league is AWESOME!!! for the first 10 minutes, then it gets repetitive .... run straight tackel, run straight tackle, run straight tackle ZZZZZZZZ lol ... still a million times better than soccer tho
dont know much about union myself but heres just an outsiders observation.. i just cant sit there and watch 'reset' 'touch' 'engage' 10x before a scrum is actually done. also a player in union who makes 8 tackles in a game is regarded as having a high workload. (nathan hindmarsh makes 40 on a quiet night), i think in the RWC final last year the ball was in play for about 35 minutes out of the whole 80 minutes. but im sure union is a great game (in its own way)
@FryWhite1990 League is a cleaner game. A great League team can put 100 on an ordinary League team. A great Union team could put 100 on an ordinary Union team(seen NZ nearly do it a few times), but more often than not the average Union team - such as Namibia, Japan or Wales - can keep the gap marginal by kicking themselves to a respectable score and spoiling
Rugby is more like soccer in that regard, the class difference isn't as visible between great and shit teams as it is RL
International Rugby attracts capacity crowds in England, France, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Italy, Argentina, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand among others.
Meanwhile, so-called League 'internationals' often can't even half fill podunk local grounds.
@SD78 The largest Rugby crowd ever was to watch Halifax v Warrington, two small town RL teams. Good to know RL can draw crowds from small working towns to premier events the way Union can from national populations. And I see St Helens v Wigan filling Wembley the same as Eng v France fills Twickers.
A League double-header featuring Australia, New Zealand and England (the only three 'international' sides that even matter) couldn't even HALF fill Wembley last year. Meanwhile, Rugby gets 80,000+ for every major test match at Twickenham.
The Halifax/Warrington match was all the way back in 1954(!) and was dwarfed by the 109,000 that turned out to watch the All Blacks play Australia at Stadium Australia in 2001.
@SD78 Actually the Odsal game is still the Rugby largest crowd. Although the official crowd was counted as 102,000 that is because they stopped counting as there was so many people coming over the fence and watching from public property. The official estimated number was over 120,000. And in Australia 2007, the grand final crowds for both codes, 81,392 RL compared to 4,189 RU. Although it has to be said the RU marketing machine is first rate at selling corporate tickets.
@SD78 There is no unofficial number for the All Blacks/Australia game because there is no need of one, as it was played in a modern stadium. The Odsal match has one because official sources made that estimate because of the geography of the ground 120,000 +, still the benchmark . ARC at Central coast Stadium 2007, 4,189 supporters. RU National League v NRL.
No, the official attendance figure for the 1954 Halifax/Warrington game was 102,575.
LOL@'unofficial figure'...
Also, You are attempting to compare the local Australian CLUB competition with the NRL. In last season's Super Rugby competition (which has a much higher average attendance than the NRL), the Queensland Reds won the grand final in front of a capacity crowd of 52,000 at Suncorp.
@SD78 No lol at the unofficial figure. The unofficial figure was noted in the same breath as the official one because tha'ts how many people were there. It did not come about in the pubs and clubs afterward. 2011 GF winners Manly v Warriors 81988. Besides the NRL is the Australian club competition.
The 'Australian club competition' that features teams representing ENTIRE CITIES (Brisbane, Newcastle, Melbourne, Canberra etc) and has a team from NEW ZEALAND???
@SD78 Yes Australian clubs except one from NZ. The National Rugby League competition of Australia. Glad you find it amusing. If you watched it imagine the entertainment you would discover from Rugby.
No, the NRL is a franchise-based competition that features teams representing entire cities and one from NEW ZEALAND. You're attempting to compare it to a local second tier Rugby competition that only ran for one season(LOL!) instead of Super Rugby, which is the NRL's direct equivalent
LOL!
Where is this alleged source for Super Rugby only averaging 28 minutes with the ball in play and why are you linking some obscure entertainment website?
@SD78 Super rugby is an International competition. A attempt to combine the International profile of Union and profit from it with a league competition. It has potential advantages over the NRL of a a much wider viewership over three countries. It is not a direct comparison.
LOL..I've seen that 'study' before and it has been heavily discredited for it's rampant pro-League bias.
They deliberately omitted Rucks and Mauls from the metrics, which meant that ball wasn't counted as being 'in play' when a Ruck/Maul was formed You can clearly see this is the head-to-head player comparisons, where they amusingly conclude that League forwards have a much higher work load, while conveniently omitting that Rugby forwards might also hit dozens of Rucks per game.
@SD78 Well standing on a man in a ruck is hardly a tackle, the ball lying motionless at the bottom of a pile of players is surely "waiting to be in play". It is only bias toward League by counting real play and real tackles and not the imaginary forms of these skills present in Union. The IRB conclude some 36 mins in its own research. 42% and 49% ball in play for tri and 6 nations events. That's an awful lot of time spent doing what?
@SD78 Iv'e seen that figure and it does not stand up to scrutiny, Its from some schools help sheet repeated on WKP right? The lowest but accurate time I have seen reported is 62 mins. Now unlike Union in League the delays come from high scoring games 10 or 15 tries which are common. that's 15 celebrations, video ref deliberations, conversions and kick off's. Union has reset's, kicking out on the full and penalties a kimbo.
@SD78 The ruck n maul are a static affair resulting from uncontested breakdowns, players can spoil to gain advantage. The breakdown attracts fewer player as does the ensuing RnM. An ailing relic from 20 a side schoolboys games. RnM the source of elv's. Overt contortions of the rules, failing to produce results and denying serious change. Scrums an lineouts pay lip service only to competition with frightening retention rates. Ironically the more possession the less likely a score in U.
