FYI Mf grimm is a murderer who will crawl up the stairs and shoot you! grimm blessed zeb wt the name mf doom and let him in MIC! doom just up and left mic behind! didnt help the crew! it is what it is! they both are dope! not my beef! big up 2 Bashton the Invizibul man for killin the intro so damn hard! tavistock
Grimm is way tighter than doom all day. Doom has I'll versus but mostly his songs are ok. His earlier stuff is tight as fuck but grimms shit is still better. How many of you hipsters like what he's saying? Not many cause you don't know what he's even rapping about half the time. You just like his style and that's the truth. Dooms a way better producer than lyricist
listen DOOM is far superior to Grimm even though Grimm is way talented too, just his style is so different to DOOM, it just doesnt compete in my opinion... this track is just a blunt straigth to the point diss... might as well be acapella and just be spoken word... i think they sorted it out though, as far as any of this stuff bein true in the track i don't know, but if this battle was solely on wax grimm wouldn't stand a chance... props to DOOM and Grimm though, respect
@backinthespot No, just no. As you said they got different styles (obviously) and you can't say that MF Doom is "far superior" to Grimm. I don't know about yall but /watch?v=HpgOsyTUvX8. There's not many MCs that can go head to head with G Rap on a track nor freestyle. [The Book of Daniel] This is definitely not a brag song nor something the Grimm Reaper can flex his mad flows on. Personally I think Grimm got a mad vocal presence, which is one part of why he's an outstanding.
Some of you are dumb ass fuck and dont understand what Being Real means!! Doom he may be the cool but he wouldn't be someone I would trust cuz at the end they show you there real colors! Grimm stays true to the game and dont fake the funk!
yo whats good grimm this is lou from Adirondack cat that wrote music you gave papers def poet jam monty's number back in 2002 still doing my than out here in V.T was wondering if u could holla back i got some flavor hooks for u .holla back to me at [802-793-7127 flaco.
@killlilwayne I guess I hate how fuckin overrated he is. and that he's sloppy as fuck. and never stays on topic. and he fucks his fans over and skips on shows.
@FreestyleFletcher i dont know mmaaaaan the reason he skips shows is cus when he would actually do the shows his fans would still say that it wasn't him so he got pissed and started this shit and why do you think they call him the super villain
@FreestyleFletcher I thought that too but I went to a DOOM concert about 2 weeks ago. Dude showed more love to his fans than any emce I've seen. He was signing everything... my MM...FOOD CD cover, shoes, hats, shirts, phones... I'm even his friend on facebook now... NO JOKE... but I love Grimm too. WIsh MIC did another album.. they has such a great sound but were heavily slept on.
I listened to El Chupa Nibre by MF DOOM and thought it was soo funny. I learned all the lines and everything. Then I read and broke it down and apparently had alot of ref to his rap career. I was like wow O.o... That happened before this song of course.
@10lettername He basically sold out when he wasn't with grimm. today they don't got beef they just decided to let it all go which was the mature thing to do, although I do appreciate their diss tracks they were greatly produced.
i get it now. but it seems pretty immature of grimm to start a beef with doom just because he got popular and didn't take grimm with him, thats just my take on the whole thing
@namesrevyelhsa You is one stupid nigga. This shit isn't even about how hard hard he is. It's about that two faced scum ass nigga Zev. You obviously don't even listen to this nigga. If you knew Grimm you wouldn't be saying that bullshit. Most of Grimm's shit isn't about how hard he is. Take Earth, Scars and Memories, and I Love You for example. You know who the fuck is mediocre? That nigga Doom you be bumping. Stupid nigga needs to stop hiding behind that mask.
so according to what everyone else has said about the situation, mf grimm is a little bitch because he got sent to jail and doom didn't visit him or anything. if thats really why he's hating on doom, then he's a child.
@balloonfiesta15 lol grimms a bitch cuz he survived more then doom ever has? lol doom lost his brother like a lot of ppl have and he shut down n ran to the bottle, never got out. doom was a shut in for years then he got that mask n shit. doom still a drunk and still fucks ppl around cuz of it, doing a show with a fake doom n shit... he's a joke. ZEVLOV X = DOPE. DOOM = NOT.
