hey i have a good idea for Gm for how to beat fords next lighning....rebuild the syclone... or use the same engine and put it in a silverado single cab
My 99 Lightning gets 22 hwy and prolly 16 city..... i dont know where u get ur 10 mpg from.... Mines also pullied with full bolt ons and juice.........
@coalandnuclear Well, i don't know about you... But if i want a truck for more then just speed, then i would want a full size truck. I don't know where you are from, but here in nh if we need a work truck we buy full sized.
@1993hondaaccord i agree 100% but the lightning isnt practical at all, 10 mpg and that isnt even towing anything. and if your in nh then you might of heard of snow, at least the cyclone is 4wd. the lightning wouldnt move much up there. it just shows that trucks built for speed are almost useless. either way they are both pretty cool but i dont think i would buy either of them, i need a truck that can work and drive in the snow and back woods. im in indiana, so we get some snow too
the syclone was the worlds fastest production truck only in the 1/8 and 1/4 mile its top end sucked! thats why the lightning was declared worlds fastest reaching 148mph i believe and then the SRT10 Ram beat it by acheiving 154mph
i did my dads truck has a turbo knn air intake true dual exhaust an edge chip headers and a 460 big block when you add all that together you get one fast sick truck if you just tap the gas on that thing it throws you back into your seat and when you floor it man it goes from zero to 60 in less than seven seconds about 6.7 to be exact
So how exactly would 6.7 seconds beat 4.3 seconds or 5.1 seconds?
K&N Intake, Exhaust, Chip, all that doesn't really mean much. I have all that. Where's the twin turbo, or turbo? At least supercharged?
460 big block? Whats the hp at? Whats the weight of the car if its only doing 0-60 in close to 7? Wouldn't beat EITHER of these cars... Just like mentioned earlier.
@Ridinred02 I wouldnt say crazy fast,but theyr quick. a lighting will pull away after the 100 mph mark. And a lighting will have better acceleration if you put about 250 pounds in the back. Ive launched a lightning and left a typhoon about a car length behind me! Theyr allot of fun and thats about it!
@corvettkiller666 i wouldnt go that far. there turbo awd, theres no was even if you put 250lbs in bed it will leave the line faster than a syclone/typhoon.
@Ridinred02 Ive done it ,haus ! I used a pair of street radials and i have no idea what he had! Lightnings put more power to the ground than the typhoon because of the crude all wheel drive they had. Traction is the lighnings only downside as far as drag racing goes.
i raced a syclone from a roll and beat it in my lightning. but then we raced from a red light and he beat me... well i couldnt get any traction but those are fast little trucks .awd killed me!!!
Are you serious, man? I don't know much about the Cyclone, only that it was made to compete with the Lightning and 454SS. If it has the Turbo V-6 from the Grand National, well that's just badass!
LOL, no faster production truck? You are talking about the Lightning I hope. Because the Syclone with its all wheel drive STOCK is a turd....But money can buy claims to alot of so called titles....Stock vs Stock, the clone gets clobbered.....
...the syclone has 40 more hp stock then the ligtning does in 93. now remember that the syclone was only made 2 years the ligining in this video is like 7 years newer and still gets rolled
LOL, try google....The Lightning OWNS the Syclone....And now the Viper V10 owns both....Google away, dont take it from me, take it from proven 1/4 ETs....0-60mph back in the day nothing could touch the Syclone, but its AWD made it a turd on top end....anyway....I wouldnt kick either one out of my garage...
So in conclusion the syclone was modded, this race would be a lot closer if both trucks were stock with the syclone being quicker by less than .1 of a second due largerly to its amazing take off speed, but of the two the lightning is faster reaching speeds of a hundred plus needing only less than .1 of a second to do so, on any given day these two amazing trucks would be even all day with the syclone winning some and the lightning winning some as well.
First, Obviously not a stock syclone... the Syclone utilizes a 4.3L Turbocharged Vortec V6 with an intercooler, pushing out 285+ HP, the syclone accelerates 0 to 60 in an average of 4.6 seconds by professional drivers and did 1/4 miles in an average of 13.4 seconds at 98 mph also by professional drivers, i believe this one ran an 11.24?
Secondly, a ford lightning is powered by a Eaton supercharged modular SOHC 2-valve 5.4 L Triton V8, this engine is capable of producing 380 horsepower which went 0 to 60 in an average of 5.1 seconds by professional drivers and also does 13.5 second 1/4 miles at 103 mph by professional drivers...
VERY VERY TRUE. I'm glad to see someone that knows what there talking about for a change, I also just wanted to add that the Lighteing is running on 8PSImaking just 380BHP. With 10PSI the Lightening is capable of making 450BHP with just a simple change of a pulley.
@gtrxxfiendxx Turbo's use the exhaust which takes zero horsepower and the Lightning is supercharged which takes horsepower to spin it ( parasitic drag ). The Syclone has less frontal mass ( less wind resistance ) and is lighter and smaller than the Lightning. AWD does help with traction down the track, it's just a matter of increasing boost and tune as needed to compensate for the extra drivetrain. European sports cars use awd also.
and also Pracerdohczx2 dont open your mouth unless you know what your talking about because you just made yourself look like a fool and you obviously dont know much if anything about motors
and your wrong, actually turbochargers are the ones that have to spool up at lower rpms, while superchargers dont have lag. They dont kick in in as late as 3rd gear. and turbos will keep makin boost , and they both use air to make boost. and syclones have better quarter mile times stock. And at least the syclone still has a title as quickest. But Dodge took over the fastest truck record
99% of superchargers are made for good low end power, turbochargers are good for mid to high end power, thats why big turbos arent always so good if you cant get it to spool up fast enough, hence the reason why some cars comes eqipped with twin turbos, one turbo helps cut the lag time for the other turbo, hence creating a faster spool up. If you have a high revving motor, then you could probably go with a decent single turbo with boost controller to adjust the timing.
No, not all superchargers (as in definitely NOT 99% of them) are good for low end power. Roots-type positive-displacement superchargers (commonly used in OEM applications, like Ford's F-150 Lightning) are great for producing low end power while centrifugal superchargers (e.g. aftermarket Vortech units and the like) produce their optimal boost at higher engine RPMs.
along with what Buyahmiata said superchargers are always engaged because they are belt driven turbos run off the exhaust gas problem with superchargers is the boost is more limited and you cant alter the boost on a supercharger like you can on a turbo and turbos can have no lag or tons of lag depending on the setup
stock to stock faster isnt always the one that wins. A stock lightning is a fast truck but the quicker of the 2 is the Syclone, it gets to a certain speed faster but after that speed its gears are done and it will be passed by the lightning whose boost builds after around 3rd gear with a hard pull... thats how superchargers are they like top end because of the fact its pulled by the belts, the turbos use air psi to create boost. So in all there is no quicker production truck faster yes.