@SD78 Actually that is from the IRB's own study into the effectiveness of ELV's and quoted by Brian Moore in an article damning the quality of play in International competition. The IRB's own stats show the more possession the less likelyhood of tries. The more phases the less result, sound pretty static to me? Seems RL was right more than a century ago with the play the ball rule. "Uncontested" RL play provides more contest than competitive Lineout, ruck, maul and scrum. Ideas v reality!
@SD78 No even if I dismiss the figure of 28 mins (which I see no real reason to) by the IRB's own stats 32 to 35 mins the legacy of the indulgent, exagerated public schoolboy free for all is still clear. 64 mins in the high scoring NRL. All the kick off's from tries and conversions. Something the unevolved game has still to master, you won't know it, actual rugby!
The figure of 28minutes is bullshit. 35 minutes per Super Rugby match would be a very conservative estimate.
The figures for League I've seen have been in the region of 50minutes.
If League was so much better, it wouldn't be struggling to survive outside of a tiny handful of enclaves. The Superleague's sole Welsh club collapsed (even after being cynically moved next to the sport's fanbase in north England) and team representing the whole of London barely gets 2,000 per game. LOL
@SD78 Well there will always be more cheap plonk sold to an audience that can't tell it from Champagne. And you are right the hatchet job the RFU did on us From 1895 has been very successful in curbing the growth and acceptance of RL, Still without us where would you get the people to teach you how to play your game.
You've got that around the wrong way; League was a professional sport for nearly a hundred years, while Rugby was strictly amateur, yet League STILL couldn't expand out of it's traditional strongholds.
Now that Rugby is fully professional, League's has shrunk to a tiny collection of enclaves while Rugby grows exponentially
I realise that as a delusional League fanboy, this must make you very upset and angry..
@SD78 Oh dear no it was not. RU was paying tours of the North of England before the formation of RL. RL has only been fully professional from the late 1980's, before then the vast majority of players and almost all clubs were part time. Paid for playing is not the same as being a professional. RU has always been corrupt as its position against RL stands testimony to. Shamateurism is easily identified except to the ignorant RU follower. Read about the game! Maybe you will be some challenge.
You have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about.
League has been a professional sport virtually from the moment it broke away from Union over a hundred years ago and elite Union players were routinely offered large sums of money to switch codes.
LMAO@elite League clubs only being fully professional from 'the late 80s'...
@SD78 As a Union fan I am not surprised you have no knowledge of Rugby history of either code but I am surprised that you seem so willing to advertise the fact. Do some research. Educate yourself. The RU definition of professional is derisively self serving to its prejudice and includes any RU player "talking" to the RL would then become a professional. And I have news for you RU is not professional, It's still the laughably tedious schoolboy fiasco it was when you played 20 a side.
@SD78 Super Rugby. Is that the one with 28 mins of play per 80min game, on average? 52 mins of stoppages, on average? Per game. I think you are right that is not comparable to Rugby League. Not comparable at all.
@SD78 Ah the RU school of truth inversion! In what have I been proved wrong? NRL v Super 14 the difference in the game and the players. Voxy.co.nz. Of course the IRB has its own stats for the tri nations at 36 mins of play per 80. I'm surprised as a Union fan you don't notice this.
lol bloody awesome,those kiwi and safa impersonations were a crack up,to bad they didnt do an aussie one,maaaate maaate maaate cobber criiikey.League all the way,Union well at least we are the champs just like in League
I have played both union and league and I have to say union is much more enjoyable. Played league for half a season and didnt like it... its way less strategic. Still watch it though but a MASSIVE fan of union all the way!!
lol I find league a bit boring tbh. It's just the exact same thing for 80 minutes. I appreciate the physicallity and all that but there's no need for the top 6 inches.
@nibib123 Really? Your sport averages a 92% retention rate at breakdowns and an average ball in play time of 28 minutes out of 80. Combine this with lower skills and technical ability and Union seems to have the perfect cure for insomnia.
@terrortorn I just find it a bit boring. There's no change in the play imo. Not trying to flame or anything just personal preference. I grew up in the south island and have been brought up with union. The only people who play it over here in NZ are the players that are too dumb for rugby.
@nibib123 That is interesting here in the North of England Rugby League is played by people too smart to be conned by Union. Still you get 10/10 for persevering with your Victorian schoolboy code. Unfortunately you are so far down the road now Union ites are conditioned to believe dung is sugar. If only you could make the rule changes needed to make it watchable, but of course you are 100 years too late for that.
@terrortorn Being from England the quality of rugby union you're subjected to is not as high as it is here. I've watched the Heineken Cup and you're right, its's a bore. But to truly gauge the excitement of Rugby you have to watch the southern hemisphere competitions like Super 15 and the Tri-Nations. To me League is just another version of touch rugby, to others it is exciting.
@nibib123 It is the said Super Rugby tournaments and Tri Nations competitions that bring up the 92% retention rates, 150 to 190 rucks and mauls, 46 scrums /lineouts that pass for skill in your game. All far less demanding than attacking play and its so called strategic element is based around whether to kick out on the full or boot it down field. Ariel kick tennis. RU is designed to give the Referee (Headmaster) the biggest role on the pitch regardless of hemisphere. Anything but the Rugby.
@nibib123 Ah! providing Heaven respects a game that prospered having enshrined, in its bylaws prejudice, hypocrisy and bigotry against the social standing of the proponents of another sport. And a RFU in France that in collusion with the Nazi's and Vichy government banned RL ,sold all its assets and gifted them to the FRU at a time when RL was quickly becoming the dominant code in France. That marketing slogan is not used in England, it comes up against too much rigorous derision.
