Bleach: starting was good, but then it just got shit after that..it only had one good opning song wich was 6..too many fillers...no character devolopment no proper story line..
Naruto: story line is the best ive seen...most of the opning songs are just epic...lots of character devolpment..so many twist's...just pure epicness
@TheImran66 seriously BLEACH has too many fillers? naruto has too many and it confuses people like how do they go on these random missions and stuff. and bleach has a great progressive storyline and character development, while focusing on ichigo and how he develops and refines his powers y dont you just skip the stupid archs (espesially the fucking bount arch wich is total crap)
This isn't an argument over who characters are stronger because obviously DBZ wins. Just saying because that's what iv'e seen Bleach fans keep bringing up.
Naruto's visuals aren't as great as Bleach but unfortunately Naruto wins by a long shot. Bleach is dead story-wise and character wise. (TOO MANY POP OUT OF THE BLUE SKILLS AND ENEMIES) no big character development.Naruto is alive and story packed. Characters actually make sense in the past and present time. No popped out new enemies or uncalled for fillers all the time. And HUGE character development!
Naruto by a long shot, the creator of Bleach doesn't even like his manga\anime anymore. He's just trying to milk it for all it's got but the cow died a LONG time ago.
Gay ninjas in bright colors who kissed each other vs death gods with zanpakutos that are all unique with different abilities, huge battles, bankais, hollows, fullbring, quincys, espadas,
Naruto: kid with demon that can destroy everything it sees and can rip energy out of you and no one can stop it unless it calm the fck down or is sealed by Yamato, plus sage mode which will beat the fck out of you, plus his rasengan which will send you flying.
@stanleythedoogle but then the kyuubi would be able to touch ichigo because he is a ghost and the kyuubi wouldn't be able to see ichigo either because you need spiritual pressure for that
@pinkrose984 He has spiritual pressure(yin or yang chakra=spiritual power) but even if you continue to argue against this naruto can sense emotions and use this to pinpoint people's locations. And he's intangible because he's a ghost? Chad hit hollows with telephone poles.
Aizen would effortless take on any warriors of Naruto. Tobi would easily escape. If Sasuke launches the lightning dragon, Ulquiorra would fire cero and destroy that lightning dragon. Kakuzo would use his elemental powers on Ichigo who would easily escape. Hidan is immortal so I bet Grimmjow or Noitra would be perfect. Byakuya would use bankai on Itachi who use amateratsu. Kakashi would be a perfect match. Kisame would fight Harribel. Saori would fight Aporro Granz.
@VenomofReaper97 bleach isnt really that mature....anybody can watch it....both bleach and naruto is rated TV-14 just to get this straight.....and if u dont believe me search it urself...they both hav blood,fighting,cussing,and nude....does that sovle ur problem
Ichigo cant be able to hadle the speed of a mass clones-kyuubi-mode naruto so dont try to say that ichigo destroy a fckin gate.. In a fight its a bit different cause the gate ain't attack you man.. but i know that ichigo is fast but i dont think he could handle a a mass clones when they can all have a rasengan in any form style.. And if 2 or 3 clones want to do a bijuu bomb and they flash after on ichigo, this would be some rape.
@flash82792 True story, but i still think that a guys that is able the break the gates of hell and be feare by the demons of hell so they they have to give him their power is realy powerfulll! But no doubt Naruto is a gifted and strong guy, and with he's parents power and the nine tail fox... awesome battle.
@apocalipticaftw Yeah I'm say bleach could win too but when it's a debate over which anime could win in a fight you gotta use evidence from manga or what happens on the show that isn't filler, those movies are cool but it's not canon
naruto only have half of kyuubi power so i cant say what would be is true destructive power lvl.. but if you say, to kill a soul reaper you need a zanpakuto, i dont understand how a Quincy could kill a soul reaper and ichigo isn't supposed to be a human in theory? I know that he got a good resistance, but to resist a couple of flash bijuu bomb's vs naruto? I dont think so. Cause if is bijuu bomb seems to be even equal or bigger than 5 bijuu bomb focus together. Kyuubi half power would be huge.
@Guillaumeanime91 He couldn't resist a regular jinchuriki's bijuu bomb let alone naruto's. His durability peaks at town level, at that point he receives damage such as burned arm ect.
Town level is about 1/110 of mountain btw where ordinary bijuu bomb is.
@Guillaumeanime91 Yeah I guess you can say Ichigo really isn't a whole human because his dad is a soul reaper, but Urahara probably only said you need a zanpakuto because everyone thought quincys were wiped out but a quincy can use pure rietsu which can be found anywhere and completely destroy a soul instead of purifying like the konso of the zanpakuto that's why soul reapers thought quincys were a threat and went to war with them
@TheLastDragon972 you are really over thinking this in that case you would need a Zanpakuto to fight hollows aswell right? So are we forgetting Chad punched one in the face before he got his fullbring powers or that he beat the living shit out of one with a street lamp.
@tindle96 not over thinking anything it said so in the manga and anime but yeah chad is a fullbringer so he had hollow powers since birth and they started developing once he started to become more spiritually aware of what was going on. when soul reapers beat a hollow with a zanpakuto they purify the soul and it goes to soul society or hell if they were bad when they were still human.
