your high level deserve high expectation, been that said: in the intro don't forget a litle vibrato on the strings in 00:03 and 00:07 (BY THE END OF EACH NOTE) that would give it more soul and will turn your cover to a simple PERFECT ONE! great job men.
This is the most accurate cover I've watched on youtube so far. You're playing is awesome and now I've made up my mind to play it just like you. Thank you :)
@bobo911410 it's not that hard once you get used to it Learn to play the song Hypnotize by System of a down it's easy and should help you out alot with picking.
btw, if u dnt remember, im the dude who asked u what strings u used, and after you told me, i went out and bought a pack, best fuckin strings on earth, just thought u'd like to knw u influenced someone lol, thnx bro, great strings
hey man, would you mind sending me a link/vid on where the different bars are on a 6 string acoustic? sorry if bars isnt the right word, im a little new to this
Hey, I'm new to the guitar. When I try to tune it to half a step below drop D and play, my 5th string is WAY too high pitched...I have no idea what to do! Help me please, thanks.
@cobraz22 It sadly sounds miles away from a Taylor... wish I could own one of those one day. This is a Takamine EG530SC that sounds good but you cannot compare it with a Taylor. :)
@FeetInTheWater that, or just get an acoustic electric, and i said you need new strings cause they are to squeaky, maybe keep those strings and buy the finger ease string lubricant! it works, that what i did.
@TheForeverNicki That Takamine is an acoustic electric. I know about the squeaking. However, it's not bothering me. It's a usual sound while playing and it'll fade eventually with me going on playing and improving my technique. =)
thank you for making a great cover and actually putting the tabs in the description. When ever i look at covers, i always see that someone either makes a good cover with no tabs or someone makes a bad cover with bad tabs
@johnfknking I honestly don't know what you mean with 5th fret... you mean in the intro, right? When you look at the "song structure" part in my tab, then you'll see that it's the same thing over and over again... so I only wrote down how many times you play through each section. .
ok that was just fuckin incredible. ill just throw my guitar out right now cuz i will never be even CLOSE to as good as you are. im totally jealous lol. seriously, you pick up songs VERY well. i dont know if you do it by ear, but FUCK YOU ARE GOOD.
not exactly, the intro is a bit off to how you tabbed it.
however, you inspired me to really learn how to play guitar :L
i looked at this, and it was too hard so i figured i'd learn some easier songs and come back to it. I can now play this song almost perfectly :) and i'd like to thank you :P
You know there are chrome coated steel strings, they're very good, have same or even better sound, plus, they are smooth and dont have the scratchy sound to em.
Could you give me a brand for chrome coated strings? I looked around, but couldn't find something. I usually play the 80/20 Bronze Elixir Nanoweb coated. Can't remember what I had on at the time of the video.
But yeah, i wish i could help with the strings. but i dont know what it is, i just know they have a smooth coat over them and they're nice to play with.
But i can try looking around on the net for you if you'd like?
@jlawson540... fuckin douchebag homophobic motherfucker... (even though this guy isn't gay... his charm bracelet is probably a memento of something.. like most charm bracelets)
I'm a little slow, so i don't get it...how the hell you play???, sorry... well my problem is, i can't see where you put your fingers in the beginning... maybe this isn't good but my Dad tell me, you have a little problem...when you change your fingers you let hear when you change...is just a comment, you play very well even so, I would like you to tell me how you do it because the tabs are strange... thank you.
What is strange about the tabs? Hm. I'm not really sure what your problem is. If you can read tabs, then they should be pretty clear. It's true that you hear the "scratchy" sound when I change chords. Can't help it, it's a fast song. You'll hear it from the best artists and for me it's part of playing the guitar. I've been working on reducing the sound a little, but you never can fully silence it.
If you're playing along with the album version, then you need to be in Drop D with a capo in the second fret. If you wanna stay in Drop D, then look for the video at Live at the Palace and play along with that version.
I had it as my alarm clock ringtone for quite a while... then... when I started to hate the song because I had to get up too damn early, I changed it to something else. xD Now I love the song again, haha.
