Ba Gua Zhang Fighting Techniques - 八卦掌打法

[n1gg3r5000]

37 people are firebenders. 

[LarryRickenbacker]

I'd like to spend about a year studying Tai Chi then add Pa Kua. The two appear to compliment each other. It also looks like a blast to practice. Thanks for posting!

[arimanaz]

beutifull

[mijumaruluvswater]

Airbending(:

[CFgroup1]

If these guys are from the lineage in the caption than they are the real deal! Cheng tin hua is said to be one of 4 students taught by the creator of bagua. It would be a amazing honor to have the chance to train with these guys!

[soerism]

awesome... i'm really shocked by this demonstration... i always wondering about the application of forms in martial arts, so this is the application

[GuamKomudo]

THIS is where I want to learn a fighting system like Ba Gua, or wing chun. In some random courtyard in China by a legit dude who grew up in a violent area after WWII lol Not at some stupid gym here in the US. Some schools teach well here, but it's rare. As long as I'm here in the States, I'll stick with BJJ and boxing, if I learn kung fu, I would want a school that would do it justice. Maybe even in China town or something lol

[antebellumraus3]

@GuamKomudo China town is a very good place to start, especially because the schools are started by Chinese immigrants who are the direct descendants of the founders and many schools hold important roles in their communities.

[amazingboy97]

airbenders unite!

[102293]

they need a movie on this like they did for ip man

[joasdragon]

I really got a problem, I wanna practice Bagua Zhang so bad but I live in Belgium and I can't find any place which is near my place where I can practice it =(

[peterwing]

bruce lin was realy funny name, very original

[HandRpuffin]

Question/s. Is Baguazhang good enough to stand on its own or would someone have to also learn Xingyiquan and Taijiquan to fill in missing parts?

[Kon3ko]

Cool! Airbending style!

[OnaCR96]

@Kon3ko Yeah! =D

[rancho68]

thanks so much for posting this I've been practicing bagua for 15 years now I love it ..

[AquariusKas]

love the forth technique :)

[kyo10051]

@CLFDevil  八卦本是沾衣跌,宮外派的用法偏向如此

[DeathLee28]

this is impressive i wanna learn this style

[dwkfym1]

lol, some of these moves involve moving yourself into a good position to get countered or get thrown. awesome.

[umliu37]

太极奸，，八卦滑，，果然不假。。。

而且套路和实战看起来完全感觉不同，，，

练得不错



[LKH9]

That old master is so agile for his age, it's the result of daily qigong meditations, the core practice for any internal martial arts, Qi it's like physical strength for external arts.

[PinkProgram]

Several of the very basic techniques I know automatically counter such moves... with very little effort. Spinning into an opponent is generally a bad idea as it leaves you open to attack. Better to spin to the outside and control your opponent's movements.

[TheManGuyDude]

@PinkProgram If what you say were true, don't you think baguazhang would already be extincted? The reason why people still learn it today is because it works.

[piaten]

@PinkProgram Agreed!! Bagua is a lot about blindsiding the opponent, NOT blindsiding oneself! Would like to add that the old guy looks in good shape, given his advanced age, and in our sedated society that may be much more valuable than just fighting skill.. -At least until you're attacked and have to defend the lives of your loved ones..

[OushGisher]

Airbending!!!

[hatakah]

Which style Ba Gua Zhang is he Grandmaster of? I would assume it is Sun, as that is his surname...

[bigrobnz]

I luv that last technique!! Good stuff!!

[Capoeirista81]

Bagua is what Aikido should be.

[jeriz16]

internal martial arts can always beat external ones

[bitcheznhos]

HIs name was Dong. must be cool

[bigfatdick5000]

What are the *internal aspects* of BaguaZhang ?

In this video, I am only seeing the physical movements.

I am planning to learn Baguazhang, there's a Jiang's style Bagua master nearby - is that style good?

[Ryotphoenixwing]

I want to combine this with Wing Chun

[AquariusKas]

@Ryotphoenixwing wing chun?

[MrFidzperplex]

this art was so wonderful and great....

