I believe that you are the veeery first one (out of 100s of comments), who is NOT taking any pro or contra position. Kinda like that open minded spirit!
then it has to be that it provokes people to hunger more for the truth and answers of these matters. To get their facts from as many scientific sources as possible an not just from some overly passionate figurehead.
What Durian Rider doesnt realize is that when you become so involved in any lifestyle, it becomes your identity. I believe he has good intentions but if you look at human nature, youll see that the human animal will protect his ideologies and his predetermined patterns of behavior with attacks..be it verbal or physical. Humans have been doing this for IONS in the name of religion. I can say that if there is anything positive about his "style" or approach to these subjects, which are scientific,
Durianrider is sad. I'm feel sorry for him. You can tell an unhappy person, from the amount of rhetoric they spout. "Everyone dies, but, not everyone lives". Puh-lease. Spare me. Sorry.
Animals die of natural causes in a much more cruel manner than when they are hunted and killed with a gun.
My way allows it to feed me with positive effect on the environment since animals are destructive to environment (vegan claim). Your way allows the animal to continue to be environmentally destructive and then rot on the forest floor or be mauled by predators.
He is so agreesive toward the helath movement leaders because they are all on the same side. Creat division helgelian dialectic. This goofy emaciated person wants you to believe imported bananas ( that are definately irradiated) are good for you? What a joke. He wants you to believe "organic" fruits and veggies fed run off water and poison are good for you. He wants you to think that is where you get your water from. UNPREPARING THE PEOPLE!
Why on Earth are people so willing to be divided on the issue? Am i missing something here? The comments taking sides simply fuels this ridiculous fire. Human beings are super adaptable to their surroundings and have the ability to thrive eating a wide variety of things. Why can't both be right and both be wrong at the same time? We all can't eat the same diet any more than assuming we all have the same personalities. I find myself agreeing and disagreeing with things they both say?
i thought harley was a bit of a dick at first but after watching this i've changed my mind. Also i think daniel vitalis, david wolfe or any alike are not bad people just because the way they promote health makes alot of money. It's not like any of these guys are putting a gun to anybody's head and forcing them to do what they say. The only way to find out what works for you is to try it yourself but try it properly.
@NovemberFrog "Vegan folk" are people and cannot be so stereotyped and put into boxes. there are aggressive vegans and aggressive meat eaters alike. I personally believe meat eaters are much more aggressive than vegans though. If I wasnt so amazing, I would probably be a vegan on the defencive (i think your confusing aggression with caution) because of the 100's of times I have been verbally abused (even by my family and friends) by not wanting to put a dead animal in my mouth.
@1outlawz 'Hi, thanks for your comment. I had paleo friends and vegan/veggie friends some time back when I was studying natural medicine and nutrition. I noticed how The vegans sometimes seemed a little more stressed and short fused compared to the paleo nutters.. -not based on any fact, only my observation. Personally I eat dead plant and dead animal... omnivore style and honestly dont really care what everybody els eats.
@1outlawz I do find it amusing and a little silly how fanatical and intense some raw foodists are, on both sides of the fence, to the degree where heated arguments and name calling ensues. I guess that's just human nature.
I'm sorry people are giving you a hard time about your diet choices, that's just crazy.
whats wrong with eating meat? aslong as they are killed in a humane way i dont see nothing wrong with it. Animals kill other animals in the wild shoud be stop them from killing. aslong as ur doing it in away the is not factory farm way i think alright. please share me your thoughts if you have any...cheers
@VeganAssassin Just do your research. Learn about plant domestication, GMO, nutrition of the past. No civilization was ever vegan. All the food you eat is gmo version of a unedible plant, that has only existed for a few hundred years. It is a cleansing diet and detox diet, once your clean you need to build. I bet you have not been vgean for long, and hopefully you dont join the cult/dogma and recognize that when you are depleted.
@HappierHealthierYou Okay - i'm done doing my research! Thank you! Vegan for over 15 years and vegetarian for 26... I'm strong, muscular, healthy, full of life, and full of love! Life is amazin', I'm thriving and I respect other beings (not just humans) enough to allow them to live theirs... I suspect you feel the same why, which is why you are trying to argue your points to justify your position as a part time vegan... anyway, i love you just the same - just know that i am a living example :)
@VeganAssassin Done doing research... you can live ten lifetimes and not learn half the the stuff. I seriosuly doubt you been vegan for 15 years when your cooking with canola oil.. And i disagree with killing animals. We did it for 2 million years as a species. But now that mickey mouse, and talking donkeys are in movies, and we leveled their enviornemenst to build polluting cities, now we feel as if it wrong?? However I do believe some people can live well on a vegan diet, a small precentage
@HappierHealthierYou -come on now buddy-i've been veg a LONG time..26 years, show some respect. If u won't believe that; then it is useless to discuss anything else. Yes, i have used canola oil -referring to video i made with my mom during the holidays? she is vegetarian too - just at her home, doesn't have the knowledge or money to buy the right stuff - she just knows she doesn't want to eat animal foods.Watch a cow being killed and bled, vs. apple - you tell me what feels right..disney or not
@VeganAssassin I respect that, sorry about that. I understand the poil issue, i been poor, although i rather go without than conola. Yea but the thing about a cow beign killed and a apple is apples do not exist in nature. They been GE from a tart berry. Is it less "brutal" yea...more natural no way, Bison have been around for ever. Im saying that it werid to have this many eelings for animals only when we tore dow nand polluted their enviorment and killed them off...
@VeganAssassin But back in the day when we lived amongst them and never had extinction of species, we killed them for food when we were hungery and never felt "bad about it. Like a lion killing a gazelle. But i respect you, and your doing something right cuase 26 years is a long time. I also feel that not everyone can be vegan, not everyone is the same, also i feel like vegetarian is healthier for people and enviornment,.
@HappierHealthierYou hybrids and gmo two different things guys funny reading this shit lots of plants are hybrids look at tomatoes carrots apple those are just a few examples.
GMO seeds have genetically altered DNA. hybrid is the result of cross pollinating plants to improve characteristics. soy wheat and corn one of the top GMO seeds out there not good look at the studies done on gmo foods not pretty have we ever came across these issues in populations where the majority eat fruit???
@biobioh Here is the thing, sure some NATURAL hybrids are fine. Like lets say for an example; if a rose and tulip natural cross pollinated a million years ago to make a carnation. Hey thats obviouly fine. But alot of fruit scientist cross pollinated the plants a couple hundred years ago. And the result yeild a STERILE plant. Thats the big issue, its sterile meaning mother nature does not like it alot. Also the sugar content is crazy high.
