part ll: Also CPR and UP have settled on 130 cars there abouts now for these trains as otherwise they are too long to make meets on the Spokane sub and on the Ayer Sub (Washy) 17,000-18,000 tons is quite common and the heaviest I have been on was 19K. The UP units start at UP 826* something and run up to 8307. One of the mid trains in this video 8306 is the second from the highest on the roster and close to being the last one built.
Lots of comments and speculations about things. As for the bridge and run 8 thing...nope thats BS no such thing. BNSF grain shuttles running 2x1 up high side would never make it otherwise. Yes this train does come from the CPR at Eastport from Saskatchewan and run to Term 5 in Portland, OR. Train is OEOT5 on the UP and train 674 on the CP. These SD90/43MAC's are captive to this NW erea as UP equipped them for canadian leaders when CP gave up the lease on the CEFX SD90/43's 100-139.
This bridge was built in 1972(?) to consolidate several rail lines that ran through downtown Spokane Wa (see video description). It was 2 yrs after the Burlington Northern merger. This was also in preparation for needed land to build the 1974 Worlds Fair.
I want to know where you get your info. These trains come through here in waves of 2 or 3 at a time when the market calls for them. Recently the DPUs have been moved to the rear. As for run 8, they ARE in run 8 - just listen to them roar!
BTW I am an ex-railroader that has been across this bridge, on a train, in run 8, more times than I can count. I will check with people I know who still work on BNSF and UP to get their comments on the subject.
Don't let the camera angle fool you. I was driving home from a day of railfanning when I spotted this train and jumped out of my car, threw the tripod on my trunk, and started filming. The grade is actually less than 1%. The train is probably around 14,000 tons.
Yes, that is very true, you can move so much more on a train at one time than trucks. Just the only problem being is trains cant go everywhere like a truck.
Yep good old Canpotex unit trians I get to see them everyday that train would have originated in my home province of Saskatchewan and would have traveled on the Canadian Pacific to B.C. before being interchanged to the US....Awsome Vid!!!!!!!
Yep thats right usually CP and CEFX AC4400s for headend and midtrain power,always an awsome site to see those units pulling hard, by the time I get to see them they are about 4Km from CP's Regina yards, they then reroute to the Transcontinental mainline and head west the crews will usually change over here or an hour down the line at the Divison point in Moose Jaw, normally there are two trains of empties heading north to the mines in the am and one or two loaded in the afternoon daily..
Potash is an impure form of potassium carbonate. It has been used in the manufacture of glass, soap, and most commonly today, fertilizer. I looked it up on-line.
There is an article in the recent issue of TRAINS magazine that talks about the UP getting rid of a few of the 90MACS. They are of a different design than the majority of the ones they are keeping. About 60 units I believe, are being returned because their parts are NOT interchangeable with standard EMD replacement parts. Also, I believe they have a different prime mover (the motor).
I think those engines now are here in Butler PA, as part of the Buffalo and Pittsburgh RR. The run a lot of ex-UP power. a bunch of 40 and 45 tunnel motors too. I'll check numbers next time I'm at the yard.
It was built in 1972 (I think) to get all the railroads out of downtown Spokane so the Worlds Fair '74 grounds could be constructed on land used for railroad stations. I will post some vids later with other views of it. There is a junction on the other end!
The line this train is on comes to Spokane from a US/Canada border crossing at Eastport Idaho. Several of the trains we see come thru here have CP power on them.
I believe 99% of the postash in North America originates from Saskatchewan so this train is headed to that province via CP Rail through Crowsnest pass. The "Can" in Canpotex actually stands for Canada. This train is guaranteed to be coming off of CPRail.
You are right this trains originates in Sask and runs through to Oregon. CP and UP also have run through trains from Aylth Yard in Calgary Alberta, to Hinkle Yard in Oregon, which they use both CP and UP run-through power.
i have 2 big bags of potash in my garage right now lol. great sounds!
RRYankfan 1 week ago
I'll bet that engineer was nervous as hell
starguard 3 months ago
part ll: Also CPR and UP have settled on 130 cars there abouts now for these trains as otherwise they are too long to make meets on the Spokane sub and on the Ayer Sub (Washy) 17,000-18,000 tons is quite common and the heaviest I have been on was 19K. The UP units start at UP 826* something and run up to 8307. One of the mid trains in this video 8306 is the second from the highest on the roster and close to being the last one built.
