lagging way behind. india may be a little behind china economically speaking but atleast in india, indians can speak against the govt & ruling party and not be imprisoned or tracked down & bullied. there's freedom of press and speech in india.
that's what you get when you have a communist government(which is technically authoritarian-therefore, what the govt says goes- you can't even fight it unlike in democratic countries where atleast you have some chance). i'm not saying democratic countries are perfect but they are a hell lot better than countries where only one party(e.g. china) exists and where any form of dissent is crushed instantly and ruthlessly. rise up china's farmers! wake up & smell the coffee china's middle class!
@knoose Funny, but most land grabbing in China is done by local government that pass the land to big corporations. Doesn't seem like communism to me - it is in fact quite the opposite. Aside from the notable presence of state-owned companies in China, there's nothing very communist about it nowadays.
@knoose china is not really a communist state.it's basically a authoritarian state( with only 1 party) which follows a capitalist model(in terms of their economy). human rights is poor. at the moment, the middle class and upper class are enjoying and quite content with the way things are(because they haven't suffered the injustices that the poorer/lower class have had to endure)...but one day, when their bubble breaks, they will hopefully come to their senses & overthrow their authoritarian govt
@heomak China is still communist, certainly completely politically and even economically in some ways it is still communist. you can only buy a piece of land or property for 70 years then it goes back to the state.
Corruption starts at the top my boy not at the bottom. It's only how much the government can be implicated in it that they will scapegoat their cronies in the local gov to placate the ppl.
I highly doubt the government will let this go unanswered, they need the peoples support and are afraid of protests, especially during this time of uncertainty. I'm pretty sure that the local authorities will be 'interrogated' (tortured) and the land given back.
CHINA IS BECOMING THE NEXT NAZI.
tscorp1967 3 weeks ago
There are many believers of Chinese Communist Party in the US, especially wealthy children of the riches,have they ever wondered why their parents sent them to other countries, if China is so much better? That's because the people know that education in China is fabricated, barely 1/3 of it is actual knowledge. The party bends Economics, Politics, History, and of course Law into to well shaped lying institutions, why do you think most Chinese students are Business majors?
LelouchL3 1 month ago
Fucking fake document made by anti-China bitches!!!!!
God damn your evils to hell!!!! Stop harm China!!!!
Doraemonchina 2 months ago
protest in china is same like socide.
nimasak 2 months ago
怒啊！！！
wang4312 5 months ago
China is like a big corporation and the richest country in the world. All the citizens are their employees at their disposal. The government own all the lands, people, money,etc. They have power to legally kill people without reason. They are so rich because they don't have to pay their employees/citizens..rather it's the other way around where employees have to pay the corporation. Too bad the citizens don't even know how rich their country is.
ihahahayou 5 months ago
1:01 village idiot
krislyttle 5 months ago
@krislyttle
OMG LOL :"D
asomeman1223 5 months ago
Unfortuanately the land is somewhat still under communism all lands owned by the government.
ihahahayou 5 months ago
I hope my fellow Chinese in the government hear these people. It's about time there's some reform! Our people are suffering and there has to be measures to address this or else it'll mean they will have taken no lesson from history!
overcastingasshole 5 months ago
this is iron fisted capitalism. under communism the land is owned by everyone. but capitalism, the land is private and sold off. the US has the same policies. the US government has the right to take your land if it deems it can generate economic activities.
In typical cases the local chinese govt would pay the farmers a sum of money, but the reporter did not report on that now did she?
mrzack888 5 months ago
This is terrible
majornewb 5 months ago
There is NO official land ownership in China. Because it's against the CCP policy. It's bourgeois. Technically, it's up to the CCP to decide whether compensation will be rewarded, if any. Even though, the residents have been living off the land for couple of generation.
The farmers should be lucky gov't agents used metal rods this time.
dvsxavier 5 months ago
Land for more ghost cities.