Hey, thanks for the comment! I hope to post the tabs soon. They're halfway finished, but I haven't had time yet to do the rest of them. Hopefully soon.
Jap... lauter sinnloses Zeugs jetzt auf der Seite, also echt. ;) Hab ich vorher auch noch nie gemacht, haha. Man liest sich bestimmt mal wieder. Gute Nacht. ^^
haha....barre ist auf der A ziemlich schwer muss ich sagen :D zumindest auf meiner...auf den E-gitarren dagegen total einfach...
ein freund von mir kauft sich immer so hammer-gitarren....der hat auch videos auf youtube....aber er kann RICHTIG spielen...er ist ein GOTT :D mein vorbild sozusagen hihi
musst mal unter meinen abos nachschauen..er nennt sich "129317381" (einfallsreich, ich weiss :D )..
It sounds so good. :D Thanks a lot for giving the tabs.
tib0ulay 1 month ago
good job.....thanks for your help
embrasseur 1 month ago
your high level deserve high expectation, been that said: in the intro don't forget a litle vibrato on the strings in 00:03 and 00:07 (BY THE END OF EACH NOTE) that would give it more soul and will turn your cover to a simple PERFECT ONE! great job men.
darrelwylde 2 months ago
either you are a man wearing a charm braclet or a incredibly manly woman.... the cover was great!!
bananamuffinsramazin 3 months ago
This is the most accurate cover I've watched on youtube so far. You're playing is awesome and now I've made up my mind to play it just like you. Thank you :)
dunzler 3 months ago
this looks so easy to be played, informing everyone this is fucking hard I cant play it.
ToreroMmk 4 months ago
Its so funny when people ask for the tab!!! lol
Ericman2043 4 months ago
wooow niiice one :D !!!
merigydevil13 7 months ago
O H M Y G O D !! :O..best
fooLOLxD 7 months ago
WOW your ace!!!!!!!!!! luv it ^_^
MsUZUMAKI999 7 months ago
Awesome playing! =D
TmAnTeRrOr 8 months ago
woooooooooho rock im park!!
d4ve92 9 months ago
Great cover. Thanks a lot for tabs buddy :)
dangerousrule 10 months ago
i hope lern sing like you
Pwner2k11 11 months ago
@xespguitarsx The album version is in Drop D, with capoon the second fret. And yeah, it's an acoustic version because I like that version better.
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
Great job. How do you get your sound to sound so clean?
TheMechanicalRomance 1 year ago
AWESOME!
ButItsMonday 1 year ago
Hey thanks a lot for the tab and the video it sounds really good. NIce playing :)
GNTime 1 year ago
HOW THE HELL DO U PIK THE STRINGS SO FAST!? im freakin handicapped in pinky strength, plucking, and fast undividual notes with a pick xD
bobo911410 1 year ago
@bobo911410 Are you double jointed? I am and I have the same problem.
TheMechanicalRomance 1 year ago
@TheMechanicalRomance xD does that rly effect the playin? yea i am lawl that sux :c at least i can relate :P
bobo911410 1 year ago
@bobo911410 it's not that hard once you get used to it Learn to play the song Hypnotize by System of a down it's easy and should help you out alot with picking.
647jon 1 year ago
this tab works for the album version=?¿
jota9407 1 year ago
wow 4 on 217 easy to say suck my dick 4's
1212cotton1212 1 year ago
Amazing !
ryco93700 1 year ago
I learned just listening D:
Foolfocker 1 year ago
WHOA DUDE YOU R FREAKIN' AWSOME!!!!