@balloonfiesta15 lol you clearly have no idea wtf went down if u callin grimm a bitch, grimm is far from a bitch, he one hell of a lyracist whom had more then the right to be pissed at doom, he got played by tha villan of crap'
and "moving on" is easier said then done especially if you where the victim. Of course doom is over it because he was the one that caused the harm he dont give a fuck about shit or about the brother bond between him and grimm but only of himself...
obviously those who say that grimm's sour because doom got all the fame don't listen to grimm's more serious and deep tracks. that man has been through much, losing his best friend and legs then going to prison and he could give a fuck less about fame. but doom too has gone through dark days, losing his brother, and if he gave a fuck about fame he could sign in a bigger, shittier label and get more recognition.
i'd lke to see you "grow up" after having your best friend get shot and you cant fuc'n walk and you almost went deaf and blind... yea just grow up. lol
better concept? really? who the fuck cares? ohhhh no the music industry scarred em so i wear this mask. in my opinion Doom is sick, but he's a pussy and fucked Grimm over. They had a beautiful thing and Doom fucked it up.
This is a nice track, but my homeboy put it best ... "Whenever somebody blow up, folks come out of the woodwork lookin' to get a piece." Yo ... I know how GRIMM feels, but ... his ass was locked up. Why make sacrifices for someone who has a history as wretched as his? He's not reliable. I respect GRIMM, kid has skills, but ... he just angry. Get on your grown man shit and get your owns ... stop mean muggin' somebody else's success.
This really isnt a diss, and yall shouldent be saying "This shit is ill!!" because its not ill. its sad, truly is. They been though so much, Grimm put Doom in the game, and doom just let all that go for money and popularity. This killed my whole perspective on doom, and i dnt feel like listening to his music anymore hes a fake :/
@GaiaGoldGiver56 - like I said in my comment. GRIMM brought it on himself. He was locked up. Their beef doesn't take anything away from the fact that every album DOOM did was fresh. Grimm needs to grow up ... this is the voice of a sour mouth ... mad 'cause he wasn't a part of the fame.
this has to be one of the best diss tracks ever and you can bet ya bollocks to a barndance it wont get noticed like it deserves personally i dont like doom i find him to hard to listen to but appreciate his lyrical ability but grimm for me has just as good lyrics and a much better flow doom to abstract and rddles all the time but just my opinion big up grimm !!!!!!!!!!!
i can see ur kinda slow or stupid, first of all this isint a diss its more like a eyyy man whats wrong with you type a thing but i guess your too dumb to see it
Facing narcotics and conspiracy charges, Grimm was sentenced to life imprisonment in 2000. He paid a one-day bail of $100,000, recording The Downfall of Ibliys: A Ghetto Opera in those twenty-four hours.During his stay in jail, Grimm studied law. After filing many counter-suits, he was able to reduce his sentence to three years and he was released in 2003.
bro, doom and grimm, are both ill in my book. mf grim had some crayz background story...lyrically, i think i'm feeling MAD FLOW GRIMM more, doom is sick, but lyrically grimmm has sonned many, hence the MF he hands out
what about mf bash! hes the dude talkin in the begining! i know the dude personally! he got alotta talent! he use to be good homies wt ad rock from the beastie boys! etc. he goes by the name bashton the invizabul man!! peep him out
@quartoGBbrooklyn i kno because mf doom is scared of mf grimm i read on a blog that the response mf doom gave to mf grimm diss was "i havent even heard the diss i dont have time to listen to him cry about somthin that happened in the past" lol mf doom is a bitch but he is good at wat he does
damn this shit is deep im reading bout what happened with doom and grimm, but yo from what im hearing doom scummed this guy hard, and thats terrible, from what ive heard alot doom has changed since the Operation Doomsdays days and i used to be obsessed with him. this really sucks i didnt know doom was like that, im mad dissappointed but i knew mf grimms story and i can sort of relate in a little way i just hope the 2 can reconcile shit hit me in the heart
@7thAFC grimm was doing supposed to be doing a life bid in jail for narcotics and doom never visited him, he straight ditched him, grimm ended up gettin out after like 4 years or some shit.and doom didnt help grimm back up at all.
has anyone ever heard the rough cut of this track, besides me? Grimm made it available for a free download when his self-titled site was still up. i prefer that version. it's the same track, but unpolished (the mixing of the audio isn't as intricate as this mastered version). it's raw. very fitting.
yeah well doom only sublimnially dissed grimm in one line off the danger doom album, then grimm went and made a full length diss to him, so there wasnt much in it by doom.. mf doom is a better mc tho one of the best
i thik mf grimm is so much better then doom.he puts so much heart and emotion in his tracks like he spilling his guts weeping on a track.mf doom isnt serious enuff.