TheSupercat2468 5 months ago
I didn't know Chinese could protest.
wintersnoob 5 months ago
@wintersnoob they actually can't...but these poor farmers are desperate and so they do...chinese are required to seek permission prior to organizing any type of protest..u best believe that many of these people were beaten up and harassed for embarrassing the local communist leaders(after the al jazeera camera crew left, of course).
heomak 5 months ago
a communist government sells farmer's land to private lands in 2011
dorkydevil 5 months ago
same thing was going on in India, till a well-known social activist who has won ten national awards went on a fast to death insisting the government bring in an anti-corruption bill. Thousands came out in the streets all over in all the cities, towns and villages to support in. He is 74 yrs old. 12th day of his fast and fearing countrywide violence if he passed out, the govt relented and promised to pass the bill. We are still waiting for it to be passed ! Land grabbing however is put on hold !
angelialvares 5 months ago
China is a sorry case of Teenage unrequited Love ... China does as Its Heart tells It ... Save the Doves, Stop The Dance, Eat Ben and Jerry`s, Kill the Kindergartner `s ....
aloistmartin 5 months ago
Good! They should protest!
arivas713 5 months ago
"communism" is an again being used as an excuse to seize people's land and privatize them in the hands of a corrupt elite. Don't kid yourself with slogans like "it's all for the public good" or "people's republic," communism (stealth word for totalitarian stalinism) is a joke.
lulzcoaster 5 months ago
oh shut up you morons. you american think too innocent when you forgot you did the same thing? was it legal when the british or soon to be americans that they can just steal native-americans land and put them in reservations like animals in a zoo? and you call this "inhumane"? you guys disgust me. atleast the chinese govt didnt massacre people.
13elsyd13 5 months ago
@13elsyd13
you shut up Faggot. Native Americans rarely cultivated Land because they were Hunters.Unlike these people in China who earn the money and live off the Farmland.
NiklasKing87 5 months ago
@NiklasKing87 oh really? hunters you say? they were like every tribe would do. use their OWN land to plant food, build homes. now those aztecs built? and you say they rarely cultivated land. and is it right to just steal someones land? i dont think so. i understand you that you're defending your great ol american democracy loving nation. but accept the facts that your nation has its dark side. and by the way, your "democratic" country has the most criminals in prison in the world.
13elsyd13 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 LOL At least the chinese government didn't massacre people! Are you serious or are you really that stupid? I think it is that latter. Um ever heard of Tiannamen Square massacre? The massacre of Tibetians still happening to this day. What about the christians persecuted and thousands killled. What about Falun Gong? You really are a disgrace.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@asasasasdasas you really are a dumbass are you? that comment was about this land grabbing, and you went to tiannamen square? how stupid can you be? yes chinese people killed some but how much did america killed? how much did great old america has been into wars? vietnam war? afghan and iraq war? those are the only few that i can say. you research the rest. how many arabs did americans kill in the middle east? probably will reach upto millions. so stop your dumb comments and wake up....
13elsyd13 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 Wow so quick to make a response, let me guess you are one of those communist government propoganda agents to write good things about CCP on the internet huh. even if it does reach to millions it is still far less then how many chinese people the chinese government has killed. remember the great leap forward/cultural revolution. You were the one who accused the US of massacring people. Look at your comment you pathetic piece of shit. You brought it up not me.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@asasasasdasas Of course you are right. Not to mention peaceful falun gong practitioners, and what has happened to them. Or the invasion and occupation of Tibet. The CCP are THE most vicious corrupt and cruel regime of all time, apart from perhaps the soviet union and shifting the blame to what the USA of any other country has done in the way of criminal acts doesn't change the facts.
KingFahtah 5 months ago 2
@asasasasdasas no im not even close to being a chinese. infact i live in america, thats right USA! and i am not wrong. you guys are just soo brainwashed by american propaganda towards communism, might came from the cold war where you guys were soo afraid of the communist russians. but its wrong on how you americans criticize their government and how they handle things. and i dont watch fox news or cnn because all that is propagand bullshit. i watch real news RTamerica and the alexjoneschannel.
13elsyd13 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 You cant address my comments in a mature or intelligent way because deep down you know you are wrone so you straight away jump into name calling. I dont care you just embarrassed yourself big time dumb commie loving motherfucker. You want to debate I will debate you and you will loose. write something else so we can see how brainwashed and pathetic you are.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@asasasasdasas and by the looks at your account profile you have a lot of hate towards the chinese people. that video "rude chinese" is just typical in a not civilized country, yet they are still achieving that stage. like my old country philippines, uncivilized and uneducated people tend to be rude. just wait when china reach 10-20 years from now, they will be civilized just as the western world is now.
