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  • @sushanalone I'd argue differently. Sure, the cleaning toilets thing is totally ludicrous and if I were a student I would refuse, but I think the much more important issue is the education. I'm a progressive and I believe in minorities being represented in the curriculum, it's just sad that Arizona is so financially screwed at present. I think they should just incorporate those Mexican American studies into the basic curriculum.

    BTW, thanks for your snotty reply, not.

  • THey should clean the toilets....with URINE!!!!

  • I'm pretty torn on this illegal immigration topic, but this is simply ridiculous. There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for this behavior. I'm an asshole and I think this is fucked up - what the hell...

  • Capitalist is just as much a bad word as socialist here.. as both are a disasters if taken to extremes.

  • btw.. just becoz Hitlers party was called national-socialists he was still a fascist and not a socialist.. And a dictator which pretty much invalidates whatever other label you wanna put on it.

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  • 95% of history books consists of dead racist white men. You need to teach latinos and blacks and asians their own history, so they have a sense of identity. The greatest American person in history is a black man (MLK).

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  • The Native Mexicans of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California should be very thankful they were not put on reservations like the American Indians. Spain attacked Texas, Texas became part of the US, and Spain lost the war, therefore, all land Spanish land deeds were no longer legal documents. America chose to leave that alone instead of clearing out the trash.

  • @kingachybraky, people are not trash.

  • That is outrageous. Punishing people for exercising their constitutional right to protest/ freedom of speech is just wrong.

  • I am currently ashamed of being a Tucsonian.

  • @BlueThndr13 You shouldn't be. The books they are removing from a Public Institution contain claims that the US stole the lands of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, and oppressed the Spanish people that remained. The truth is that Spain attacked Texas and Texas ran to the USA for help. The people protesting should be ashamed.

  • @kingachybraky Texas has the right to leave the union, we texans can reclaim our land bought and paid for in sweat blood and tears from the US government or anybody else. On the of people rewriting history. The scumbag leftist liberals is the ones doing that.

  • @PatriotTexas You are just another stupid texass asshole. Texass has no rights to any land they don't pay property taxes on.

    You assholes are so stupid, GW Bush and PRick Perry are the best you can offer the rest of the country. The best thing about being in the middle of texass is the any way you go, you are leaving the stupid state of texass.

    As for removing references to slavery in textbooks, the yellow rose of texass was a high yellow niggar, and all texass men want to suck her ass.

  • Whenever someone is banning information, you instantly know they are the enemy.

  • Fuck Nazizona fucking Redneck false history KKK loving New Jim Crow hell hole . this place is the new Alabama goes to show you how bad these fucking crazy people want to be Book Burners like Nazi Germany was .

  • what a wonderful way to energize young people. a baptism into activism. hooray for tucson lunatic school district. maybe there's a young cesar chavez in the making!

  • Fuck Arizona

  • @taliesinknol I live in Arizona and I approve this message.

  • Fuck Arizona

  • I can understand if the school had to close those programs down due to budget cuts, but why in the holy fuck are they banning the books, too?

  • @DeadFishFactory

    As far as I know US - mexican history....the books show that US actually stole their land with force for no reason...except of greed.

    When will USA undo this crime?

  • I'll clean the toilets... with these admins' heads.

  • I would sue.

  • Latino parents cut your grass and their children clean your toilets.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA

    Enslave the Black race

    GOD BLESS AMERICA

    Commit holocaust against Native Americans

    GOD BLESS AMERICA

    US Imperialism in Philippines, Guam and beyond

    GOD BLESS AMERICA

  • in korea kids are the one who cleans the school

  • If I was the parent of one of these kids, I would tell them I was proud of their effort. As to the schoo... l I would go tell the principal to go fuck themselves. :)

  • alright its offical Arazona is the most racist place in the west cost if not the U.S

  • @hollywoodjokerpicalo Arizona has a huge german population.... due to the nazis who were let in after the war. I don't find it shocking at all due to the history of the people that live there. Oh and I do agree with you 100%.

  • @hollywoodjokerpicalo The eastern south of America will always will be the most racist and thats a fact!!

  • They wouldn't do it to my kid...

  • I didn't think janitorial work as school discipline was anything new, but that's besides the point.

    It's ridiculous to suspend this class, even more ridiculous to ban books relating to the content of this class, and absolutely asinine to punish students for protesting the district's decision to do these things.

