To Nathan
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From: SybilSilverPhoenix
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  • after 4 mins u talk about god saying lets make humans in our image and you go onto say he is talking to other gods when if u wer educated to the level of a highschooler you would know he was talking to the angels that he had made after the rebellion and banishment of lucifer. if your going to critisize the bible at least do it right

  • @porkfillets Then why was God talking to the Angels as equals? I thought their only role, their sole purpose of being created, was to serve God. That does not imply that they and God are equal.

  • go home and play with Moral Orel?, don't rag on that show man that show actually turned me christian

  • What does Moral Orel have to do with this? I don't recall talking about that show in this video at all.

    And that show turned you Christian? That show was made to poke fun at the dogmatic structure of Christian Belief. It does have some wonderful character development though (one of the reasons why I really enjoy the show myself... yes I like watching Moral Orel cuz I find it funny and insightful ;] )

  • Sorry but this was one of the worse videos debunking Christianity.

    Even the Pagan Gods used humans as stand ins to write some sacred text in some religions.

  • Did you not listen? I said ALL GODS ARE MAN-MADE, Belief is Personal and should never be argued about. I made my point clearly, so I don't know what you are trying to get at here unless you are a troll.

    This video was made to remind a certain individual of the Man-made factor in his own faith, though he never listens... Oh well, you can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink :/

  • um..you do realize in the description you put this "Faith is Personal and cannot be proven or disproven"...making this video a bit pointless...

    oh and..haha you said troll?...

    i still hate stupid people...

  • I agree when you say there is no right way. I honestly believe we're all going to the same place just on different routes. The people who attack pagans constantly have something personal against them. Has nothing to do with spirituality or religion. Blessed Be

  • It can be about religion. Especially if one was brainwashed-err... indoctrinated from birth to believe a certain way. Those types can get very hostile if their worldview is challenged.

    And then there are the ones who take it personally and seek vengeance for whatever reason.

  • oh ha ha ha ha. Get real lady. I sense fear in you while you speak.

  • Fear? Huh? I felt frustrated not fearful. Why would I be fearful? Because I said something you didn't like and you believe your invisible sky-daddy is going to burn me for all time? Whatever :/

  • You are indeed afraid of what God will do to you, in the sense if you actually have doubts of his existence. I hear the quiver in your voice when you made your video.

  • LOL!!! Your assumption is funny =P

    I fear not your god. You just don't like what I had to say =D

  • @SybilSilverPhoenix At 0:32 you have mentioned "a video curse". What is that? Who is this "Nathan"? Is this someone who has sock accounts under various monikers and then uses his/her talent in abusing others? Do they malign others through libel, slander, and defamation of character? Do they threaten, harass, or selfishly manipulate others? I stumbled on your video and you managed to raise some questions about this "nathan" or whoever. Very interesting. Thank you for your time.

  • Sybil I like what you did with the pen. They are JUST WORDS on a piece of paper. Belief is in the heart and should not be used as a tool for hatred. Words are powerful and can be either used as good or hate.

    )O( Blessed Be!!!!

  • Yes, words have power. They can Hurt or Heal, they can calm or enrage, they can inspire or oppress, they can do much.

    We just have to be mindful of how we use these words ;)

  • Well thanks for being nice at least I can say that much. You also are free to have your own beliefs . God was talking to Jesus BTW-his Son.

    You will not accept it fine then you will not enter in heaven.

  • Jesus said 'Our Father...' not 'My Father...' He spoke of all of us as being the 'Children of God'.

    Look I believe in a Higher Power, just like you. However, I believe IT has no form or Gender or anything else 'physical'. To me the Universe, including us, is IT's 'Body' so to speak. Plus I don't believe anyone's 'way' is the right 'way' for everyone. We all will find our way to the Divine, but we all take different roads getting there.

    If my faith and love in the Divine isn't enough... what is?

  • LOL ... well said! But id like to say this, I will not worship that pen or the pen of any other man or woman....words ARE very powerful and those words said and how they are used can be very powerful and can create action and reaction. Nathan and anyone else for that matter wishing to use Hate speech and preaching their beliefs onto others especially flagging and trying to suspend the pagans here on YT is wrong!

    Tyranny is Hate! Nathan will someday meet His maker, what will he do then? cower?

  • I gave it so I expect the same.

  • You reap what you sow =)

  • I'm curious, you do believe in gods, right? I wonder what your conception of the gods is. All in our minds?

    Anyway, like this video.

  • I will discuss Gods and their nature, as I see it, in a future video for this is a topic that will take more than 500 letters to talk about.

    A summary, though poor, is this:

    The Divine Essence, Power, whatever, is beyond us and in our quest to connect with IT we created Gods to bridge that gap. I believe they do exist in the Mind and in the Spirit. They are a collection of a cultures hopes, dreams, emotions, fears, etc. They are Sentient Thought forms that will exist as long as there are people.

  • Very interesting way of looking at it! Sort of reminds me of chaos magic, in that the Caites believe a god is something that requires or belief/ energy to exist and may, in return for that energy offer people something.

  • Kinda like that =)

    It's the only thing that makes sense to me. If there was only one god then that god would be known as the same throughout all Human cultures. There'd be no differences, but this isn't what we see... Every culture has its own way of looking at the Divine whether it is will one god or several. I just find it ridiculous to argue over whose god is better and whose is 'real'. Not many would agree with me either =/

  • Nice video but I just want to say that Christians are entitled to their beliefs just as we Pagans are entitled to ours. Nathan is a poor example of what a Christian should act like, at least that is how he presents himself on YouTube.

  • I know =)

    It's just I've sitting back watching the craziness unfold and I am at my breaking point. I am just tired of Nathan's shenanigans. So this is more a Rant to release frustration than anything.

  • Yes, it is crazy. He said he's leaving YouTube but I don't know if that's really going to happen at all. We'll see I guess.

  • The Hebrew word used in Gen. 1 that is translated 'God' is Elohim. The 'im' ending is a compound plural ending. It could best be translated as 'the gods' or 'the pantheon'. It is a different word than Gen. 2 which is 'Yahweh'. This word is singular. Yahweh is the god of the Hebrews and the Christians. He is one of the Elohim (gods). Or at least so says the Bible, so says a book written by humans.

  • I know about the Elohim... it was late when I did this video and my frustrations over all that has transpired since Nathan when on his flagging campaign had me flustered =P

    Thanks for writing this clarification in =D

  • Well said! I like your logic! Thanks for sharing these insights.

    Blessed be,

    Bob

  • Love the analogy. :]

    You're always so well spoken in your videos.

  • Well Said. ^_^

  • Nice Video :)

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