They both were rivals from the start but the bottom line is Grimm and Doom are fam and they are both very talented. I won't say who i like more, just that they both deserve to be recognized for their talent. F*ck the bullsh*t opinions about who is better because when they start to make tracks together again... you know that sh*ts gunna be classix~~ Grimm/Doom once again XD ohh yea, and Gza/Grimm
Buh they had beef before this song as stated in grimms lyrics like he said "Made a mistake told the press you hold dope" doom was mad at him for that then he goes on to say "i c now its my fault i thought we let it go" doom has responded to this beef with a smart comment he said he heard about this diss but he doesnt have time to listen to it. but doom in my opinion is a bitch they were boys from the start and he sold him down the river. every since his brother was hit by a car doom changed.
in his song el chupa nibre u c mf grimms group was call MIC monsta island czar and doom said and i quote " MIC Midgets into crunk Monkeys into crime" in one of his lines in the song thats why mez was like Midgets into Crunk
YO LEMME TELL YOU GUYS THE STORY it all started when mf grimm and doom went to los angles to do a deal with a label grimm wanted his album BLACK BASTARDS out and doom wanted operation doom out i think and grim funded the whole project then grimm got caught up on a narcotics charge and went to prison for 3 years and doom sed he was gonna pay his half then wen grimm got out he never paid him he took the money and went to the burbs with his wife and kid then doom had the nerver to diss him
grimms solo albums have boring beats n his flow n rhymes dont match the villains, no ones does. on the other hand this is a dope diss song theres a lot of background in it its sick. the diss on mic by doom on the dangerdoom album he says 'MIC midgets into crunk"...diss
FYI Mf grimm is a murderer who will crawl up the stairs and shoot you! grimm blessed zeb wt the name mf doom and let him in MIC! doom just up and left mic behind! didnt help the crew! it is what it is! they both are dope! not my beef! big up 2 Bashton the Invizibul man for killin the intro so damn hard! tavistock
frestzxy 5 days ago
what does he mean when he says 'rza bit tick tick'
thrashbum 1 week ago
@thrashbum he said doom said rza bit tick tick, then doom done songs with rza after he said that
Jeev1993 1 week ago
The beat is beast, just like Grimm
AtomIsQuo 3 weeks ago
Damn, i love both guys' music. DOOM is my all time favorite, but he lost this battle. Deep fried frenz cant touch this track.
skoobadiver101 1 month ago
@skoobadiver101 How? MF DOOM is definitely better than GRIMm. Grimm is good though
eatpanda118 4 weeks ago
Grimm is way tighter than doom all day. Doom has I'll versus but mostly his songs are ok. His earlier stuff is tight as fuck but grimms shit is still better. How many of you hipsters like what he's saying? Not many cause you don't know what he's even rapping about half the time. You just like his style and that's the truth. Dooms a way better producer than lyricist
hteyou1 1 month ago
Does anyone know the sample of: MF Grimm's Alpha from his first album ?
spsnova 2 months ago
Too many fucking MFs, lmao
TomCatSwag 2 months ago
GZA - Pass The Bone
Tmathh 4 months ago
does anyone know what gza track that sample is from...
Tmathh 4 months ago
grimm dont quit
slop123456789 4 months ago
mf grimm and mf doom are fuckin brothers wth yall talkin about
The808Prophet 5 months ago
MONSTA ISLAND CZARS!!!
coolguys521 5 months ago
Haven't Heard this Song in Years and Its still as Dope as the first time I Heard it!!!
Latunza 5 months ago
started some shit now your sittin in a pile
TheAccount978 6 months ago
DOOM could never kill GRIMM not even 10 bullets can kill GRIMM
TheLouwryder 6 months ago
what did doom actually do? got famous? and grimm got jelous.. or is there more to it?
secretlad 6 months ago
@secretlad DOOM owed GRIMM money which wasnt paid after GRIMM came outta jail
TheLouwryder 6 months ago
I dont deep fry frenz, grimm reaper nuke em.
TheseNiggasTrippin 7 months ago
mf doom really was a snitch with all that commercial things
qmoney000 8 months ago
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damightyom 8 months ago
listen DOOM is far superior to Grimm even though Grimm is way talented too, just his style is so different to DOOM, it just doesnt compete in my opinion... this track is just a blunt straigth to the point diss... might as well be acapella and just be spoken word... i think they sorted it out though, as far as any of this stuff bein true in the track i don't know, but if this battle was solely on wax grimm wouldn't stand a chance... props to DOOM and Grimm though, respect
backinthespot 8 months ago
@backinthespot No, just no. As you said they got different styles (obviously) and you can't say that MF Doom is "far superior" to Grimm. I don't know about yall but /watch?v=HpgOsyTUvX8. There's not many MCs that can go head to head with G Rap on a track nor freestyle. [The Book of Daniel] This is definitely not a brag song nor something the Grimm Reaper can flex his mad flows on. Personally I think Grimm got a mad vocal presence, which is one part of why he's an outstanding.
vanishinoursleep 8 months ago
@backinthespot it is spoken word. Check out the video I posted
LiquidMetalX7 8 months ago
grimms verse is good but the rest of those dudes are meh.
bigddagenius 9 months ago
I'm sorry. A BUNCH of people told me Doom got slayed on this track.