@biobioh Meaning if a plant like that sugary existed in nature, it would be destroyed by bugs, bacteria, mold, animals, and insects efore a human could touch it. Additionally it is genetically weak (hence sterile) so actually bananas are facing extinction due to a fungi that is attacking it, unless it get GM. So personally im hesitant to make that a staple in my diet when its sterile, does/cant exist in nature, couple hundred years old, facing extinction ect.
@biobioh But i am fine with fruit do not get me wrong, i eat a whole lot of it compared to most people. But really whats hurts frutarians message is when they say "its the natural diet." I mean for the reasons i pointed out, that just sounds absurd to people who have the knowledge of plants. Again nothing against fruit, just really the whole sterile part, shows me if it was a healthy food for humans, no way mother nature would make it sterile. Think seedless fruits ;(
Durianrider seems like a cool guy, I like his energy, but his mocking attitude doesn't make sense to me. Just because he obviously wants the world to know the truth about Vitalis and Wolfe (whatever it might be?) he has no right being that orally offensive. And defending his actions by hiding behind "passion" just doesn't do it for me.
I don't find Harley aggressive. He's definitely passionate and sarcastic but I don't have a problem with that. I've watched many videos of different raw food 'gurus' and I just take the information that works for me. What I notice in the comments sections is how many people choose to take sides which only serves to push the whole 'war' amongst this community. I appreciate all of these guys taking to time to make videos, sharing their knowledge, even if I don't subscribe to all of the info.
Durianrider should work on his ego and not coach people become as judgemental and aggressive as he is.....such a shame, becouse i totally believe in 811 diet...people are more likely to be turned off by such a lifestyle after watching his videos...
Lawsuits are an avenue to resolve issues between 2 people. Are Victorius & David Wolfe advertising the lawsuits to the public? You just did that so you took it out of the arena of between two people & took it to the airwaves. You are bashing them by bringing this all to the public.You, Durianrider are passionate, but scary. Quite calling people a wussbag. You are scary & need to seek out ways to communicate without name calling. You are destroying your efforts.
We can be passionate without attacking people. Period. There is no love in attacking people. No matter what side of the issue you are on, people have more value than animals because we are the caretakers. We are destroying our passion and our efforts by attacking someone else. You can disagree without attacking another person.
Aggression from vegan is love? what the hell? aggression is aggression plain and simple, and it does not matter if comes from vegan, raw vegan, vegetarian, a meat eater........ and that man is highly aggressive, even if i too believe in 80 10 10 diet and veganism... it is about love, not who`s got a bigger mouth.
Freelea has breast implants that are fairly large. I am not going to comment on the diet, but if you are using her body image as an example for a model for your results use caution.
simply put-> Harley (durianrider) is a narcissist! If you know anything about psychology you will see these traits in him. He throws a lot of stones, & I wonder how he'd respond to it if the pressure was aimed at him. He needs to stop FORCING his life choices on others. If he wants to be heard, respected & followed, then he needs to stop MAKING FUN of people as if he were an 8 yr. old child, acting like a fool! He needs to grow up! I find it very hard to take this mans behavior seriously.
@1madaboutguitar Hi, I just wanted to let you know I checked out your channel & I agree with your about me description 100%. I think it would be great if you would start doing some vids about that topic. I subscribed to you. Hopefully I will hear more about your thought sometime soon...?
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Durianrider talks about eating mostly fruit,i don't do well on mostly fruit! Durianrider loves to attack in a nasty way people like David Wolfe,D.W. has helped alot of people including me,i have never seen D.W. be nasty to anyone! We all don't ride 50 miles a day on our bikes like Durianrider ,so for Durianrider a high fruit diet works but for some it doesn't...Durianrider is young & lacks wisdom,Lets see how Durianrider looks when hes 40 !
@armyyyg Dude..He's Euro if you have never been to Europe..you probably wouldn't understand. He speaks probably 2 languages..do you? As for Durian Rider...I respect his passion...but he is sort of a fundamentalist (my opinion) but he sure is ready to demonize people who partake in meat. Daniel Vitalis isn't that bad. At least he is advocating more wild, feral diets.
Just saying something doesn't make it true, Harley.
"We're loving"? "Veganism is about peace"?
Where is your love when you are attacking someone who is trying to convey intelligent messages of anti-domestication, wild foods, etc? I don't agree with Daniel's meat-eating or colostrum either but if you respect his other messages, which you should, then you should show him some respect as a person and fellow consciousness-spreader, which you have not.
"Aggression from a vegan is love"? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? So you're giving yourself and all vegans license to be as cruel and rude as they want because it comes from a place of peace and love? WHAT A JOKE. You people really follow this guy?! LOL
lol, funny how you would assume i'm a meat eater. I'm not. Just because I have a problem with the sarcastic, childish manner in which DR delivers his message, and prefer Daniel's intelligent, peaceful approach to knowledge and nutrition, doesn't make me a "sheeple".
@jessomglol that is exactly what you are. and how do you consider DV to be "peaceful" and "inteligent"? last time I checked it´s not peaceful to shoot animals and it isnt inteligent to rip people off and make money of off their sheeple-thinking and stupidity. too bad you have a problem with Harley, he could change your life if you just listened to him. Daniel has absolutely nothing to offer to anyone who wants to be healthy.
@thatfruitarianchick ...that last statement is simply not true. Even if you don't agree with Daniel's meat eating, you will find he is a big proponent of raw foods and I think you agree with that.
@jessomglol if you would get off all the crap i bet you are eating, maybe your brain function would be better and you would have better judgement. go fruit yourself and then come back, wont you.
Aggression is not passion; it is not even a synonym! Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, Jesus Christ- how many swear words punctuated their messages!
Durian Rider just has low bullshit tolerance. I have been interested in Raw food, for about 4 years, and it took me about 3 min to figure out that David Wolfe, Daniel Vitalis, and a bunch of other "Guru's" were full of shit, and in it to make money. So I respect Durian Rider, and aggree with him totally. He has to be loud, and politically incorrect, because it wakes people up and makes them think!!! And guess what? The truth is not pretty, it's loud and said with passion!!
@chrisdoytchinova unfortunately this approach does not make people think, it just turns them off. If you want people to listen to your message, meet them where they are, don't tell them (with colorful metaphors) that they are wrong in being where they are. They are there. Be gentle and they will listen. Otherwise, you just get shut out and then you have created an adversary.