I love those who don't even own a Syclone or can spell it.. and yet you know allll about them.. >.> Mine does mid 11's in the 1/4 mile and IT IS STOCK. 13's.. PFFtt..
Do your research, the Syclone has a faster stock 0-60 thanks to it's AWD drivetrain, but the Lightning still boasts the fastest stock 1/4 time, what does that tell you genius? Somewhere after hitting early/middle of 2nd gear the Syclone just couldn't keep up. This one is modded beyond factory, get a clue. Bone stock they ran about 13.4s, Lightning can do 13.3 or something like that.
There is a big difference between quick and fast. For a while the guiness world record held the Lightning as the fastest, now it's the SRT10 Ram. No doubt the Syclone is QUICK off the line, but at the end of the 1/4 mile it's not faster than a Lightning, stock for stock on similar pump gas.
i know what you mean, im not a mechanic, my buudy with the lighning is and they were lookin at each others engines n shit and he said it was stock and still got beat by a syclone. who know what the real story was tho.
If he got BEAT by a Syclone then it was probably a 1/8 mile run, or the Syclone was running a higher octane fuel. I'm no mechanic either, but from what I've read in many public articles and from what I know about their drivetrains, motors, forced induction, and overall weights, professionally raced and timed Syclones and Lightnings come close at the end of the 1/4 mile, with the Lightning boasting the faster stock time, but the Syclone gets the better launch with the AWD and less overall weight.
it was 1/4 mile track cause my buddy was runnin mid 13's in a 03' lighning. it wasnt by much. but what im sayin when you read about the syclone, i think they arent building up boost before the turns, they just hit the gas and go. maybe he went to shell and got 93 octane. my buddy's svt used premium tho.
Some do and some don't. They don't have really big turbos so boost actually comes fairly quickly. And with the motor as big as it already is, boost is almost instantaneous. All the ones I've read that run lower than 13s build boost at just over 3200rpm. Some of the lowest Lightning times ran just above idle rate.
I will tell you something though I actually expected a little better from the GMC. AWD I was thinking the SVT was going to be crushed. Here is a great Turbo vs Supercharger. A turbo will usually prevail.
whats wrong with you lightning owners getting beat by those old piece of shit cyclones!!!!????? how come I have NEVER lost to a cyclone...it seems impossible to me!!! wtf is going on here people??? if you cnat drive your lightning, sell the fuckin thing!!
no way was that a stock syclone 122mph. on the 1/4 track. and they only hit 60 mph. faster then the lightning never the 1/4 mile or top speed bit the syclone is no joke. I do think they are bad ass trucks.especially when they were made. they were the fore runner of the whole lightning idea. I like thm both very much!
The real separating difference between the two isn't powertrain but rather drivetrain--the Syclone is AWD. Unfortunately both only come with automatic transmissions... where's the fun in that.
IN 1990 The Syclone LSR, a race-prepped GMC Sonoma pickup, became the first truck in history to break the 200-mph barrier at the Bonneville Salt Flats. The LSR, driven by high-speed veteran Don Stringfellow, achieved a one-way top end of 210.089 mph and an official two-way average of 204.145. The powerplant used was a naturally aspirated 5-liter V-6 engine, bored out from the stock displacement of 4.3 liters.
If anything can beat it, it's only 18 years later LoL! Ty/Sy pwns, nuff said.
cool trucks, last I heard Ford lightning had the top speed record for a production truck though, unless the new Dodge Rumble bees beat it. The syclone/typhoon still has a faster 1/4th mile time stock, but they limit top speed to about 120ish on the GMCs?
you mean the srt-10, the rumble be is just a 5.7 hemi, runs high 14's, can be made to run low 13's N/A with mods though. The Dodge SRT-10 IS the worlds fastest production truck, the syclone isnt without modifications.
Wow there are some enlightening comments here. Anyhoo, this was my Syclone, so I can comment authoritatively on it. It was heavily modified; built stock trans, rebuilt motor with stronger internals, better heads, larger turbo and so forth. It was probably near stock weight, of ~3600lbs. You can do the calculation to figure out the HP. Obviously it is not stock, and it looked like the L was stock; no big deal. Syty's aren't reliable, but they are worth the effort to make 'em fast IMO.
hjjfffaa calm down b4 you get your panties all bunched up in a knot. NO.1 no one gives a shit about my spelling, it proves nothing other then the fact that i dont give a shit, and calling me a faggot only futher suports the lack of brain cells you hillbilly bowtie lovers have.
and the 5 minit thing was a exapmle< i dont know how long they lasted but it sure as hell wasnt as long as the ford l, hell i even like some chevys but when a 3000 lbs truck beats a 4500 lbs truck im not givin it credit
you fan boys are like little girls. who cares what fing brand is what. Once you mod comparisons arguments dont hold up. BTW the lightning looks way the hell better than that gardener truck
Just don't buy the new crap. I can't stand the cheap plastic in the vehicles. I don't understand how the government calls the bumpers on today's vehicle's bumpers. They are just a hunk a plastic. I think they need to force the engineers to work repairing vehicles when they retire. Hands on not desk job.
ford made the 302. chevy had the 305. they replaced it with the 327 and 350 because they were more powerful and reliable. they stopped making the syclone because they had too much power for the truck which was basically an S10 or Sonoma. they didnt want more people to get hurt or killed in them,not because nobody wanted them. I want one and plan to buy one later. does anyone know how much power its engine has? i know its a 4.3 V6 with a turbo. or ill get an S10 and put a 350 or 383 stroker in it
Ford owners are morons. General Motors are better built and easier to repair. It is just too bad that the CEO's of GM stop making awsome vehicles like the Syclone. It's hard to believe that a truck can smoke a vehicle like that. There are video's of Syclone and Typhoon beating Rustangs and other high price sports cars.
evry time GM gos out of there way to beat a ford they end up wasting money becouse no one buys them. example-- the chevy 302 lasted a whole 5 minits in production, ---the cyclone only lasted 5 minist in production-- the chevy 454 ss 1/2 ton truck only lasted 5 minits in production, witch buy the way had a big block as apossed to the 1st gen lightning witch only had a small block and was still faster lol
Some people just don't understand.. Even the owner said that syclone wasn't stock.. The Syclone probably has 150hp more than the lightning and weights 800-1000lbs less I would think.. I own a lightning and would love a syclone, and for all haters check the value on Svt Fords they hold there value way better than Chevy's been there done that SS Camaro's are damn near worthless in value as I owned a 97 30th aniversary SS camaro. My 04 lightning books for more than a 05-06 SRT 10 Dodge..