    I understand that classes are being cut due to budget cuts, but with the district's actions of book banning and punishing protesting students, it seems this goes beyond money...

  • Arizona should be nuked(EXTRACT ANYONE WITH ACTUAL COMMON AND MORAL SENSE)

  • WTF America?

  • THEY ARE THE BROWN KKK. Imagine if they were white. TYT would be happy.

  • GOOD! The liberals won't tell you they were teaching them hatred for white Americans. They were teaching genocide!

  • republicans are modern Nazis

  • @McMuffin752 nazis were republicans too hahah

  • @McMuffin752 No both sides are. Be Independent.

  • @McMuffin752 because nothing is more nazi-like that forcing people quite smoking or quite eating trans-fat etc etc. Oh wait ... that's what liberals do.

  • @SanguineBullet667 how desperate you are, you little pussy. man up! you're like all nazis. i mean republicans, sorry! whining, bitching, whining, bitching etc.

  • @UberTankred The Nazi's were Socialist. The Democrats want to turn America into a social democracy. Calling Republicans Nazi's is like calling a cat a dog. The ideologies are polar opposite.

  • @SanguineBullet667 Let's not pretend Nazi ideology was just simply socialism. We both know that's not exactly a complete portrayal. There's lots of social democracies in existence today. It doesn't make them the same as the Nazis.

  • @PenelopeBaden Of course not moron. There are socialist countries and social democracies. They're both horrible pieces of garbage.

  • @PenelopeBaden Actually, darling, you drew a parallel between nazi's and social democracy, not socialism. Re-read your own comment.

  • @SanguineBullet667 exactly! that's why hitler said that the bolsheviks are their greatest enemy because he loved communism... wake up dude! glenn beck is not a historian. he's a MORON! and now go back to school and learn why education in the us sucks.

  • @UberTankred socialism is not the same as communism moron haha. do you even know what Nazi stands for? It's short for Nationalsozialismus, meaning National Socialism. When history is standing clear in front of you I know liberals love looking the other way. Some would call it their biggest hobby.

  • @SanguineBullet667 you're officially retarded :D let's talk about something you're interested in, ok? be warned! i don't watch jersey shore or jackass :DDD

  • @McMuffin752 Just because your a republican does not mean you agree with this kind of stuff.

  • @McMuffin752 except for that whole ... nazi's being socialist thing ... otherwise you're 100% correct! oh wait ... um no 100% wrong. That's it.

  • @McMuffin752 godwins law.....classic

  • @coopmuch56 Well, if you think about it, it's an actual valid comparison, as they are both fanatically right wing.

  • America is going slowly mad. Well, maybe not slowly.

  • Banning books? Who still does that?

  • what about Canadian studies? why do we have to learn about the states

  • Just an excuse for more racism.

  • America is becoming completely brainwashed... fervent propaganda.

  • Fascism is a right-wing philosophy. 

  • Oh my GOD! I'm soo sick of these Equal Rights act commercials!!! Why do I have to watch them before I watch a Progressive show? When will The Young Turks address these commercials? This Act? These stereo types? Serious. Cenk, Anna, you guys can't be for this. Why is this sponsoring your show?

  • @826bmp They don't pick their adds....it's youtube

  • @826bmp There isn't anything they can do. Its a computer program at Google that picks the adds. The program knows that the content often involves politics and shows political adds. but it isn't programmed to know what side of the politics it should show.

  • @lazunzor(?) I understand the base def. Of race. I also understand that the definition if a word is determined by society. That said, maybe I should have worded it correctly. We all have a heritage. To tech one heritage at an overwhelming majority I believe is wrong. Chronological teaching with events of import from every nation/race/etc is the best way, in my opinion that is.

  • in year 2012 we are banning books.

    fahrenheit 451

  • Jan Brewers fucked Arizona for good... ever since her campaign about immigration / illegals and the way she directed it.

    I've seen the open racism - the hate - everthing change in arizona. Im half white half mexican-

    More times I hear the racism due to being mistaken for just some regular white boy.

    Its disgusting even more so I know part of the demeanor is due to snow birds - their beliefs are outlandishly racist due to their origins.

  • @jokeronyxx Saying "white boy" is racist.

  • La raza does not mean race the same as in English. It means "people". No Language on the earth can be exactly translated into another, you can only approximate.

  • @rafaelguadalupe ... No, la raza is the race, not the people.