So naruto and sasuke power lvl are almost becoming the power of the the rikudo sennin. But if like itachi who use is susanoo to seal nagato, sasuke could have some tremendous power lvl just if we talk about the susanoo and the shield he got on it. sasuke susano+amaterasu could be a good jutsu for 7 days lol
the nine tails fox demon is seems as one of the part of juubi the demon who've been split cause he was a huge amount of power. I know naruto sage-mode is natural energy. But if ichigo is only human or not is resistance could be bigger. cause naruto power lvl is some brute force, he isn't already at is true god power. And if itachi is seem to be a direct descendant of rikudo sennin, he would had access enormous power and surpass madara.
no way it is considered small and he didn't have his mask, he wasn't full hollow, and transform yet. lets just say naruto can see a shinigami how would he hit him or kill him since the manga stated the only way to kill a soul reaper or hollow is with a zanpaktuto, and there is no way people can say naruto characters won't be affected by kidos which is demon magic, or bankais which all have different effect
@TheLastDragon972 compared to the explosion it was small, but is it small as in small? no. now can i see that chapter? google is a fucker i cant find it anywhere.
@TheLastDragon972 Alright i watched the anime because i couldnt find the shit it was about the same size the explosion was calced at, townlevel. The volume of rock destroyed is anywhere from 9 million M3 volume-18 million on calcs i found just this minute, so its mid end townlevel. A mountain has about 1billion M3 of volume so that is why fragor has a long way to go. TLDR version: a mountain buster kills them
@stanleythedoogle yeah sorry I just got my w-2 so I went to file my tax returns, but if you still wanna read it I think its chapter 417 to 421, I thought it was crazy how aizen is so powered up and he did the full kido of the black coffin and Ichigo rips through time and space to break out. whats the chapter with naruto taking out a mountain i never read that one and are you a scientist?
@TheLastDragon972 hell no i am no scientist :p theyre just things you pick up from looking around the internet. Aizen vs ichigo was hands down the best fight in bleach. and i am going by chapter 571 in naruto where a single lower jinchurikis bijuu bomb was far larger than a mountain and kakashi said a mountain just vanished when they hit. Naruto is about to overpower 5 of them with his own.
@stanleythedoogle thanks man I'll check it out, but yeah my favorite fight would have to be either ichigo vs byakuya and ichigo vs ulquiorra I can't pick between the two. Do you know who barragan is?
@stanleythedoogle to be fair they were bijuu bombs which is one of the jinchurikis strongest attacks and ichigo blew the mountain only with a swing of his sword
@silvlux Ichigo did blow away a rock formation with a swing of a sword, it was impressive but it wasn't exactly a mountain. calculated 80 metres in height using the small bush in front of it.
As i saw aizen beat a lot of characters in bleach cause he's pretty strong and is illusions was a good technique vs is enemies. So as some ppl knows, itachi is a fuckin expert-genjutsu user, then i think itachi would defeat aizen and ichigo just for sayin even if itachi could had a full potential cause of the mangekyo-eternal and became even stronger at the end of the line than madara uchicha. cause as we know itachi is a direct descendant of the rikudo sennin. itachi susanoo could sealed too.
@Guillaumeanime91 Sharingan users cannot use genjutsu on someone who doesn't have a chakra network, susanoo and amaterasu would be his only good techniques to use.
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie it is just a excuse from bleach and one piece fanboys who don't want to see their fav characters got beaten easy with that attack, lol if you wanna compare in fair way you should let them use their all powers..
@8PASALI7 It doesn't make sense, genjutsu affects chakra networks and if you don't have a chakra network how can you use it? and im the one making excuses, naruto chars shouldn't even be able to see bleach chars but im giving them that one anymore freebies is just stupid. Genjutsu cannot and will not effect them it doesn't matter whether you want it to or not. And by the way i like naruto way more than bleach and Itachi is actually my fav anime character of all time.
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie yes but if they can't see them and use their all powers that would not be a fair fight..cause genjutsu is one of the most effective attacks of sharingan users..
If they could fight in a battle it would be pretty nice but the fact is that naruto is a wind master element and he could cut the sword of ichigo like butter if we see this in that way. but for the moment, these 2 ain't are at there true potentials and naruto seems to be in a good way to became the rikudo sennin. but for now we cant say that there would be a winner between those 2. naruto-bijuu-mode isn't perfect but the flash-bijuu-bomb + some naru-kyuubi-clones would be a freakin combo :P
Ichigo taking over hell is just a movie and not in the manga so that can't be used, it's more like a what if. Even with that taken out Ichigo would still come out the winner.
@TheLastDragon972 He could only beat current naruto by outlasting him in dangai but even that would be a stretch, MB's have massive AOE and naruto himself is extremely fast, he caught a bijuu off guard from kilometers in the sky.
@stanleythedoogle you do know the different effects of each characters bakai right, then there are the different kidos that could make a person pass out, bind, and create force fields. beside that bleach characters have been known to take a lot of damage like kenpachi who is so strong he hasn't even revealed his release form or bankai
@TheLastDragon972 I do know them but they won't really change the outcome much. Kenpachi via powerscaling wont change much also, and he'll be dead before he could use it.
@stanleythedoogle How will some of the death gods most powerful attack not change the outcome much? Yeah Naruto characters are powerful but they are not invincible.
@stanleythedoogle So none of the attacks aizen did throughout the whole series won't do anything? Byakuya, Tousen, Yamamoto, Ulquiorra, and Ichigo at his strongest can't do anything.
@TheLastDragon972 After a long while they could but you have to remember naruto isn't a goddamn statue, he could vaporize them all with a single attack.
@stanleythedoogle Well yeah he isn't a statue anyone knows that and we know he is fast, but you act like bleach characters can't dodge or block anything. They are not just gonna stand there and take it. I know this is off topic but maybe if it was someone powerful like goku that could take them out in one attack then yeah but its not.