I'm all for speaking your truth. All for it, 100%. I respect people who tell it like it is. But Harley doesn't just tell it like it is -- he attacks people. There's absolutely no need to attack someone personally to get your point across. You can speak your truth just fine without launching a personal attack. He should be embarrassed of himself, but since he basically has no filter, he doesn't feel normal emotions. It's almost like he's got a disability.
I also think that DurianRider is a confused person. He somehow thinks "violent love" that shoves concepts, thoughts and ideas into a person's face to force them to deal with things is "tough love." Not everyone knows what "love" is. Isn't it more loving to have compassion and care for how that other person feels? He clearly shows none of this and communicates that "if you can't handle it then that's your problem" kind of attitude. Just because it burns in your heart doesn't make it right.
Daniel Vitalis has a responsibility! If he wants to sell people expensive products, give seminars and call himself a health guru, then he should be called out when he spreads misinformation. He preaches non aggression while he sues durianrider. Therefor he is a hypocrit,untill the day where he can defend what he does and says.
man i should be on your side since i'm a vegetarian and i support and admire vegans, but i don't like the way you argue, i prefere rational discussions or.. on the opposite riots! so this half way peaceful/aggressive thing is not clever to me.
...and to add insult to injury DR is a total comedy vacuum - his piss takes aren't even funny. I might be more inclined to get on board with his loonacy if he had but an iota of wit about him.
@veganchica81 get a grip love - there are levels of badness in the world...my point is that he hasn't got the balls to get in the face of people who are literally murdering and poising each other. I'm not saying Im a fan of the guy he's having a go at, what I am saying is that there are more pertinent issues than this. DR is a bully who picks his mark, Like I said if he cares so much about humanity then lets see him challenge some real life arse-holes in instead of vegan pacifists
... D/r of you're so bothered about what people put in their bodies and the repercussions on the planet why not come and pay a visit to Brixton or moss side and get "passionate" with some of the local smack and crack dealers ... Oh sorry I forgot you're more into starting on passive vegans who eat meat from time to time lol the do way more harm than dealers anyway
Honestly, lets puts diets aside, do people actually think this guy looks good? We, at least I am, looking for optimum health and not one thing about this guy seems prototypical or optimal. He certainly is no adonis when it comes to looks so for those who follow his lifestyle or look up to him, can you please explain to me why? Don't take this personally, just explain
DV talks about being mean and hateful. What he sells people is just that! What he does to animals is just that! I agree with pinetree, he needs to not be included in the raw food/vegan events. He is neither. He is a meat eating hippy. Just bc you are a hippy, doesn't make you good. I'll take Harley, the crude truth speaking Vegan anyday!
So I hear what Harley is saying. He says that he can do anything but it's never violence because he's a vegan. Vegans are not capable of violence....apparently. And if you object to his personal attacks you just need to man up and quit being a "wuss-bag". You are so fascinating, Harley. Please tell us more and more about yourself. We could listen to you forever.
This is beautiful. Folks, remember the saying, "when your adversary is hanging himself, don't stop him." Just keep talking durianrider. Please keep talking.
I have posted on durianrider's youtube videos and he banned me. He doesn't want "debate" and he can't handle honest disagreement. He appears to be narcissistic and fearful. I honestly think there is something to the theory that his diet is damaging his nervous system.
@bagginshates He bans anyone on both youtube and 30BAD who questions his lifestyle, asks for help or points out flaws in his philosophy.
My last entertaining visit to 30BAD involved seeing a post in which he advised a member to take themselves off the medication they are taking to control schizoophrenic symptoms. Yes, his nervous system is damaged and judgment and integrity are WAY off.
@Lakkhesis1976 I have been band on his youtube channel because I pointed out some flaws in his arguments.
So weak.
If you really got a good story to tell. You wouldn't do that. Especilally when you "give tough love" like he does. I think you should be abel to take it yourself to. I didn't even do that. He's keeping his followers stupid.
"grow up and stop being a wuss-bag." ...SERIOUSLY?!?! did those two things really just come out of your mouth in the same breath? it's not childish to be offended by malicious and unwarranted criticism, it's childish to resort to such mud slinging in the first place. violence doesn't inherently mean PHYSICAL violence. this dude's whole attitude is negative and then he tries to say vegans promote love. HA! and who cares what's tattooed on your hand, your actions speak louder.
I agree. What's also funny is that vegans believe that eating meat makes you agressive, yet I see more of the opposite esp. expressed in harley as a vegan, constantly attacking people who have just a different belief set as he does, being agressive, overtly critical, name calling etc whereas Daniel who eats meat, radiates much more peace and compassion and doesn't need to PREACH constantly about it because he lives it, he's at peace with himself.
@seldomfollows Worst of all, he calls it 'passion'. And his foul attitude is contagious. I recently looked at his girlfriend Freelea's videos dating 2009 and now. The horrid change in her countenance and attitude is as palpable as her physical degeneration.
Harley needs to grow up a bit as a person before people will start to listen to him. Aggressive vegans are a turn off to most people. If he is talking about how veganism promotes love, he needs to show it. I saw one of his videos..about 30 sec. in I turned it off. Enough for me. God bless him. I hope he grows up someday.
I think where Durianrider is coming from that life is short. Our time is running out and he might feel the urgency to cut through the bullshit and if there is some collateral damage then so be it. All this debate and weighing different point of views from so called open mindedness are immensely energy draining. I am also tired of people who think they are so kind and not judgmental but are not. I call them wool sweater commies. Durianrider is at least honest about where he is coming from.
It would be better if DR took all that "passion" and protested corporate slaughterhouses, the military-industrial complex, and all massive business leviathans that are ruining life on Earth. Instead, he goes after a guy with a total of 686 subscribers on youtube? If you want to pick a fight, take your fight to the big-time.
The way you treat others, especially your brothers and sisters in the masses, is a direct reflection of how you feel about yourself. I don't want to feel like you feel.
Perhaps. Maybe you should take the passion you spend on youtube and use it better? It's not really our issue how someone chooses to spend his time. Also IMO it's tremendously important to attack these hucksters who talk bullshit about how they eat animals with compassion. While opposing brutal meat industry is becoming somewhat mainstream, there are more people who keep eating meat all they want and dare to claim they have compassion. Opposing such tendency is time well spent.
@auffenpuffer Most people would take it as a compliment when someone suggests that they take their act to the big time. No apologies coming from me. I'm guessing that a lot of homeboy's disposition results from him not making his move. He'll be happier when he becomes a dragon-slayer.