[dkJamzz]

i never tained in baguazhang but watching this vid i realized that i do some of these things o.o

[LELLOSCANNER]

2.20 this is the best

[changobilly22]

one thing i loved about it, is that a lot of these techniques, for the most part, knock the opponent to the floor, which may injure him, but its not a these straight hitting blows which i think is REALLY cool

i respect this WAY more than i do these MMA fighters, without question

and by the way!!! did you guys know this style is used in Avatar: The Last Airbender to represent the Airbenders?

i know its cheesy to learn it from this, but i plan to keep looking into this art

it really is cool : )

[Terryltk]

superb technique.. :)

[manufacturedfracture]

omg i have learned alot very inspriational thank you

[AndyRaslan]

Among the 3 main internal systems of China, I like BaGua the most, because of its continuous circular movement, its rapid counterattacks and the fact that it's a killer exercise for the legs :P

[FinalKenny2]

It's interesting to see some application. I would love to experience this myself. This makes me want to ask so many questions. :D

Also it is always amazing to see the similarities between inner martial arts. The circular principle for instance I can also find in Aikido. (I am an Aikidoka.)

I have a question: Is Baguazhang a wushu where one has to be stretched out in young age as well, like in many other Chinese arts?

[Bastion83]

@FinalKenny2 I dont think a young age is required but like every other system it most likely would help, then again I've known very few kids with the patience to learn many styles of chinese kung fu, much less one as demanding in terms of patience as Baqua.

[ljgshkg]

@FinalKenny2

Because the inner martial arts are taoist martial arts. They share the exact same principle and "core". It's just difference in how they are expressed physically.

To answer your question, no inner martial art must start from a young age (though it's better). Because the core of taoist martial art is 內丹功, aiming to let you live forever (or so they hope)

[f8ofthedragon]

@FinalKenny2

Not necessarily... Flexibility at a young age and maintaining that flexibility through adulthood is a generally good idea in all Martial Arts... As Ba Gua Zhang focuses extensively on being "rooted" even when on one foot, the combative form of Ba Gua does not employ very many high flying kicks...

[HeyUncleFucker]

this is ssoooooo true

[Dani41149]

The chinese old man fighting is very cool!

[Malanaks]

you're all talking about "mma". Is that mixed or modern? Mixed is normally what it stands for I think but the latter would be appropriate in this situation. Clearly I'm no expert, I'm just looking up baguazhang cause I think it could be fun. According to some these comments I should get spiritually involved to master it. Is there something wrong with taking this up for leasure?

[f8ofthedragon]

@Malanaks

No, it a great form of exercise... As a workout, it'll definitely be a challenge... To master it doesn't require spirituality, but understanding of the principles Ba Gua employs... Some will say that the last statement is spiritual, others will disagree. The point really is that if you dedicate yourself to the Art the closer you'll get to mastering it... And as I've learned over the years... The closer you get to understand, you realize just how far you really are from mastering it...

[MsMARIA122]

gooood

[UghAgh12]

LOL u can hear the spine crack @ 1:57. The receiver really has a tough time pulling it together.

[77127Shadow]

ppl listen i train ba gua and its the movment that matters but ba gua fused with bo staff skils is much more powerful

[CrowdPleeza]

I've seen several controlled martial arts demonstrations on youtube. I think the best way to see the actual effectivness of a style is to let the fighters(with protective gear)just go at it without breaking them up after a clinch. Just let the sparring go. Controlled demos don't give you enough realism and don't really reflect how effective or ineffective a style is.

[carbonlaminate]

@CrowdPleeza +1

[LiutendantJack777]

@CrowdPleeza a style is only as effective as you make it be.

[OniGundamSeed]

always nice i wish i know a place to learn it my self

[ks2181998]

i like it

[sheepfish1]

Ba Gua Zhang is such a beautiful art. So fluent and effective yet you can spend a whole lifetime studying and still learn more.

[f8ofthedragon]

@sheepfish1

I totally agree!

[noobzaebot]

1:47 Very tricky. If the guy could know your intention he can attack your head while you kneel down. Gotta do it fast. I really like it though.

[isrealjericho941]

wow its real! im surprised

[edgeisahomo]

avatar:airbending, aweosome

[loveunderlaw]

It's nice to see pure traditional martial arts, instead of all the watered down crap that's out there these days.

[griqs]

lol 80th comment (take the zero off) and its baguazhang comment but i love the throws and qiuckness in ba gua

[CheshireTiger2501]

i agree with Pantagruelion ^_^ it wouldn't fit.....unlike if you are stupid and look for a fight...looking for a fight are for morons and amateur show-off in martial arts....like MMAs. MMA <--- is simply brawling its not martial arts....where is the art in that?

[SeriousSam505]

agreed CheshireTiger2501 i never liked MMA, for me mma, is only made to hurt the others in order to make people think you are the best

[AdrianBandic]

quite interesting, i'd love to practice it, but i dont really care since i do kickboxing... :P

[LarsLeenders]

I like the roundness in this martial art

[Happyanand69]

I can see what you mean. I agree.

