DEMOCRATS = may lie, cheat, and steal, just like anybody else
REPUBLICANS = lie, cheat, and steal, because it's their way of life. They also consider their opinions - fact. And rely on conjecture as truth.
Here's some truth: cut funding to all social programs that include 'minorities' (as Repugs view them) and you'll be left with...??? A: a majority of disenfranchised poor White constituents - and what will that party call themselves, and what will their political bent be?
MOST NOTABLE is that "voter registration fraud" is NOT the same thing as "voter fraud." There are very, very, very few cases of voter fraud. And no lame "registrations" have turned into actual fraudulent "votes."
It's so clear that the right-wing spin on this is far off. ACORN had some bad employees who worked the system, just as our corporate elite do every day. That's it. ACORN was not "conducting" voter registration fraud. Some employees were. ACORN reported it, by the way.
ANTIPOLO City Philippines: Tension arose in this city after the discovery of 65 Precinct Count Optical Scan (PCOS) machines stacked in a house in Antipolo City raised speculation of a massive cheating by rival mayoral candidates.
Supporters of mayoral candidates Nilo Leyble and Rep. Lito Gatlabayan trooped to the house of Smartmatic technician Felipe de Leon in Carigma Extension, Tanag, Antipolo City, after rumors spread that the poll machines were brought there. Cheating in Philippines
Apparently 12 of Obamas campaign staff withdrew their illegal registrations and votes after being notified of a criminal investigation. Joi Bass Joye Purser Tom Reynolds Sebastian Cervantes Lucy Boyle Stephanie Lake Olivia Alair Lucas Fleischer Michelle Duff Amy Crawford James Cadogan Issa Abdulcadir Palestra. net
What an idtiot DEkode, I don't care who is braodcasting this you dork! This is really bad. Check out CNN's coverage. It's pretty darn similar and I bet you wouldn't call them republican. The point here is that our elections are becoming a sham. We the people deserve the politicians we get. Ill take an honest vote against my beliefs any day over a fraudulent one for my beliefs!
Its not newsworthy that our president is not the one we voted for? Voter fraud is pretty important. Im wondering why it was not more reported, and I now believe that the other networks are oin the White House pocket. I voted for Obama. Im just very disappointed in him in many ways. The jobless rate is higher. He is not honest. he really is playing the race card as often as OJ Simpson. He is working to divide this country. Not unite it. I don't know.
You should check your reading comprehension skills. I was saying that this *is* newsworthy and making a statement that more news agencies should have covered this.
After the New Mexico Republican Party claimed that fraudulent voters, registered by ACORN, participated in the June 2008 primary, ACORN contacted some of the voters Republicans said were bogus. The voters that the Republicans named were quickly reached Thursday night. All are eligible first-time voters. Their legitimacy was confirmed by the Bernalillo County Clerk. All expressed outrage that the Republican Party is targeting them. So much for the alleged 'voter registration fraud'.
McCain attended an ACORN event in 2006. "Leaders from a diverse array of sectors will hold a rally in Miami on 2-23-06...The rally will feature Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) as the headline speaker along with elected officials...The rally in Miami is being sponsored by the New American Opportunity campaign (NAOC) in partnership with ACORN, ...A similar rally with Sen. McCain is planned for New York City on 2-27-06" This is all documented.
Moonsaturn, you are intellectually dishonest. This is wrong. This guy is an idiot. But ACORN needs to be regulated closer. They are necessary but when held unaacountable some people are going to do what they can to make an extra buck. It's not right!
ACORN and the ACLU both need to be shut down forever. These are racial programs that are taking over. These programs were initially established to help people and now they are taking over American citizens rights and freedoms.