Lyrics are remedial and his flow needs a wheelchair worse than he does. This is hot fucking garbage.
uhwaykin 9 months ago
Mad Flowzzz
mnvinn 9 months ago
this might sound dumb, but what does MF stand for???
moorzie1985 9 months ago
@moorzie1985 metal fingers/ metal face
DoctorMisterMusic 9 months ago
@moorzie1985 for doom it was metal fingers and metal face for grimm it was mad flows
mathhattan 2 months ago
Some of you are dumb ass fuck and dont understand what Being Real means!! Doom he may be the cool but he wouldn't be someone I would trust cuz at the end they show you there real colors! Grimm stays true to the game and dont fake the funk!
Drew5621 9 months ago
yo whats good grimm this is lou from Adirondack cat that wrote music you gave papers def poet jam monty's number back in 2002 still doing my than out here in V.T was wondering if u could holla back i got some flavor hooks for u .holla back to me at [802-793-7127 flaco.
Chongjr420 10 months ago
you can tell Grimm didnt want to pull the trigger..grimm is a dope dude
fuck the money...
im a fan a DOOM but not a dick rider unlike those who see the name DOOM and blindly say YEAH HE WON! you fools are pathetic,
ima say grimm
and isnt this squashed now anyway? so all your ignorant fucks settle down
ignorantSlinky 10 months ago 11
Cuz doom fckt ovr grimm! Dooms a sell out grim gave doom he's name...
herbdog1983 11 months ago
who the fuck is mf mez mf bash??????????????
killlilwayne 11 months ago
@killlilwayne dope rappers. tellin it how it is about that dumb fuck sloppy rapper doof.
FreestyleFletcher 11 months ago
@FreestyleFletcher haha shut up
killlilwayne 11 months ago
@killlilwayne NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! FLETCHER is GOD of HATE!
FreestyleFletcher 11 months ago
@FreestyleFletcher how can you hate doom? theres nothing to hate on
killlilwayne 11 months ago
@killlilwayne I guess I hate how fuckin overrated he is. and that he's sloppy as fuck. and never stays on topic. and he fucks his fans over and skips on shows.
FreestyleFletcher 11 months ago
@FreestyleFletcher i dont know mmaaaaan the reason he skips shows is cus when he would actually do the shows his fans would still say that it wasn't him so he got pissed and started this shit and why do you think they call him the super villain
killlilwayne 11 months ago
@killlilwayne i don't even care about that shit really. i just think he sucks.
FreestyleFletcher 11 months ago
@FreestyleFletcher hes the best
killlilwayne 11 months ago
@FreestyleFletcher I thought that too but I went to a DOOM concert about 2 weeks ago. Dude showed more love to his fans than any emce I've seen. He was signing everything... my MM...FOOD CD cover, shoes, hats, shirts, phones... I'm even his friend on facebook now... NO JOKE... but I love Grimm too. WIsh MIC did another album.. they has such a great sound but were heavily slept on.
danbadd 10 months ago
@killlilwayne
did u not hear the song?
doom changed. but hes still dope..
operation doomsday to his most recent album arnt similar at all. :/
TheTiggobitties 11 months ago
@TheTiggobitties sssooooo what
killlilwayne 11 months ago
@killlilwayne
nah im just saying doggie, i didnt read ur earlier statements..
but w/e
doom is < Grimm.
TheTiggobitties 11 months ago
This was more of Grimm reaching out while putting Doom in his place, then a diss.
They're cool now? That's good...
Glitch667 1 year ago
I listened to El Chupa Nibre by MF DOOM and thought it was soo funny. I learned all the lines and everything. Then I read and broke it down and apparently had alot of ref to his rap career. I was like wow O.o... That happened before this song of course.
kingzflames 1 year ago
marley marl and mc shan sample "you love to hear the story again and again"
which is relevant bc it was what kinda triggered the bridge wars
love doom and grimm so i had to check out the diss track.
branderson88 1 year ago
FUCKING DOOM SUCKS AND GRIMM IS THE BEST FUCKING MC.
MrLnx12 1 year ago
DOOM n GRIMM are koo now...DOOM is tha shit man
ThaDeadeyes88 1 year ago
2:20
AHAH
DOOM now towers above anything that M.I.C has done.
M.I.C is nothing without DOOM even though hes an asshole.