@TheLastDragon972 The AOE of a fodder Bijuu's MB is about 6 km( pretty much undodgeable even if you know everything about the attack) Naruto's Bijuu bomb is powerful enough to overpower FIVE of those, by scaling it should have ATLEAST a 10km AOE undodgeable by ANY bleach character. Also none of them have mountain level durability so blocking is pretty much out of the question. And not "mountain" as in the one ichigo broke, mountain as in MOUNTAIN.
@stanleythedoogle check out Ichigo vs Aizen then tell me that again, they caused so much destruction just by swinging their swords, aizen had a attack that look like a nuclear bomb went off plus Ichigo's attack mugetsu which means fuck everything in this direction
@TheLastDragon972 they have cityblock+ casual slash destruction, it is nice but still not enough. And Fragor doesn't really look like a nuke it looks more like a giant beam. Its a town level attack, not enough to destroy mountains where kyuubi's durability is. And mugetsu? featless, probably somewhere around city level but that's just pure assumption.
@TheLastDragon972 It would probably cut through it but that's different from mountain level destruction. Mountain level destruction means turning the WHOLE mountain to dust, vaporizing it ect. Cutting it would only destroy a very small amount. About a ruffles chip(the amount of rock sliced compared to a potato(whole mountain).
@TheLastDragon972 He sort of is THAT strong. A sage mode naruto effortlessly tossed a 200,000 ton+ rhino into the sky(calculations for it being 90m in height, not length) that is around 12 million ton arm strength. RM(stronger than SM mode naruto )could hardly lift a small MB. Current naruto can hit 5 that are 50x larger like baseballs for distances of 10km+.
@stanleythedoogle and you must think bleach characters are that weak if you think they would be killed in one hit. did you did the math yourself or was it used in the manga
@stanleythedoogle with the damage Ichigo and aizen were making during their fight and how it wasn't even affecting them at all I'm pretty sure they will make it out alive, they are gonna be pretty banged up but alive unless Ichigo transforms to getsuga then he would have a better chance
@stanleythedoogle dude they were just swinging their swords and causing so much destruction, just swinging their swords now just what would happen if they actually hit it? plus the crater aizen make that ichigo was standing over was one of the biggest craters I have ever seen and ichigo took it like almost nothing.
@TheLastDragon972 As i was saying earlier they have casual Cityblock+(new york for example would have a few 1000) destruction. Hachibi whirlwhind however was city sized destruction just by spinning. and kyuubi is far stronger than hachibi. Also, the crater aizen made was fairly small actually, its explosion was town level.
@stanleythedoogle idiot, bleach chars do not have chakra networks, chakra and spiritual pressure are different and naruto cannot sense emotions and would only know where ichigo or any othere shinigami is by them slashing him from a certain position
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie Chakra networks are irrelevant. Reatsu and chakra are both spiratual pressure so we will accept them as the same thing. And the only character that can even sense chakra is karin, naruto sensed kisame's emotions and used them to pinpoint his location then hammered him. So even if we go for your bullshit naruto, just soloes them.
@stanleythedoogle you really are stupid they are not the same thing, at what point in bleach have you seen any sign of reiatsu being the same as chakra networks and Naruto soloing bleachverse are you insane, he cannot see shinigami and he cannot simply pinpoint there location they are SOULS, DEATH GODS and even if he could sense them he would get speed blitz within a few seconds, mayuris bankai has the power to poison which naruto has no counter against, tosens bankai cuts of
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie They are both spiratual pressure and if you're going to continue your unreasonable bullshit fine think what you like. Anyways, he senses EMOTIONS you fool, when Bleach characters are robots let me know. And he's getting blitzed? hell fucking no, he caught a bijuu off guard from kilometres away, the only person faster would be dangai ichigo(he actually helps my first argument from the fact he could see aizen without his reatsu)
@stanleythedoogle all senses and leaves you helpless to attack, yumichika full shikai release has the power to suck out your spiritual energy, ulquiorra second release has one of the strongest ceros among the espada and instant regeneration, senbonzakura kageyoshi billion blades is extremely hard to dodge and narutos stupidity would cause his defeat by it in mere minutes. must i go on? your argument is weak naruto cannot solo bleachverse, he loses 1 on 1 to mayuri.
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie and NONE of these examples you brought up even come close to matching naruto's mountain level durability. The worst thing that could happen to naruto is that he loses his senses, he just fires a blind MB and the whole battlefield goes to hell.
@stanleythedoogle well he did use it in the anime movie even if its non canan its still evedince he did it. but even with out it ichigo can beat naruto as naruto hasent barryer.
@TheZKProductions Lee made sonic booms powerscale from that naruto supersonic+ but those are low end, use something like pain dodging FRS(crossed 2km in less than a secound 2000 m/s or around 5.5x supersonic) then you get a hypersonic+ current naruto.
@stanleythedoogle thats still not a sonic boom. Rock lee just bonced from place to place even a simple flash step is faster than that. pain doged? not doged but the attcks wernt even aiming it was just rapid fire. Even yorichi could take doen 100men in less than a second and thats not even Shunkō :/ ichigo can cut 10k pettals within a second :/
@TheZKProductions Those were sonic booms, bouncing from "walls to wall" would not produce shockwaves UNLESS you are bouncing at a supersonic speed. And this is not necessary seeing as we have pain's speed to scale from.