Thats all Chevy fans do is cry, and they rig videos and make bs up when I've seen with my own eyes what ford can do to Chevy... but wow once that Turbo spools it does catch up...
yeh since the lightning is leaving already on boost. but you can tell they are bracket racing. still not bad for a 17 year old pick up truck. you have to give credit when credit is dew. not all gm fans cry. some people just like fast cars. we cant help most of them are gm products. ford never made anything to interfered with sells.by the way that is the dumbest shit i have heared of!
Its funny because every video I go to even if its not even related to Ford anyone that downs Ford in those videos gets negative thumbs down like 30+ times in a Chevy video. Chevy is junk - and everyone and their mom owns a stupid Chevy... GM is just a big company they are not better...
Ok, someone apparently hacked my account or something, because not only did I not write that, I have never even seen this video till now. Shit, I drive a Ford every day, and I could give a crap less about the "Ford v/s Chevy" thing...
whats funny is the syclone is worth more than the lightning will ever be it was and still is the fastest production truck to date 12.8 stock yeah thats completely stock from the show room oh and its a 6 cylinder.
Which is why dumb ass GMC quit making them... because they'd eat a corvette... Ford never made a vehicle that interfered with its own sells like dumb ass GM.... They put those vehicles out to mess with competition and ended up making themselves look bad.
chevy is a good ride ,but i will tell you this it cant run with a ford,my brothers 302 with blow a 350 off the road ,plus i can out run a chevy on a wheel chair
A boat,trailer, 2 tons of slate, a cord of wood, tools, furniture.... actually, for everyday use, just as much as the Ford. Sure the Ford will have greater towing capacity, but most owners just use them as penis extensions, and rarely tow more than the chihuahua in the passenger seat.
in comparison to the SS yea the (SUPERCHARGED) lightning will beat it but it takes a SUPERCHARGER to do so. slap one on a SS and FORD wont have a chance in hell. but take your lightning to a JOE GIBBS edition Silverado once again the underdog naturally aspirated GM will walk all over it. and the cyclone is fast due to power to weight ration i doubt it has serious mods in this vid.
Whoa that truck is sick i mean the stupid ford is V8(supercharged) 360 Horsepower and 440 ft·lbf of torque and the GMC V6(single turbo) is 280 hp and 360 ft.lbf.
actually ford is more up to date... the interior in chevy has been the same for the past 10 years and fords are outlasting chevrolets today statistically speaking. I have never had a prob(not one) with my 02 lightning and I run it hard!!! It has 115,000k on it. Plus the lighting is the fastest stock truck available. What does chevy have? A horribly slow SS silverado... lol... So it seems to me you can't compare a chevy to a FORD... because FORD is just plain better
i think fastjeeps needs to shut the fuck up about gay jeeps and go stick his little cock in a mudhole or something because he dont have a fucking clue what he is talking about because i have a video of my car on here and he thinks i like pos ricers and rides in a nissan minivan fuck him at least i dont drive a jeep
STEP THIS WAY SON!I was talking to exBERboy.LOL I think we all know how old you are you post under two identities,YOUR DADS monticarlo is a POS jeeps rule... go play your halo now,ENOUGH SAID...
did any of you stupi ford lovin' fuckheads notice the gmc won by 2 seconds shut the fuck up about your pieces of shit and go fix the rust holes in them
no rust holes in my ford... the lightning was stock the gmc wasn't... take a stock chevy SS and put it up to a stock lightning and see what happens buddy... boooo-yah
I think you need to go back to your hailo game and stop watching thease vids...what are you 16 you probably think your moms nissan mini van is the fastest thing since need for speed.LOL BY THE WAY THOSE ARE TWO BADASS TRUCKS NICE VID...
a syclone has way more then 190 hp youre just all pissed off because you know fords suck humongous cocks they rust out in 5 years they're is a ford focus in town that;s probably 3 years old and the rocker panels are already rotted youre just a fuckin inbred for lovin hill billy who doesnt have a fucking clue what hes talking about
no rust on my 02 lightning....that makes it 5 years old right? actually ford is more up to date... the interior in chevy has been the same for the past 10 years and fords are outlasting chevrolets today statistically speaking. I have never had a prob(not one) with my 02 lightning and I run it hard!!! It has 115,000k on it. Plus the lighting is the fastest stock truck available. What does chevy have? A horribly slow SS silverado... lol...
your a goddamn idiot, first of all just about every ford engine built has more power than a chevy,like a chevy 1500 biggest piece of shit i have ever seen they have like what a 4.3L V6 195 hp WOW, a ford F-150 has a 4.2L 202 hp V6 and look still more hp and its like that with every Ford and Chevy, and the only reason that syclone won is not because its a chevy no its because its all wheel drive. god ur a dumbass
No it won cause it is lighter and has more HP that the lightning. rated at 280HP with 320lb of torque which was most likely underrated. More HP than any factory ford at that time!!!
Oh the USA car morons ring in. Facts mean nothing. If it is a brand you like that means (to yo) that ti is the fastest. All the morons here like this should be defense attorneys: Your argument for your side being correct will be: "Just because". Now, respond with some lude language with a twist grammatical ineptness and a side of hot steaming GED.
In magazine tests the 16 year old Syclone has run 0-60 in 4.5, 4.6, 5.1, and 5.3. The second generation Furd Lighting always seems to run a 5.2. How then does the "ford lightning wins anyday"? People who say what they want to be fact, as being fact, and never bother to READ, make me sick. Makes you Furd fans look even dumbER.
hey i have a good idea for Gm for how to beat fords next lighning....rebuild the syclone... or use the same engine and put it in a silverado single cab
chinchillawrangler 4 months ago
@1969Stingray427 im aware of that, i own a ty.
Ridinred02 7 months ago
My 99 Lightning gets 22 hwy and prolly 16 city..... i dont know where u get ur 10 mpg from.... Mines also pullied with full bolt ons and juice.........
yusoslo1999 7 months ago
The GM may be faster, but the Ford is more practical. So it's a war between speed and practicality.