Brett
tator05 11 months ago
Steve,
Lots of comments and speculations about things. As for the bridge and run 8 thing...nope thats BS no such thing. BNSF grain shuttles running 2x1 up high side would never make it otherwise. Yes this train does come from the CPR at Eastport from Saskatchewan and run to Term 5 in Portland, OR. Train is OEOT5 on the UP and train 674 on the CP. These SD90/43MAC's are captive to this NW erea as UP equipped them for canadian leaders when CP gave up the lease on the CEFX SD90/43's 100-139.
tator05 11 months ago
I like this video. I like it so much, I subscribed to your videos. Wow, mid train helpers! (I'm watching while I type).
Where is that bridge, it looks too new. Did it replace a previous steel bridge?
AviationMetalSmith 1 year ago
This bridge was built in 1972(?) to consolidate several rail lines that ran through downtown Spokane Wa (see video description). It was 2 yrs after the Burlington Northern merger. This was also in preparation for needed land to build the 1974 Worlds Fair.
wesolint 1 year ago
WOW , that was cool ... how many hoppers was it pulling ? ... did you count them (lol) ? ... seriously though, i really wanna know. =]
TheDarkone1111 1 year ago
The average number of cars on this train is 125. They now run the DPU on the rear instead of mid-train.
wesolint 1 year ago
@wesolint They still run helpers mid-train on occasion. I saw a UP train with mid-train helpers about a month ago.
KJamesMellick 1 year ago
I See this train twice a week
CSX1123 1 year ago
We see these on occasion in Spokane. Not real common, but I do see middle helpers once in a while.
BTW, they are not at run 8. only notch 4 or 5 is allowed on this bridge till a train has crossed it because of cracking in the Cor-ten steel.
KJamesMellick 1 year ago
I want to know where you get your info. These trains come through here in waves of 2 or 3 at a time when the market calls for them. Recently the DPUs have been moved to the rear. As for run 8, they ARE in run 8 - just listen to them roar!
BTW I am an ex-railroader that has been across this bridge, on a train, in run 8, more times than I can count. I will check with people I know who still work on BNSF and UP to get their comments on the subject.
wesolint 1 year ago 2
all sd90macs!!!!
Guilford88panam 2 years ago 2
See these rolling through Calgary all the time ,but never at full throttle,this video is one of my favorites
happyhappycatt 2 years ago
different with the helpers being right in the middle
ParanormalStateRocks 3 years ago
These trains commonly reach 18000 tonnes and may weigh up to 19000 at an extreme.
Jordo133 3 years ago
Nice video. I'll bet this thing started out right in Saskatoon here.
PunkyBear36 3 years ago
I'm not sure where they come from. You're probably right.
wesolint 3 years ago
hey see it some times when I go to the columbea basen
yamaha789 3 years ago
i wish they put it on run8 run8 run8 earlyer
RRYankfan 3 years ago
What a great place to get train videos.
petro062 3 years ago
Lots of rail action in and around Spokane. ;o)
wesolint 3 years ago
Are those manned-helpers or DPUs?
railroadradio 3 years ago
DPU
wesolint 3 years ago
no there remote controlled
iggyjill 3 years ago
I see these cars all the time in Portland. What exactly is potash?
hawkeystud 3 years ago
See Wikipedia definition on the web. It's used in the manufacture of glass, soap, and fertilizer.
wesolint 3 years ago
these unit drags are so cool...that's a lot of grain in this one...
jdawgsworld 3 years ago
Actually these cars are full of potash. Still cool to see.
wesolint 3 years ago
oh...in houston, tx a lot of them end up hauling plastic pellets...
jdawgsworld 3 years ago
You can't really tell from this vid, but the hoppers are only about the size of a two bay cement hopper even though they have three bays.
wesolint 3 years ago
thats steep!
railmogul2 3 years ago
Don't let the camera angle fool you. I was driving home from a day of railfanning when I spotted this train and jumped out of my car, threw the tripod on my trunk, and started filming. The grade is actually less than 1%. The train is probably around 14,000 tons.
wesolint 3 years ago
Man that is some serious power, I love the part when the helpers roll through...wow!