13elsyd13 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 LOL me and a many other people are laughing at your comments and how they are so hypocritical. keep them coming people are sending me emails saying they find your replies to my points interesting. Go on...have some fun...be our little clown....entertain us.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@asasasasdasas totally agree. 13elsyd13 is a brainwashed chinese nationalist...he/she most prolly has a middle class upbringing so their eyes are still blurred to the reality of the monstrous chinese communist govt...someday, when they open their eyes & see what the average chinese joe & what the tibetans& uygurs has to suffer through, that's when they'll come to their senses. i met many chinese middle class and upper middle class.they r living in a fantasy land. very ignorant about the truth
heomak 5 months ago
@heomak Thanks brother.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 excuse me, the cultural revolution caused the death of 30 million people in China...not to mention tore families apart and pitted people against each other..that right there is inhumane and disgusting behavior.
stop pretending like the chinese govt doesn't have any blood on their hands..they do! a million plus tibetans have perished since the chinese invaded Tibet and thousands of Uygurs were wrongfully imprisoned and killed for standing up for their communities and speaking up!
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@13elsyd13 excuse me, the cultural revolution caused the death of 30 million people in China...not to mention tore families apart and pitted people against each other..that right there is inhumane and disgusting behavior.
stop pretending like the chinese govt doesn't have any blood on their hands..they do! a million plus tibetans have perished since the chinese invaded Tibet and thousands of Uygurs were wrongfully imprisoned and killed for standing up for their communities and speaking up!
heomak 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 my tibetan friend's grandmother's entire family was shot by the invading chinese soldiers. and guess what? they were innocent and far from political. they were a simple nomadic family(with no political ties to lhasa). no one is claiming america to be perfect but atleast today, americans can disagree with the govt publicly & not be put behind bars(in black jails) or killed for their views. no wonder so many chinese STILL choose 2 immigrate to the west.
heomak 5 months ago 2
@heomak dude every empire invades and takes land. why just the chinese? british occupied 1/3 of this world usa,canada and australia are the 3 biggest continents. and did you really think they didnt kill those poor helpless natives armed with bow and arrow while the brits had their guns and cannons? and today america or the former brits is still invading countries. afghanistan and iraq are the few nations who are the victims of american imperialism, you need to wake up not me cuz i know things..
13elsyd13 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 the british empire eventually left those colonized countries..but that's not the case with tibet. without inner mongolia, tibet, and east turkestan, china would be a really small country(with less minerals to exploit and get rich off)...that's why that fucked up robotic govt(with no sense or morals WHATSOEVER) continues to colonize tibet & referring to tibet with shitty chinese name like "xinjiang"(my ass). the chinese have their own fuckin ethnic group.why the fuck can't the leave?
heomak 5 months ago
@heomak the british "eventually" left? if they did natives from canada, 'USA' and australia could have been happily living in their own backyard but where are they know? secluded and almost extinct because of that colonization and your telling me they "eventually" left? lol. china is just doing what the 19th century world was doing. they need those things and sacrifices has to be made to achieve a better community.
13elsyd13 5 months ago
@heomak and the british left "eventually"? if they left how come they are still here? if they left why are the natives of canada,america and australia is still secluded from "white" society and almost extinct. if the brits had left their conquered lands the natives would have been running those countries not whites. china is just basically doing what the british was doing 100 years ago. sacrifices has to be made to achieve success.
13elsyd13 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 so u finally admit that the china is indeed illegally occupying tibet, inner mongolia & east turkestan. phew! glad some sense finally got to you. it always make me cringe when i hear people like yourself JUSTIFYING inhumane/illegal acts based on the fact that "oh well...they did it too". but guess what? they did it years ago & are for the most part are embarrassed by the actions of their ancestors. but the chinese govt continues to do silence and kill tibetans to this day! SMH.
heomak 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 This is a fact. Any country the british occupied, when they left it had a good government, good economy and good law system. think about it...singapore, hong kong, australia, new zealand, US, canada. and taiwan and south korea because of the US. When they leave the country it is wealthy, safe and lawful that is a fact.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@asasasasdasas British occupied China for some time with the whole opium trade.
bioches 5 months ago
@bioches no sorry chief you need to read up again, English never occupied china geographically impossible and they never wanted to. they only wanted to force them open so they could trade.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@asasasasdasas i agree to that but thats not the point. the point of our whole debate was land grabbing and killing.