1993hondaaccord 1 year ago
@1993hondaaccord how is it more practical, its 2wd
coalandnuclear 11 months ago
@coalandnuclear Well, i don't know about you... But if i want a truck for more then just speed, then i would want a full size truck. I don't know where you are from, but here in nh if we need a work truck we buy full sized.
1993hondaaccord 11 months ago
@1993hondaaccord i agree 100% but the lightning isnt practical at all, 10 mpg and that isnt even towing anything. and if your in nh then you might of heard of snow, at least the cyclone is 4wd. the lightning wouldnt move much up there. it just shows that trucks built for speed are almost useless. either way they are both pretty cool but i dont think i would buy either of them, i need a truck that can work and drive in the snow and back woods. im in indiana, so we get some snow too
coalandnuclear 11 months ago
the syclone was the worlds fastest production truck only in the 1/8 and 1/4 mile its top end sucked! thats why the lightning was declared worlds fastest reaching 148mph i believe and then the SRT10 Ram beat it by acheiving 154mph
stuntrider15 1 year ago
Turbo lag is a bitch
supersk8rdude25 1 year ago
ford sucks period.
DeadToFall92 1 year ago
Why does Ford even try?? Just hang it up
TheDeiness 1 year ago
@TheDeiness Because they build 5 liters that are now faster than chevys 6.2 liters, who should hang it up now?
Kdubslugga 1 year ago
@Kdubslugga just cuz the engine is bigger doesnt mean its gonna be more powerful....their are other facetor ie heads cam intake etc etc
shupster369 1 year ago
@shupster369 Doesnt mean its GONNA BE true.. But it SHOULD BE!
Kdubslugga 1 year ago
that cyclone had some heavy mods O_O
StreikerJ 1 year ago
@StreikerJ obviously.
xsonz2 1 year ago
@StreikerJ Actually the syclone doesn't have any mods. It's awd with a turbocharged 4.3. the lightning has a triton v8 which blows balls
MunkyBuis 1 year ago
@MunkyBuis - this was my Syclone. it had a lot of mods to run 122mph in the 1/4. Did a best of 126mph trap speed.
greenbrian 1 year ago
why did the cyclone production end?
boosted05stang 1 year ago
@boosted05stang because the ford trucks put em out
flugin2008 1 year ago
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twistedtbird 1 year ago
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manofthehour114 1 year ago
@twistedtbird awesome.....
hootieti 1 year ago
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my dads f150 would have kicked both of those trucks ass
Fordman42 2 years ago
yeah I'm sure Ford fan boy haha
ms13goku 2 years ago 2
ROFLMAO Your dad trucks your ass, maybe. There's no faster production truck then the SyTy. Do your homework.
oDTheTruth 2 years ago 2
i did my dads truck has a turbo knn air intake true dual exhaust an edge chip headers and a 460 big block when you add all that together you get one fast sick truck if you just tap the gas on that thing it throws you back into your seat and when you floor it man it goes from zero to 60 in less than seven seconds about 6.7 to be exact
Fordman42 2 years ago
So how exactly would 6.7 seconds beat 4.3 seconds or 5.1 seconds?
K&N Intake, Exhaust, Chip, all that doesn't really mean much. I have all that. Where's the twin turbo, or turbo? At least supercharged?
460 big block? Whats the hp at? Whats the weight of the car if its only doing 0-60 in close to 7? Wouldn't beat EITHER of these cars... Just like mentioned earlier.
oDTheTruth 2 years ago
thats slow as shit and wouldn't come anywhere near either of these trucks retard.
lurch1489 1 year ago
A turbo knn air intake hmmm im pretty sure the comapany is K&N and if it had that big of a motor with a turbo your in the 5 second range
Ryder5172 1 year ago
its not a syclone its a sonoma gt...people know it by syclone bcuz of the jimmy that was a little more famous and had the same engine
aressocute19 2 years ago
hey 5LTRETER its not a grand national engine, its a 4.3
Ridinred02 2 years ago 8
@Ridinred02 didnt the old gn or the gnx have a modded 4.3?
corvettkiller666 1 year ago
@corvettkiller666 3.8L
Ridinred02 1 year ago
what was it that had a 4.3? i know there was a "sports" car with a turbo 4.3!
corvettkiller666 1 year ago
@corvettkiller666 sports truck... syclone/typhoon
Ridinred02 1 year ago
@Ridinred02...yea,ive seen em and owned one ...what about em?
corvettkiller666 1 year ago
@corvettkiller666 other than them being crazy fast, and hard to find, not quite sure. fuckin GM had to stop makin them, blows
Ridinred02 1 year ago
@Ridinred02 I wouldnt say crazy fast,but theyr quick. a lighting will pull away after the 100 mph mark. And a lighting will have better acceleration if you put about 250 pounds in the back. Ive launched a lightning and left a typhoon about a car length behind me! Theyr allot of fun and thats about it!
corvettkiller666 1 year ago
@corvettkiller666 i wouldnt go that far. there turbo awd, theres no was even if you put 250lbs in bed it will leave the line faster than a syclone/typhoon.
Ridinred02 1 year ago
@Ridinred02 Ive done it ,haus ! I used a pair of street radials and i have no idea what he had! Lightnings put more power to the ground than the typhoon because of the crude all wheel drive they had. Traction is the lighnings only downside as far as drag racing goes.
corvettkiller666 1 year ago
@corvettkiller666 late 90's model V6 cameros.
xsonz2 1 year ago
@xsonz2 they had turbos?
corvettkiller666 1 year ago
pinche fod mierda jajajajaja no vale verga la syclone asi viene de agencia es 6 y la ford es 8 nice video
angter 2 years ago
i raced a syclone from a roll and beat it in my lightning. but then we raced from a red light and he beat me... well i couldnt get any traction but those are fast little trucks .awd killed me!!!
minitruckermtz 2 years ago
almost anything with a Grand National engine would win
5LTRETER 2 years ago
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blazinmt 2 years ago
You're not implying that a Sy/Ty has a Grand National engine are you? Do some homework...but anyways, Syclone/Typhoon FTMFGDW!!!!!!!!!!!!1
blazinmt 2 years ago 2
Are you serious, man? I don't know much about the Cyclone, only that it was made to compete with the Lightning and 454SS. If it has the Turbo V-6 from the Grand National, well that's just badass!