@TheZKProductions And even if you don't like that one, we have gai moving fast enough in morning peacock to vaporize basically a tsunami of water. That is mach8+
@stanleythedoogle well nothing was heared like a snonic boom (make that a theory then). Gia is pure tijustu (cant spell that sorry :P) so his max speed to reach is terminal velocity as he dosent have any real super power and terminal velocity is not mach 8 -.-
i used to like bleach better but now face it naruto ftw
FFFFFFFFFFFFFyourmom 1 day ago
bleach is just awesome + epic
mkawlliot 3 days ago
Ok lets be seriouse
Bleach: starting was good, but then it just got shit after that..it only had one good opning song wich was 6..too many fillers...no character devolopment no proper story line..
Naruto: story line is the best ive seen...most of the opning songs are just epic...lots of character devolpment..so many twist's...just pure epicness
Naruto Wins...seriousley
TheImran66 4 days ago
@TheImran66 seriously BLEACH has too many fillers? naruto has too many and it confuses people like how do they go on these random missions and stuff. and bleach has a great progressive storyline and character development, while focusing on ichigo and how he develops and refines his powers y dont you just skip the stupid archs (espesially the fucking bount arch wich is total crap)
zdogiil 3 days ago
@TheImran66 ichigo fight men in his filler naruto fights ostriches....
TheZKProductions 3 days ago
Bleach Manga is just epicness right now. Declaring war on yamamoto is like declaring war on chuck norris
MugiwaraNoGintoki 4 days ago
I came here just to read d comments...:p
pratik123123123 4 days ago
NARUTO RULES!!!! bleach sucks my ****
steaminlavaboy 5 days ago
@steaminlavaboy you suck my ****
MugiwaraNoGintoki 4 days ago
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AQWkrutoy 6 days ago
ichigo would kill naruto
ComicCarter 6 days ago
Bitch please, I use BLEACH to clean my laundry
strongmage80 1 week ago
@strongmage80 No Oxyclean?
TheLastDragon972 1 week ago
This isn't an argument over who characters are stronger because obviously DBZ wins. Just saying because that's what iv'e seen Bleach fans keep bringing up.
Saizkage 2 weeks ago
@Saizkage ttgl owns dbz and so on....
TheZKProductions 2 weeks ago
@TheZKProductions whats ttgl?
TheLastDragon972 1 week ago
@TheLastDragon972 a big fighting robot of epicness from the anime called gurran lagann
TheZKProductions 1 week ago
@TheZKProductions thanks man I'm gonna check it out.
TheLastDragon972 1 week ago
@TheZKProductions Robots the size of fucking galaxies.
stanleythedoogle 1 week ago
@stanleythedoogle i know epic :D!!!
TheZKProductions 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
funny NOTHING owns DBZ :3
dcervantesify 6 days ago
Naruto's visuals aren't as great as Bleach but unfortunately Naruto wins by a long shot. Bleach is dead story-wise and character wise. (TOO MANY POP OUT OF THE BLUE SKILLS AND ENEMIES) no big character development.Naruto is alive and story packed. Characters actually make sense in the past and present time. No popped out new enemies or uncalled for fillers all the time. And HUGE character development!
Saizkage 2 weeks ago
Bleach is 10x better than Naruto
and its true naruto is a cartoon network show
DevilMayCryolo 2 weeks ago
Naruto by a long shot, the creator of Bleach doesn't even like his manga\anime anymore. He's just trying to milk it for all it's got but the cow died a LONG time ago.
TTKChristo 2 weeks ago
Bleach wins
LasPingas123 2 weeks ago
Bad
DebrisBD317 2 weeks ago
Gay ninjas in bright colors who kissed each other vs death gods with zanpakutos that are all unique with different abilities, huge battles, bankais, hollows, fullbring, quincys, espadas,
You decide
TheLastDragon972 2 weeks ago
@TheLastDragon972 That's a very biased view you have there
DunkinDigletts 2 weeks ago
@DunkinDigletts Did it for the lulz and the butt hurt it would cause
TheLastDragon972 2 weeks ago
@TheLastDragon972 Gay ninjas in bright colors who kissed each other .
Arimidaful 2 weeks ago
@Arimidaful Lmao, you got my respect
TheLastDragon972 2 weeks ago
@hellball5 Time skip... Check your sources before you comment.
Toshino2452 2 weeks ago
Naruto: kid with demon that can destroy everything it sees and can rip energy out of you and no one can stop it unless it calm the fck down or is sealed by Yamato, plus sage mode which will beat the fck out of you, plus his rasengan which will send you flying.
Vs
Bleach: wierdo with a sword
You decide
MrChalky51 2 weeks ago
@MoNNekoAlways Shippuden= 3 year time skip.
Toshino2452 3 weeks ago
bleach for the win ^^
Xenxable 3 weeks ago
Naruto = little kid with ninja powers
Bleach = Bad Ass Shinigami
Now you choose.
MoNNekoAlways 3 weeks ago
@MoNNekoAlways ...Kyuubi= All destroying, rage-filled demon beast.
Ichigo=casper the ghost?
Hehe, i win.
stanleythedoogle 3 weeks ago
@stanleythedoogle no a shinigami is actully a god...
hellball5 2 weeks ago
@stanleythedoogle but then the kyuubi would be able to touch ichigo because he is a ghost and the kyuubi wouldn't be able to see ichigo either because you need spiritual pressure for that
pinkrose984 2 weeks ago
@pinkrose984 He has spiritual pressure(yin or yang chakra=spiritual power) but even if you continue to argue against this naruto can sense emotions and use this to pinpoint people's locations. And he's intangible because he's a ghost? Chad hit hollows with telephone poles.
stanleythedoogle 2 weeks ago
@stanleythedoogle yeah thats true but he also had rukia's help
pinkrose984 2 weeks ago
@MoNNekoAlways What do you mean little kid? Naruto is now 16 (maybe older) years old and Ichigo is 17.