69thcomment 1 year ago
@69thcomment NAH DUDE RODAN AND MEGALON AND MF GRIMM ARE ENOUGH MF DOOM FUCKING SUCKS
MrLnx12 1 year ago
@69thcomment
yo what did Doom do exactly? i tried reading the hole beef but i couldn't pick out what he did to disrespect Grimm
10lettername 1 year ago
@10lettername He basically sold out when he wasn't with grimm. today they don't got beef they just decided to let it all go which was the mature thing to do, although I do appreciate their diss tracks they were greatly produced.
asthenia166 1 year ago
@asthenia166
i get it now. but it seems pretty immature of grimm to start a beef with doom just because he got popular and didn't take grimm with him, thats just my take on the whole thing
10lettername 1 year ago
@10lettername he also said mic=midgets into crunk
crudstickles 1 year ago
@crudstickles Monsta Island Czars...
mtombler 1 year ago
@mtombler no doom said as an insult to mic mic means midgets into crunk
crudstickles 1 year ago
they dont even got beef anymore
scribbles8675309 1 year ago
i like MF Grim, but Doom is The King!
NTBsquad 1 year ago
Whos MF bash and Mf MEZ?
MrLnx12 1 year ago
doomilazy fuckin sucks anyway. sloppy ass grandpa rapper!
FreestyleFletcher 1 year ago
Grimm can only rap about how hard he is. with only 1 theme he is just kinda mediocre. Zev towers above Grimm
namesrevyelhsa 1 year ago
@namesrevyelhsa You is one stupid nigga. This shit isn't even about how hard hard he is. It's about that two faced scum ass nigga Zev. You obviously don't even listen to this nigga. If you knew Grimm you wouldn't be saying that bullshit. Most of Grimm's shit isn't about how hard he is. Take Earth, Scars and Memories, and I Love You for example. You know who the fuck is mediocre? That nigga Doom you be bumping. Stupid nigga needs to stop hiding behind that mask.
NasWasLike 1 year ago
Grimm can only rap about how hard he is. with only 1 theme he is just kinda mediocre.
namesrevyelhsa 1 year ago
who the fuck is MF MEZ and MF Bash?
Dev17cmd 1 year ago
I just bought "american hunger" and this this the worst song on it. Beef wraps sound so petty sometimes , even if they are based on the truth,
samueltouchdown1 1 year ago
read mf grimm's blog spot.
They settled the problem.
google it. Youtube is being fucking stupid. cant allow sending urls.
ajbinuya 1 year ago
For all you still crying about this song. Lol.
MF Grimm and MF Doom are friends again, they settled their problem
This song was like made in 2006.
ajbinuya 1 year ago 7
@ajbinuya nah bro this song is newer than that. but its still old i know they odnt beef now just saying man lol
scribbles8675309 1 year ago
ALL I HEARD WAS BITER KIDS WHININ !!!
HotButtrdRum 1 year ago
ALL I HEARD WAS A COUPLE BITER KIDS THAT JUST AINT AS GOOD. JUST ANOTHER JUNIOR MAFIA . THAT CHORUS SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING FROM A CASH MONEY VIDEO .
HotButtrdRum 1 year ago
what really happened? can someone reply? no bs too
TheDipset1233 1 year ago
so according to what everyone else has said about the situation, mf grimm is a little bitch because he got sent to jail and doom didn't visit him or anything. if thats really why he's hating on doom, then he's a child.
balloonfiesta15 1 year ago
@balloonfiesta15 lol grimms a bitch cuz he survived more then doom ever has? lol doom lost his brother like a lot of ppl have and he shut down n ran to the bottle, never got out. doom was a shut in for years then he got that mask n shit. doom still a drunk and still fucks ppl around cuz of it, doing a show with a fake doom n shit... he's a joke. ZEVLOV X = DOPE. DOOM = NOT.
eyesea 1 year ago
@balloonfiesta15
Hey man jails borin I'd be pissed if thats what went down too. LOL
hardope705 1 year ago
@balloonfiesta15 lol you clearly have no idea wtf went down if u callin grimm a bitch, grimm is far from a bitch, he one hell of a lyracist whom had more then the right to be pissed at doom, he got played by tha villan of crap'
MadChiied420 1 year ago
THey should end the beef. Thumps up
eat9 1 year ago
@eat9 they already did from what i heard.
bigddagenius 1 year ago
FUCK DOOM
DocSinge 1 year ago
P.S. MF Grimm is NiiiiiiCEEEE !!!!
YunqqEarthquake360 1 year ago 2
Damn. MF Doom violated this nigga. But it's all good cause there's no beef between the two.
YunqqEarthquake360 1 year ago
really a great track!
Mesosoul 1 year ago
is this a doom diss?
metalhead805666 1 year ago
I love MF Grimm, he's a passionate artist. But I also like DOOM, even his new shit like Madvilliany.... wut exactly did DOOM do to Grimm??
Plus..... even if I like who Grimm seems to be more than DOOM now (iguess) ..