  • Wait for it, they'll get rid of the African American history at the first chance...

  • @eragon2121: thanks for the laugh. But I am still siding with the kids.

    how full of it are you? According to you, why CAN'T this kids exercise their rights by protesting-regardless of its timing? Why should they be punished? Is physical labor an appropriate response to their actions?

  • I think that people should clean the toilets. If you don't have a job and need money its an opportunity.

    However, this is just punishment and they can go get fucked. They just don't even want to pay anyone to do it

  • 2:10 Love the last quote "You wanna suspend me, wanna expel me. I'm not cleaning your God damn toilet".

  • Ahh I suppose it was only Cholla High school and 100 or so kids that did the walk out. I wonder if any of them showed up on that Saturday. Still not completely convinced that they would have been asked to do this as it is highly unorthodox.

  • :(

  • this also reminds me of the decision to "whitewash" the history books taking out important figures in history and replacing them with people who spread propaganda and where monsters in there own right. Other then updating them with the current knowledge we have on the subjects in question i would say LEAVE THE DAMN TEXTBOOKS ALONE.

  • if i was those kids or there parents rather i would sue the school district for race discrimination. showing proof that they are teaching other culture histories but not there's. also that they punished you for using your first amendment rights to protest there stupid ban. take these people to the cleaners and show the rest of the country that this kind of crap won't be tolerated.

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  • @Dragonking1984 then could the European background parents sue for not having a European studies? They don't have a European study focused group, oh and the same for Asians, Native Americans, Pacific islanders? What about Eskimos? And this is how you get "alternative history" where you have to do a head nod to each group and then ignore how history really unfolded, and make sure each race/group get's their share of camera time? History class, not an inclusiveness seminar.

  • @Bigbird5553 you wrote as if you were threatened by these clases.

  • @alecton and you feel threatened by having a lack of those classes? I don't just because my genetic/cultural background isn't included.

  • @Bigbird5553 i understand this and true it would become a bit hard to do and yes they do have this option in collage depending on what you are majoring in. but the alternative is what we have now where those in power are trying to re wright history in there favor and "white wash" it to reflect that nothing bad happened and everything was rosy when in reality it is the exact opposite.

  • @Dragonking1984 The same historians that accounted for atrocities during slavery during the 1950's knew the details of slavery and how brutal it was.You don't think they didn't teach that during White dominated 1950's? All of a sudden in modern day all the details will be different because "white wash" wont be there? This is about alternative history, and hero making."this is how it realllyyy happened". It's about flag "waving hurray for what I am". Not history. lets approach it like science

  • @underbjorn

    you don't know American history obviously! Southern States did try to separate from the North but that started a Civil War where the Northern liberals using brutal and subhuman tactics finally prevailed!

  • @genie0390 And let that be a lesson to you, scumbag.

  • Fuck those cocksuckers. They try to make me scrub toilets, they'll be swallowing their own teeth in short order.

  • it's funny that, after whites KILLED MILLIONS OF THE NATIVE AMERICANS AND STOLE THEIR LAND, NOW THEY TALK OF HOW MUCH AMERICANS THEY ARE THAN THE SO CALLED " MEXICANS "

  • @paleoconify well if you want to feel like a white person go back to england..i will help you pack.

  • flee that mad evil country...come to Canada TYT

  • Book Banning is absurd and the Administrators of the school should be forced to do janitorial duty in the school where they work on a regular schoold day so the students can see it.

  • @xephyr1000 They should be fired for this. Nuff said.

  • I am for the banning of no books. I believe everything should be available to reference and learn from, even if they're about things you aren't proud of. I imagine that this stems from some sort of budget they have to continue their curriculum, but in that area, if you don't learn about mexican-american history, you're missing out of your local history. Just saying.

  • BETTER TO DIE ON YOUR FEET, THAN TO LIVE THE REST OF YOUR LIVE ON YOUR KNEES...Zapata.

  • I'd shove the principals head in the toilet, if he told me to clean it.

  • yeah everything has 2 sides to it, don't be jumping into conclusion all of a sudden.. these reporters are just reporting the facts that they were told to report, some stuff is unjust but u hav to see the oposing side's argument, not just blindlessly hate them from what u hear.

  • I agree with Cenk. I would demand to be pulled out of school and home schooled instead. Screw that.

  • That's nothing I bet if they had a Muslim studies program. There would have been lynching and race riots.