74camarolt 2 years ago
i think the GN has a 3.8 turbo. the syclone is a 4.3 turbo. not sure though
minitruckermtz 2 years ago 8
That's accurate.
thetravdawg 2 years ago
@minitruckermtz you sir, are correct.
br00talSOUTH 1 year ago
@minitruckermtz u rite man
bongoboy5000 1 year ago
GNX has 3.8 liter turbo, this has 4.3 bro.
Damonunit 2 years ago 2
The syclone and typhoon are way faster than all these other trucks....when they're not broken!
ducatisbk1 2 years ago
both bad ass
scbca 2 years ago
90's Trucks > 00's Trucks.
End of Story.
pacmanghostx 2 years ago 3
it will be a good race stock vs stock but syclone will still win
lotus240s 2 years ago
LOL, no faster production truck? You are talking about the Lightning I hope. Because the Syclone with its all wheel drive STOCK is a turd....But money can buy claims to alot of so called titles....Stock vs Stock, the clone gets clobbered.....
scottgt6 2 years ago
...the syclone has 40 more hp stock then the ligtning does in 93. now remember that the syclone was only made 2 years the ligining in this video is like 7 years newer and still gets rolled
DirtridinElCamino 2 years ago
LOL, try google....The Lightning OWNS the Syclone....And now the Viper V10 owns both....Google away, dont take it from me, take it from proven 1/4 ETs....0-60mph back in the day nothing could touch the Syclone, but its AWD made it a turd on top end....anyway....I wouldnt kick either one out of my garage...
scottgt6 2 years ago
i said in 93. the 1993 lighting was a pos. but this video is old vs new and the simplier the better :)
DirtridinElCamino 2 years ago
Please take your ignorance elsewhere.
4POINT3TropicalStorm 2 years ago
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4POINT3TropicalStorm 2 years ago
Stock for Stock the 'Clone actually is right with the Lightning.
Lightning: 13.5 second 1/4 miles at 103 mph 0-60 5.1 seconds
'Clone: 13.4 seconds at 98 mph 4.6 second 0-60
The 'Clone gets clobbered? I think not.
Now, top speed, would be the only thing that it would get "clobbered" on.
The Lightning makes roughly 140 the Syclone makes about 126.
ryanthie 2 years ago
So in conclusion the syclone was modded, this race would be a lot closer if both trucks were stock with the syclone being quicker by less than .1 of a second due largerly to its amazing take off speed, but of the two the lightning is faster reaching speeds of a hundred plus needing only less than .1 of a second to do so, on any given day these two amazing trucks would be even all day with the syclone winning some and the lightning winning some as well.
kingof319 2 years ago
First, Obviously not a stock syclone... the Syclone utilizes a 4.3L Turbocharged Vortec V6 with an intercooler, pushing out 285+ HP, the syclone accelerates 0 to 60 in an average of 4.6 seconds by professional drivers and did 1/4 miles in an average of 13.4 seconds at 98 mph also by professional drivers, i believe this one ran an 11.24?
kingof319 2 years ago
Secondly, a ford lightning is powered by a Eaton supercharged modular SOHC 2-valve 5.4 L Triton V8, this engine is capable of producing 380 horsepower which went 0 to 60 in an average of 5.1 seconds by professional drivers and also does 13.5 second 1/4 miles at 103 mph by professional drivers...
kingof319 2 years ago
VERY VERY TRUE. I'm glad to see someone that knows what there talking about for a change, I also just wanted to add that the Lighteing is running on 8PSImaking just 380BHP. With 10PSI the Lightening is capable of making 450BHP with just a simple change of a pulley.
SSshane6d9 2 years ago
please take in mind in the diffrence in model years...
DirtridinElCamino 2 years ago
It's half of a pickup, lighter and all wheel drive.
IEATZR1 2 years ago
AWD would only make it faster off the line, and its twin turbod I am sure, the lightning should be able to make a pass cause of the awd slowdown!
gtrxxfiendxx 2 years ago
@gtrxxfiendxx Turbo's use the exhaust which takes zero horsepower and the Lightning is supercharged which takes horsepower to spin it ( parasitic drag ). The Syclone has less frontal mass ( less wind resistance ) and is lighter and smaller than the Lightning. AWD does help with traction down the track, it's just a matter of increasing boost and tune as needed to compensate for the extra drivetrain. European sports cars use awd also.
IEATZR1 9 months ago
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JoeOnTheRoad 2 years ago
a Syclone can go 0-60 in 4.6 sec
ptolemyrekhyt 2 years ago
and also Pracerdohczx2 dont open your mouth unless you know what your talking about because you just made yourself look like a fool and you obviously dont know much if anything about motors
gmctyphoon1992 2 years ago
and your wrong, actually turbochargers are the ones that have to spool up at lower rpms, while superchargers dont have lag. They dont kick in in as late as 3rd gear. and turbos will keep makin boost , and they both use air to make boost. and syclones have better quarter mile times stock. And at least the syclone still has a title as quickest. But Dodge took over the fastest truck record
Buyahmiata 2 years ago
99% of superchargers are made for good low end power, turbochargers are good for mid to high end power, thats why big turbos arent always so good if you cant get it to spool up fast enough, hence the reason why some cars comes eqipped with twin turbos, one turbo helps cut the lag time for the other turbo, hence creating a faster spool up. If you have a high revving motor, then you could probably go with a decent single turbo with boost controller to adjust the timing.
Pracerdohczx2 2 years ago
No, not all superchargers (as in definitely NOT 99% of them) are good for low end power. Roots-type positive-displacement superchargers (commonly used in OEM applications, like Ford's F-150 Lightning) are great for producing low end power while centrifugal superchargers (e.g. aftermarket Vortech units and the like) produce their optimal boost at higher engine RPMs.
studio960 2 years ago
along with what Buyahmiata said superchargers are always engaged because they are belt driven turbos run off the exhaust gas problem with superchargers is the boost is more limited and you cant alter the boost on a supercharger like you can on a turbo and turbos can have no lag or tons of lag depending on the setup
gmctyphoon1992 2 years ago
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Buyahmiata 2 years ago
stock to stock faster isnt always the one that wins. A stock lightning is a fast truck but the quicker of the 2 is the Syclone, it gets to a certain speed faster but after that speed its gears are done and it will be passed by the lightning whose boost builds after around 3rd gear with a hard pull... thats how superchargers are they like top end because of the fact its pulled by the belts, the turbos use air psi to create boost. So in all there is no quicker production truck faster yes.