Toshino2452 3 weeks ago
@Toshino2452 ive never seen naruto so i wouldnt know, i just guessed cause he looks like a 12 year old
MoNNekoAlways 3 weeks ago
@Toshino2452 actully ichigo is 15
hellball5 2 weeks ago
ami en lo personal es mas genial bleach que naruto
Deyris1995 3 weeks ago
@Deyris1995 bienvenido!! ×Ð
Xenxable 3 weeks ago
kimmimaro kaguya ( bones manipulation and armor ) vs grimmjow would be nice.. sasori could fight an army for sure.
Guillaumeanime91 3 weeks ago
Lol susanoo of Itachi rape for sure, byakuya couldn't even scratch him and he get sealed after is body have been burn for 7 days..
Guillaumeanime91 3 weeks ago
Aizen would effortless take on any warriors of Naruto. Tobi would easily escape. If Sasuke launches the lightning dragon, Ulquiorra would fire cero and destroy that lightning dragon. Kakuzo would use his elemental powers on Ichigo who would easily escape. Hidan is immortal so I bet Grimmjow or Noitra would be perfect. Byakuya would use bankai on Itachi who use amateratsu. Kakashi would be a perfect match. Kisame would fight Harribel. Saori would fight Aporro Granz.
Where's Kenpachi?
TheLatiosnlatias02 3 weeks ago
Naruto is more like a kid's show compared to Bleach. Not to mention their are far more appealing things in Bleach. Bleach ftw!!
VenomofReaper97 4 weeks ago
@VenomofReaper97 hav u ever watched shippuden....i didnt think so
Blue5636 3 weeks ago
@Blue5636 Have you ever watched Bleach? I didn't think so..
VenomofReaper97 3 weeks ago
@VenomofReaper97 i have...
Blue5636 3 weeks ago
@Blue5636 Its a known fact that Bleach is more into Teens or more mature than the Naruto series...
VenomofReaper97 3 weeks ago
@VenomofReaper97 prove it
Blue5636 3 weeks ago
@Blue5636 Look at the TV rating, the violence, language, nude or stuff like that and the fact it airs on Adult Swim.
VenomofReaper97 3 weeks ago
@VenomofReaper97 there is language, partial nude, and of course violence on naruto....if u actually WATCH IT
Blue5636 3 weeks ago
@Blue5636 Ya PG wise. While Bleach is more on the mature side. Its simply like this:
Naruto=kids
Bleach=teens or adults
VenomofReaper97 3 weeks ago
@VenomofReaper97 bleach isnt really that mature....anybody can watch it....both bleach and naruto is rated TV-14 just to get this straight.....and if u dont believe me search it urself...they both hav blood,fighting,cussing,and nude....does that sovle ur problem
Blue5636 3 weeks ago
@Blue5636 Explain to me why Naruto is on cartoon network? Why i Bleach on adults swim? Its a fact that Bleach is more aimed towards the teen group.
VenomofReaper97 3 weeks ago
@VenomofReaper97 because they took off the blood and cussing....plus it WAS on cartoon network....now that there is shippuden they dont show it on CN
Blue5636 3 weeks ago
Ichigo cant be able to hadle the speed of a mass clones-kyuubi-mode naruto so dont try to say that ichigo destroy a fckin gate.. In a fight its a bit different cause the gate ain't attack you man.. but i know that ichigo is fast but i dont think he could handle a a mass clones when they can all have a rasengan in any form style.. And if 2 or 3 clones want to do a bijuu bomb and they flash after on ichigo, this would be some rape.
Guillaumeanime91 4 weeks ago
@Guillaumeanime91 ichigo vs byakuya
TheLastDragon972 4 weeks ago
Both anime are great but i prefer naruto
Kitrenal 1 month ago 18
@Kitrenal Your argument is invalid , Bleach so much better
WeeZz95 1 month ago
Have naruto ever been to hell? Destroy the gates of hell and walk out like nothing happend?
NO
Ok. Ichigo win!
apocalipticaftw 1 month ago
@apocalipticaftw Naruto's been thru hell all his life...
flash82792 1 month ago 9
@flash82792 True story, but i still think that a guys that is able the break the gates of hell and be feare by the demons of hell so they they have to give him their power is realy powerfulll! But no doubt Naruto is a gifted and strong guy, and with he's parents power and the nine tail fox... awesome battle.
apocalipticaftw 1 month ago
@apocalipticaftw Hell and everything related to it in bleach is non-canonical.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle Well then if you say so! End of discussion
apocalipticaftw 1 month ago
@apocalipticaftw Yeah I'm say bleach could win too but when it's a debate over which anime could win in a fight you gotta use evidence from manga or what happens on the show that isn't filler, those movies are cool but it's not canon
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@apocalipticaftw Yes naruto's had its share of non-canon bullshit.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle what?
apocalipticaftw 1 month ago
wait matter fact i have to say the kyurrb sumthin like that wins i dont think they can withsatnd the heat
flyboyissac1 1 month ago
im srry naruto but bleach wins it but by a small thread
flyboyissac1 1 month ago
Naruto manga right now is real epic
ododod767 1 month ago 24
bleach is supposedly on it's last arc now, heard quincys are coming back for blood
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
naruto only have half of kyuubi power so i cant say what would be is true destructive power lvl.. but if you say, to kill a soul reaper you need a zanpakuto, i dont understand how a Quincy could kill a soul reaper and ichigo isn't supposed to be a human in theory? I know that he got a good resistance, but to resist a couple of flash bijuu bomb's vs naruto? I dont think so. Cause if is bijuu bomb seems to be even equal or bigger than 5 bijuu bomb focus together. Kyuubi half power would be huge.