  • Sounds like a fascist government in Arizona. Those conservatives want total control and will do anything to suppress the people.

  • I feel bad for those kids :(

  • I'm losing faith in humanity.

  • Well at least they didnt make them mow the lawn.

  • @perpetualparakeet you are right I also live in tucson az and have had my kids in the school system here as far as I know no one is cleaning toilets as punishment those kids have been protesting for months I dont know where they got their info from

  • I go to Tomlin middle school and that happens every Saturday

  • Looking more like the Third Reich everyday.

  • sounds mighty right to me....im native american and if i got messed around looking up first nations history I dunno i wouldnt be cleaning toilets

  • I live in Tucson and the matter is not that simple.

    The auditors failed to determine much of value. Some classes were teaching out and out racist propaganda, many were not. I know from experience that curricula is very loosely enforced in the schools here.

    Something should have been done for sure, but they way they went about it was a complete disaster. Now we have an establishment vs. kids, whites vs. Mexicans type situation. Arguably the worst possible outcome.

  • @PerpetualParakeet Would you say that labeling the supposed "confiscation" as a ban is fair? And were the protests unruly enough to warrant the kind of punishment like a Saturday detention performing janitorial duties?

  • @phagtacular The janitorial duties thing is bad no doubt. I cannot find any information to establish credibility that this is true though, ie. what schools, how many kids, etc. Certainly if it's true that is _horrible_.

    As for your first question there's a statement from TUSD here:

    tinyurl(dot)com/7quf57q

    I find this quite plausible.

  • @PerpetualParakeet I'm not trying to be confrontational, I am just curious

  • @PerpetualParakeet This whole thing is amazing to me.I live in colorado and went to highschool in a "secondary highschool" where it was like 80% mexican, and like 20 % druggie/stoner/broken home white kids, includin gme. And all though i never said anything bad about latinos, the school was plastered with "no tolerance for racial discrimination" posters all over the place. so to hear that a city like tuscon, right next to the border, have this raciscm in the schools bogglesme

  • Arizona is run by fucking racists.

  • If I were still a tucson student I would tell the administrator to suck my cock when they told me to clean the toilets, and then sue the school for violation of first amendment rights, racism, and anything else I can think of. This sounds like a job for the ACLU.

  • That's what happen when people do not vote in local elections or for school boards etc you get shit like this,what!! can't take an after noon to bother to vote??

  • @spider879 Democracy is a lie. Obama did nothing to reverse Bush II's laws like Patriot, and signed in an even more insidious law.

  • Fahrenheit 451 

  • Forcing a minor to perform labor with no pay as punishment for breaking a policy (not any laws)? Isn't that illegal?

  • @TruthAndMoreTruth yes, but most kids dont know this.

  • @manuelschindler Rules only work when people follow them...

  • “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, or of the press; OR THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE PEACEABLY TO ASSEMBLE, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

  • Southern English's last resort.

  • The school has the right to change the curriculum , but the punishment is nonsense .

  • I shun anyone focusing on one group of individuals. If they wished to derive a teaching point from one races view point, thus tells me, they know little. Slavery:felt by at least 10 races through time. Irish and Scottish more than African. Mexicans, you made that everyone hates you? Guess what; my ancestors have been all but extinct....at the least, you have a health blood line and history...it was ripped away from the natives. The next time anyone want to complain, read a Fuckin book n shut it.

  • @griffbcf Those aren't races, those are nationalities and in the case of Africans it's a continent; in which not everyone is black. Mexico consists of mostly Native Americans, so they know of what it's like to reach near extinction levels (mostly due to diseases from Europeans) in population. I'm sorry that Native Americans further north could not recoup their losses the same way natives in other parts could. However that doesn't mean you should make light on the suffering of others.

  • @griffbcf As for the video, I don't see what the issue is about having a book about one group's history in the United States. It's just as much a a part of US history as anyone else's. Although assuming you and I are on the same wavelength, I also agree that a history book should be objective about how it teaches history and not have some kind of biased agenda to push.

  • I am an Irish-indigenous"native" American. Have learned in school nothing of other races including my Irish race and the majority of my soux(native) tribe. Main race points;African American and Hispanic. I say African American because I know plenty of races(Puerto Rican) that have people who's skin tones are comparable.

  • @Dye6666 First off what the hell are you talking about? Second I do get the pride of your own race, but it depends on what kind of pride.