[redmansounds]

Wilson Wu is an IMA genius!

[djkaneck1]

1:50, that technique is too funky! I want to master that throw.

[junlong0107]

I do like the "circle-walking" concept in Ba Gua because it trained ya to maintain focus on your opposition. By walking around your opposition, ya basically is "trapping" him as well as unable him to accurately centre his attention on ya.

[ryanandtricia]

Are there any good instructional Ba Gua Zhang videos out there for purchase? Even though I love this stuff, there will never be a masterful teacher in a po-dunk city inside a po-dunk state...which is where I live :( I know videos can't replace a teacher, but it would be better than nothing.

[nanhuazhenren]

where do you live?

[casady102]

so the basics for ba gua is to use their weight against them?

[shaolinwarriormark]

good flow!

[shifudan]

too many martial artsist think its all about the fight, these arts have changed through theyears and health is a big part and is the philosophy behind the methods of health. many top named fighters today train yoga, with their art, take supplements with their art, seek out nutritionist, etc its all lpart of the equation, yet is iall intertwined in the chinese internal arts, its all in their, and to only learn the fighting is one piece of a bigger whole

[TriangleMotions]

@shifudan one of my sifu's(i have two) practices yoga, its made him so flexible its like fighting a guy made of rubber.

[ThePoutineKing]

it goes by eight trigrams such as neji and hinata in naruto.

[cfG21]

you mean they go by this since this art existed before naruto and the 8 trigram palm is a chinese art not jaapenese

[dfgggg89]

The man in black kept repeating the same mistake. The man in yellow an expert grappler. The man in black should have kept his distance and used his kicks to wear out his opponents legs. Syle means lttle if you use faulty strategy. He probably hit himself on the head after seeing this vid.

[TheSenseofTouch]

Bagua = Tai Chi??

[dboycap]

yes, bagua contains tai chi like methods

[Bastion83]

baqua is the sister art of tai chi and much younger

[9sectionwhip]

Bagua, Taiji, and Xinyi are all related..one reason they're all cool is they kinda.."grew up" near to each other:)

[Didi972]

Bagua is a descendant to Tai Ji (like Aikido), and Xin Yi has nothing to do with the 2 others

[quanjiahao87]

@Didi972

Bagua is just Bagua never came from Tai ji, it's founder was Dong hai quan, there isn't any link to how bagua became the descent form taichi. If anything the 3 famous internal martial arts Xing yi, Bagua, and Taiji are 3 totally different arts which shares the similar principles with a different emphasis.

[f8ofthedragon]

@Didi972

Xin Yi is actually tied pretty closely to Ba Gua. Xin Yi is like the external form of Ba Gua. Much of the twisting in Ba Gua is present in Xin Yi and movements are developmentally the same.

[f8ofthedragon]

@TheSenseofTouch

No, although similar in training principles... Ba Gua was developed as a true combative system... Whereas Tai Chi developed as a strengthening/defensive system. Tai Chi developed reflex response and internal power. Ba Gua developed striking with internal power...

[yoshilipitiss]

I want to learn this art. I'm currently doing Muay Thai under a 3 time world champion, but there's a baguazhang school in my neighbourhood. I just wanted to know if this would conflict with my MT, or it would be easy to cross train without having to ignore some moves of either art, like how Karate guys can't train in Muay Thai without disregarding some stances, moves etc.

some arts just dont go together. Also the instructor is Dave Meikle. anyone every heard of him?

[jojopkiller]

if they teach really good baguazhang u will have conflict because it will be too hard to focus on both sports but if they teacha lousy one then its fine i guess.

[Eklipzeleadguitar]

Bagua zhan has incorperated the martial side of alot of chinese medicine. You guys are right in saying that it is very fluid and circular in nature. WHY that is is so the momentum will always mainain motion. Its hard to fight a person that person binds your body so you cant move, remove your balance so you cant offer a counter attack. pay most attention to his blocks. Notice how fluid they are with no extra space. he doesnt stand there and take it, he just simple redirects them.

[tonso9]

Technique 4 is pretty cool. I always wondered what that low stance was used for.

[nolyfe12]

it looks aggressive and yet it has such a nice flow to it

[stefalim]

First of all, yeah, Bagua is a real style. Today, it's harder to find a genuine version I guess. but in the old days, they would fight harder than in any bar or street, lol. Swords and knives. Bar fight? Now that's fucking funny.