The same can be said about any org started in a good humane sense. once money and power come in it's all over. There goals become there bargining points for more of the money and power they crave. Examples PETA, our government, ACORN etc.
yep they have gay rights, black rights, womand rights, disabled rights, trans-gender rights, jewish ADL ... why cant we all just have our god given rights ? why do different factions get special treatment ?
i know the people are equal, but if the *rights* are different how does that make us one ? it used to be that all people had God given unalienable rights . these new rights are impeding on our God given rights thus creating inequality .
the power of the vote does not work when the majority is brainwashed or dumb ! our republic had check and balances so why wont they use it to put lackeys in jail ?
More regulation is not an answer. We need less government and more companies creating more and more business. IT needs to be promoted rather than apologized for. The more business America has the more and better jobs we will all have to pick from instead of stand in line for.
The problem is this; Was the White House involved? Obama was tight with Acorn. I don't think Acorn threw voted to McCain. It has nothing to do with money.
You know what, this witness is lying! Any psychologist with masters can see through this. For one thing, this witness is not the homeless or drug-addicted ACORN employee. He is an unknown person to everyone here. He may not even smoke cigarettes; he may have a job; be a student; live at home. Nobody forced him by gun to sign, nobody beat him up to sign. He could have walked away. Why didn't he? He is not the homeless one; he is the plant behind a conspiracy to smear the ACORN.
Smith quote, "And how do they keep this kid quiet rather than him run to the Obama media and become a 'star'?" Why do you assume everyone wants to be a 'star'? A homeless junkie wanting for drugs wants to be a star? If employee accepts the bribe, why would he want the media to know that? Perhaps he prefers the money over being a star. Perhaps he knows he won't get money from the media without the proof of a bribe, so he might as well take the bribe for it's quicker to get the money that way.
"Republicans paying this guy to take money from an ACORN person who persists that person to keep registering?" ?? The object is not to pay them to take money from ACORN.? The object is to give the ACORN employee more money [as a side job] to DO the begging and fraudulent registrations! Like having 2 jobs; the employee will get his ACORN salary and a 'salary' from the bribe. It's a very plausible theory!
Smith, why is it a known fact to you? Is it because you've watched it on tv news; on youtube videos of witnesses [who may or may not bet telling the truth]; read opinions of other on blogs? Have you actually witnessed an ACORN employee "begging from the same person"? Have you actually seen the "fraudulent" registration voter forms? I don't understand why it is a 'fact' to you? Do you believe only what you choose to believe from watching the news?
#1 My theory: We've learned ACORN hires homeless & drug-addicted people off streets; they need to meet a quota to get paid. Some don't care that they are working for an organization that endorses Obama; some have conservative views & may silently prefer McCain; some dont care who wins the election. All of them NEED money! Since they ARE in need of money, it is very conceivable unscrupulous people are approaching them with bribes. Continue to #2.
That should disqualify ACORN as being anywhere CLOSE to being a part of the election process if they aren't adhering to any type of standards in hiring/interning people to run their Obama errr... Registration drives.
#2 Thinking about the various angles; it doesnt make sense for die-hard Dems not working for ACORN to bribe coz Dems already know ACORN is out there to get the other Dems to register. Perhaps die-hard Republican campaigners are approaching them with lots of quick, easy money to submit fraudulent registration voter forms, as well as giving them a sizeable amt. of money to tell investigators that ACORN told them to do this! Conclusion: People will do anything if they are in need of quick money.
Its a known fact ACORNs registration drives are like prostitution. The person begs for registrations from the same person in exhange for something else, cigarettes/a dollar/(insert other disgusting things here). Republicans paying this guy to take money from an ACORN person who persists that person to keep registering?
And how do they keep this kid quiet rather than him run to the Obama media and become a "star"?
Is ACORN going to be charged with fraud and shut down now that they have been found out?
If ACORN is guilty of fraud, then authorities have plenty of time to seize their fraudulant registration forms and shut down operations prior to the election. That being the case, then there shouldn't be a problem with the election results, Right?
If ACORN is not shut down and their registration forms are not seized prior to the upcoming election, then one can only conclude they committed no crime.