13elsyd13 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 Thats right so why didn't your first comment address that point instead of a seperate discussion that was going on? You decided to continue the conversation in that direction. You replied to one of my comments. I didn't start talking to you.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@asasasasdasas British never occupied Taiwan. You claim that any country that British occupied and left has good government, economy and legal system. Can you explain Israel? Palestine? Bangladesh? Burma? Bhutan? Congo? Sierra Leone? Somalia? Nigeria? Kenya? They were all occupied by British at some point, British left, and how come to this day they all have an authoritarian/militaristic/totalitarian/theocratic government, an undeveloped economy and an highly instable political situation?
devilhunterred 5 months ago
@devilhunterred Look back at the comment i didnt say British I said US in brackets. I was very clear about that. Israel has a good economy and government. What you think they are poor? Have a look at the statistics and pictures. Same with India, a now very fast growing economy and democracy. Did you even look at the history of those countries you mentioned? Bangladesh was a part of pakistan, never under british rule.became the own country in the early 70s.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@devilhunterred You obviously just found a list of places that used to be controlled by british and wrote them in. You dont know your history, they were left with a democratic government but after british left, they ran the country into the ground and have civil wars. Somalia, Kenya, Burma etc. You cant blame the british for them not taking care of their own shit.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@asasasasdasas Completely false. All the states mentioned above are in social chaos and political instability because of the incompetence and the complete lack of local culture and social needs during the British rule in favor of British interests. For example, the animosity between India and Pakistan today stems from British policy of Divide and Conquer and its extremely devastating partition plan based on religious beliefs. Somalia, Kenya, Burma, were all left with no concrete infrastructure.
devilhunterred 5 months ago
@devilhunterred Back for more hey. Awesome. Your argument shows you are running on empty and are reaching for shit. You still want to blame the british despite the fact they left what 70 years ago. I mean how long does it take to get your shit together. You must be either very young or a complete idiot. 70 years is a long time so even if what you say is true they must be incredibly stupid right? thats the only way your argument can work. they are not stupid but you and your comments truely are.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@devilhunterred Also china is in social chaos, just thought i would point that out to you. Its a well known fact.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@asasasasdasas There is a very good reason why the largest empire in the world was disintegrated and collapsed: Because British occupation and rule was selfish, barbaric, imperialist and unjustifiable. There is no argument against this in the lights of contemporary revisionist and post-colonialism school of political thinking. Woodrow Wilson's Self-Determination has incorporated into the very pillars of the modern civilization: There is no justification to impose rule upon another people.
devilhunterred 5 months ago
@devilhunterred so if you believe your "contemporary revisionist and post-colonialism school of political thinking." then what the fuck are you still doing in Tibet? We are not talking about 300 years ago or even 70 but 2011. You cant have it both ways asshole without being a hypocrite. CHECK MATE!
FREE TIBET
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@asasasasdasas Do you not understand what Colonialism is? From wiki: "The colonial period normally refers to a period of history from the late 15th to the 20th century when European nation states established colonies on other continents." Tibet had been tributary state of China since the 7th century, nowhere near the 15th century. And is China an European nation? Nope.
And I doubt you even know how to play chess.
devilhunterred 5 months ago
@devilhunterred Ok taking a definition from wikipedia is so pathetic and stupid. You didn't look at the collins dictionary, websters, oxford or even a chinese dictionary...you choose wikipedia. You really are an idiot. Lol you use wikipedia to prove a point? Lol that is really funny, people are laughing at you big time. Even if i entertain your lol wikipedia definition then that means taiwan is a colony yes? Truely a pathetic little man
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
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@asasasasdasas From a historical context, Colonialism (with a capital C) has always been referring to the colonial period normally refers to a period of history from the late 15th to the 20th century when European nation states established colonies on other continents.
Tibet had been tributary state of China since the 7th century, nowhere near the 15th century. And is China an European nation? Nope.