wakablue3 1 year ago
btw, if u dnt remember, im the dude who asked u what strings u used, and after you told me, i went out and bought a pack, best fuckin strings on earth, just thought u'd like to knw u influenced someone lol, thnx bro, great strings
Jmyster4 1 year ago
good cover mate, going to go try and learn it now :D
guitarpicknick 1 year ago
hey man, would you mind sending me a link/vid on where the different bars are on a 6 string acoustic? sorry if bars isnt the right word, im a little new to this
thekingoghost 1 year ago
I love you man
my girlfriend likes this song but I could not play
if it was not you I do not impress her
thank you man
you saved my relationship
superezequiel100 1 year ago
@superezequiel100 lucky dude i learned this...and i reallised i learnet it wrong from someone youtube stpid guy
bronzejusthawk 1 year ago
veeerry good! :)
ThePunkPeanut 1 year ago
My finger accidentally touches the G string all the time :(:(
Dactes1337 1 year ago
Awesome cover and amazing sounding guitar. Subscribed :)
MadDistortion 1 year ago
Hey, I'm new to the guitar. When I try to tune it to half a step below drop D and play, my 5th string is WAY too high pitched...I have no idea what to do! Help me please, thanks.
Eskavovo 1 year ago
@Eskavovo Get yourself a chromatic tuner and it'll be way easier.
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
hey auf welchem rock am ring warst du?? also welches jahr?
btw: nice cover ;-) oder war das rock im park?
shadowhero007 1 year ago
@shadowhero007 Rock im Park 2009. :)
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
@FeetInTheWater ^^
schade bis 2008 war ich auch immer bei RaR aber jetzt isses mir einfach zu Teuer
-.-
echt ne frechheit 150 € O.o
shadowhero007 1 year ago
@shadowhero007 Ich hatte 2 Freikarten gewonnen. Sonst war ich da nie, weils mir auch schon immer zu teuer war. Aber so war es ganz nett. ;)
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
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shadowhero007 1 year ago
hey budddy what type of strings to you use? they sound beautiful
Jmyster4 1 year ago
@Jmyster4 Elixir Nanoweb strings. :) 10's or 11's gauge.
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
@FeetInTheWater u'll never care man but i actually went out and picked up a set from L&M
Jmyster4 1 year ago
@Jmyster4 Cool!
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
Awesome ! It will be cool if you upload tutorial for full song :)
DeathFlour13 1 year ago
awesome , can i get the tabs plz?
mamoony2 1 year ago
@mamoony2 They're in the video description.
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
your amazingly good:)
iBrandon7137 1 year ago
I actually love even more your sound than the original track :D
blackfordgt 1 year ago
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Smpfilm1 1 year ago
Amazing (:
CrisMorOfficial 1 year ago
"You Can Become Someone In Life..."
-Just Imagine If You Become A Writer Some-Day-Soon-
RatedRGod 1 year ago
@RatedRGod Your comments are so very sweet! Thank you. :)
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
hey that was gr8 man !!!!! btw i loved the dudududu on tabs :)
Gj anyway !!!!
k0nal0ver 1 year ago
i have this guitar!!!
xHeReTiiC 1 year ago
amazing :)
Schlemmassel 1 year ago
I love you man <3
Great job.
Rasti1994 1 year ago
Not good but Amazing. And great singing too. 5/5
Smpfilm1 1 year ago
How do people pay attention to that squeaking noise it's just a regular thing that happens with guitars
blahpoop99 1 year ago
@blahpoop99 idk but i happen to like it. its one of the reasons i started playing lol
iamgoth50 1 year ago
This is so a great cover that i'm learning this song today, greates cover of the song
crp13331 1 year ago
The squeak hurt my ears but awesome cover and tyvm for the tabs!
1HeartnSoul 1 year ago
thats awesome
TheBENJAMMIN1001 1 year ago
Strings are fine, and it sounds like a taylor
cobraz22 1 year ago
@cobraz22 It sadly sounds miles away from a Taylor... wish I could own one of those one day. This is a Takamine EG530SC that sounds good but you cannot compare it with a Taylor. :)
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
Strings sound fine and it sounds like a taylor
cobraz22 1 year ago
what guitar is that because it sounds amazing even compared to my Washburn?
greenandredretards 1 year ago
@greenandredretards It's a Takamine EG530SC.