Harley's the only one in this community who's actually telling the truth. Personally his delivery feels like second nature to me, it's very Australian. I'm Irish & we have a very similar style of communicating, so the delivery of his message, to me, is purely down to him being an Aussie. As regards what he's saying, who else is going to tell us this stuff? Who else is going to break down the truth from the fiction within the raw world. The raw world is full of confusion so we need you Harley.
I made a video about Durianrider and Doug Graham. Check it out! :-) How come everyone thinks this Harley guy is so healthy? Come check out my channel and see what I have to share with everyone out there.
Durianrider you may not hit or punch people, but your mouth will leed to you getting hit or punched. Cause and Effect , now that's tuff love...It reminds me of road rage, your can talk crap in your car, but when your on the street your actions are differnent...
Vitalis hasn't done any research into water. So he's read about Schauberger, so what? So have I but I would never imply (the way DV does) that I'm more than a pimple on Schauberger's toe. Internet 'research' is not science.
DV claimed (SELLING his water) that ALL natural springs flow with water that's been underground for 10,000+ years. He's very misguided in that reading. Why so many springs flow in proportion to recent rainfall? Synchronicity with rainfall 10,000+ years ago?
@NOhopeNOchangeNObama i love harley's passion. i have a lot of passion myself and make a lot of debate videos. this difference is my voice is one of compassion (and i also keep it legal). i think we shouild all speak our truth but it can be done positively. so we can agree to disagree here.
Oh, man. This is cracking me up. 'Sometimes you really hit on people hard. Does it have to be so hard? Why do you do that so hard?'
I totally don't get why people jump all over Harley for this. I'm personally someone who is 100% turned off by meanness. I've never sensed an iota of meanness from Harley. Even if I strongly disagreed with Harley, I see nothing in his style of communication that is mean or overly 'aggressive'.
I think he is just mean though, theres no reason to get up on youtube and call someone a fat bitch tit having tub of lard, which is exactly what he does. I also find the term bitch tit very distasteful from a female perspective. I am a woman, not a bitch. and to say a man has bitch tits is to say he has a female attribute.
I have watched a lot of Harley's videos and I don't find him aggressive at all. Challenging people who are spreading false advice about health and diet is an act of love towards the people being led astray by these leaders.
Harley - your life purpose of wanting to help people help themselves get fit and healthy and help the planet and help the animals at the same time, is a SHIT life purpose, really it is. By yourself, you should be breaking up all child prostitution rings, capturing murderers, tackling crime, feeding all the starving children and DEFINITELY NOT pointing out raw food people's flawed logic or when people are trying to rip people off in the raw food scene. You aggressive piece of shit
@lukemur13 Eating meat is directly related with crazed abnormal sexual behaviour. Thats why there has never been a vegan that has been a convicted rapist. Look it up.
Hey, if you want to be in NYPD go for it. Thats not my life purpose. If you spent more time focusing on your life purpose instead of ridiculing other people's purpose then you would know what your purpose is lol!
So my question to you is 'WHAT IS YOUR LIFE PURPOSE AND ARE YOU LIVING IT DAILY?' :)
@durianriders - lol mate, i was being sarcastic, thought that it was clear haha - don't you recognise my name from positive thankful comments on most of your videos from the last 6 months!? i was having a go at some clowns that were saying you should be breaking up child prostitution rings instead of your chosen life purpose. You and Gary Yourofsky have inspired me more than anyone else on earth :) - my life purpose is to create awareness - that's why i share your videos with many people ;)
@durianriders LOL!!!! And what are the rape 'statistics' for animal product consumers who eat only ethically farmed, organic, free-ranged, grassfed produce? Should I look that up too?
Good video but Mosquitos bring the violence first by stabbing us and drinking our blood. If Harley is getting bit by a mosquito does he wait for it to finish or pet it and tell it to please stop this violence!
YES! BURN LIKE THE SUN! YELL FROM THE ROOFTOPS! NEVER STOP BENG YOU DURIANRIDER!! YOU ARE HELPING SO MANY! PEACE & LOVE TO YOU AND KA! LOVE YOU GUYS!
I would take Durian's kind of tough love anyday! Everything he advocates is backed by the China study, Dr. Graham's 80-10-10 book! I definetly agree that it takes more love to tell the people you care about what they don't want to hear, then to be a yes man.
I got from the interviews that the DR is a bully and don't care if hi hurts people, but he makes good points about being raw vegan, and DV is a gentleman vegan or not right or not .
At least he's honest. :) I would rather he were this way than always walking around with a clown mask on. Most people are clowns always pretending to be happy and perfect and saying what everyone WANTS them to say. I love his honesty personally and don't really see a problem with his approach. I don't believe that he has ill intentions or he wouldn't be trying to help people. That's just me.
This guy "DR" is a complete FARCE...it just goes to show you veganism is more violence than any other lifestyle. By the looks of it, he has depleted himself of vital nutrients and is probably the reason for his childish behaviour. For god sake, please somebody slap some sense into this buffoon. You cant just attack peoples businesses and say you are propagating the message that way. I bet he had some awful upbringing...I feel sorry for anyone that follows this arrogant child-like man!!!
Harley doesnt seem........ to realize that he helps others get hurt emotionally with his whole way of communication. he helps...... it love if he was more sensitive to how others are, and just deliver same message but without mockery or fun making, like the way he does David Wolfe and Daniel. peace n love n respect n sensitivity from the heart :)
Daniel's interview was much better and up until this point i have been a Durian follower but now i see Daniel has very valid points opposed to durian who just repeats the same ol tired information which isnt much to be honest. i have yet to learn one thing from durian besides his hate for others and reasons why he is better than leading health educators and advocates. Daniel also seems to be more consciously evolved and intelligent rediscovering and bringing cutting edge information to u and i.
I tell you what, if Harley didnt act as a mirror and did it in such a passionate way nobody would listen to him. I may or may not agree with everything he says but he says it and I have to watch. Vitalis is a smarmy used car salesman. How can people not see that? You wont get anywhere with one of Daniel's doubletalking "dialectics"
how can he talk about peace and compassion when he makes 20 minuite long videos calling wolfe and vitalis crooks? wolfe is doing a great job at getting people raw. Wolfe helped me get into raw, though now im more into the 80/10/10 way, I still have much to thanks wolfe for.. even though I dont care for his suppliments.
altho i totally agree with his message, i would venture most people are turned off by his approach. and i get it that he doesn't care. i know it is possible to be 1000% passionate without being verbally hurtful.
is there a contradiction that he says his goal is protecting the planet, yet he feels being a locavore is secondary to personal preference to tropical food as he referred to in his recent video.