This IS voter fraud. Once they're registered multiple times, they bus people to different polling places to vote multiple times! There are many states that don't require IDs so people can vote more than once. Obama's campaign bused people across state lines in the Democratic primary to vote multiple times and intimidated people at the caucuses - it's an outrage!
This is voter registration fraud, not voter fraud. Even if this person registers 100 times he can only vote once. He has just filled out 100 cards, maybe. There is no advantage to obvious voter registration fraud, unless the end result is to throw out the voters on the fraudulent forms OR to raise questions about legitrimate voters, citing the bad registrations as proof of wrongdoing.
Now what party is always channeling voters at the polls and trying to disenfranchise them?
Ohio says they dont have the ability to even determine which are real and which are phoney. Thus creating a fraud by numbers. How many of these will get through the registration process because there isnt enough people to cross reference the amount of registrations that get through? Dont act like this is some sort of innocent pathetic sob story of ACORN employees just trying to get paid by registration. This is a coordinated effort across the swing states meant to create mass fraud.
You just proved my point! Thanks! Since it makes no sense for the Democrats to want to disenfranchise the newly registered voters who would likely vote for Senator Obama, then the only other possibility is that the GOP wants to have all of ACORN registrations thrown out and thereby try to swing the election in their favor. Now it begs the question that maybe the GOP planted workers to fill out forms so badly that anyone could spot the forgeries. Your argument makes the picture much clearer.
No. Its Brunner trying to force a legal nightmare for our country by forcing this on the state because of her lack to do her duty as Secretary of State.
It's ACORN trying to manufacture "disenfranchisement" by regustration fraud. Nice try to alter my argument.
Does that mean that all the ACORN registrations will be allowed by the S of S? If disallowed, then the GOP wins. If allowed, then the registrant would have to come up with identification in order to vote. Anyone trying to vote 71 times at the same place would be noticed. Or did he give 71 addresses in 71 different precincts. Even with help, that is a daunting task. If he did try to vote 71 times and was challenged each time, that would really make the lines long. Who benefits?
subducid, get a clue. ACORN registers these people and takes them by the busload to get absentee ballots. If they are willing to register multiple times for a cigarette, how much do you think it costs the ACORN workers to buy their ballots. They might not get all 73 votes counted, but hundreds of thousands, if not millions will be counted. That's the problem with letting a candidate raise unlimited funds. They can buy a lot of votes.
But people need to remember Acorn was never involved in any voter fraud, not a single illegal vote was cast because of Acorn's positive efforts.
tnoyy34rt 5 months ago
/watch?v=68SX9UgrV10
DEMOCRATS = may lie, cheat, and steal, just like anybody else
REPUBLICANS = lie, cheat, and steal, because it's their way of life. They also consider their opinions - fact. And rely on conjecture as truth.
Here's some truth: cut funding to all social programs that include 'minorities' (as Repugs view them) and you'll be left with...??? A: a majority of disenfranchised poor White constituents - and what will that party call themselves, and what will their political bent be?
milackk7 10 months ago
wait...the NAACP says voter fraud does not exist. (?)
cactuschris2002 1 year ago
MOST NOTABLE is that "voter registration fraud" is NOT the same thing as "voter fraud." There are very, very, very few cases of voter fraud. And no lame "registrations" have turned into actual fraudulent "votes."
It's so clear that the right-wing spin on this is far off. ACORN had some bad employees who worked the system, just as our corporate elite do every day. That's it. ACORN was not "conducting" voter registration fraud. Some employees were. ACORN reported it, by the way.
demmmmm1 1 year ago
@demmmmm1 how do you know that?. You cannot prove how much voter fraud there is or isn't, and you know it.
cactuschris2002 1 year ago
ANTIPOLO City Philippines: Tension arose in this city after the discovery of 65 Precinct Count Optical Scan (PCOS) machines stacked in a house in Antipolo City raised speculation of a massive cheating by rival mayoral candidates.