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
one of the best covers
judypeel 1 year ago
sounds good, execpt i think you need new strings, maybe like gibson bronze lights, they are $9, and it will sound a lot better, just my opinion
TheForeverNicki 1 year ago
@TheForeverNicki There's Elixir Nanowebs on there that sound fine... what I need is a microphone to record the guitar with. ;)
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
@FeetInTheWater that, or just get an acoustic electric, and i said you need new strings cause they are to squeaky, maybe keep those strings and buy the finger ease string lubricant! it works, that what i did.
TheForeverNicki 1 year ago
@TheForeverNicki That Takamine is an acoustic electric. I know about the squeaking. However, it's not bothering me. It's a usual sound while playing and it'll fade eventually with me going on playing and improving my technique. =)
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
this is fucking awesome
1q1q1q1qjigsaw 1 year ago
ur pretty beast i just learned the tab its sick Thank YOU!!!
1234567greenday 1 year ago
Ohmy! Your soo good!
I was just wondering if this would be hard to learn, since I just started guitar?
9EmMa6 1 year ago
good job can i get the tab
quit293 1 year ago
@quit293 There's a link in the video description. Click it.
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
damn need the tabs! =D it sounds good :)
MarvinTank 1 year ago
@MarvinTank There's a link in the video description. Click it.
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
LMAO ONLY 1 DISLIKE
dinamofan222 1 year ago
Wow you're really good. I like it a lot !!
Vixeniita 1 year ago
it should be a minor third higher :S
sounds good though ^_^
drummerman55 1 year ago
Man you are the best very nice cover!!! could you play take me under by three days grace??? Please!!!
MatKiller1197 1 year ago
cool!
very awesome guy! XD
thanks
mozzzrock 1 year ago
wow perfect dude... how long does it take??
666satyriasis 1 year ago
thank you for making a great cover and actually putting the tabs in the description. When ever i look at covers, i always see that someone either makes a good cover with no tabs or someone makes a bad cover with bad tabs
BioExtract 1 year ago
i wish my guitar sounded like yours..
ventje31 1 year ago
Good Job man
SirAblanoCoks 1 year ago
Best intro by far bro
cobraz22 1 year ago
@johnfknking I honestly don't know what you mean with 5th fret... you mean in the intro, right? When you look at the "song structure" part in my tab, then you'll see that it's the same thing over and over again... so I only wrote down how many times you play through each section. .
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
ok that was just fuckin incredible. ill just throw my guitar out right now cuz i will never be even CLOSE to as good as you are. im totally jealous lol. seriously, you pick up songs VERY well. i dont know if you do it by ear, but FUCK YOU ARE GOOD.
XXINTL 1 year ago
D'addario makes the chrome strings... and they sound and play smooth.
pmtuneman13 1 year ago
@johnfknking Uh yes I did?!
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
@FeetInTheWater
not exactly, the intro is a bit off to how you tabbed it.
however, you inspired me to really learn how to play guitar :L
i looked at this, and it was too hard so i figured i'd learn some easier songs and come back to it. I can now play this song almost perfectly :) and i'd like to thank you :P
great coverr :)
NeverEatYell0wSn0w 1 year ago
great work man! love the sound of the guitar
BenT992 1 year ago
Thats one very very nice guitar.. i got a richwood but urs sounds better then mine ;o
ventje31 1 year ago
You know there are chrome coated steel strings, they're very good, have same or even better sound, plus, they are smooth and dont have the scratchy sound to em.
But really nice cover :D and tabs are great too!
Thanks (:
trueloverofdarkness 1 year ago
Could you give me a brand for chrome coated strings? I looked around, but couldn't find something. I usually play the 80/20 Bronze Elixir Nanoweb coated. Can't remember what I had on at the time of the video.
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
@FeetInTheWater sorry for the late reply, been busy.
But yeah, i wish i could help with the strings. but i dont know what it is, i just know they have a smooth coat over them and they're nice to play with.
But i can try looking around on the net for you if you'd like?
trueloverofdarkness 1 year ago
@trueloverofdarkness Yeah, would be cool if you could give me a link! :)
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
holy crap man that was good!
how old r u??
bomberbenj316 2 years ago
21.