MF Doom has better beats, raps and he is more abstract. (unique)
PreparationA 1 year ago
i love mf grimm!!!!
and "moving on" is easier said then done especially if you where the victim. Of course doom is over it because he was the one that caused the harm he dont give a fuck about shit or about the brother bond between him and grimm but only of himself...
ana4106 1 year ago
dope track throw jewel droppa on this
hymenation 1 year ago
obviously those who say that grimm's sour because doom got all the fame don't listen to grimm's more serious and deep tracks. that man has been through much, losing his best friend and legs then going to prison and he could give a fuck less about fame. but doom too has gone through dark days, losing his brother, and if he gave a fuck about fame he could sign in a bigger, shittier label and get more recognition.
So this shit has nothing to do about fame.
bigVC25 1 year ago
BVIBES
i'd lke to see you "grow up" after having your best friend get shot and you cant fuc'n walk and you almost went deaf and blind... yea just grow up. lol
shut the fuk up man
Robsta718 1 year ago
they need to stop living in the past and move on cause doom moved on.
XxN1GHTSURF3RxX 1 year ago
what happened between Grimm and Doom?
XxN1GHTSURF3RxX 1 year ago
grimm is better as a mc...But Doom has a better concept.
rODIUMuk 1 year ago
@rODIUMuk
better concept? really? who the fuck cares? ohhhh no the music industry scarred em so i wear this mask. in my opinion Doom is sick, but he's a pussy and fucked Grimm over. They had a beautiful thing and Doom fucked it up.
GRIMM FO LIFE
WonderlustThing 1 year ago
@rODIUMuk you mean doom has a better gimmick lol
eyesea 1 year ago
Oh ... by the way ... Sentences is dope. Reading it now ... so fresh.
BVIBES 1 year ago
This is a nice track, but my homeboy put it best ... "Whenever somebody blow up, folks come out of the woodwork lookin' to get a piece." Yo ... I know how GRIMM feels, but ... his ass was locked up. Why make sacrifices for someone who has a history as wretched as his? He's not reliable. I respect GRIMM, kid has skills, but ... he just angry. Get on your grown man shit and get your owns ... stop mean muggin' somebody else's success.
BVIBES 1 year ago
This really isnt a diss, and yall shouldent be saying "This shit is ill!!" because its not ill. its sad, truly is. They been though so much, Grimm put Doom in the game, and doom just let all that go for money and popularity. This killed my whole perspective on doom, and i dnt feel like listening to his music anymore hes a fake :/
GaiaGoldGiver56 1 year ago
@GaiaGoldGiver56
WORD UP!
Deekstercph 1 year ago
@GaiaGoldGiver56 - like I said in my comment. GRIMM brought it on himself. He was locked up. Their beef doesn't take anything away from the fact that every album DOOM did was fresh. Grimm needs to grow up ... this is the voice of a sour mouth ... mad 'cause he wasn't a part of the fame.
BVIBES 1 year ago
GM GRIMM!!!
ashrok1982 1 year ago
this has to be one of the best diss tracks ever and you can bet ya bollocks to a barndance it wont get noticed like it deserves personally i dont like doom i find him to hard to listen to but appreciate his lyrical ability but grimm for me has just as good lyrics and a much better flow doom to abstract and rddles all the time but just my opinion big up grimm !!!!!!!!!!!
kickboxa5 1 year ago
i can see ur kinda slow or stupid, first of all this isint a diss its more like a eyyy man whats wrong with you type a thing but i guess your too dumb to see it
marswun 1 year ago
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ganjaplanta650 1 year ago
@ganjaplanta650 but damn mez goes hard on doom on this
getz21 1 year ago
@getz21 yeah...he really did.
ganjaplanta650 1 year ago
@kickboxa5 Thats exactly why I like Doom. Hes on that abstract tip
cc219Hmd 1 year ago
Facing narcotics and conspiracy charges, Grimm was sentenced to life imprisonment in 2000. He paid a one-day bail of $100,000, recording The Downfall of Ibliys: A Ghetto Opera in those twenty-four hours.During his stay in jail, Grimm studied law. After filing many counter-suits, he was able to reduce his sentence to three years and he was released in 2003.
iiNDiTC 2 years ago 11
@iiNDiTC
only shows how intelligent he is.
spitting intelligence, and demonstrates it.
i hope you read his book to discover that info :) i did thats why i thumbed up.
TheTiggobitties 11 months ago
i wanna see a fuckin documentary about them 2..and da whole m.i.c.
how they formed..
dat would be a pretty dope film..
dope trackk..
makes me think differently now..
how could DOOM just diss grimm and m.i.c...
grimm has alotta love 4 him.
but man DOOM your my favorite emcee..real dope artist..grimm is dope 2...but man apologize make up..and bring bak m.i.c....