I think Harley calls people on their BS. Yes,for me sometimes that gets a little extreme, but on the whole he's spot on.
Like he says many times, he likes trash talking with his mates and i guess some videos come from the same place.
TheUrbanDharma 3 days ago
Great discussion series. I feel all 3 of you present some great ideas!
thehealingperson 3 days ago
@thehealingperson Thanks so much for this comment!
I believe that you are the veeery first one (out of 100s of comments), who is NOT taking any pro or contra position. Kinda like that open minded spirit!
rawfoodfamilylife 3 days ago
then it has to be that it provokes people to hunger more for the truth and answers of these matters. To get their facts from as many scientific sources as possible an not just from some overly passionate figurehead.
carecree888 4 days ago
What Durian Rider doesnt realize is that when you become so involved in any lifestyle, it becomes your identity. I believe he has good intentions but if you look at human nature, youll see that the human animal will protect his ideologies and his predetermined patterns of behavior with attacks..be it verbal or physical. Humans have been doing this for IONS in the name of religion. I can say that if there is anything positive about his "style" or approach to these subjects, which are scientific,
carecree888 4 days ago
Well said. An insult from a vegan is love.
crcaccounts 6 days ago
Durianrider is sad. I'm feel sorry for him. You can tell an unhappy person, from the amount of rhetoric they spout. "Everyone dies, but, not everyone lives". Puh-lease. Spare me. Sorry.
fvalen001 1 week ago
WELL SAID, DURIANRIDER. GOD BLESS YOU!
alfredoitaliano 1 week ago
Animals die of natural causes in a much more cruel manner than when they are hunted and killed with a gun.
My way allows it to feed me with positive effect on the environment since animals are destructive to environment (vegan claim). Your way allows the animal to continue to be environmentally destructive and then rot on the forest floor or be mauled by predators.
flanksteak2 2 weeks ago
He is so agreesive toward the helath movement leaders because they are all on the same side. Creat division helgelian dialectic. This goofy emaciated person wants you to believe imported bananas ( that are definately irradiated) are good for you? What a joke. He wants you to believe "organic" fruits and veggies fed run off water and poison are good for you. He wants you to think that is where you get your water from. UNPREPARING THE PEOPLE!
ionizenation 3 weeks ago
every body poops, and if they don't they're an android, and should be destroyed...
SinnNorth 3 weeks ago
I like as he said "grow up and get balls if u can't handle some video jokes on youtube.
;-)
FadingIntimacy 3 weeks ago
Why on Earth are people so willing to be divided on the issue? Am i missing something here? The comments taking sides simply fuels this ridiculous fire. Human beings are super adaptable to their surroundings and have the ability to thrive eating a wide variety of things. Why can't both be right and both be wrong at the same time? We all can't eat the same diet any more than assuming we all have the same personalities. I find myself agreeing and disagreeing with things they both say?
amanicorganic 1 month ago 2
i like harley but he is an idiot for not informing himself more on cannabis and dmt.
more about cannabis because it is
# 1 plastics, car parts, building material, medicine, food, fuel, clothes
it cures 100% of diseases in people that still have their cannabinoid receptors ( some people go through chemotherapy which kills receptors )
and dmt (ayahuasca) frees yourself from your culture, identity it is worth taking it from time to time, maybe once a year.
nainamor 1 month ago
i thought harley was a bit of a dick at first but after watching this i've changed my mind. Also i think daniel vitalis, david wolfe or any alike are not bad people just because the way they promote health makes alot of money. It's not like any of these guys are putting a gun to anybody's head and forcing them to do what they say. The only way to find out what works for you is to try it yourself but try it properly.
ushilives3 1 month ago
great interview :)
jammatoonarmy 1 month ago
Harly knows that people are Creating problems, and selling cures for them!
Visualize630 1 month ago
No More Mr.Nice Vegan!
Visualize630 1 month ago
Harley is a Rare prophet. He's rightin the good fight.
TheFruitarian 1 month ago 2
Are vegan folk prone to being aggressive? I noticed this years ago but would like to know other peoples opinion.
NovemberFrog 1 month ago
@NovemberFrog "Vegan folk" are people and cannot be so stereotyped and put into boxes. there are aggressive vegans and aggressive meat eaters alike. I personally believe meat eaters are much more aggressive than vegans though. If I wasnt so amazing, I would probably be a vegan on the defencive (i think your confusing aggression with caution) because of the 100's of times I have been verbally abused (even by my family and friends) by not wanting to put a dead animal in my mouth.
1outlawz 1 month ago
@1outlawz 'Hi, thanks for your comment. I had paleo friends and vegan/veggie friends some time back when I was studying natural medicine and nutrition. I noticed how The vegans sometimes seemed a little more stressed and short fused compared to the paleo nutters.. -not based on any fact, only my observation. Personally I eat dead plant and dead animal... omnivore style and honestly dont really care what everybody els eats.
NovemberFrog 1 month ago
@1outlawz I do find it amusing and a little silly how fanatical and intense some raw foodists are, on both sides of the fence, to the degree where heated arguments and name calling ensues. I guess that's just human nature.
I'm sorry people are giving you a hard time about your diet choices, that's just crazy.
NovemberFrog 1 month ago
Have a bong and chill the fuck out .
wooftacant 1 month ago
Ayahuasca is NOT a drug....it is a SACRED MEDICINE....get that one right if nothing else.
ElectricE84 1 month ago
@ElectricE84 Anything consumed that alters perception and neurochemistry is a drug.
HybridD91 1 month ago
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whats wrong with eating meat? aslong as they are killed in a humane way i dont see nothing wrong with it. Animals kill other animals in the wild shoud be stop them from killing. aslong as ur doing it in away the is not factory farm way i think alright. please share me your thoughts if you have any...cheers
badboy95ca 1 month ago
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badboy95ca 1 month ago
Its not so much what goes in the mouth but what comes out ;)
perrysrawsoul 1 month ago
Veganism will die out very soon.
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
@HappierHealthierYou - Not on my watch! ;) Vegans sprouting up all over the place
VeganAssassin 1 month ago
@VeganAssassin Just do your research. Learn about plant domestication, GMO, nutrition of the past. No civilization was ever vegan. All the food you eat is gmo version of a unedible plant, that has only existed for a few hundred years. It is a cleansing diet and detox diet, once your clean you need to build. I bet you have not been vgean for long, and hopefully you dont join the cult/dogma and recognize that when you are depleted.