ShinRay 2 years ago
i love that the syclones are soooo light
crsmith56 3 years ago
I love those who don't even own a Syclone or can spell it.. and yet you know allll about them.. >.> Mine does mid 11's in the 1/4 mile and IT IS STOCK. 13's.. PFFtt..
BattleBornJackalope 3 years ago 2
lol couldn´t say that better myself...totally agree from my point of view ;)
chrilla1980 2 years ago
i don't really care...ford looks and sounds kewler
dumapies 3 years ago
depends on what ford modell you are talking about!!!!
chrilla1980 2 years ago
FASTEST PRODUCTION TRUCK EVER!!!!!LMOF......ford atleast they tried!!!
BigBeautifulChik 3 years ago
Do your research, the Syclone has a faster stock 0-60 thanks to it's AWD drivetrain, but the Lightning still boasts the fastest stock 1/4 time, what does that tell you genius? Somewhere after hitting early/middle of 2nd gear the Syclone just couldn't keep up. This one is modded beyond factory, get a clue. Bone stock they ran about 13.4s, Lightning can do 13.3 or something like that.
phattacorider 3 years ago
Ok genius, its still widely regarded as the fastest production truck. Get a clue...
temps425 3 years ago
when you look up specs on the syclones/typhoons they arent building up boost off the line. they just hit the gas when the light turns
my buddy's stock 03' lightning got smoked by a stock syclone. svt's best pass that night was 13.5.
larson1647 3 years ago
There is a big difference between quick and fast. For a while the guiness world record held the Lightning as the fastest, now it's the SRT10 Ram. No doubt the Syclone is QUICK off the line, but at the end of the 1/4 mile it's not faster than a Lightning, stock for stock on similar pump gas.
phattacorider 3 years ago
i know what you mean, im not a mechanic, my buudy with the lighning is and they were lookin at each others engines n shit and he said it was stock and still got beat by a syclone. who know what the real story was tho.
larson1647 3 years ago
If he got BEAT by a Syclone then it was probably a 1/8 mile run, or the Syclone was running a higher octane fuel. I'm no mechanic either, but from what I've read in many public articles and from what I know about their drivetrains, motors, forced induction, and overall weights, professionally raced and timed Syclones and Lightnings come close at the end of the 1/4 mile, with the Lightning boasting the faster stock time, but the Syclone gets the better launch with the AWD and less overall weight.
phattacorider 3 years ago
it was 1/4 mile track cause my buddy was runnin mid 13's in a 03' lighning. it wasnt by much. but what im sayin when you read about the syclone, i think they arent building up boost before the turns, they just hit the gas and go. maybe he went to shell and got 93 octane. my buddy's svt used premium tho.
larson1647 3 years ago
Some do and some don't. They don't have really big turbos so boost actually comes fairly quickly. And with the motor as big as it already is, boost is almost instantaneous. All the ones I've read that run lower than 13s build boost at just over 3200rpm. Some of the lowest Lightning times ran just above idle rate.
phattacorider 3 years ago
Syclones have a better stock 1/4 time than lightnings.
thekiiing630 3 years ago 2
F150 Lightning is slower than the GMC...at stock
AudiArtGt 3 years ago
Slower than the Cyclone / Typhoon. Is what you mean, yeah your right . It is called power to weight ratio.
cafeevil 3 years ago
is called is faster ;)
AudiArtGt 3 years ago
I will tell you something though I actually expected a little better from the GMC. AWD I was thinking the SVT was going to be crushed. Here is a great Turbo vs Supercharger. A turbo will usually prevail.
cafeevil 3 years ago
actually no it wont....as you can see its not stock at all...
meann85 3 years ago
FORD F-Series!
dramaunitkeith 3 years ago
walkin the dog
kyl75 3 years ago
whats wrong with you lightning owners getting beat by those old piece of shit cyclones!!!!????? how come I have NEVER lost to a cyclone...it seems impossible to me!!! wtf is going on here people??? if you cnat drive your lightning, sell the fuckin thing!!
54literz 3 years ago
Make a video of it!cause i really wanna see that!no way a stock lightning is beating a stock syclone
emckinnon04005 3 years ago
no way was that a stock syclone 122mph. on the 1/4 track. and they only hit 60 mph. faster then the lightning never the 1/4 mile or top speed bit the syclone is no joke. I do think they are bad ass trucks.especially when they were made. they were the fore runner of the whole lightning idea. I like thm both very much!
KingJon1974 3 years ago
for realz!!!
aint no way that syclone shoulda beat a lightning
wat syclones got? like 280hp at stock
dat ford lightning sould have 300-400hp at stock
dat syclone is modded like murda
and da SVT driver was sleeping...
Reyes1134 3 years ago
hahahaha fuck ford gm all the way hahahahahahahahahaha
wheat18 3 years ago
ford may be bigger you dumb shits, but its got a fucking big ass v8. the syclones gotta 4.3 v6
breh529 3 years ago
The real separating difference between the two isn't powertrain but rather drivetrain--the Syclone is AWD. Unfortunately both only come with automatic transmissions... where's the fun in that.
hipnaughtic 3 years ago
That syclone's stock right!! lol!! cheater!!
jakey50 3 years ago
syclone walked him like a dog
saxplaya07 3 years ago
this race is like a fat guy racing a twig
Ford aLL THE WAY
lilbudd87 3 years ago
hey biofunk nice google search on your comment i highly doubt you actually knew that...besides who cares anyways bro
MishNmike 3 years ago
danm, that gmc cyclone had aturbo charger in it to top that,it started late and still won.
bloodynikka1 3 years ago
uh come on man half ton to pick up the syclone wins hands down the ford had a fatter ass
rweave3 3 years ago
IN 1990 The Syclone LSR, a race-prepped GMC Sonoma pickup, became the first truck in history to break the 200-mph barrier at the Bonneville Salt Flats. The LSR, driven by high-speed veteran Don Stringfellow, achieved a one-way top end of 210.089 mph and an official two-way average of 204.145. The powerplant used was a naturally aspirated 5-liter V-6 engine, bored out from the stock displacement of 4.3 liters.
If anything can beat it, it's only 18 years later LoL! Ty/Sy pwns, nuff said.
biofunk 3 years ago
cool trucks, last I heard Ford lightning had the top speed record for a production truck though, unless the new Dodge Rumble bees beat it. The syclone/typhoon still has a faster 1/4th mile time stock, but they limit top speed to about 120ish on the GMCs?