@terrortorn Rugby is not a game for the elite here as we don't have a rigorous class system. I know it is in England and that is probably why you have so much resentment for it.
@nibib123 It has never been a game played by the elite here especially in Wales. It is a game of the Establishment and sought to exert influence far outweighing its position as the governing body of an amateur sport. The resentment from the RL comes from this position. In NZ the situation was the same. The RU was enthroned through business and government and pressure was brought not to give RL a foothold, it failed. The French story is one of RL popularity and RU disgrace.
Rugby players are fags.. I do savate and I kicked a former rugby players ass when he stepped into the martial arts ring with me and I was half his size.
ive rediscovered my passion for rugby union after the rwc in nz and the all blacks winning it but i do like league as well especially the state of origin don't know why there is a need to argue over which is better they are both great in their own way.
I can't believe he's making fun of the fact you can contest the ball in union!?! That's what makes it better than league! League's just a cheap thrills version of rugby.
@helloimjackieee I know he's joking, i just dont find this funny. at all. its not funny when someone mocks an important part of our culture. I can take a joke, but I just dont find it funny. :)
Union is susceptible to being boring. It's inherent. Don't try and draw parallels between the two codes, because you can't. They're two separate games
the more league hates on rugby the better rugby gets...keep it up league. Just worry about your game and don't try compare cos they are two different codes! Ones big in Australia followed by hundreds of thousands and the other is gone so big it's played on the biggest sporting stage in the world...The Olympic Games!...Oh did i mention it is followed by more than 5 Billion people?...go figure.
hey wallaby karmate haha move otta the way im from south africa i need to get some money out :) wow wow where do you think your going cuzzy bro nah not with those shoes you to pissed
How come South Africa has the Webb Ellis and Australia doesnt then? How come Ireland beat you? How come the All Blacks havent lost a game and you're saying that we're an easy team, when you yourself have lost a game. The Haka is actually a traditional dance in New Zealand, Don't mock it. You don't see us New Zealanders mocking how much of a cunt you aussies are, do you? NO. I hope we kick Australias ass this weekend. Not to generalise, because I like australians, just not this dick. :)
@ShawnChrisLeoSmithy I never said Australia hasn't won the Webb Ellis, I said that South Africa has it at the moment and Australia doesnt. I just thought it wasn't a fair comment to say that South Africa is an 'easy team' when they have the Webb Ellis.. Thats all. I am aware that Australia has won the Webb Ellis and so have New Zealand.
@RuubixCuube Oh and I may not have said 'at the moment' but I said that South Africa has it and Australia doesnt. May I ask how you got out of that, That I said they havent won the Webb Ellis?
Fuck this is gold! Love both codes as well. I think the contest for the ball makes union a more superior sport, but it can also make it extremely boring and annoying.
mark where did u park, its starting to get dark, are u in the right car park, cause im down here wondering, just swiming with the sharks, just starting to be a nark, dont be a sky lark, im starting to get some plaque
penalty party. ..... good to know some australians have a healthy and accurate view of kick and clap. but yet again we in the north of england got there first.
'mark where'd you park it's starting to get dark are you in the right carpark cause im down here wanting to swim with the sharks your starting to be a nark don't be a skylark im starting to get some plark!' this is the best one, thumb that shit up
mark where'd you park it's starting to get dark are you in the right carpark cause im down here wanting to swim with the sharks your starting to be a nark don't be a skylark im starting to get some plark!
We have a couple of league teams in NewZealand . One of which are currently world champions even though only 15% of population follow league. Who is this guy anyway??? He looks like a soccer player.
@UHtiger Most backs in Union now are 90kg +, he would be considered light by Union's standards. Not hard to work out why, as League has a higher aerobic component.
"Mark, where'd ye park, its startin to get dark, are in the right car park? Cuz i'm down here wanting to swim with the sharks, your starting to be a nark, I want... don't be a skylark, I'm startin to get some plaque."
MARK where'd you PARK it's starting to get DARK are you in the right CARPARK cos im down here wanting to swim with the SHARKS your starting to be a NARK dont be a SKYLARK and im starting to get some PLAQUE LOLOLOLOL !!!
As a die hard union fan, this was hilarious.
Volda12 1 week ago
take it take it take it go go go. lmao
AwYourFunny 2 weeks ago
Only thing better than the sports jokes was the mildly racist undertones. Hilarious.
obglobgablob 2 weeks ago
league is AWESOME!!! for the first 10 minutes, then it gets repetitive .... run straight tackel, run straight tackle, run straight tackle ZZZZZZZZ lol ... still a million times better than soccer tho
MrIncorr3ct 2 weeks ago
I love both league and union both sports are just great and i pissed myself at this vid
thegoldennboyy 3 weeks ago
"OOOO yeah some nice fresh sheep"
eatmeatpizza82 3 weeks ago
where u think your going cuzzy
Ngaruawahiapanther 4 weeks ago
dont know much about union myself but heres just an outsiders observation.. i just cant sit there and watch 'reset' 'touch' 'engage' 10x before a scrum is actually done. also a player in union who makes 8 tackles in a game is regarded as having a high workload. (nathan hindmarsh makes 40 on a quiet night), i think in the RWC final last year the ball was in play for about 35 minutes out of the whole 80 minutes. but im sure union is a great game (in its own way)
notsofatmike1 4 weeks ago 8
@notsofatmike1 You're right there. Hindy's average for 2011 was 47. Fuck Union. League is the greatest sport on Earth.