[Interrogater]

that low stance. whatever it's called. it's nice. it's really unpredictable. any chinese martial artist should learn how to effectively utilize that stance. i don't see it that often nowadays.

[stefalim]

LOL! Street fighting? Bars? Clubs? lol. Bagua is a real martial art, but to be efficient, it takes many, many years. The whole body must relearn to move. It takes much dedication. Fights in bar are made not by true martial artists, but by drunk male dominent monkeys. Plus, when a fight occures, all the pretty moves go away.

[VodkaPowered]

the moves goes away cause u didnt train hard enough...... but if u said, when ur pissed drunk & ur moves r uncoordinated, then i agree.........

[Aheyne]

uhh.. pretty moves are bullshit in a fight. When the shit hits the fan, you wanted the easiest, most simple and direct technique. Flowery shit = broken face.

[pantagruelion1]

Street fights, bar fights, etc. ...? That's the environment of scumbags; now, if you're a true martial artist, your lifestyle will be incompatible with that mainly for three reasons: for training time, dignity, and because you will be far away from that shit - unless you're a policeman on duty.

[Milkmadness]

agreed. scumbags will flock to scum bags and possibly fight each other. it's kind of like if two mirrors could drink, they'd be fighting each other/ themselves.

[sleepykid156]

there are always ways to apply what you learn in Martial Arts for practical self defense, its matter of applying the principles you learn and dedicated practice. but many people who live in poorer area of society are often exposed to extreme cases of violence and they often need no-nonsense straight to the point training that cuts down training time to the minimal.

for us average joes, it will be rare for us to be in a violent confrontation. again it's matter of applications to ur situations.

[bigglue69]

@pantagruelion1

with all due respect, I beg to differ.

Here, I think the simplest way of explaining would be the yin/yang theory.

You have to be around some bad stuff in your life and you can bet most masters worth their weight in salt have been in some "unsavory" situations.

In fact, I have known people who entered into martial arts with an "unsavory" past.

Does that make sense?

[AGanimeH]

@bigglue69 I believe a martial artist must be able to defend himself/herself in a streetfight and therefore he must have been in a couple of streetfight before. If you can't defeat your opponent at any given situation, then you're not a martial artist. If you've never been in a real fight before and yet you claim that you're strong, you're not a real martial artist.

[AGanimeH]

@bigglue69 I believe a martial artist must be able to defend himself/herself in a streetfight and therefore he must have been in a couple of streetfight before. If you can't defeat your opponent at any given situation, then you're not a martial artist. If you've never been in a real fight before and yet you claim that you're strong, you're not a real martial artist.

[carbonlaminate]

@pantagruelion1 and then there

s the real world . you don't like going to bars and having a drink or two with friends? I avoided trouble when I went out last night. I did my best, and I came away no worse for the wear. It doesn't always happen like that, however.

In any case, how about some life balance? You train and still have a social life.

[thomasknash]

@pantagruelion1 What about a soldier? The entire point of martial arts to begin with was to do with war ("martial" comes from the Roman god of war Mars). So are soldier's supposed to avoid going into dangerous areas because it is the environment of scumbags?

And what is this "true martial artist"? Is that like a "True Christian" or a "Real American" or any other label that excludes people for not believing in the same thing as you?

[OrderYourWorld]

@pantagruelion1 Thank you! I have been trying to get that throught he heads of my MMA junky friends who are always dissing my internal arts training,

[ranvideogamer]

@OrderYourWorld Theres nothing wrong with internal arts or MMA. everyone's dissing MMA because it's not traditional, but they still have and developed good styles of martial arts. This one is actually incredibly hard to learn though so I doubt I will ever see this in MMA

[THAIWARRIOR777]

@OrderYourWorld Keep up your training the internal self makes the external self stronger. MMA has kind of commercialized and watered down the true essence of martial arts. I train Muay Thai prodominently (which is more external) as far a conditioning, but I have learned to take the same priciples of internal arts and apply them to better myself. Good Luck.

[technonaut31337]

@pantagruelion1 I wish it was so simple. I've been attacked three times. Once was the right place right time, but someone else had come looking for a fight. But in two of those cases, I was attacked simply because someone else felt like proving themselves. The very mystery of martial arts may itself draw those who would seek to make themselves feel better by putting it down.

[steveecker]

Ooh pretty, at 2:01, once the head is back... Punch to the throat should take someone out pretty quick ^_^

[8stepsifu]

if followed through quickly you drop the base of the head on the ground, then follow through with a hit to the temple or neck. Angles correctly it can be a neck break or dislocation.