ToKoMiKo 3 years ago
you mean the srt-10, the rumble be is just a 5.7 hemi, runs high 14's, can be made to run low 13's N/A with mods though. The Dodge SRT-10 IS the worlds fastest production truck, the syclone isnt without modifications.
paulboy2006 3 years ago
I am surprised the syclone weighs out at 3600 - I would have guessed lighter
firemun59 3 years ago
Wow there are some enlightening comments here. Anyhoo, this was my Syclone, so I can comment authoritatively on it. It was heavily modified; built stock trans, rebuilt motor with stronger internals, better heads, larger turbo and so forth. It was probably near stock weight, of ~3600lbs. You can do the calculation to figure out the HP. Obviously it is not stock, and it looked like the L was stock; no big deal. Syty's aren't reliable, but they are worth the effort to make 'em fast IMO.
greenbrian 3 years ago 2
hjjfffaa calm down b4 you get your panties all bunched up in a knot. NO.1 no one gives a shit about my spelling, it proves nothing other then the fact that i dont give a shit, and calling me a faggot only futher suports the lack of brain cells you hillbilly bowtie lovers have.
and the 5 minit thing was a exapmle< i dont know how long they lasted but it sure as hell wasnt as long as the ford l, hell i even like some chevys but when a 3000 lbs truck beats a 4500 lbs truck im not givin it credit
carguykips 3 years ago
no credit for a 3600 pound v6 to a 4500 pound v8? with a old outdated 1991 v6. how many years did it take ford to half ass catch up?
RoxxyLee 3 years ago
you fan boys are like little girls. who cares what fing brand is what. Once you mod comparisons arguments dont hold up. BTW the lightning looks way the hell better than that gardener truck
mrfancypanties 3 years ago
it's a 91. all trucks in 91 looked like shit. but they didnt run like that
RoxxyLee 3 years ago
Just don't buy the new crap. I can't stand the cheap plastic in the vehicles. I don't understand how the government calls the bumpers on today's vehicle's bumpers. They are just a hunk a plastic. I think they need to force the engineers to work repairing vehicles when they retire. Hands on not desk job.
altlandf 3 years ago
ford made the 302. chevy had the 305. they replaced it with the 327 and 350 because they were more powerful and reliable. they stopped making the syclone because they had too much power for the truck which was basically an S10 or Sonoma. they didnt want more people to get hurt or killed in them,not because nobody wanted them. I want one and plan to buy one later. does anyone know how much power its engine has? i know its a 4.3 V6 with a turbo. or ill get an S10 and put a 350 or 383 stroker in it
GMCman82 3 years ago
chevy had a 302 to:D
nemodapimpfish 3 years ago
Ford owners are morons. General Motors are better built and easier to repair. It is just too bad that the CEO's of GM stop making awsome vehicles like the Syclone. It's hard to believe that a truck can smoke a vehicle like that. There are video's of Syclone and Typhoon beating Rustangs and other high price sports cars.
altlandf 3 years ago
dude there is no way gms are easier replace my friend has a monte carlo you cant even get to the battery because its under the engine real quality
murrayman 3 years ago
what you are forgeting is atleast the ford L
was built more years then the gmc.
evry time GM gos out of there way to beat a ford they end up wasting money becouse no one buys them. example-- the chevy 302 lasted a whole 5 minits in production, ---the cyclone only lasted 5 minist in production-- the chevy 454 ss 1/2 ton truck only lasted 5 minits in production, witch buy the way had a big block as apossed to the 1st gen lightning witch only had a small block and was still faster lol
carguykips 4 years ago
learn to spell before you go insulting chevy faggot. You might also want to learn to tell time
hjjfffaa 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
i think the Ford shoulda been named the Tingle instead of the Lightning.
IrishRonin 4 years ago
Some people just don't understand.. Even the owner said that syclone wasn't stock.. The Syclone probably has 150hp more than the lightning and weights 800-1000lbs less I would think.. I own a lightning and would love a syclone, and for all haters check the value on Svt Fords they hold there value way better than Chevy's been there done that SS Camaro's are damn near worthless in value as I owned a 97 30th aniversary SS camaro. My 04 lightning books for more than a 05-06 SRT 10 Dodge..
04silverbullet 4 years ago
I wish i could find a cheep SS.........
octain01 3 years ago
Thats all Chevy fans do is cry, and they rig videos and make bs up when I've seen with my own eyes what ford can do to Chevy... but wow once that Turbo spools it does catch up...
lizard2006 4 years ago
yeh since the lightning is leaving already on boost. but you can tell they are bracket racing. still not bad for a 17 year old pick up truck. you have to give credit when credit is dew. not all gm fans cry. some people just like fast cars. we cant help most of them are gm products. ford never made anything to interfered with sells.by the way that is the dumbest shit i have heared of!
RoxxyLee 3 years ago
even if the ford wins, the chevy owner will cry that the driver didnt know what he was doing. its like a catch 22
steeldragon20002000 4 years ago
well think of it this way. Ford and tampons are a lot alike. every pussy needs one hahahaha
wolfcat1998 4 years ago
say what you want. the lightning still looks better..
andriod19 4 years ago
Its funny because every video I go to even if its not even related to Ford anyone that downs Ford in those videos gets negative thumbs down like 30+ times in a Chevy video. Chevy is junk - and everyone and their mom owns a stupid Chevy... GM is just a big company they are not better...
lizard2006 4 years ago
Ok, someone apparently hacked my account or something, because not only did I not write that, I have never even seen this video till now. Shit, I drive a Ford every day, and I could give a crap less about the "Ford v/s Chevy" thing...
wolfcat1998 4 years ago
whats funny is the syclone is worth more than the lightning will ever be it was and still is the fastest production truck to date 12.8 stock yeah thats completely stock from the show room oh and its a 6 cylinder.
thetruemisfit 4 years ago
Which is why dumb ass GMC quit making them... because they'd eat a corvette... Ford never made a vehicle that interfered with its own sells like dumb ass GM.... They put those vehicles out to mess with competition and ended up making themselves look bad.
lizard2006 4 years ago
chevy is a good ride ,but i will tell you this it cant run with a ford,my brothers 302 with blow a 350 off the road ,plus i can out run a chevy on a wheel chair
koryrudd2008 4 years ago
The GM may be faster but the Ford could tow it home on a trailer, what could you pull with the cyclone?