WINSLOVE1 2 weeks ago
why the fuck are people arguing over league and union ? they are both fuckn awsome sports ,
lachynf18 1 month ago
rugby union has the biggest most hugest supported rugby team on the planet my friends and they are the mighty All Blacks yea boi!!!!!!!!!!!
maoripride2themaX 1 month ago
rwc was bloody brilliant! new zealand never partied so hard!
smokeandmirr0rs 1 month ago
I'm a League fan, but it's a bit rich taking the piss out of the RWC for having middow teams when our WC is pretty much just Australia vs. NZ.
FryWhite1990 1 month ago
@FryWhite1990 League is a cleaner game. A great League team can put 100 on an ordinary League team. A great Union team could put 100 on an ordinary Union team(seen NZ nearly do it a few times), but more often than not the average Union team - such as Namibia, Japan or Wales - can keep the gap marginal by kicking themselves to a respectable score and spoiling
Rugby is more like soccer in that regard, the class difference isn't as visible between great and shit teams as it is RL
z0mgrugbyreturns 3 weeks ago 5
@FryWhite1990
In the entire World, League has Australia, New Zealand and the north of England. Everything else is a JOKE.
Australia held the so-called League 'World Cup' for THIRTY-THREE years straight, up to 2008...
SD78 3 weeks ago
@SD78 Err Union is dominant in NZ, Wales and a few Pacific Islands.
terrortorn 1 week ago
@terrortorn
International Rugby attracts capacity crowds in England, France, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Italy, Argentina, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand among others.
Meanwhile, so-called League 'internationals' often can't even half fill podunk local grounds.
SD78 1 week ago
@SD78 The largest Rugby crowd ever was to watch Halifax v Warrington, two small town RL teams. Good to know RL can draw crowds from small working towns to premier events the way Union can from national populations. And I see St Helens v Wigan filling Wembley the same as Eng v France fills Twickers.
terrortorn 1 week ago
@terrortorn
A League double-header featuring Australia, New Zealand and England (the only three 'international' sides that even matter) couldn't even HALF fill Wembley last year. Meanwhile, Rugby gets 80,000+ for every major test match at Twickenham.
The Halifax/Warrington match was all the way back in 1954(!) and was dwarfed by the 109,000 that turned out to watch the All Blacks play Australia at Stadium Australia in 2001.
SD78 1 week ago
@SD78 Actually the Odsal game is still the Rugby largest crowd. Although the official crowd was counted as 102,000 that is because they stopped counting as there was so many people coming over the fence and watching from public property. The official estimated number was over 120,000. And in Australia 2007, the grand final crowds for both codes, 81,392 RL compared to 4,189 RU. Although it has to be said the RU marketing machine is first rate at selling corporate tickets.
terrortorn 1 week ago
@terrortorn
No, the official number was 102,575, while a verifiable 109,000+ turned out to watch the All Blacks play Australia.
The 2007 Super Rugby grand final was held in South Africa at King's Park, NOT Australia.
SD78 1 week ago
@SD78 There is no unofficial number for the All Blacks/Australia game because there is no need of one, as it was played in a modern stadium. The Odsal match has one because official sources made that estimate because of the geography of the ground 120,000 +, still the benchmark . ARC at Central coast Stadium 2007, 4,189 supporters. RU National League v NRL.
terrortorn 1 week ago
@terrortorn
No, the official attendance figure for the 1954 Halifax/Warrington game was 102,575.
LOL@'unofficial figure'...
Also, You are attempting to compare the local Australian CLUB competition with the NRL. In last season's Super Rugby competition (which has a much higher average attendance than the NRL), the Queensland Reds won the grand final in front of a capacity crowd of 52,000 at Suncorp.
SD78 6 days ago
@SD78 No lol at the unofficial figure. The unofficial figure was noted in the same breath as the official one because tha'ts how many people were there. It did not come about in the pubs and clubs afterward. 2011 GF winners Manly v Warriors 81988. Besides the NRL is the Australian club competition.
terrortorn 5 days ago
@terrortorn
The 'Australian club competition' that features teams representing ENTIRE CITIES (Brisbane, Newcastle, Melbourne, Canberra etc) and has a team from NEW ZEALAND???
BWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SD78 5 days ago
@SD78 Yes Australian clubs except one from NZ. The National Rugby League competition of Australia. Glad you find it amusing. If you watched it imagine the entertainment you would discover from Rugby.
terrortorn 5 days ago
@terrortorn
No, the NRL is a franchise-based competition that features teams representing entire cities and one from NEW ZEALAND. You're attempting to compare it to a local second tier Rugby competition that only ran for one season(LOL!) instead of Super Rugby, which is the NRL's direct equivalent
LOL!
Where is this alleged source for Super Rugby only averaging 28 minutes with the ball in play and why are you linking some obscure entertainment website?
SD78 5 days ago
@SD78 No its a report on that site from an independent source, an Australian university I think. It is in some detail. Type in the ref on google.
terrortorn 4 days ago
@SD78 Super rugby is an International competition. A attempt to combine the International profile of Union and profit from it with a league competition. It has potential advantages over the NRL of a a much wider viewership over three countries. It is not a direct comparison.
terrortorn 4 days ago
@terrortorn
Super Rugby is a franchise-based competition based in three countries.
The NRL is a franchise-based competition based in two countries.
This alleged study doesn't appear to exist.