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
@HappierHealthierYou Okay - i'm done doing my research! Thank you! Vegan for over 15 years and vegetarian for 26... I'm strong, muscular, healthy, full of life, and full of love! Life is amazin', I'm thriving and I respect other beings (not just humans) enough to allow them to live theirs... I suspect you feel the same why, which is why you are trying to argue your points to justify your position as a part time vegan... anyway, i love you just the same - just know that i am a living example :)
VeganAssassin 1 month ago
@VeganAssassin Done doing research... you can live ten lifetimes and not learn half the the stuff. I seriosuly doubt you been vegan for 15 years when your cooking with canola oil.. And i disagree with killing animals. We did it for 2 million years as a species. But now that mickey mouse, and talking donkeys are in movies, and we leveled their enviornemenst to build polluting cities, now we feel as if it wrong?? However I do believe some people can live well on a vegan diet, a small precentage
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
@HappierHealthierYou -come on now buddy-i've been veg a LONG time..26 years, show some respect. If u won't believe that; then it is useless to discuss anything else. Yes, i have used canola oil -referring to video i made with my mom during the holidays? she is vegetarian too - just at her home, doesn't have the knowledge or money to buy the right stuff - she just knows she doesn't want to eat animal foods.Watch a cow being killed and bled, vs. apple - you tell me what feels right..disney or not
VeganAssassin 1 month ago
@VeganAssassin I respect that, sorry about that. I understand the poil issue, i been poor, although i rather go without than conola. Yea but the thing about a cow beign killed and a apple is apples do not exist in nature. They been GE from a tart berry. Is it less "brutal" yea...more natural no way, Bison have been around for ever. Im saying that it werid to have this many eelings for animals only when we tore dow nand polluted their enviorment and killed them off...
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
@VeganAssassin But back in the day when we lived amongst them and never had extinction of species, we killed them for food when we were hungery and never felt "bad about it. Like a lion killing a gazelle. But i respect you, and your doing something right cuase 26 years is a long time. I also feel that not everyone can be vegan, not everyone is the same, also i feel like vegetarian is healthier for people and enviornment,.
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
@HappierHealthierYou hybrids and gmo two different things guys funny reading this shit lots of plants are hybrids look at tomatoes carrots apple those are just a few examples.
GMO seeds have genetically altered DNA. hybrid is the result of cross pollinating plants to improve characteristics. soy wheat and corn one of the top GMO seeds out there not good look at the studies done on gmo foods not pretty have we ever came across these issues in populations where the majority eat fruit???
biobioh 1 month ago
@biobioh Here is the thing, sure some NATURAL hybrids are fine. Like lets say for an example; if a rose and tulip natural cross pollinated a million years ago to make a carnation. Hey thats obviouly fine. But alot of fruit scientist cross pollinated the plants a couple hundred years ago. And the result yeild a STERILE plant. Thats the big issue, its sterile meaning mother nature does not like it alot. Also the sugar content is crazy high.
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
@biobioh Meaning if a plant like that sugary existed in nature, it would be destroyed by bugs, bacteria, mold, animals, and insects efore a human could touch it. Additionally it is genetically weak (hence sterile) so actually bananas are facing extinction due to a fungi that is attacking it, unless it get GM. So personally im hesitant to make that a staple in my diet when its sterile, does/cant exist in nature, couple hundred years old, facing extinction ect.
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
@biobioh But i am fine with fruit do not get me wrong, i eat a whole lot of it compared to most people. But really whats hurts frutarians message is when they say "its the natural diet." I mean for the reasons i pointed out, that just sounds absurd to people who have the knowledge of plants. Again nothing against fruit, just really the whole sterile part, shows me if it was a healthy food for humans, no way mother nature would make it sterile. Think seedless fruits ;(
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
Durianrider seems like a cool guy, I like his energy, but his mocking attitude doesn't make sense to me. Just because he obviously wants the world to know the truth about Vitalis and Wolfe (whatever it might be?) he has no right being that orally offensive. And defending his actions by hiding behind "passion" just doesn't do it for me.
Baracheta 1 month ago
why is so difficult for Ka to understand Durian's vision?
coporofrito 1 month ago
I don't find Harley aggressive. He's definitely passionate and sarcastic but I don't have a problem with that. I've watched many videos of different raw food 'gurus' and I just take the information that works for me. What I notice in the comments sections is how many people choose to take sides which only serves to push the whole 'war' amongst this community. I appreciate all of these guys taking to time to make videos, sharing their knowledge, even if I don't subscribe to all of the info.
jodienicholsonAU 1 month ago
I'd like to thank harley for giving me awareness of daniel Vitalis. I am really enjoy learning about Daniels views.
MayanThunderbird 2 months ago
Vitalis spends a lot of energy getting information out. Others spend energy attacking out of jealousy. Jealousy is a powerful force.
chris93838 2 months ago
Durianrider should work on his ego and not coach people become as judgemental and aggressive as he is.....such a shame, becouse i totally believe in 811 diet...people are more likely to be turned off by such a lifestyle after watching his videos...
3escaton 2 months ago
Ka, you are a bold man. I appreciate you because you are a seeker of truth. Don't know if we agree on everything, but we don't have to. Thank you.
julietesterman 2 months ago
Lawsuits are an avenue to resolve issues between 2 people. Are Victorius & David Wolfe advertising the lawsuits to the public? You just did that so you took it out of the arena of between two people & took it to the airwaves. You are bashing them by bringing this all to the public.You, Durianrider are passionate, but scary. Quite calling people a wussbag. You are scary & need to seek out ways to communicate without name calling. You are destroying your efforts.
julietesterman 2 months ago
We can be passionate without attacking people. Period. There is no love in attacking people. No matter what side of the issue you are on, people have more value than animals because we are the caretakers. We are destroying our passion and our efforts by attacking someone else. You can disagree without attacking another person.
julietesterman 2 months ago
Durianwhiner is a bonehead. Alina674 put it well...
lineanette 2 months ago
Aggression from vegan is love? what the hell? aggression is aggression plain and simple, and it does not matter if comes from vegan, raw vegan, vegetarian, a meat eater........ and that man is highly aggressive, even if i too believe in 80 10 10 diet and veganism... it is about love, not who`s got a bigger mouth.
3escaton 2 months ago 2
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80-10-10 women this message is for you!