Supporters of mayoral candidates Nilo Leyble and Rep. Lito Gatlabayan trooped to the house of Smartmatic technician Felipe de Leon in Carigma Extension, Tanag, Antipolo City, after rumors spread that the poll machines were brought there. Cheating in Philippines
vitalityron03 1 year ago
We had acron poll workers at our last election , we beat them up ! and told them we would lynch them! they never came back!
irishsean2 2 years ago
A genius speaks. [/sarcasm]
SyvetheShairks 2 years ago
It has EVERYTHING to do with money. It is a WEB of different organizations and donors. A HUGE money shuffle. lollipop...you need to pay attention
pieceomeat 2 years ago 2
Get PAID first before the country.
endoftimeisnear 3 years ago
This moron should be arrested too. He had to have known he was committing a crime by registering 73 times! He's just playing dumb.
rwbamerican 3 years ago
Schemefighter 3 years ago 3
where did u get this information? do u have a link?
ruddip 2 years ago
Look what news company is broadcasting this. FOX=REPLUBICANS!
DekodeOne 3 years ago
What an idtiot DEkode, I don't care who is braodcasting this you dork! This is really bad. Check out CNN's coverage. It's pretty darn similar and I bet you wouldn't call them republican. The point here is that our elections are becoming a sham. We the people deserve the politicians we get. Ill take an honest vote against my beliefs any day over a fraudulent one for my beliefs!
Badgerlove7076 3 years ago 5
Yeah, do you ever wonder why the other news agencies DON'T broadcast things like this?
Is this not "newsworthy"?
lifeasahandbag 2 years ago 6
Its not newsworthy that our president is not the one we voted for? Voter fraud is pretty important. Im wondering why it was not more reported, and I now believe that the other networks are oin the White House pocket. I voted for Obama. Im just very disappointed in him in many ways. The jobless rate is higher. He is not honest. he really is playing the race card as often as OJ Simpson. He is working to divide this country. Not unite it. I don't know.
lollipopfop 2 years ago 2
You should check your reading comprehension skills. I was saying that this *is* newsworthy and making a statement that more news agencies should have covered this.
lifeasahandbag 2 years ago 2
After the New Mexico Republican Party claimed that fraudulent voters, registered by ACORN, participated in the June 2008 primary, ACORN contacted some of the voters Republicans said were bogus. The voters that the Republicans named were quickly reached Thursday night. All are eligible first-time voters. Their legitimacy was confirmed by the Bernalillo County Clerk. All expressed outrage that the Republican Party is targeting them. So much for the alleged 'voter registration fraud'.
chimphunter 3 years ago
Just remember the republicans... FLORIDA,OHIO
zack7787 3 years ago
McCain attended an ACORN event in 2006. "Leaders from a diverse array of sectors will hold a rally in Miami on 2-23-06...The rally will feature Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) as the headline speaker along with elected officials...The rally in Miami is being sponsored by the New American Opportunity campaign (NAOC) in partnership with ACORN, ...A similar rally with Sen. McCain is planned for New York City on 2-27-06" This is all documented.
moononsaturn 3 years ago
Moonsaturn, you are intellectually dishonest. This is wrong. This guy is an idiot. But ACORN needs to be regulated closer. They are necessary but when held unaacountable some people are going to do what they can to make an extra buck. It's not right!
Badgerlove7076 3 years ago 2
ACORN and the ACLU both need to be shut down forever. These are racial programs that are taking over. These programs were initially established to help people and now they are taking over American citizens rights and freedoms.
TheNewVideo 2 years ago 6
The same can be said about any org started in a good humane sense. once money and power come in it's all over. There goals become there bargining points for more of the money and power they crave. Examples PETA, our government, ACORN etc.
jsh78mang 2 years ago
yep they have gay rights, black rights, womand rights, disabled rights, trans-gender rights, jewish ADL ... why cant we all just have our god given rights ? why do different factions get special treatment ?
stonerj0e 2 years ago
Exactly, we are all one. USA !!!!
