I have seen several other videos of Civil War Cannons firing on what looks like an APC. What I would like to know is how well the APC stood up to the hits by the 10, 12, 20 and 30 pdr rifled guns. This is something that the Alternate History Fiction Writers fail to mention. Does anyone know how well modern Armored Vehicles would fare?
On a tank, I would agree with you, but most APCs are armored with less than 20mm of any kind of armor and the earliests rifled guns like the Parrott had as much energy as early WWII anti tank guns. So I was curious about how the APC did since its armor was only designed to defeat small arms and shell fragments.
@JagdtygerII Depending on the type of armor used against and the projectile used - some -might- penetrate, some might not. It's more of a mix-and-match scenario.
@JagdtygerII Back then they just had shell, shrapnel, or what was used against stone forts or something that had to be knocked down they would use a bolt, the same thing as solid shot but for a rifled gun which could penetrate more with its high velocity for the time period. The bolt might be able to penetrate something with light armor like an APC but if it had sloping armor it would just bounce off.
Surprisingly, both sides had wrought iron bolts that used a pretty modern AP nose point, but lacked the ogive streamlining point cover. The Confederate Bolts were made for their larger guns and tested against their own sloped armor for penetrations and could easily defeat 6" of Wrought Iron/structural steel in most of their rifles over 30#. It is obvious that they would be too weak to harm a MBT, but I am not too sure about hard steel vs a Bradley, especially the up armored versions.
What kind of ammunition are you using and how do you get it to take the rifling. what about chamber pressures. Parrots were prone to bursting. Is this a newly manufactured Parrot?
I was the guy pulling the lanyard in the video - the ammunition we were firing was 30 - Pound Parrot shells with impact fuses. The cannon is an original Civil War Gun, and it has been inspected to make sure there are no noticeable weaknesses in the barrel. The round has a copper band at the base, and when the gun is fired that band expands into the rifiling. Hope this helps.
@championhilz- Are these shells authentic steel, or zinc ? I know the paulsons like to cast zinc projectiles due to a much more cost effective and easier casting process. Thanks, DM
I have seen several other videos of Civil War Cannons firing on what looks like an APC. What I would like to know is how well the APC stood up to the hits by the 10, 12, 20 and 30 pdr rifled guns. This is something that the Alternate History Fiction Writers fail to mention. Does anyone know how well modern Armored Vehicles would fare?
JagdtygerII 10 months ago
@JagdtygerII Hitting modern armor with cast-iron ordnance from 1861 won't really do anything, unless they use shaped charges :-)
purpleravenstar 9 months ago
@purpleravenstar
On a tank, I would agree with you, but most APCs are armored with less than 20mm of any kind of armor and the earliests rifled guns like the Parrott had as much energy as early WWII anti tank guns. So I was curious about how the APC did since its armor was only designed to defeat small arms and shell fragments.
JagdtygerII 9 months ago
@JagdtygerII Depending on the type of armor used against and the projectile used - some -might- penetrate, some might not. It's more of a mix-and-match scenario.
purpleravenstar 9 months ago
@purpleravenstar
Sounds like a good excuse for a weekend of shooting LOL.
But damned if I know anyone who would let a bunch of Black Powder Cannon buffs shoot up their APC or Tank :)
JagdtygerII 9 months ago
@JagdtygerII Back then they just had shell, shrapnel, or what was used against stone forts or something that had to be knocked down they would use a bolt, the same thing as solid shot but for a rifled gun which could penetrate more with its high velocity for the time period. The bolt might be able to penetrate something with light armor like an APC but if it had sloping armor it would just bounce off.
AUG351 3 months ago
@AUG351
Surprisingly, both sides had wrought iron bolts that used a pretty modern AP nose point, but lacked the ogive streamlining point cover. The Confederate Bolts were made for their larger guns and tested against their own sloped armor for penetrations and could easily defeat 6" of Wrought Iron/structural steel in most of their rifles over 30#. It is obvious that they would be too weak to harm a MBT, but I am not too sure about hard steel vs a Bradley, especially the up armored versions.
JagdtygerII 3 months ago
It's fun seeing these old guns in action
creamofcardstv 1 year ago
you cant see the cannon ball, you guys a fucking triping
andywarecommando 1 year ago
You guys shoot some cool stuff! Very nice, I wish your videos were longer.
KeiPyn24 1 year ago
wooo. You can see the Cannon Shell
Detoyato 1 year ago
you can see the cannonball in the lower left corner
Browning252 2 years ago
How can I make contact with these gunners? I'm currently make an episode on artillery and mortars for a new series. Please advise, HG
tripolibaby62 2 years ago
you can hear the cannonball.
mightycowhero 3 years ago
What kind of ammunition are you using and how do you get it to take the rifling. what about chamber pressures. Parrots were prone to bursting. Is this a newly manufactured Parrot?
PublicDisgrace2 3 years ago
there it was solid shot
hooah002 2 years ago
I was the guy pulling the lanyard in the video - the ammunition we were firing was 30 - Pound Parrot shells with impact fuses. The cannon is an original Civil War Gun, and it has been inspected to make sure there are no noticeable weaknesses in the barrel. The round has a copper band at the base, and when the gun is fired that band expands into the rifiling. Hope this helps.
championhilz 2 years ago
@championhilz- Are these shells authentic steel, or zinc ? I know the paulsons like to cast zinc projectiles due to a much more cost effective and easier casting process. Thanks, DM
twostrokeornill1 1 year ago
I'm no expert, but isn't that a 100 pdr and not a 30? Very cool whatever it is.
PowderMonki 3 years ago
No, it was a 30-Pounder - I was the guy pulling the lanyard in the video.
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