Guillaumeanime91 1 month ago
@Guillaumeanime91 He couldn't resist a regular jinchuriki's bijuu bomb let alone naruto's. His durability peaks at town level, at that point he receives damage such as burned arm ect.
Town level is about 1/110 of mountain btw where ordinary bijuu bomb is.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@Guillaumeanime91 Yeah I guess you can say Ichigo really isn't a whole human because his dad is a soul reaper, but Urahara probably only said you need a zanpakuto because everyone thought quincys were wiped out but a quincy can use pure rietsu which can be found anywhere and completely destroy a soul instead of purifying like the konso of the zanpakuto that's why soul reapers thought quincys were a threat and went to war with them
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 you are really over thinking this in that case you would need a Zanpakuto to fight hollows aswell right? So are we forgetting Chad punched one in the face before he got his fullbring powers or that he beat the living shit out of one with a street lamp.
tindle96 1 month ago
@tindle96 not over thinking anything it said so in the manga and anime but yeah chad is a fullbringer so he had hollow powers since birth and they started developing once he started to become more spiritually aware of what was going on. when soul reapers beat a hollow with a zanpakuto they purify the soul and it goes to soul society or hell if they were bad when they were still human.
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
So naruto and sasuke power lvl are almost becoming the power of the the rikudo sennin. But if like itachi who use is susanoo to seal nagato, sasuke could have some tremendous power lvl just if we talk about the susanoo and the shield he got on it. sasuke susano+amaterasu could be a good jutsu for 7 days lol
Guillaumeanime91 1 month ago
the nine tails fox demon is seems as one of the part of juubi the demon who've been split cause he was a huge amount of power. I know naruto sage-mode is natural energy. But if ichigo is only human or not is resistance could be bigger. cause naruto power lvl is some brute force, he isn't already at is true god power. And if itachi is seem to be a direct descendant of rikudo sennin, he would had access enormous power and surpass madara.
Guillaumeanime91 1 month ago
no way it is considered small and he didn't have his mask, he wasn't full hollow, and transform yet. lets just say naruto can see a shinigami how would he hit him or kill him since the manga stated the only way to kill a soul reaper or hollow is with a zanpaktuto, and there is no way people can say naruto characters won't be affected by kidos which is demon magic, or bankais which all have different effect
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 compared to the explosion it was small, but is it small as in small? no. now can i see that chapter? google is a fucker i cant find it anywhere.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 And the only way to kill an uchiha is with an uchiha, same shit.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 Alright i watched the anime because i couldnt find the shit it was about the same size the explosion was calced at, townlevel. The volume of rock destroyed is anywhere from 9 million M3 volume-18 million on calcs i found just this minute, so its mid end townlevel. A mountain has about 1billion M3 of volume so that is why fragor has a long way to go. TLDR version: a mountain buster kills them
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle yeah sorry I just got my w-2 so I went to file my tax returns, but if you still wanna read it I think its chapter 417 to 421, I thought it was crazy how aizen is so powered up and he did the full kido of the black coffin and Ichigo rips through time and space to break out. whats the chapter with naruto taking out a mountain i never read that one and are you a scientist?
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 hell no i am no scientist :p theyre just things you pick up from looking around the internet. Aizen vs ichigo was hands down the best fight in bleach. and i am going by chapter 571 in naruto where a single lower jinchurikis bijuu bomb was far larger than a mountain and kakashi said a mountain just vanished when they hit. Naruto is about to overpower 5 of them with his own.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle thanks man I'll check it out, but yeah my favorite fight would have to be either ichigo vs byakuya and ichigo vs ulquiorra I can't pick between the two. Do you know who barragan is?
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 ive never read bleach but i know enough about it to know barragan. He has respira which is pretty hax but not really unstoppable.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle what does hax mean?
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 like a rigged ability.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle I don't understand how his ability is rigged
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle am not a fanboy on either i honestly think both animes are great. am not hating or anything am just making a point :)
silvlux 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle to be fair they were bijuu bombs which is one of the jinchurikis strongest attacks and ichigo blew the mountain only with a swing of his sword
silvlux 1 month ago
@silvlux Ichigo did blow away a rock formation with a swing of a sword, it was impressive but it wasn't exactly a mountain. calculated 80 metres in height using the small bush in front of it.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
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As i saw aizen beat a lot of characters in bleach cause he's pretty strong and is illusions was a good technique vs is enemies. So as some ppl knows, itachi is a fuckin expert-genjutsu user, then i think itachi would defeat aizen and ichigo just for sayin even if itachi could had a full potential cause of the mangekyo-eternal and became even stronger at the end of the line than madara uchicha. cause as we know itachi is a direct descendant of the rikudo sennin. itachi susanoo could sealed too.
Guillaumeanime91 1 month ago
@Guillaumeanime91 Sharingan users cannot use genjutsu on someone who doesn't have a chakra network, susanoo and amaterasu would be his only good techniques to use.
WaveyJdoTnorthweezie 1 month ago
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie they can use, chakra is just a symbol to show power levels of characters, like ki in dragonball z or reiatsu in bleach
8PASALI7 1 month ago
@8PASALI7 Did you even read my comment? i said chakra NETWORKS bleachverse and dbverse do not have them, genjutsu is ineffective.