SD78 4 days ago
@SD7 NRL v Super 14. Google. It's the second listed entry I have just tried it. Lots of telling stats.
terrortorn 4 days ago
@terrortorn
LOL..I've seen that 'study' before and it has been heavily discredited for it's rampant pro-League bias.
They deliberately omitted Rucks and Mauls from the metrics, which meant that ball wasn't counted as being 'in play' when a Ruck/Maul was formed You can clearly see this is the head-to-head player comparisons, where they amusingly conclude that League forwards have a much higher work load, while conveniently omitting that Rugby forwards might also hit dozens of Rucks per game.
SD78 4 days ago
@SD78 Well standing on a man in a ruck is hardly a tackle, the ball lying motionless at the bottom of a pile of players is surely "waiting to be in play". It is only bias toward League by counting real play and real tackles and not the imaginary forms of these skills present in Union. The IRB conclude some 36 mins in its own research. 42% and 49% ball in play for tri and 6 nations events. That's an awful lot of time spent doing what?
terrortorn 4 days ago
@terrortorn
The ball is being contested in Rucks and Mauls, with the idea being to hit the Ruck at pace and knock the opposing players off the ball.
Apparently, the ball is only in play for 50 minutes in a League match. WTF are they doing the rest of the time?
SD78 4 days ago
@SD78 Iv'e seen that figure and it does not stand up to scrutiny, Its from some schools help sheet repeated on WKP right? The lowest but accurate time I have seen reported is 62 mins. Now unlike Union in League the delays come from high scoring games 10 or 15 tries which are common. that's 15 celebrations, video ref deliberations, conversions and kick off's. Union has reset's, kicking out on the full and penalties a kimbo.
terrortorn 4 days ago
@terrortorn
You're using the same bullshit 'study' that the imaginary figure of 28minutes came from.
SD78 3 days ago
@SD78 And if you doubt that study i'll give you the IRB's own stats of anything between 40% to 44% of the time in play. Thats 32 mins to 35 mins.
terrortorn 3 days ago
@SD78 The ruck n maul are a static affair resulting from uncontested breakdowns, players can spoil to gain advantage. The breakdown attracts fewer player as does the ensuing RnM. An ailing relic from 20 a side schoolboys games. RnM the source of elv's. Overt contortions of the rules, failing to produce results and denying serious change. Scrums an lineouts pay lip service only to competition with frightening retention rates. Ironically the more possession the less likely a score in U.
terrortorn 4 days ago
@terrortorn
LMAO@Rucks being a 'static affair'...the whole idea is to knock the other player off the ball if they're contesting possesion.
Just stop talking, it's embarrassing.
SD78 3 days ago
@SD78 Actually that is from the IRB's own study into the effectiveness of ELV's and quoted by Brian Moore in an article damning the quality of play in International competition. The IRB's own stats show the more possession the less likelyhood of tries. The more phases the less result, sound pretty static to me? Seems RL was right more than a century ago with the play the ball rule. "Uncontested" RL play provides more contest than competitive Lineout, ruck, maul and scrum. Ideas v reality!
terrortorn 3 days ago
@terrortorn
So now you've changed your tune to 35min in play? LOL!
The figure of 62 minutes in play for a League match comes from the same bullshit 'study' you got the figure of 28 minutes from.
SD78 3 days ago
@SD78 No even if I dismiss the figure of 28 mins (which I see no real reason to) by the IRB's own stats 32 to 35 mins the legacy of the indulgent, exagerated public schoolboy free for all is still clear. 64 mins in the high scoring NRL. All the kick off's from tries and conversions. Something the unevolved game has still to master, you won't know it, actual rugby!
terrortorn 2 days ago
@terrortorn
The figure of 28minutes is bullshit. 35 minutes per Super Rugby match would be a very conservative estimate.
The figures for League I've seen have been in the region of 50minutes.
If League was so much better, it wouldn't be struggling to survive outside of a tiny handful of enclaves. The Superleague's sole Welsh club collapsed (even after being cynically moved next to the sport's fanbase in north England) and team representing the whole of London barely gets 2,000 per game. LOL
SD78 1 day ago
@SD78 Well there will always be more cheap plonk sold to an audience that can't tell it from Champagne. And you are right the hatchet job the RFU did on us From 1895 has been very successful in curbing the growth and acceptance of RL, Still without us where would you get the people to teach you how to play your game.
terrortorn 1 day ago
@terrortorn
You've got that around the wrong way; League was a professional sport for nearly a hundred years, while Rugby was strictly amateur, yet League STILL couldn't expand out of it's traditional strongholds.
Now that Rugby is fully professional, League's has shrunk to a tiny collection of enclaves while Rugby grows exponentially
I realise that as a delusional League fanboy, this must make you very upset and angry..
SD78 23 hours ago
@SD78 Oh dear no it was not. RU was paying tours of the North of England before the formation of RL. RL has only been fully professional from the late 1980's, before then the vast majority of players and almost all clubs were part time. Paid for playing is not the same as being a professional. RU has always been corrupt as its position against RL stands testimony to. Shamateurism is easily identified except to the ignorant RU follower. Read about the game! Maybe you will be some challenge.
terrortorn 23 hours ago
@terrortorn
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
You have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about.
League has been a professional sport virtually from the moment it broke away from Union over a hundred years ago and elite Union players were routinely offered large sums of money to switch codes.
LMAO@elite League clubs only being fully professional from 'the late 80s'...
Just stop talking, it's embarrassing.