Try to prove it otherwise.
devilhunterred 5 months ago
@devilhunterred So did China.. And by the way.... I can play Chess :)
AStepAhead100 4 months ago
@asasasasdasas Completely false. All the states mentioned above are in social chaos and political instability because of the incompetence and the complete lack of local culture and social needs during the British rule in favor of British interests. For example, the animosity between India and Pakistan today stems from British policy of Divide and Conquer and its extremely devastating partition plan based on religious beliefs. Somalia, Kenya, Burma, were all left with no concrete infrastructure.
devilhunterred 5 months ago
@devilhunterred Hey dickhead you just copied your own comment from several days ago lol pathetic, like I Said you cant think for yourself only say shit you have memorized lol
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@asasasasdasas I repeated the same text from 2 days ago because apparently you have failed to achieve literal comprehension and a response to the question arose from the aforementioned text. From a historical context, Colonialism (with a capital C) has always been referring to the colonial period normally refers to a period of history from the late 15th to the 20th century when European nation states established colonies on other continents. Try to prove it otherwise.
devilhunterred 5 months ago
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@devilhunterred Wow you really have no life do you? Pathetic. I humiliated you but you keep coming back for more and are so stupid you need to keep copying your comments. YOU ARE A CUNT (with a Capita C) LOL get yourself a woman or a friend lots of people are laughing at you.
asasasasdasas 4 months ago
@asasasasdasas well then what happened with Shanghai, South Africa, Mid Africa, Guatemala, El Salvedore, India, and a few others I can't think off the top of my head? They are pretty much in the same situation and they were also colonized. I partially agree with your analogy but its incomplete.
horndog2006 5 months ago
@horndog2006 Also look at the countries that have NEVER had a civil war because they kept the british institutions, Australia, New Zealand, Canada. You didnt think enough before you decided to shit with your mouth. Also the countries you mentioned in africa are...in africa every country in that continent is very poor. Not one country is rich. So what's your point? lol You really are stupid to say they are in the same position as when colonized, that is a really stupid comment.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
@heomak and by the way im an american and who is still 17.. hmmm at such an early age my eyes are pretty much VERY open. i watch rtamerica and that channel is for the wise. it shows americas dark side and that made me against this country. being a democratic country? yea right, this country has the most criminals in prison in the world with only 300million people while china got 1billion. geez compare that to a communist country? yep thats a democratic country alright!
13elsyd13 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 RTamerica is owned by Putin and his posse....incase u didn't know..america might not be perfect but in terms of how the govt treats its own citizens(america is way ahead of other countries-including china, russia, etc). no wonder thousands of chinese and other nationalities continue to immigrate(illegally or legally) to america and other western countries(known for a better track record for human rights). most rich chinese have dual citizenship for a reason.
heomak 5 months ago 4
@heomak america i agree is a great country but it probably had experienced what the chinese are doing today. you know history is written to the victors right? and what ive experience you get to much discrimination here. and fyi the usa was the pioneer of the slave system is that a human right? i dont think so, and you know why usa is such a great country? because its a civilized country, wait for another 20 years and you'll see china being in that spot.
13elsyd13 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 That's funny. The Chinese govt doesn't massacre people? AHAHAHAHA. Sit down and shut up, kid. Leave politics to grown man. Not to mention that the americans did it 300 years ago while the entire world did it aswel. Chine still does it today, so I don't see your fucking point moron.
wintersnoob 5 months ago
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13elsyd13 5 months ago
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@wintersnoob i was pointing that "massacre" to this land grabbing. and 300 yers ago wasnt done by the entire world, it was just done by the british,spanish and the french. thats not the WHOLE world you dumbass. and america still continue its imperialistic views today by starting a false "war on terror" on afghan and iraq to steal their resources and make them a puppet state. trust me i probably know lots of stuff for a 17 yr old. you can debate all you want, i got answers for you.
13elsyd13 5 months ago
@13elsyd13 45 million deaths from starvation during the 'Great Leap Forward'. Tens of thousands killed and millions of lives ruined during the 'Cultural Revolution'.
Waystheskyburns 5 months ago
@Waystheskyburns and how much did the british invasion of the america, australia and the americans with all their wars, how much did they kill during all those wars?
13elsyd13 5 months ago
The constitution of the United States of America has a safeguard against this sort of thing. It's called the second amendment.
scorpiooooooh 5 months ago
In the US is called foreclosure.
etniko 5 months ago
will they be building an ipod factory or a toy factory?
capucchan8 5 months ago
Those government people are always burning the public resources in shape of cigarettes, when they are not drinking coffee...
Why dont they just drop dead already?
Konicava 5 months ago
No compensation? Really? The state is rich enough to at least throw them some kind of money.
harizotoh7 5 months ago
@harizotoh7 I don't think so. China's local governments are heavily indebted.