K3TITO 2 years ago 19
what does MF mean
SLORRAbeats 2 years ago
DOOM - Metal Fingers, Metal Face, etc
Grimm - Mad Flowz, Motha Fuckin, etc
bklynsgc718 2 years ago
thanks my initials are MF people usually say it stands for mother fucker
SLORRAbeats 2 years ago
iz this a diss to doom???
JEYROCA1 2 years ago
@JEYROCA1
Yeah they used to be dope, check the CD they did together called "MF"
NickV801 2 years ago
Yes.
dablacklotus 2 years ago
bro, doom and grimm, are both ill in my book. mf grim had some crayz background story...lyrically, i think i'm feeling MAD FLOW GRIMM more, doom is sick, but lyrically grimmm has sonned many, hence the MF he hands out
Kreugerkidd1984 2 years ago
what about mf bash! hes the dude talkin in the begining! i know the dude personally! he got alotta talent! he use to be good homies wt ad rock from the beastie boys! etc. he goes by the name bashton the invizabul man!! peep him out
gleekPoison 2 years ago
naw grimm just wanted money fromm DOOM, he thought DOOM owed him
thacityismine13 2 years ago
wollt ihr mich verarschen?
MEINE FRESSE IST DAS SCHLECHT
thugsta987 2 years ago
i want this instrumental its fuckin tight
Zmw192 2 years ago
both of them are ill
but im still kind of new to them both..
did Grimm ever dis all of rhymesayers..
pasa626alta 2 years ago
"You love to hear the story, again and again."
Lol.
Man this shit is ill, the best diss song i've heard.
Grimm is so fucking poetic while Mez just flows out the emotion.
M.I.C for life
Jake444K 2 years ago
@Jake444K it aint really a diss
marswun 2 years ago
i actually read on a blog of mf grimm that they cool now and got no beef with him or anybody in M.I.C. so hopefully they join forces again
quartoGBbrooklyn 2 years ago 2
@quartoGBbrooklyn i kno because mf doom is scared of mf grimm i read on a blog that the response mf doom gave to mf grimm diss was "i havent even heard the diss i dont have time to listen to him cry about somthin that happened in the past" lol mf doom is a bitch but he is good at wat he does
uNderGr0undN199A 2 years ago
damn this shit is deep im reading bout what happened with doom and grimm, but yo from what im hearing doom scummed this guy hard, and thats terrible, from what ive heard alot doom has changed since the Operation Doomsdays days and i used to be obsessed with him. this really sucks i didnt know doom was like that, im mad dissappointed but i knew mf grimms story and i can sort of relate in a little way i just hope the 2 can reconcile shit hit me in the heart
quartoGBbrooklyn 2 years ago 29
thats what fame and mainstream recognition does. Thank god DOOM relized the error of his wasys and now hes cool with grimm
dipsetworld12 2 years ago 4
@quartoGBbrooklyn What happened between the two?
7thAFC 1 year ago
@7thAFC grimm was doing supposed to be doing a life bid in jail for narcotics and doom never visited him, he straight ditched him, grimm ended up gettin out after like 4 years or some shit.and doom didnt help grimm back up at all.
quartoGBbrooklyn 1 year ago
@quartoGBbrooklyn he stole grimms shit while he was in too
eyesea 1 year ago
@quartoGBbrooklyn so doom stole beats/words from grimm?
electronicchronic 1 year ago
@electronicchronic no doom scumbagged him and ditched him when he was supposed to be doin a life bid
quartoGBbrooklyn 1 year ago
@quartoGBbrooklyn ok thanks 4 info dude man
electronicchronic 1 year ago
@quartoGBbrooklyn
what exactly did Doom do to Grimm?
10lettername 1 year ago
@quartoGBbrooklyn youre late as hell man the patched things up years ago. in fact, if you really want the beef to stop you should delete your comment
tehgreatist 1 year ago
DOOM is still illa its like milla malt liquor time
marswun 2 years ago
real shiet. great song
yourauglygrimlin 2 years ago
has anyone ever heard the rough cut of this track, besides me? Grimm made it available for a free download when his self-titled site was still up. i prefer that version. it's the same track, but unpolished (the mixing of the audio isn't as intricate as this mastered version). it's raw. very fitting.
eutue 2 years ago
i dont "deep fired friendz" grimm reaper nuke em...that was dope haha
Zmw192 2 years ago 2
man DOOM and Grimm were dope together they should stayed together...grimm kill em thou in this battle
Zmw192 2 years ago
yeah well doom only sublimnially dissed grimm in one line off the danger doom album, then grimm went and made a full length diss to him, so there wasnt much in it by doom.. mf doom is a better mc tho one of the best
papaproduction 2 years ago
oh for sure DOOM is probably the better mc his word play is 2nd to none but Grimm is also hella dope and this song is amazing
Zmw192 2 years ago 2
Grimm is easier to listen to. Doom's voice can get old pretty fast.
ca2woaz 2 years ago
Sample from really old GZA son called pass the bone.