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
i know the people are equal, but if the *rights* are different how does that make us one ? it used to be that all people had God given unalienable rights . these new rights are impeding on our God given rights thus creating inequality .
stonerj0e 2 years ago
Have to use the power of the vote correctly. Last November was not a correct vote. It was full deception.
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
the power of the vote does not work when the majority is brainwashed or dumb ! our republic had check and balances so why wont they use it to put lackeys in jail ?
stonerj0e 2 years ago
When Democrats, who are now in the majority in our government, wish to change everything about America, only their laws apply.
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
right on ! but i do hope we can agree that usa is a republic . -peace-
stonerj0e 2 years ago
Republic of the USA !!!!
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
More regulation is not an answer. We need less government and more companies creating more and more business. IT needs to be promoted rather than apologized for. The more business America has the more and better jobs we will all have to pick from instead of stand in line for.
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
The problem is this; Was the White House involved? Obama was tight with Acorn. I don't think Acorn threw voted to McCain. It has nothing to do with money.
lollipopfop 2 years ago
You know what, this witness is lying! Any psychologist with masters can see through this. For one thing, this witness is not the homeless or drug-addicted ACORN employee. He is an unknown person to everyone here. He may not even smoke cigarettes; he may have a job; be a student; live at home. Nobody forced him by gun to sign, nobody beat him up to sign. He could have walked away. Why didn't he? He is not the homeless one; he is the plant behind a conspiracy to smear the ACORN.
moononsaturn 3 years ago
Smith quote, "And how do they keep this kid quiet rather than him run to the Obama media and become a 'star'?" Why do you assume everyone wants to be a 'star'? A homeless junkie wanting for drugs wants to be a star? If employee accepts the bribe, why would he want the media to know that? Perhaps he prefers the money over being a star. Perhaps he knows he won't get money from the media without the proof of a bribe, so he might as well take the bribe for it's quicker to get the money that way.
moononsaturn 3 years ago
"Republicans paying this guy to take money from an ACORN person who persists that person to keep registering?" ?? The object is not to pay them to take money from ACORN.? The object is to give the ACORN employee more money [as a side job] to DO the begging and fraudulent registrations! Like having 2 jobs; the employee will get his ACORN salary and a 'salary' from the bribe. It's a very plausible theory!
moononsaturn 3 years ago
Smith, why is it a known fact to you? Is it because you've watched it on tv news; on youtube videos of witnesses [who may or may not bet telling the truth]; read opinions of other on blogs? Have you actually witnessed an ACORN employee "begging from the same person"? Have you actually seen the "fraudulent" registration voter forms? I don't understand why it is a 'fact' to you? Do you believe only what you choose to believe from watching the news?
moononsaturn 3 years ago
#3 It is also conceivable that the witnesses are being approached and bribed as well. [refer to #1 & #2 below]
moononsaturn 3 years ago
#1 My theory: We've learned ACORN hires homeless & drug-addicted people off streets; they need to meet a quota to get paid. Some don't care that they are working for an organization that endorses Obama; some have conservative views & may silently prefer McCain; some dont care who wins the election. All of them NEED money! Since they ARE in need of money, it is very conceivable unscrupulous people are approaching them with bribes. Continue to #2.
moononsaturn 3 years ago
That should disqualify ACORN as being anywhere CLOSE to being a part of the election process if they aren't adhering to any type of standards in hiring/interning people to run their Obama errr... Registration drives.
smith288 3 years ago
#2 Thinking about the various angles; it doesnt make sense for die-hard Dems not working for ACORN to bribe coz Dems already know ACORN is out there to get the other Dems to register. Perhaps die-hard Republican campaigners are approaching them with lots of quick, easy money to submit fraudulent registration voter forms, as well as giving them a sizeable amt. of money to tell investigators that ACORN told them to do this! Conclusion: People will do anything if they are in need of quick money.
moononsaturn 3 years ago
Its a known fact ACORNs registration drives are like prostitution. The person begs for registrations from the same person in exhange for something else, cigarettes/a dollar/(insert other disgusting things here). Republicans paying this guy to take money from an ACORN person who persists that person to keep registering?