RafaelFernandeSantos 5 months ago
China has come so far in such a short time, but still has so far to go it seems.
ava0000 5 months ago
@ava0000 when people say china is the next superpower, i always disagree cuz to be a superpower, you have to earn some degree of respect & although china is economically doing quite good, morally(e.g. human rights-freedom to express yourself ) it's lagging way behind. india may be a little behind china economically speaking but atleast in india, indians can speak against the govt & ruling party and not be imprisoned or tracked down & bullied. there's freedom of press and speech in india.
heomak 5 months ago
i bet Americans would loose their shit over this.. but the same thing happens to Palestinians and it's a non-issue
LovingBundleOfHate 5 months ago
that's what you get when you have a communist government(which is technically authoritarian-therefore, what the govt says goes- you can't even fight it unlike in democratic countries where atleast you have some chance). i'm not saying democratic countries are perfect but they are a hell lot better than countries where only one party(e.g. china) exists and where any form of dissent is crushed instantly and ruthlessly. rise up china's farmers! wake up & smell the coffee china's middle class!
heomak 5 months ago
the leader of the township says 'everything we did here was legal". Ya well, everything Hitler did also was 'legal' under German law at the time.
stangeriam 5 months ago 22
This is horrible, absolutely no property rights at all for the citizenry.
MyDormantSoul 5 months ago
They didn't get violent enough that's why the got land jacked
jcost2012 5 months ago
The Chinese Revolution must come again and wipe away the old order! Rise up China and shake the world!
AndrewMann552 5 months ago 2
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh China I love you!!!!!!!!! I would die for you darling if you want me to!!!!!!!
AlleykatChinadoll 5 months ago
JAYA WE CHINA THX FOR SUPPORTING SRI LANKA
Chamath5 5 months ago
Communism is so funny, and pathetic.
knoose 5 months ago
@knoose Funny, but most land grabbing in China is done by local government that pass the land to big corporations. Doesn't seem like communism to me - it is in fact quite the opposite. Aside from the notable presence of state-owned companies in China, there's nothing very communist about it nowadays.
RafaelFernandeSantos 5 months ago
@knoose china is not really a communist state.it's basically a authoritarian state( with only 1 party) which follows a capitalist model(in terms of their economy). human rights is poor. at the moment, the middle class and upper class are enjoying and quite content with the way things are(because they haven't suffered the injustices that the poorer/lower class have had to endure)...but one day, when their bubble breaks, they will hopefully come to their senses & overthrow their authoritarian govt
heomak 5 months ago
@heomak China is still communist, certainly completely politically and even economically in some ways it is still communist. you can only buy a piece of land or property for 70 years then it goes back to the state.
asasasasdasas 5 months ago
"THIS LAND IS MADE FOR YOU AND ME"...it sings.
*Caugh...*
knoose 5 months ago
Boycott China. Don't support this corrupt regime.
thedailydigestorg 5 months ago
I have a question: Should the most powerful DeVELOPED countries take any blame for this?
xxfuturerevealedxx 5 months ago
This is the real China. We see what you are doing corrupt officials
chamaflauge 5 months ago
Corruption starts at the top my boy not at the bottom. It's only how much the government can be implicated in it that they will scapegoat their cronies in the local gov to placate the ppl.
ig33ku 5 months ago
The distance between city dwellers and rurual people are getting wider. One day, this will bit China in the @ss.
leeo268 5 months ago
I highly doubt the government will let this go unanswered, they need the peoples support and are afraid of protests, especially during this time of uncertainty. I'm pretty sure that the local authorities will be 'interrogated' (tortured) and the land given back.
helix4811 5 months ago
@helix4811
In this you are wrong. The land will not be given back. I bet my life on that one.
chamaflauge 5 months ago
ai hi, this isn't gona turn out well
SuperUncleruckus 5 months ago
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jonahfox 5 months ago
When we buy chinese stuff, this is what we support
Jace1283xmod 5 months ago
@Jace1283xmod Very right about that.
TheAncientMind 5 months ago
@Jace1283xmod super right. But just cannot stop buying cheap stuff.
tyfsk 5 months ago
That is TERRIBLE & SUCKS BIG TIME!!!
slhines7 5 months ago
Slick are the city slickers; the anti-farmer and institutional educated mAss nationals...
thawthepast 5 months ago