shomx5 4 years ago
A boat,trailer, 2 tons of slate, a cord of wood, tools, furniture.... actually, for everyday use, just as much as the Ford. Sure the Ford will have greater towing capacity, but most owners just use them as penis extensions, and rarely tow more than the chihuahua in the passenger seat.
tykyca 4 years ago
in comparison to the SS yea the (SUPERCHARGED) lightning will beat it but it takes a SUPERCHARGER to do so. slap one on a SS and FORD wont have a chance in hell. but take your lightning to a JOE GIBBS edition Silverado once again the underdog naturally aspirated GM will walk all over it. and the cyclone is fast due to power to weight ration i doubt it has serious mods in this vid.
yfzfofitty06 4 years ago
Whoa that truck is sick i mean the stupid ford is V8(supercharged) 360 Horsepower and 440 ft·lbf of torque and the GMC V6(single turbo) is 280 hp and 360 ft.lbf.
GMC all the way and 2 seconds are a loooooot
hugoheartagram 4 years ago
you cant compare a FORD to a CHEVROLET it will just make it look bad. CHEVROLET lubes their gears with the tears of a FORD driver.
yfzfofitty06 4 years ago
actually ford is more up to date... the interior in chevy has been the same for the past 10 years and fords are outlasting chevrolets today statistically speaking. I have never had a prob(not one) with my 02 lightning and I run it hard!!! It has 115,000k on it. Plus the lighting is the fastest stock truck available. What does chevy have? A horribly slow SS silverado... lol... So it seems to me you can't compare a chevy to a FORD... because FORD is just plain better
dustin1872 4 years ago
Pussy!
texasfathead 4 years ago
ya exactly fuck all these ford loving retards and they're shitty lightings
savagexhaley14 4 years ago
jealous? I can see why... ford has the fastest stock truck on the market and they def look the best... boo hoo... go drive yur ugly gmc or chevy
dustin1872 4 years ago
enough said
stealthcorvette 4 years ago
i think fastjeeps needs to shut the fuck up about gay jeeps and go stick his little cock in a mudhole or something because he dont have a fucking clue what he is talking about because i have a video of my car on here and he thinks i like pos ricers and rides in a nissan minivan fuck him at least i dont drive a jeep
savagexhaley14 4 years ago
STEP THIS WAY SON!I was talking to exBERboy.LOL I think we all know how old you are you post under two identities,YOUR DADS monticarlo is a POS jeeps rule... go play your halo now,ENOUGH SAID...
fastjeeps 4 years ago
did any of you stupi ford lovin' fuckheads notice the gmc won by 2 seconds shut the fuck up about your pieces of shit and go fix the rust holes in them
savagexhaley14 4 years ago
no rust holes in my ford... the lightning was stock the gmc wasn't... take a stock chevy SS and put it up to a stock lightning and see what happens buddy... boooo-yah
dustin1872 4 years ago
It's like watching two POS running the sidewalk.
Might as well take a bucket of dirty water and dunk your face in it as it provides more enjoyment than driving either Ford or GD garbage.
exBMRguy 4 years ago
I think you need to go back to your hailo game and stop watching thease vids...what are you 16 you probably think your moms nissan mini van is the fastest thing since need for speed.LOL BY THE WAY THOSE ARE TWO BADASS TRUCKS NICE VID...
fastjeeps 4 years ago
a syclone has way more then 190 hp youre just all pissed off because you know fords suck humongous cocks they rust out in 5 years they're is a ford focus in town that;s probably 3 years old and the rocker panels are already rotted youre just a fuckin inbred for lovin hill billy who doesnt have a fucking clue what hes talking about
savagexhaley14 4 years ago
Syclones Came stock with 280hp. 300 and sumthing of torque
bchaves0 4 years ago
My truck is 21 years old and doesnt have a speck of rust on it. 86 F350 XLT diesel.
predracer04 4 years ago
no rust on my 02 lightning....that makes it 5 years old right? actually ford is more up to date... the interior in chevy has been the same for the past 10 years and fords are outlasting chevrolets today statistically speaking. I have never had a prob(not one) with my 02 lightning and I run it hard!!! It has 115,000k on it. Plus the lighting is the fastest stock truck available. What does chevy have? A horribly slow SS silverado... lol...
dustin1872 4 years ago
02 lightning will never be worth half of what a Syclone is worth !
boostedturbotom 4 years ago
and i dont like dragonball z either how fucking old are you. 8?
savagexhaley14 4 years ago
actually no asshole i have an 88 monte carlo thats better than your ford p.o.s. so why dont you stfu
savagexhaley14 4 years ago
fords suck cock hahahahahahaha every one knows that except for the retards that drive them
savagexhaley14 4 years ago
Oh Yea??? What do you drive? That little Cressida? STFU
TrueBlueDevil02 4 years ago
your a goddamn idiot, first of all just about every ford engine built has more power than a chevy,like a chevy 1500 biggest piece of shit i have ever seen they have like what a 4.3L V6 195 hp WOW, a ford F-150 has a 4.2L 202 hp V6 and look still more hp and its like that with every Ford and Chevy, and the only reason that syclone won is not because its a chevy no its because its all wheel drive. god ur a dumbass
Fordbestsellingtruck 4 years ago
No it won cause it is lighter and has more HP that the lightning. rated at 280HP with 320lb of torque which was most likely underrated. More HP than any factory ford at that time!!!
craygo6969 4 years ago
power to weight ratio dicktard. not awd.
campaug 4 years ago
If you put the same amount of money into the lightning as the syclone had the lighting would have won.
Speedyboy487 4 years ago
Oh the USA car morons ring in. Facts mean nothing. If it is a brand you like that means (to yo) that ti is the fastest. All the morons here like this should be defense attorneys: Your argument for your side being correct will be: "Just because". Now, respond with some lude language with a twist grammatical ineptness and a side of hot steaming GED.
xfxfxfxfxfxfxfxfxfxf 4 years ago
ford lightning wins anyday
t42musicz 4 years ago
In magazine tests the 16 year old Syclone has run 0-60 in 4.5, 4.6, 5.1, and 5.3. The second generation Furd Lighting always seems to run a 5.2. How then does the "ford lightning wins anyday"? People who say what they want to be fact, as being fact, and never bother to READ, make me sick. Makes you Furd fans look even dumbER.
xfxfxfxfxfxfxfxfxfxf 4 years ago