[rep5281]

Does this stuff really work? Has anyone seen it in a real street fight, bar fight, club fight, etc. ?

[warfox777]

Yes it works and it works well. It was used on battle fields and for assassination. But you gotta be patiend enough to practice it. Not everyone has the discipline for martial arts. But not proudly I have been in a lot of of fights. I have never had a problem.

[Aheyne]

Yes it does really work. it developed such a good reputation in a short period of time (200 years since creation) BECAUSE it is such an effective fighting art. It became the standard training for Beijing Bodyguards, because it is effective in dealing with multiple attackers quickly.

I don't know what Warfox777 is talking about "assassinations" and all that - it was used mostly versus bandits and many Bagua practitioners were hired by police squads to track down people.

[tallgrass115]

I want to practice Baguazhang, so I've just been practicing circle walking because I can't find a teacher. Even the circle walking works in a battle. When two of myfriends were running after me, I outmaneuvered them going at less than half they're speed, using circle walking techniques.

[BaguazhangMaster]

Yes. This is considered one of the most advanced of martial arts systems. However it is also one of the most difficult to learn... It was and still is used in China's Police Forces and personal Body Guards. It is one of the most effective of the Kung Fu Styles because it is a rapid changing circular style with advanced boxing. It very adaptive and is actually known for its speed and on a high level being able to take out several opponents in the same fight.

[8stepsifu]

8 Step mantis uses the same moves almost the same way. They are supprisingly easy to do. The harder the other people are going, the easier the techniques are. Sometimes when my students don't understand how the technique works I tell them to practice at fighting speed and it becomes simple. I've used these techniquese mma style sparring with many other people. Ba gua fighters are some of the hardest to fight against. See for yourself.

[VodkaPowered]

good news & bad news,

good news yes that stuff really works.

bad news it would take a long time for some one to master it. before u can truly master the whole style, u can expect to have ur ass kicked

[VodkaPowered]

if u want to have bar fights, go learn drunken boxing....... better suited for when ur intoxicated :P

[cosmo101]

yeah that is true

[captainwillies69]

drunken boxing is made to imitate a drunken person to confuse your enemy it has nothing to do with actually being drunk. stop watching movies.

[jacko821]

yeah, but imagine actually being drunk and beating your opponent lol

[Bastion83]

have to work hard at it but ive seen it, felt it and trust me, if trained right...*shudder* it works.

[soonmethod]

Beautiful! Thank you for posting

[fatochsan]

no offense but sthose graabs look like giggity poses but i like the stratagey these guys use dude i need 2 learn this form

[bcfsl]

Just scratching the surface of the 10 000 tricks of BaGua Zhang...

A very dangerous and deadly fighting art that is focused on the very rapid and violent physical destruction of multiple opponents. Typically the enemy's weapons are the primary target of your attack, rather than someting to be merely blocked. The exact opposite of Ground 'n' Pound...

[drawing1516]

number 4 lookes like what aang did off of avatar the last airbender!

[FanFilm88]

well, if you check wikipedia, u will find that air benders tend to use a version of bagua zhang in their fighting style

[tallgrass115]

Actually, the creator of Avatar stated himself that airbending was based on Baguazhang. This was because the flow of Bagua zhang reflects the constant flow of air!

[Ronin6575]

Excellent video...but too short...these moves are very quick and effective

[WarriorBoy]

That's how you know this is the real stuff. I hate seeing fluffy, flowery apps with all of this stylized stuff you'll never see in a real fight.

This stuff here is the real deal because it's quick and to the point, with moves that rely on valid concepts and principles. Always refreshing to see the core of CMA fighting like this.

[maspnzoog]

the fluffy flowery apps you're talking about is called flowery fists and embroidered kicks

[WarriorBoy]

Right, and those "flowery fists and embrodiery kicks" belong in Wushu, but need to not be so promoted in the CMA community. When people think of real Gung Fu, it would be nice if they thought of this instead of that high flying stuff with the wires and such.

[daedra83]

Ayblam, I'm from canada (Edmonton) I would like to know if there is a place in my city to get baguazhang courses? Thanks!!! You can answer to me by sending a personal message. Thanks!! great videos!

[Bennyye]

Chinese Kung fu is far beyond fighting even though it's core is self defense and sparring techniques. It includes the hidden potential ability development and moral perfection. See how the late 70+ year old grand master still moves like he's 30! Only the people who study chinese culture well enough would understand.