SD78 13 hours ago
@SD78 As a Union fan I am not surprised you have no knowledge of Rugby history of either code but I am surprised that you seem so willing to advertise the fact. Do some research. Educate yourself. The RU definition of professional is derisively self serving to its prejudice and includes any RU player "talking" to the RL would then become a professional. And I have news for you RU is not professional, It's still the laughably tedious schoolboy fiasco it was when you played 20 a side.
terrortorn 8 hours ago
@terrortorn
What a retard.
Do you even know what 'professional' means?
SD78 42 minutes ago
@terrortorn League couldnt maintain a multination competition because no one else plays it in the southern hemisphere
sighlass 3 days ago
@sighlass Played in Aus, NZ and PNG as major sports. But I agree RL fans are not intrested in that sort of International competition.
terrortorn 3 days ago
@SD78 Super Rugby. Is that the one with 28 mins of play per 80min game, on average? 52 mins of stoppages, on average? Per game. I think you are right that is not comparable to Rugby League. Not comparable at all.
terrortorn 5 days ago
@terrortorn
Source?
Or are you just making up more lies after being proved completely wrong?
SD78 5 days ago
@SD78 Ah the RU school of truth inversion! In what have I been proved wrong? NRL v Super 14 the difference in the game and the players. Voxy.co.nz. Of course the IRB has its own stats for the tri nations at 36 mins of play per 80. I'm surprised as a Union fan you don't notice this.
terrortorn 5 days ago
doesn't know enough to win the world cup obviously.
speightsmychoice 1 month ago
Took me yeeaars to get use to the aussie humour, guess that makes me a mozzy now lol. suck ballz
nngak2 1 month ago
aussie has some dry ass humor should try learn of us kiwis !
86nugget19 1 month ago
@86nugget19 Don't judge us from this. He's obviously a league fan, which means bogan, and not very well educated.
cxdougxw 1 month ago
lol bloody awesome,those kiwi and safa impersonations were a crack up,to bad they didnt do an aussie one,maaaate maaate maaate cobber criiikey.League all the way,Union well at least we are the champs just like in League
MPT1983 1 month ago
Rugby union is great for the technicality.
Rugby league is great for the smashing.
Don't hate, appreciate! :D
Outlawzand1 1 month ago
an argument in the comments??? well thats a first
clayt247 1 month ago
wats the song in the background called?
EfanBoh 2 months ago
fifa 12 YE YEAHHHH
sydneyfc779 2 months ago
I have played both union and league and I have to say union is much more enjoyable. Played league for half a season and didnt like it... its way less strategic. Still watch it though but a MASSIVE fan of union all the way!!
MegaGenius84 2 months ago
lol I find league a bit boring tbh. It's just the exact same thing for 80 minutes. I appreciate the physicallity and all that but there's no need for the top 6 inches.
nibib123 2 months ago
@nibib123 Really? Your sport averages a 92% retention rate at breakdowns and an average ball in play time of 28 minutes out of 80. Combine this with lower skills and technical ability and Union seems to have the perfect cure for insomnia.
terrortorn 2 months ago
@terrortorn I just find it a bit boring. There's no change in the play imo. Not trying to flame or anything just personal preference. I grew up in the south island and have been brought up with union. The only people who play it over here in NZ are the players that are too dumb for rugby.
nibib123 2 months ago
@nibib123 That is interesting here in the North of England Rugby League is played by people too smart to be conned by Union. Still you get 10/10 for persevering with your Victorian schoolboy code. Unfortunately you are so far down the road now Union ites are conditioned to believe dung is sugar. If only you could make the rule changes needed to make it watchable, but of course you are 100 years too late for that.
terrortorn 2 months ago
@terrortorn Being from England the quality of rugby union you're subjected to is not as high as it is here. I've watched the Heineken Cup and you're right, its's a bore. But to truly gauge the excitement of Rugby you have to watch the southern hemisphere competitions like Super 15 and the Tri-Nations. To me League is just another version of touch rugby, to others it is exciting.
nibib123 2 months ago
@nibib123 It is the said Super Rugby tournaments and Tri Nations competitions that bring up the 92% retention rates, 150 to 190 rucks and mauls, 46 scrums /lineouts that pass for skill in your game. All far less demanding than attacking play and its so called strategic element is based around whether to kick out on the full or boot it down field. Ariel kick tennis. RU is designed to give the Referee (Headmaster) the biggest role on the pitch regardless of hemisphere. Anything but the Rugby.
terrortorn 2 months ago
@terrortorn Oh well you keep playing glorified touch rugby while I play the game that they play in heaven.
nibib123 2 months ago
@nibib123 Ah! providing Heaven respects a game that prospered having enshrined, in its bylaws prejudice, hypocrisy and bigotry against the social standing of the proponents of another sport. And a RFU in France that in collusion with the Nazi's and Vichy government banned RL ,sold all its assets and gifted them to the FRU at a time when RL was quickly becoming the dominant code in France. That marketing slogan is not used in England, it comes up against too much rigorous derision.
terrortorn 2 months ago
@terrortorn Rugby is not a game for the elite here as we don't have a rigorous class system. I know it is in England and that is probably why you have so much resentment for it.
nibib123 2 months ago
@nibib123 It has never been a game played by the elite here especially in Wales. It is a game of the Establishment and sought to exert influence far outweighing its position as the governing body of an amateur sport. The resentment from the RL comes from this position. In NZ the situation was the same. The RU was enthroned through business and government and pressure was brought not to give RL a foothold, it failed. The French story is one of RL popularity and RU disgrace.
terrortorn 2 months ago
@terrortorn Cool story bro.
nibib123 2 months ago
@nibib123 True story mate.
terrortorn 2 months ago
no they are not they are much more educated and civil that rugby union players
espanarulezomar 2 months ago
Rugby players are fags.. I do savate and I kicked a former rugby players ass when he stepped into the martial arts ring with me and I was half his size.