  • @kanoshhsonak Their program taught terrorism and hate for whites. What kind of pride do you think is bad?

  • This story is fucked up, what the hell? Is this for real? If I was one of those students I would elaborate the fault of their decision policy or whatever. Then I would shove their fucked up racist heads into one of the toilets have them clean up the restrooms to be punished for such stupidity! I'm native American and proud of it, native pride!

  • @kanoshhsonak They are the racist for what they taught. White pride!

  • @dye6666 oh that's why most Mexicans are brown and Spaniards are white? O wait derp

  • @arvvaking The Spanish mixed with Natives. That means many have Spanish ancestry.

  • Here in Australia, in my last leg of school, the gov't began an initiative to teach the Indigenous Australian stories of the colonisation, and beyond. Until then, we were taught next to nothing about White Australia Policy, or got to read historical accounts of settlers burying babies up to their neck and kicking their ... anyway, though the books made the White Supremacists angry, the knowledge has made Australia stronger, as did Prime Minister Rudd's monumental acknowledgment of that history.

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  • @Dye6666 yah just like how white savages flooded america and took the land from native americans and mexicans you make alot of sence

  • @omgwateverlol Why do you bring up the past? We weren't even alive. Do you know who made Mexico? The Spanish did. Most Mexicans have European ancestry. You're not Aztecs. Grow up.

  • @Dye6666 No i was alive because im jesus your going to hell bitch

  • @Dye6666 No "aztecs" didn't exist. That's a modern word coined by Alexander von Humboldt separating the ancient mexicans. who just called themselves mexica.

    how about you grow up and actually research. mexico existed 200 years prior to the spanish conquest.

  • @Dye6666 your a fucking disgrace to all humans you refer others that arent white savages? YOUR THE FUCKING SAVAGE LOOK AT WHAT YOUR SAYING YOUR PROVING THE POINT THAT RACISM STILL EXISTS GO FUCKING KILL YOUR SELF YOU KKK MOTHER FUCKER

  • @omgwateverlol Ya. Letting people know that Mexicans in America are being taught to hate white people is racist Ok.

  • @Dye6666 Hey you best respect me YOU WILL REFER TO ME AS SIR OR IM GONNA TAKE OF MY BELT. I AM A 70 YEAR OLD WHITE MAN AND I DONT NEED TO JOIN A WHITE SUPREMACIST KKK BULL SHIT CULT TO FEEL GOOD GO KILL YOURSELF.

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  • @UberNoodleX

    Which sounds entirely juxtaposed to South Carolina Republicans who ignorantly embrace their racist roots.

  • Build that wall or gtfo and stfu. You don't like Mexicans? Don't make it so easy for them to get in. Don't make it so appealing.

  • Hey Iive in tucson, Im not mexican and I don't hate mexicans!! IT'S ALL THOSE RICH ASS HOLES, NOT US REGULAR PEOPLE STOP HATING ON US!!

  • I was one of those students - I threw my cleaning utensils down and said 'fuck you!' And was suspended.

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  • If a student prostests a school's decision to outlaw education on their culture, they get punished? And the punishment is stereotypical hard labor? Tuscon Unified School District is a cabal of racists.

  • @AJEdaAssassin31491 It truly is a cabal of racists - and to say so is to call a spade a spade. The question is - what are we, those that are not in the state, going to do about it? I quite frankly, am not going to stand for this kind of racism in our education system that works to actively eradicate the cultural understanding and identity of ethnic groups, due to the paranoid fears that white racists have about hispanics understanding how badly they have been treated by white supremacists.

  • Fuck TYT. LaRaza(TheRace) studies teaches brown people that whites are occupying their land and they should be killed off. TYT is obviously anti-white.

  • @Dye6666 What about the hosts?

  • @Dye6666 You're a god damn paranoid racist idiot and that's not what they teach at all. The 'should be killed off' part anyway - it is simply a statement of historical fact that whites kicked hispanics and native Americans off their land. It is just like the right wing in this country to take people teaching education and then make a ridiculous vile strawman of their position in order to undermine and destroy that education - they pull this crap on global warming & evolution too.

  • @Dye6666 The fuck are you talking about? That's the weirdest set of gibberish I have ever heard in my damn life. Anti white!? How the fuck are they anti white? When have they EVER shown any tendency towards being anti white? Fuck man, I've seen stupid before, but you're the epitome of stupid.