I like studying kungfu =)

[BaguaBill]

Why don't you give some examples of how studying Chinese Culture would help the understanding of how the old man can move like he's 30 years old?

[Bennyye]

Bagua belongs to one of the Taoist exercises, it can help you to save your essence in your body, can prolong your life.

[richardshapiroII]

bill there is a bagua book out that talks about this a lot, called Liu Bin's Zhuang Gong Bagua Zhang, written by Zhang Jie. He was a professor of chinese culture in Beijing, as well as a student of Liu Bin's Bagua Zhang. Hard to post an example in 500 char...

[Initialrx7]

i've been reading that :P

[ruud1977]

reaching enlightenment??? WTF...I've seen good martial artists but non of them had to reach enlightenment.

[HeavyShockwave]

I wonder how long it would take to become a master of the art???

[ayblam]

Traditionally should be at least 10 years for Bagua or Taichi as well get the permission from the grandmaster. Sometimes it depends on the person if he has reached enlightenment and is very determined to shorten the period.

[countkabooom]

"A pot of water can take 10 years to boil, if you keep taking it off the fire."

[lordtains]

The reason why most MMA people can't understand traditional arts is the same reason why they will never become true masters. They discarded philosophy and with that they discarded the possibility to become true masters.

Enlightenment and mastery of an art are linked. Spirituality and Martial Arts are linked. Only a few people are meant to understand this, thats why I stopped explaining.

[MrJaythree]

hmm.....hold up, they didn't "discard" philosophy.....their philosophy is....If it works, do it. This in itself is their philosophy to not combine fighting with other ideals. If you want to learn fighting, then fight. If you want to learn philosophy then study philosophy. Combining them takes something away from the other whether you agree with it or not.

[deeschan]

i don't agree with that. martial arts are about fighting above everything. the link with spirituality came after, as for the health too. Enlightenment and mastery of an art are not inevitably linked, that's the difference between experts and masters. there are great experts out there who have no humility or are not nice but their level is there

[gs1102]

First came saint...then warrior

if you a person isn't both...he/she will never become a true master...

spirituality and the martial side is linked very much.

[jarren70]

i totally agree. without balance one will always be off center and lacking true harmony.

[anhkhoinguyen]

agreed!

[THERAWLINATOR]

@lordtains very interesting ideas. I like the way you learned to think.

[Vorgoth911]

@lordtains

agreed 100%

[ThirdEyeLight]

@lordtains

I try to explain, maybe you are right. My frustration with people's inability to open their minds or try anything I say creates much anger. I should just drop it and focus on my own study. I just get excited to teach when I learn something new. Once you figure out some basic things it all falls into place and seems like common sense.

[OrderYourWorld]

@lordtains Most definitely. I am glad MMA wasn't around when I first started my training in junior high school because I was at first only concerened with being a badass. After I took an good ass-whipping from an unlikely opponent, I began to search out what went wrong, thus my beginning on the road to enlightenment. The paradox is, the more I train in martial arts the less I want to fight.

[Emanouche]

@OrderYourWorld MMA is for sport, and it is way too highly look upon by the public. Ancient Martial arts like Karate, Judo, etc... were meant for war purposes, outside the rules of a ring directed by a referee. Heck, I don't think an MMA fighter would last long against a master.

[piguahand]

very nice!

[DamienZshadow]

Even as someone who training in MMA, I have to say that was really interesting to watch. I could see a lot of that being practical and useful. I love seeing the many different ways exotic martial arts such as these come up with.

[gand5000]

yeah, I'm a big fan of MMA and mixing arts together, but I really think traditional martial arts get a bum rap sometimes. It's become too fashionable to hate on them. I really think a true martial artist would want to expand his perspective as much as possible, whether he's an MMA guy or a karate guy or whatever.

There's too much good stuff to miss out there.

[ruud1977]

Problem lies in the training nowadays, to many people train traditional styles without proper understanding and basics. 9 out of 10 don't know what they're doing. Mma people train kicking bags for hours...

[lordtains]

true. Instead of looking which art sucks and which is better, people should realize that every art works. Every art has been used in battle, and if it wouldn't work, people wouldn't train in them.

every art has something amazing to them. Aikido's throws, Baguazhangs speed in circling, Wing Chun's reflexes and fast punches, Taekwondo's flashy kicks, Muay Thai's amazing knee's.... That's why one should not limit himself to just one art.

[rory2501]

Very cool.

[pattonwqw]

The Bagua fighting techniques demontrated here are pretty conventional martial arts style. And they are very powerful in real fighting.

[IamNorthwind]

Very nice indeed