HaT223 2 years ago 20
@HaT223 Yea But This Beat is better
MFCAGE 1 year ago
MF Grimm Dedicated Realest Song
onemanarmyasonrip 2 years ago 4
This shit is hard.
Real emotion, reminds me of that pacewon diss track the joker. Shit is raw anger, real human pain and that shit can destroy.
GreyMatterTripp 2 years ago 2
So I'm kinda of. Is this a response to DOOM saying "Midgets Into Crunk"?
Apollothemyth 2 years ago
i always wanted 2 know, why did grimm go 2 jail??
papaproduction 2 years ago
He sold drugs and I'm pretty sure he shot a few dudes.
TheModestShowman 2 years ago 4
I believe the actual charge was criminal conspiracy, but yes he was a known dealer and criminal
DSQrn 2 years ago 2
i thik mf grimm is so much better then doom.he puts so much heart and emotion in his tracks like he spilling his guts weeping on a track.mf doom isnt serious enuff.
lamojkjk1 2 years ago
hey lamo, how many grimm videos you gonna post that same comment??
yy2217isdead 2 years ago 2
They both were rivals from the start but the bottom line is Grimm and Doom are fam and they are both very talented. I won't say who i like more, just that they both deserve to be recognized for their talent. F*ck the bullsh*t opinions about who is better because when they start to make tracks together again... you know that sh*ts gunna be classix~~ Grimm/Doom once again XD ohh yea, and Gza/Grimm
Sh*t gunna get Hawt!!!!
XXXDoGbOnEXXX 2 years ago 2
Buh they had beef before this song as stated in grimms lyrics like he said "Made a mistake told the press you hold dope" doom was mad at him for that then he goes on to say "i c now its my fault i thought we let it go" doom has responded to this beef with a smart comment he said he heard about this diss but he doesnt have time to listen to it. but doom in my opinion is a bitch they were boys from the start and he sold him down the river. every since his brother was hit by a car doom changed.
uNderGr0undN199A 2 years ago
in his song el chupa nibre u c mf grimms group was call MIC monsta island czar and doom said and i quote " MIC Midgets into crunk Monkeys into crime" in one of his lines in the song thats why mez was like Midgets into Crunk
uNderGr0undN199A 2 years ago
YO LEMME TELL YOU GUYS THE STORY it all started when mf grimm and doom went to los angles to do a deal with a label grimm wanted his album BLACK BASTARDS out and doom wanted operation doom out i think and grim funded the whole project then grimm got caught up on a narcotics charge and went to prison for 3 years and doom sed he was gonna pay his half then wen grimm got out he never paid him he took the money and went to the burbs with his wife and kid then doom had the nerver to diss him
uNderGr0undN199A 2 years ago
How did DOOM sell out?
jesone76 2 years ago
whos mez?? my alias is dr mezz when i freestyle with my buddies !!!!
ajaxde 2 years ago
Bottom line Grimm stayed true and DOOM sold out. I'm not disputing that they're both great artists, I like both in different ways.
One of the best diss tracks I've ever heard, if not the best.
peterbrock2 2 years ago
grimms solo albums have boring beats n his flow n rhymes dont match the villains, no ones does. on the other hand this is a dope diss song theres a lot of background in it its sick. the diss on mic by doom on the dangerdoom album he says 'MIC midgets into crunk"...diss
tjsilvestri 2 years ago
Good song.
AzmaCali 2 years ago
mf doom is dope but he ain't fucking with mf grimm
lemac 2 years ago
wow man why did this happened beef between Grimm and DOOM...this song is mad serious
you can see the love Grimm gots for DOOM but i
dont know on DOOM's part cause he never made
a dis back to Grimm.but they need to squash it
cause brothers shouldn't fight and another Grimm and DOOM album would be epic
oj713479 2 years ago 2
damn man, you need to get updated.
ThePurityProject 2 years ago
lol foreal
doomsNumber1fan 2 years ago
Word, we could have the return of Christ and the DOOM Grimm album would still be the best thing all year!
MyNameIsRakim 2 years ago 3
deep fried frenz
crushwack07 2 years ago
doom did make some disses, el chupa nibre and deep fried friendz, thats why grimm said " I dont dee fry friends grimm reaper nuke'em "
dipsetworld12 2 years ago