Dimitri0809 2 months ago
Im a union guy and this just makes me laugh
abbotluv 3 months ago
WOAH WOAH WOAH, where do you think your goin cuzzzy ? ..... not in them shoes your not
EminemIsTheSickest 3 months ago
beau you crak keeeeeeeint hahahahha
rugby and rugby league allday
NZ ALLDAY
DEZARSDA 3 months ago
ive rediscovered my passion for rugby union after the rwc in nz and the all blacks winning it but i do like league as well especially the state of origin don't know why there is a need to argue over which is better they are both great in their own way.
TribalSolider 3 months ago 4
haha why is he at manly wharf?
he must be a secret supporter for manly! HECTIC BROO!!! yew!
hannah222555 3 months ago
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hannah222555 3 months ago
I can't believe he's making fun of the fact you can contest the ball in union!?! That's what makes it better than league! League's just a cheap thrills version of rugby.
piepackage2 3 months ago
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@helloimjackieee Thats ok :) I do see your point as well. Sorry if you thought I was trying to be mean :)
RuubixCuube 3 months ago
Song at the start?
CallumMaher 3 months ago
@CallumMaher Escapee by Architecture in Helsinki
NexusFreeStyler93 3 months ago
@NexusFreeStyler93 Thanks (:
CallumMaher 3 months ago
@CallumMaher no worries mate :)
NexusFreeStyler93 3 months ago
I think the all blacks just won the world cup bitches!
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NinjaRayCarney 3 months ago
@helloimjackieee I know he's joking, i just dont find this funny. at all. its not funny when someone mocks an important part of our culture. I can take a joke, but I just dont find it funny. :)
RuubixCuube 4 months ago
Union is susceptible to being boring. It's inherent. Don't try and draw parallels between the two codes, because you can't. They're two separate games
namoop21 4 months ago
the more league hates on rugby the better rugby gets...keep it up league. Just worry about your game and don't try compare cos they are two different codes! Ones big in Australia followed by hundreds of thousands and the other is gone so big it's played on the biggest sporting stage in the world...The Olympic Games!...Oh did i mention it is followed by more than 5 Billion people?...go figure.
miguel3566 4 months ago
@miguel3566 I totally agree with you, I like both codes and they are different from one another.
OBJones28 4 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! WHO WON THE SEMI?
RuubixCuube 4 months ago
hey wallaby karmate haha move otta the way im from south africa i need to get some money out :) wow wow where do you think your going cuzzy bro nah not with those shoes you to pissed
flubbadub1 4 months ago
How come South Africa has the Webb Ellis and Australia doesnt then? How come Ireland beat you? How come the All Blacks havent lost a game and you're saying that we're an easy team, when you yourself have lost a game. The Haka is actually a traditional dance in New Zealand, Don't mock it. You don't see us New Zealanders mocking how much of a cunt you aussies are, do you? NO. I hope we kick Australias ass this weekend. Not to generalise, because I like australians, just not this dick. :)
RuubixCuube 4 months ago
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aseroxmilez 4 months ago
@RuubixCuube Wht do you mean Australia doesnt have the Webb ellis? they won it twice.
ShawnChrisLeoSmithy 4 months ago
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RuubixCuube 4 months ago
@ShawnChrisLeoSmithy I never said Australia hasn't won the Webb Ellis, I said that South Africa has it at the moment and Australia doesnt. I just thought it wasn't a fair comment to say that South Africa is an 'easy team' when they have the Webb Ellis.. Thats all. I am aware that Australia has won the Webb Ellis and so have New Zealand.
RuubixCuube 4 months ago
@RuubixCuube Oh and I may not have said 'at the moment' but I said that South Africa has it and Australia doesnt. May I ask how you got out of that, That I said they havent won the Webb Ellis?
RuubixCuube 4 months ago
LEAGUE IS NUMBER 1 no muckaround like rugby union
roosters834 4 months ago
hahahahaha da man!
destiny6ful 4 months ago
Fuck this is gold! Love both codes as well. I think the contest for the ball makes union a more superior sport, but it can also make it extremely boring and annoying.
coolguyjames99 4 months ago
you couldn't make a video on league coz it's so boring and repetitive
rubbish4000 4 months ago
League started from union Dichead
minipels1 4 months ago
league come from union you fucktard
whiteboy1593 4 months ago
gave me a nightmare 1:43
bulldogsboy2 4 months ago
Beau Ryan in Quade Cooper lol
Franckfibery12 4 months ago
The soundtrack at the start is in fifa 12.
fletcho909 4 months ago
Hahahahahahahah this is AWESOME! where do you think you're going cuzzie! Buahahahahahahahah. Not with that rats tail.
hakataparahi 5 months ago
fucking love both codes, REDS and Broncos baby! atleast one of them won this year lol.
aseroxmilez 5 months ago
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mark where did u park, its starting to get dark, are u in the right car park, cause im down here wondering, just swiming with the sharks, just starting to be a nark, dont be a sky lark, im starting to get some plaque
Ant2626ful 5 months ago
I grew up with Union, however, I love League as well...
SpiritMan00 5 months ago
where do you think your goin, cuzzie! ahah gold.