FeetInTheWater 1 year ago
thanks man for the tab ;] very nice cover ! THANKS! ;)
OLKA04 2 years ago
how much u paid for that takamine ? and yeah i heard they are better than ibanez? is that true ?
1337z0r4 2 years ago
About 250 Euros, used. Guitars in the US are always cheaper though. Never played a Fender acoustic, so no clue on that one.
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
And I ment Ibanez, not Fender. ^^
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
haha np :p
1337z0r4 2 years ago
you play very well man i love this song keep it up ^_^
mosty1995 2 years ago
man whats that guitar reference and brand ? are u using an ampli ?
1337z0r4 2 years ago
Like it says in the video description, it's a Takamine EG530SC. It's used unplugged here, without an amplifier.
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
whats up with the charm bracelet?? faggot
jlawson540 2 years ago
???
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
@jlawson540... fuckin douchebag homophobic motherfucker... (even though this guy isn't gay... his charm bracelet is probably a memento of something.. like most charm bracelets)
1337Roflpancakes 2 years ago
@1337Roflpancakes Haha, thanks for defending! True. It's funny how some people just wanna provoke. Pure enterttainment.
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
I'm a little slow, so i don't get it...how the hell you play???, sorry... well my problem is, i can't see where you put your fingers in the beginning... maybe this isn't good but my Dad tell me, you have a little problem...when you change your fingers you let hear when you change...is just a comment, you play very well even so, I would like you to tell me how you do it because the tabs are strange... thank you.
Yorcont 2 years ago
What is strange about the tabs? Hm. I'm not really sure what your problem is. If you can read tabs, then they should be pretty clear. It's true that you hear the "scratchy" sound when I change chords. Can't help it, it's a fast song. You'll hear it from the best artists and for me it's part of playing the guitar. I've been working on reducing the sound a little, but you never can fully silence it.
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
Hey the rest are easy... BUT i dont get how to strum the chorus! btw tnx for tabs. its good
iJonikz 2 years ago
Wao it was hilarious totally amazing..Love it =D wao Keep growing
Rob24ful 2 years ago
Beautiful =) Good play ^^
ryco93700 2 years ago 4
I NEED a new acoustic guitar. Mines garbage.
Viewer12931 2 years ago 3
And I need a new amp for my electric! :D
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
The capo is sopposed to be on the second fret. But playing with drop D works perfectly good for me. I play it on an electric though. :|
Viewer12931 2 years ago
@Viewer12931 his tabs say that too, guess he didn't want to do that on the video
batteryAAP 2 years ago
I do prefer the Drop D, 1/2 step down version. Gives the song more depth in my opinion, especially played on acoustic. =)
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
Hey man does the rest of the string has to be half step?? i played this with drop d and it kinda sound weird
iJonikz 2 years ago
If you're playing along with the album version, then you need to be in Drop D with a capo in the second fret. If you wanna stay in Drop D, then look for the video at Live at the Palace and play along with that version.
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
omg! that was amazing!
it was perfect! sounded exactly the same if not better!
thanks for the tabs!!!
keeeeep rocking!!! (: <3
Monkeygirl3337 2 years ago
Glad it was helpful! Thanks! =)
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
thx for posting the tabs of it.
if you keep playing like that you will reach the top in a couple of days XD
keep rocking
ChaosEmar 2 years ago
I'm looking forward to the couple of days! Ha! ;)
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
thx for the tabs
ichidori555 2 years ago 13
Can u record Three Days Grace - Lost In You
I reallllllllllllly want to see that
Panhao1206 2 years ago
I wish I could hear your voice more. Good job.
twister411 2 years ago
I don't sing in the vid... my voice sucks.
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
You'll get there. It's all about practice. =)
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
you are great this is better than the original !!!
TheSkatetensor 2 years ago 3
Wow, thank you. You guys make me speechless will all your nice comments.
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
Omg thx so much I was searching 4 a long time then I found this and it took like 15 min 4 me 2 learn it all thx so much!!! Keep it up!