Freelea has breast implants that are fairly large. I am not going to comment on the diet, but if you are using her body image as an example for a model for your results use caution.
HappierHealthierYou 2 months ago
simply put-> Harley (durianrider) is a narcissist! If you know anything about psychology you will see these traits in him. He throws a lot of stones, & I wonder how he'd respond to it if the pressure was aimed at him. He needs to stop FORCING his life choices on others. If he wants to be heard, respected & followed, then he needs to stop MAKING FUN of people as if he were an 8 yr. old child, acting like a fool! He needs to grow up! I find it very hard to take this mans behavior seriously.
Alina674 2 months ago 2
@Alina674 Very well said.
1madaboutguitar 2 months ago
@1madaboutguitar Hi, I just wanted to let you know I checked out your channel & I agree with your about me description 100%. I think it would be great if you would start doing some vids about that topic. I subscribed to you. Hopefully I will hear more about your thought sometime soon...?
Alina674 2 months ago
opps
5youmukranda5 2 months ago
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5youmukranda5 2 months ago
durian divides everyonbe he is part of the problem, even if he is eating 30 bananas or 30 candy bars
HappierHealthierYou 2 months ago
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TheRawvoice 3 months ago
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Durianrider talks about eating mostly fruit,i don't do well on mostly fruit! Durianrider loves to attack in a nasty way people like David Wolfe,D.W. has helped alot of people including me,i have never seen D.W. be nasty to anyone! We all don't ride 50 miles a day on our bikes like Durianrider ,so for Durianrider a high fruit diet works but for some it doesn't...Durianrider is young & lacks wisdom,Lets see how Durianrider looks when hes 40 !
RawFoodGuy99 3 months ago
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armyyyg 3 months ago
@armyyyg Dude..He's Euro if you have never been to Europe..you probably wouldn't understand. He speaks probably 2 languages..do you? As for Durian Rider...I respect his passion...but he is sort of a fundamentalist (my opinion) but he sure is ready to demonize people who partake in meat. Daniel Vitalis isn't that bad. At least he is advocating more wild, feral diets.
danieljh 3 months ago
@KangoeroeSkippy
Isn't that exactly what Harley and Freelea do? Blame people's diets for even the slightest aggression, emotional imbalance, etc? Yes, they do.
And they call OTHER PEOPLE'S FANS "Sheeple"! HA.
jessomglol 3 months ago
@KangoeroeSkippy
I'm sorry... he doesn't use the word Vegan in his defense? Did you even WATCH the video?! LOL
He said "BUT I'M A VEGAN!" "AGGRESSIVE? I'M VEGAN!" about 100,000 times.
jessomglol 3 months ago
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jessomglol 3 months ago
Just saying something doesn't make it true, Harley.
"We're loving"? "Veganism is about peace"?
Where is your love when you are attacking someone who is trying to convey intelligent messages of anti-domestication, wild foods, etc? I don't agree with Daniel's meat-eating or colostrum either but if you respect his other messages, which you should, then you should show him some respect as a person and fellow consciousness-spreader, which you have not.
jessomglol 3 months ago
@jessomglol
"Aggression from a vegan is love"? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? So you're giving yourself and all vegans license to be as cruel and rude as they want because it comes from a place of peace and love? WHAT A JOKE. You people really follow this guy?! LOL
jessomglol 3 months ago
@jessomglol Yes people follow this guy. And theyre fitter and happier than you meat eater sheeple.
thatfruitarianchick 3 months ago
@thatfruitarianchick
lol, funny how you would assume i'm a meat eater. I'm not. Just because I have a problem with the sarcastic, childish manner in which DR delivers his message, and prefer Daniel's intelligent, peaceful approach to knowledge and nutrition, doesn't make me a "sheeple".
jessomglol 3 months ago 2
@jessomglol that is exactly what you are. and how do you consider DV to be "peaceful" and "inteligent"? last time I checked it´s not peaceful to shoot animals and it isnt inteligent to rip people off and make money of off their sheeple-thinking and stupidity. too bad you have a problem with Harley, he could change your life if you just listened to him. Daniel has absolutely nothing to offer to anyone who wants to be healthy.
thatfruitarianchick 3 months ago
@thatfruitarianchick ...that last statement is simply not true. Even if you don't agree with Daniel's meat eating, you will find he is a big proponent of raw foods and I think you agree with that.
julietesterman 2 months ago
@jessomglol if you would get off all the crap i bet you are eating, maybe your brain function would be better and you would have better judgement. go fruit yourself and then come back, wont you.
thatfruitarianchick 3 months ago
Gotta love Harley - straight up and telling things as they are, no BS! Vegan love mate! cheers.
MadeInBGR 3 months ago
Aggression is not passion; it is not even a synonym! Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, Jesus Christ- how many swear words punctuated their messages!
rawlawrules 3 months ago
Durian Rider just has low bullshit tolerance. I have been interested in Raw food, for about 4 years, and it took me about 3 min to figure out that David Wolfe, Daniel Vitalis, and a bunch of other "Guru's" were full of shit, and in it to make money. So I respect Durian Rider, and aggree with him totally. He has to be loud, and politically incorrect, because it wakes people up and makes them think!!! And guess what? The truth is not pretty, it's loud and said with passion!!
chrisdoytchinova 3 months ago 2
@chrisdoytchinova unfortunately this approach does not make people think, it just turns them off. If you want people to listen to your message, meet them where they are, don't tell them (with colorful metaphors) that they are wrong in being where they are. They are there. Be gentle and they will listen. Otherwise, you just get shut out and then you have created an adversary.
julietesterman 2 months ago
He's obviously been riding too many durians and got an extra spikey one stuck up his arse...
linghang30 3 months ago
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redmeatheart 3 months ago
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TheGhghghhjhjhj 3 months ago
I can't listen to this anymore. Harley you are an ass.
slimmyd 4 months ago
It's so hilarious that one of Harley's major points in this video is that he doesn't physically beat people up!!!
Lakkhesis1976 4 months ago
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rlllear 4 months ago
I'm all for speaking your truth. All for it, 100%. I respect people who tell it like it is. But Harley doesn't just tell it like it is -- he attacks people. There's absolutely no need to attack someone personally to get your point across. You can speak your truth just fine without launching a personal attack. He should be embarrassed of himself, but since he basically has no filter, he doesn't feel normal emotions. It's almost like he's got a disability.