And how do they keep this kid quiet rather than him run to the Obama media and become a "star"?
smith288 3 years ago
Is ACORN going to be charged with fraud and shut down now that they have been found out?
If ACORN is guilty of fraud, then authorities have plenty of time to seize their fraudulant registration forms and shut down operations prior to the election. That being the case, then there shouldn't be a problem with the election results, Right?
If ACORN is not shut down and their registration forms are not seized prior to the upcoming election, then one can only conclude they committed no crime.
NomadicAddict 3 years ago
This guy is hiding something. I wonder why he would talk so openly about this. It doesn't pass the smell test to me.
KCSteak 3 years ago
I guess there are WAY fewer newly registered Democrats than we've been told.
eksdem 3 years ago
It is incredible the depth to which democrats sink to rig the vote. Where is the media outrage?
citizenintime 3 years ago
come on man the media is in the tank for Obama I dont watch anything but Fox news anymore
THE74MALDITO 3 years ago
This IS voter fraud. Once they're registered multiple times, they bus people to different polling places to vote multiple times! There are many states that don't require IDs so people can vote more than once. Obama's campaign bused people across state lines in the Democratic primary to vote multiple times and intimidated people at the caucuses - it's an outrage!
littlepiddle2 3 years ago
What state line? Cite source, please?
subducid 3 years ago
This is voter registration fraud, not voter fraud. Even if this person registers 100 times he can only vote once. He has just filled out 100 cards, maybe. There is no advantage to obvious voter registration fraud, unless the end result is to throw out the voters on the fraudulent forms OR to raise questions about legitrimate voters, citing the bad registrations as proof of wrongdoing.
Now what party is always channeling voters at the polls and trying to disenfranchise them?
Hummm.....
subducid 3 years ago
Ohio says they dont have the ability to even determine which are real and which are phoney. Thus creating a fraud by numbers. How many of these will get through the registration process because there isnt enough people to cross reference the amount of registrations that get through? Dont act like this is some sort of innocent pathetic sob story of ACORN employees just trying to get paid by registration. This is a coordinated effort across the swing states meant to create mass fraud.
smith288 3 years ago
You just proved my point! Thanks! Since it makes no sense for the Democrats to want to disenfranchise the newly registered voters who would likely vote for Senator Obama, then the only other possibility is that the GOP wants to have all of ACORN registrations thrown out and thereby try to swing the election in their favor. Now it begs the question that maybe the GOP planted workers to fill out forms so badly that anyone could spot the forgeries. Your argument makes the picture much clearer.
subducid 3 years ago
No. Its Brunner trying to force a legal nightmare for our country by forcing this on the state because of her lack to do her duty as Secretary of State.
It's ACORN trying to manufacture "disenfranchisement" by regustration fraud. Nice try to alter my argument.
smith288 3 years ago
Does that mean that all the ACORN registrations will be allowed by the S of S? If disallowed, then the GOP wins. If allowed, then the registrant would have to come up with identification in order to vote. Anyone trying to vote 71 times at the same place would be noticed. Or did he give 71 addresses in 71 different precincts. Even with help, that is a daunting task. If he did try to vote 71 times and was challenged each time, that would really make the lines long. Who benefits?
subducid 3 years ago
subducid, get a clue. ACORN registers these people and takes them by the busload to get absentee ballots. If they are willing to register multiple times for a cigarette, how much do you think it costs the ACORN workers to buy their ballots. They might not get all 73 votes counted, but hundreds of thousands, if not millions will be counted. That's the problem with letting a candidate raise unlimited funds. They can buy a lot of votes.
HateMichelleO 3 years ago 4