WaveyJdoTnorthweezie 1 month ago
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie it is just a excuse from bleach and one piece fanboys who don't want to see their fav characters got beaten easy with that attack, lol if you wanna compare in fair way you should let them use their all powers..
8PASALI7 1 month ago
@8PASALI7 It doesn't make sense, genjutsu affects chakra networks and if you don't have a chakra network how can you use it? and im the one making excuses, naruto chars shouldn't even be able to see bleach chars but im giving them that one anymore freebies is just stupid. Genjutsu cannot and will not effect them it doesn't matter whether you want it to or not. And by the way i like naruto way more than bleach and Itachi is actually my fav anime character of all time.
WaveyJdoTnorthweezie 1 month ago
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie yes but if they can't see them and use their all powers that would not be a fair fight..cause genjutsu is one of the most effective attacks of sharingan users..
8PASALI7 1 month ago
If they could fight in a battle it would be pretty nice but the fact is that naruto is a wind master element and he could cut the sword of ichigo like butter if we see this in that way. but for the moment, these 2 ain't are at there true potentials and naruto seems to be in a good way to became the rikudo sennin. but for now we cant say that there would be a winner between those 2. naruto-bijuu-mode isn't perfect but the flash-bijuu-bomb + some naru-kyuubi-clones would be a freakin combo :P
Guillaumeanime91 1 month ago
Ichigo taking over hell is just a movie and not in the manga so that can't be used, it's more like a what if. Even with that taken out Ichigo would still come out the winner.
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 He could only beat current naruto by outlasting him in dangai but even that would be a stretch, MB's have massive AOE and naruto himself is extremely fast, he caught a bijuu off guard from kilometers in the sky.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle you do know the different effects of each characters bakai right, then there are the different kidos that could make a person pass out, bind, and create force fields. beside that bleach characters have been known to take a lot of damage like kenpachi who is so strong he hasn't even revealed his release form or bankai
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 I do know them but they won't really change the outcome much. Kenpachi via powerscaling wont change much also, and he'll be dead before he could use it.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle How will some of the death gods most powerful attack not change the outcome much? Yeah Naruto characters are powerful but they are not invincible.
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 the only bleach attack that can possibly damage him is the hell cero but its non-canon 100%
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle So none of the attacks aizen did throughout the whole series won't do anything? Byakuya, Tousen, Yamamoto, Ulquiorra, and Ichigo at his strongest can't do anything.
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 After a long while they could but you have to remember naruto isn't a goddamn statue, he could vaporize them all with a single attack.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle Well yeah he isn't a statue anyone knows that and we know he is fast, but you act like bleach characters can't dodge or block anything. They are not just gonna stand there and take it. I know this is off topic but maybe if it was someone powerful like goku that could take them out in one attack then yeah but its not.
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 The AOE of a fodder Bijuu's MB is about 6 km( pretty much undodgeable even if you know everything about the attack) Naruto's Bijuu bomb is powerful enough to overpower FIVE of those, by scaling it should have ATLEAST a 10km AOE undodgeable by ANY bleach character. Also none of them have mountain level durability so blocking is pretty much out of the question. And not "mountain" as in the one ichigo broke, mountain as in MOUNTAIN.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle check out Ichigo vs Aizen then tell me that again, they caused so much destruction just by swinging their swords, aizen had a attack that look like a nuclear bomb went off plus Ichigo's attack mugetsu which means fuck everything in this direction
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 they have cityblock+ casual slash destruction, it is nice but still not enough. And Fragor doesn't really look like a nuke it looks more like a giant beam. Its a town level attack, not enough to destroy mountains where kyuubi's durability is. And mugetsu? featless, probably somewhere around city level but that's just pure assumption.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle So if Ichigo were to use that attack on a mountain he wouldn't cut right through it?
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 It would probably cut through it but that's different from mountain level destruction. Mountain level destruction means turning the WHOLE mountain to dust, vaporizing it ect. Cutting it would only destroy a very small amount. About a ruffles chip(the amount of rock sliced compared to a potato(whole mountain).
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle So then can't Ichigo cut right through naruto's attack
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 it would cause it to explode thus killing ichigo and all his nearby friends.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle has that ever happened before
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 no but he's not even going to try that, he's going to try and dodge it.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle maybe but Ichigo does have a lot of balls so he might give it a try
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 Eh maybe but most likely that would result in him getting died.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle or he slices through it and moves forward to attack
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 It detonates or when ichigo's attacking naruto kills him with a punch.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle yeah I'm starting to think you are crazy. Naruto is strong but not that strong
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 He sort of is THAT strong. A sage mode naruto effortlessly tossed a 200,000 ton+ rhino into the sky(calculations for it being 90m in height, not length) that is around 12 million ton arm strength. RM(stronger than SM mode naruto )could hardly lift a small MB. Current naruto can hit 5 that are 50x larger like baseballs for distances of 10km+.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle and you must think bleach characters are that weak if you think they would be killed in one hit. did you did the math yourself or was it used in the manga
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 debating websites and my own scaling did that.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 No they're not weak, they simply are not surviving a mountain busters.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle with the damage Ichigo and aizen were making during their fight and how it wasn't even affecting them at all I'm pretty sure they will make it out alive, they are gonna be pretty banged up but alive unless Ichigo transforms to getsuga then he would have a better chance
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 not exactly, none of the attacks in that fight even approached mountain level, closest was fragor but its got a LONG way to go.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle dude they were just swinging their swords and causing so much destruction, just swinging their swords now just what would happen if they actually hit it? plus the crater aizen make that ichigo was standing over was one of the biggest craters I have ever seen and ichigo took it like almost nothing.