TheOfficialSkilect 5 months ago
As a Kiwi, the best part of this video right now is GO WESTS. HAHAHAHAHA
fishyman1942 5 months ago
'Woah woah where do you think you're goin cuzzie!?'
pepachet 5 months ago
lmao wearing socceroos shorts :P
General19The 5 months ago
Hey wallabie!!
hypdoutness 5 months ago
with a league ball hahaha
Maori0ra 5 months ago
penalty party. ..... good to know some australians have a healthy and accurate view of kick and clap. but yet again we in the north of england got there first.
terrortorn 5 months ago
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'mark where'd you park it's starting to get dark are you in the right carpark cause im down here wanting to swim with the sharks your starting to be a nark don't be a skylark im starting to get some plark!' this is the best one, thumb that shit up
ogilkison 5 months ago
mark where'd you park it's starting to get dark are you in the right carpark cause im down here wanting to swim with the sharks your starting to be a nark don't be a skylark im starting to get some plark!
shamo1997 5 months ago
yer well without union yu wudnt have league period
ValukaX 6 months ago
mark where'd you park its starting to get dark!!
simonerulz98 6 months ago
Rugby league forwards are leaner, meaner, faster and more mobile than union forwards...thats obvious...size does not mean better
rangas07 6 months ago
@rangas07 cool bro
bungfizz 6 months ago
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rangas07 6 months ago
i bet all u guys tried to find his penis at 1:45 like if u did
Oscar6851 6 months ago
@Oscar6851 Fagot
TheTrollUnit 6 months ago
South africa shit was funniest
w4lyfb 6 months ago
3:23 someone coughed
antzcutta 6 months ago
We have a couple of league teams in NewZealand . One of which are currently world champions even though only 15% of population follow league. Who is this guy anyway??? He looks like a soccer player.
brownballs100 6 months ago
Funny how nothing he said was true.
taweraster 6 months ago
whose that guy at 1:45?
tdavies456 6 months ago
@tdavies456 the big marn
Oscar6851 6 months ago
leagues for little girls. Look at the size of this dude. Hes too small to play anything in rugby.
brownballs100 6 months ago
@brownballs100 his a fucking great player u asshole
cyasoonbro 6 months ago
@brownballs100 at 6ft1 and 85 kgs he's bigger than quite a few rugby players that are going round at the moment
UHtiger 5 months ago
@UHtiger Most backs in Union now are 90kg +, he would be considered light by Union's standards. Not hard to work out why, as League has a higher aerobic component.
culchie1982 5 months ago
@culchie1982 But not "too small" as brownballs claimed, is my point.
UHtiger 5 months ago
@UHtiger Well if we're talking solely about body weight, he's below the average weight of the average Union back, so by definition he's too small.
culchie1982 5 months ago
LOL "what the hell is this sport , their all laying on each other , looks like a bloody orgy out there. Anything but the rugby bro . DOGGIES ! "
thinhcpl 6 months ago
go the doggies
cenaviper1 6 months ago
"Mark, where'd ye park, its startin to get dark, are in the right car park? Cuz i'm down here wanting to swim with the sharks, your starting to be a nark, I want... don't be a skylark, I'm startin to get some plaque."
eatmyshitpl0x 6 months ago
wow wow where do you think you're goin cuzzy xD
hahaaa
truSwelll 6 months ago
Whats the song at the start??
dannyboy18nz 6 months ago in playlist LOL
@dannyboy18nz
It's Architecture in Helsinki - Escapee
jrofeta 6 months ago
fucking hilarious, and i love rugby union!
spikhaza 7 months ago
you can dig shit on the all blacks. but aren't we the current four nations and world cup holders? and thats not even our primary sport.
TheJamesJoshua 7 months ago
MARK where'd you PARK it's starting to get DARK are you in the right CARPARK cos im down here wanting to swim with the SHARKS your starting to be a NARK dont be a SKYLARK and im starting to get some PLAQUE LOLOLOLOL !!!
nz4life1000 7 months ago
He's wearing soccer shorts.
OfficialBoltClan 7 months ago
"Ayy, where do you think you're goin cuzzy?" FUCKING LOL
Simpleplanfan4life 7 months ago
"hey wallaby" LOL
NinjaRayCarney 7 months ago
whats that first song called
hayne33 7 months ago
Rofl beau is a funny cunt.
oemzo 7 months ago
Fu*k all you "League vs Union" guys.
Both are great codes and I love 'em.
If you don't like one of 'em jus' don't watch it! problem solved.
nigggala 7 months ago
@nigggala taking this way too seriously man. chill the fuck out
TheSmartjackson 7 months ago
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nigggala 7 months ago
@TheSmartjackson
Sorry mate, but people arguing 'bout this shit are taking things seriously.
I am chilled so fuck off, cuz it's none of your business...
nigggala 7 months ago
@nigggala FUCK YOU LIKEHUNTER
yoduece 7 months ago
@nigggala bro do u no what a joke is? well fucking take it
Nikkishuu 7 months ago
Beau Knows rugby union in soccer shorts...
Waagyu 7 months ago
Very funny! Is there another "Beau Knows...." tomorrow? If so, what is the topic?
niknight2 7 months ago
im a kiwi and this is funny haha people take stuff way to seriously just sit down and have a laugh, cuzzie!
great4444444 7 months ago
Mark
Where did you park
It’s starting to get dark
Are you in the right car park
You’re starting to be a nark
Don’t be a sky lark
I’m starting to get some plaque
tomhughesbmx1995 7 months ago 17
I'm a Kiwi now that video is fuckin funny but I can't stand it when people call us sheep shaggers!! Those people are low!!
manaphythegreat 7 months ago