MadDog31a 4 years ago
I can only imagine how much fuel those are using pushing and pulling that heavy load!
xxch4osxx 4 years ago 4
Still pound for pound less than trucking it would use. But yeah, a LOT I'm sure. That's some serious horsepower.
thenekom 3 years ago 2
Yes, that is very true, you can move so much more on a train at one time than trucks. Just the only problem being is trains cant go everywhere like a truck.
xxch4osxx 3 years ago 2
Yep good old Canpotex unit trians I get to see them everyday that train would have originated in my home province of Saskatchewan and would have traveled on the Canadian Pacific to B.C. before being interchanged to the US....Awsome Vid!!!!!!!
rainman29 4 years ago
Thanks for the info. This train is exchanged at Eastport Idaho. We get lots of trains coming down & returning with CP & CEFX power.
wesolint 4 years ago
Yep thats right usually CP and CEFX AC4400s for headend and midtrain power,always an awsome site to see those units pulling hard, by the time I get to see them they are about 4Km from CP's Regina yards, they then reroute to the Transcontinental mainline and head west the crews will usually change over here or an hour down the line at the Divison point in Moose Jaw, normally there are two trains of empties heading north to the mines in the am and one or two loaded in the afternoon daily..
rainman29 4 years ago
Cool, thanks.
wesolint 4 years ago
I live in regina near Pinkie where abouts do you live
iggyjill 4 years ago
In Regina on Regina Ave near the Ledgeislature building......
rainman29 4 years ago
what is potash? I would really to know what its used for, making steel?
jschmid 4 years ago
Potash is an impure form of potassium carbonate. It has been used in the manufacture of glass, soap, and most commonly today, fertilizer. I looked it up on-line.
wesolint 4 years ago
that is amazing. Those steel wheels are just gripping the rail like its a rack and pinion... thats some serious power
spencermcgrew 4 years ago
Went down to the B&P yard... there were two of them there, 8527 was running and 8531 was parked on a side track with an SD45.
kleetus92 4 years ago
There is an article in the recent issue of TRAINS magazine that talks about the UP getting rid of a few of the 90MACS. They are of a different design than the majority of the ones they are keeping. About 60 units I believe, are being returned because their parts are NOT interchangeable with standard EMD replacement parts. Also, I believe they have a different prime mover (the motor).
wesolint 4 years ago
I read that the 90MAC's have water jacket separation problems with the prime movers.
xxch4osxx 4 years ago
WOULD YOU JUST LISTEN TO THOSE EMDS PULL THAT HILL!?!?!?!
Hot Damn!
Hiei2k7 4 years ago
Actually thats run 6. On the SD70's and SD90's the engines rev up like that for a few minutes then the rpm go back down to notch six level.
roundhouser 4 years ago
What's the throttle position?
wesolint 4 years ago
I did get a kick out of "Run 8"
DANGER DANGER Extreme HP output ahead...
I think those engines now are here in Butler PA, as part of the Buffalo and Pittsburgh RR. The run a lot of ex-UP power. a bunch of 40 and 45 tunnel motors too. I'll check numbers next time I'm at the yard.
kleetus92 4 years ago
I don't think the UP has given up their 90MACs yet. I see them everyday.
wesolint 4 years ago
Maybe not all of them, but at least some. They have some of their tunnel motors too... If I can get there in daylight, I'll post the #'s
kleetus92 4 years ago
I have always wanted to see a train on that bridge. Nice catch.
mafarnz 4 years ago
It was built in 1972 (I think) to get all the railroads out of downtown Spokane so the Worlds Fair '74 grounds could be constructed on land used for railroad stations. I will post some vids later with other views of it. There is a junction on the other end!
wesolint 4 years ago
the Run 8 part was the best. thanks for sharing, these are the train videos i look for on youtube
SpecificationR 4 years ago
You're welcome!
wesolint 4 years ago
By the way, did you watch my "BNSF coal on the UP" vid? Extreme close up!
wesolint 4 years ago
Say, what are the chances this train came off the CP?
zartok35 4 years ago
The line this train is on comes to Spokane from a US/Canada border crossing at Eastport Idaho. Several of the trains we see come thru here have CP power on them.
wesolint 4 years ago
I believe 99% of the postash in North America originates from Saskatchewan so this train is headed to that province via CP Rail through Crowsnest pass. The "Can" in Canpotex actually stands for Canada. This train is guaranteed to be coming off of CPRail.
ABALLAM3 4 years ago
You are right this trains originates in Sask and runs through to Oregon. CP and UP also have run through trains from Aylth Yard in Calgary Alberta, to Hinkle Yard in Oregon, which they use both CP and UP run-through power.
CPRailConductor 4 years ago
Thanks for the info!
wesolint 4 years ago
Super video.
bechho 4 years ago
Awesome Canpotex train, I should have been there.
rdw283 4 years ago
Yeah, you shoulda.
wesolint 4 years ago