TheLastDragon972 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 As i was saying earlier they have casual Cityblock+(new york for example would have a few 1000) destruction. Hachibi whirlwhind however was city sized destruction just by spinning. and kyuubi is far stronger than hachibi. Also, the crater aizen made was fairly small actually, its explosion was town level.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 Ichigo had a damaged arm from a town level attack mountain level is higher than town level by about 40 times.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@TheLastDragon972 Can you give me the chapter btw i do not remember which one lol
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
BLEACH IS SO AWESOME!!! XD
habba100 1 month ago
Bleach wins by default, Naruto chars cannot see souls. Sorry Naruto fanboys
WaveyJdoTnorthweezie 1 month ago
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie Naruto senses his emotions. Without bullshit he just fucks him up.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle naruto chars sense chakra and bleach chars do not have chakra
WaveyJdoTnorthweezie 1 month ago
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie Wrong and wrong. Naruto the character senses emotions and can pinpoint their position. Secondly, chakra is spiritual pressure.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle naruto and bleach is diffren thus chakra and resitsu is diffrent you cant say a cat is a dog can you?
TheZKProductions 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle idiot, bleach chars do not have chakra networks, chakra and spiritual pressure are different and naruto cannot sense emotions and would only know where ichigo or any othere shinigami is by them slashing him from a certain position
WaveyJdoTnorthweezie 1 month ago
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie Chakra networks are irrelevant. Reatsu and chakra are both spiratual pressure so we will accept them as the same thing. And the only character that can even sense chakra is karin, naruto sensed kisame's emotions and used them to pinpoint his location then hammered him. So even if we go for your bullshit naruto, just soloes them.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle you really are stupid they are not the same thing, at what point in bleach have you seen any sign of reiatsu being the same as chakra networks and Naruto soloing bleachverse are you insane, he cannot see shinigami and he cannot simply pinpoint there location they are SOULS, DEATH GODS and even if he could sense them he would get speed blitz within a few seconds, mayuris bankai has the power to poison which naruto has no counter against, tosens bankai cuts of
WaveyJdoTnorthweezie 1 month ago
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie They are both spiratual pressure and if you're going to continue your unreasonable bullshit fine think what you like. Anyways, he senses EMOTIONS you fool, when Bleach characters are robots let me know. And he's getting blitzed? hell fucking no, he caught a bijuu off guard from kilometres away, the only person faster would be dangai ichigo(he actually helps my first argument from the fact he could see aizen without his reatsu)
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle all senses and leaves you helpless to attack, yumichika full shikai release has the power to suck out your spiritual energy, ulquiorra second release has one of the strongest ceros among the espada and instant regeneration, senbonzakura kageyoshi billion blades is extremely hard to dodge and narutos stupidity would cause his defeat by it in mere minutes. must i go on? your argument is weak naruto cannot solo bleachverse, he loses 1 on 1 to mayuri.
WaveyJdoTnorthweezie 1 month ago
@WaveyJdoTnorthweezie and NONE of these examples you brought up even come close to matching naruto's mountain level durability. The worst thing that could happen to naruto is that he loses his senses, he just fires a blind MB and the whole battlefield goes to hell.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle there no point in that ichigo already took over hell its under his controll :/
TheZKProductions 1 month ago
@TheZKProductions And according to the author of bleach "hell" doesn't exist.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle thats hear say.
TheZKProductions 1 month ago
@TheZKProductions What?
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle well its like in cort if you hear them saying somthing its not actualy evedence and wont count.
TheZKProductions 1 month ago
@TheZKProductions hell isn't evidence. Its sort of like a bonus with the real canon,
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle well it can be evedence but its non canon that means it has happened but dosent go to the real story line.
TheZKProductions 1 month ago
@TheZKProductions Well like itself as a production exists it just doesn't apply and cannot be used with ichigo.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle well he did use it in the anime movie even if its non canan its still evedince he did it. but even with out it ichigo can beat naruto as naruto hasent barryer.
TheZKProductions 1 month ago
@TheZKProductions yes he did it in the movie so IF MOVIE ichigo is used he will have that power. STANDARD will not.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle well would you like to tell me when in the movie did naruto pass the sound barryer as in seeing and hearing the sonic boom
TheZKProductions 1 month ago
@TheZKProductions Lee made sonic booms powerscale from that naruto supersonic+ but those are low end, use something like pain dodging FRS(crossed 2km in less than a secound 2000 m/s or around 5.5x supersonic) then you get a hypersonic+ current naruto.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle thats still not a sonic boom. Rock lee just bonced from place to place even a simple flash step is faster than that. pain doged? not doged but the attcks wernt even aiming it was just rapid fire. Even yorichi could take doen 100men in less than a second and thats not even Shunkō :/ ichigo can cut 10k pettals within a second :/
TheZKProductions 1 month ago
@TheZKProductions Those were sonic booms, bouncing from "walls to wall" would not produce shockwaves UNLESS you are bouncing at a supersonic speed. And this is not necessary seeing as we have pain's speed to scale from.
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@TheZKProductions And even if you don't like that one, we have gai moving fast enough in morning peacock to vaporize basically a tsunami of water. That is mach8+
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago
@stanleythedoogle well nothing was heared like a snonic boom (make that a theory then). Gia is pure tijustu (cant spell that sorry :P) so his max speed to reach is terminal velocity as he dosent have any real super power and terminal velocity is not mach 8 -.-
TheZKProductions 1 month ago
@TheZKProductions Terminal velocity will not make fire hot enough to vaporize a tidal wave -_-
stanleythedoogle 1 month ago