Ch0cothon 2 years ago 2
Awesome! Thank you! =)
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
na warst grad rock im park :)
Elementare8888 2 years ago
Jap. :D Erkennen nicht viele das Armband, hehe. ;)
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
This helps me so much, thx :]
lossofreality 2 years ago
well i just love the begginning
i set it and my alarm clock ringtone
wake up
:)
cheers
am trying to learn it
so damn difficult
1337z0r4 2 years ago
I had it as my alarm clock ringtone for quite a while... then... when I started to hate the song because I had to get up too damn early, I changed it to something else. xD Now I love the song again, haha.
Good luck! Start learning it slooowly. =)
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
are you God?
this is even better than album version
1337z0r4 2 years ago
Don't think I'm God. =P But thank you! What a compliment! haha
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
Awsome man
lee2315 2 years ago 3
wow, great song. great playing, and great tabs.
i could not learn this song for the life of me, until i found you and learned the whole thing in about 20 minutes. thank you, and keep it up!
nemyac 2 years ago 3
@nemyac Thanks a lot!! Glad the vid was helpful!
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
fairly hard intro, but if you practice you'll get it
SasukesMagic 2 years ago
I hope that was directed to people who are learning this song new on guitar? Or directed to me, that I need to practice more to get it right? ^^
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
It should have been directed to the people who are learning this song , you did it Perfect.
And your tabs are amazing , Thank you alot.
TheHeroicDemon 2 years ago 8
Haha, thanks. No problem! Glad the tabs are helpful. =)
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
Lol ?
He plays the intro perfect, and don't say anything agains't it.
Three days grace - Wake up is like my favorite song of them all, and I've heard it 1 000 000 times.
At the moment I'm trying to learn this myself, and its fairly hard.
Well played bud, keep it up.
kurogane1988 2 years ago
Hey, I posted the tabs in the video description. Hope that helps.
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
Amazing , Can't wait for the tabs man
Ive tried to look at the strumming pattern at the intro , but i was like ".......i rather wait for tabs."
and then just watched .45 that you covered xD
Great playing man , you should make your own music!
TheHeroicDemon 2 years ago
Thanks! The tab is available now! I posted the link in the video descripion. =)
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
Hey, thanks for the comment! I hope to post the tabs soon. They're halfway finished, but I haven't had time yet to do the rest of them. Hopefully soon.
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
This is still my favorite, Rici. Acoustic has such a beautiful sound to it. Great work!
Horsesaremyluv94 2 years ago
Thank you a lot! =)
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
a couple of weeks ago you said "i will post the tabs" is already done
ps
nice play
ChaosEmar 2 years ago
Hey, nope sorry. I still haven't come around to do them. They're half finished... I WILL post them soon, really.
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
Hey, I posted the tabs in the video description now! Sorry again that it took so long to get tem done.
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
Please tab it up ! cause all the tabbled versions sucks
636ninjadan 2 years ago
I posted a link to the tabs in the video description! =)
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
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FlyingDolphin87 2 years ago
good man..i like it.!
FlyingDolphin87 2 years ago
Thanks! Glad you enjoy it. =)
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
not bad man)
Ironman2865223816 2 years ago
sodele...schlaf gut...
irgendwie entwickelte sich deine comment-site zu einer art chat :D witzig..hab ich so noch nie gemacht....
vllt liest man sich wieder ;)
Bloodflower84 2 years ago
Jap... lauter sinnloses Zeugs jetzt auf der Seite, also echt. ;) Hab ich vorher auch noch nie gemacht, haha. Man liest sich bestimmt mal wieder. Gute Nacht. ^^
FeetInTheWater 2 years ago
haha....barre ist auf der A ziemlich schwer muss ich sagen :D zumindest auf meiner...auf den E-gitarren dagegen total einfach...
ein freund von mir kauft sich immer so hammer-gitarren....der hat auch videos auf youtube....aber er kann RICHTIG spielen...er ist ein GOTT :D mein vorbild sozusagen hihi
musst mal unter meinen abos nachschauen..er nennt sich "129317381" (einfallsreich, ich weiss :D )..
aber er spielt wirklich klasse gitarre
Bloodflower84 2 years ago