MrJaketthomas 4 months ago 2
@MrJaketthomas ..... well said!
julietesterman 2 months ago
I also think that DurianRider is a confused person. He somehow thinks "violent love" that shoves concepts, thoughts and ideas into a person's face to force them to deal with things is "tough love." Not everyone knows what "love" is. Isn't it more loving to have compassion and care for how that other person feels? He clearly shows none of this and communicates that "if you can't handle it then that's your problem" kind of attitude. Just because it burns in your heart doesn't make it right.
kosai19 4 months ago 2
Daniel Vitalis has a responsibility! If he wants to sell people expensive products, give seminars and call himself a health guru, then he should be called out when he spreads misinformation. He preaches non aggression while he sues durianrider. Therefor he is a hypocrit,untill the day where he can defend what he does and says.
Rad1ka1 4 months ago
@Rad1ka1
Daniel is not suing Harley. What are you talking about?
jessomglol 3 months ago
man i should be on your side since i'm a vegetarian and i support and admire vegans, but i don't like the way you argue, i prefere rational discussions or.. on the opposite riots! so this half way peaceful/aggressive thing is not clever to me.
don't give up on what you're doing anyway.
cheers to KA you're a good person
gieibi 4 months ago
DR is a very confused person.
MrMegaBryson 4 months ago 2
this guy is confused...
timryan84 4 months ago
...and to add insult to injury DR is a total comedy vacuum - his piss takes aren't even funny. I might be more inclined to get on board with his loonacy if he had but an iota of wit about him.
Prank808 4 months ago 2
@veganchica81 get a grip love - there are levels of badness in the world...my point is that he hasn't got the balls to get in the face of people who are literally murdering and poising each other. I'm not saying Im a fan of the guy he's having a go at, what I am saying is that there are more pertinent issues than this. DR is a bully who picks his mark, Like I said if he cares so much about humanity then lets see him challenge some real life arse-holes in instead of vegan pacifists
Prank808 4 months ago
I think you really need to sit back and look at your videos and listen to what your saying. Have you ever heard of dry drunk?
linaeable 5 months ago
Tell them how it is in who's reality? Find the Lord child and relax a bit.
linaeable 5 months ago
Lot's of energy is good but it needs to be channeled.......aggression isn't good but maybe calmly assertive. Calm down child.
linaeable 5 months ago
... D/r of you're so bothered about what people put in their bodies and the repercussions on the planet why not come and pay a visit to Brixton or moss side and get "passionate" with some of the local smack and crack dealers ... Oh sorry I forgot you're more into starting on passive vegans who eat meat from time to time lol the do way more harm than dealers anyway
Prank808 5 months ago
@Prank808 passive vegans who eat meat are not vegans. They are murders.
veganchica81 4 months ago
...so arrogant "I want people to feel the way I feel" because obviously the way he feels is the way everyone should feel... Jeez he is primitive
Prank808 5 months ago
Honestly, lets puts diets aside, do people actually think this guy looks good? We, at least I am, looking for optimum health and not one thing about this guy seems prototypical or optimal. He certainly is no adonis when it comes to looks so for those who follow his lifestyle or look up to him, can you please explain to me why? Don't take this personally, just explain
CerebralPrince10 5 months ago
DV talks about being mean and hateful. What he sells people is just that! What he does to animals is just that! I agree with pinetree, he needs to not be included in the raw food/vegan events. He is neither. He is a meat eating hippy. Just bc you are a hippy, doesn't make you good. I'll take Harley, the crude truth speaking Vegan anyday!
veganchica81 5 months ago
So I hear what Harley is saying. He says that he can do anything but it's never violence because he's a vegan. Vegans are not capable of violence....apparently. And if you object to his personal attacks you just need to man up and quit being a "wuss-bag". You are so fascinating, Harley. Please tell us more and more about yourself. We could listen to you forever.
bagginshates 5 months ago
Who in the hell decides which are the TOP comments?
bagginshates 5 months ago
@bagginshates
the people do
CerebralPrince10 5 months ago
This is beautiful. Folks, remember the saying, "when your adversary is hanging himself, don't stop him." Just keep talking durianrider. Please keep talking.
bagginshates 5 months ago
I have posted on durianrider's youtube videos and he banned me. He doesn't want "debate" and he can't handle honest disagreement. He appears to be narcissistic and fearful. I honestly think there is something to the theory that his diet is damaging his nervous system.
bagginshates 5 months ago
@bagginshates He bans anyone on both youtube and 30BAD who questions his lifestyle, asks for help or points out flaws in his philosophy.
My last entertaining visit to 30BAD involved seeing a post in which he advised a member to take themselves off the medication they are taking to control schizoophrenic symptoms. Yes, his nervous system is damaged and judgment and integrity are WAY off.
Lakkhesis1976 5 months ago
@Lakkhesis1976 I have been band on his youtube channel because I pointed out some flaws in his arguments.
So weak.
If you really got a good story to tell. You wouldn't do that. Especilally when you "give tough love" like he does. I think you should be abel to take it yourself to. I didn't even do that. He's keeping his followers stupid.
It's like he's a big child. With his un cult.
PetrusMassive 2 months ago
"grow up and stop being a wuss-bag." ...SERIOUSLY?!?! did those two things really just come out of your mouth in the same breath? it's not childish to be offended by malicious and unwarranted criticism, it's childish to resort to such mud slinging in the first place. violence doesn't inherently mean PHYSICAL violence. this dude's whole attitude is negative and then he tries to say vegans promote love. HA! and who cares what's tattooed on your hand, your actions speak louder.
seldomfollows 5 months ago
@seldomfollows
I agree. What's also funny is that vegans believe that eating meat makes you agressive, yet I see more of the opposite esp. expressed in harley as a vegan, constantly attacking people who have just a different belief set as he does, being agressive, overtly critical, name calling etc whereas Daniel who eats meat, radiates much more peace and compassion and doesn't need to PREACH constantly about it because he lives it, he's at peace with himself.
dromycatcher 5 months ago
@seldomfollows Worst of all, he calls it 'passion'. And his foul attitude is contagious. I recently looked at his girlfriend Freelea's videos dating 2009 and now. The horrid change in her countenance and attitude is as palpable as her physical degeneration.
Lakkhesis1976 5 months ago
@Lakkhesis1976
haha this comment made my day
CerebralPrince10 5 months ago
Harley needs to grow up a bit as a person before people will start to listen to him. Aggressive vegans are a turn off to most people. If he is talking about how veganism promotes love, he needs to show it. I saw one of his videos..about 30 sec. in I turned it off. Enough for me. God bless him. I hope he grows up someday.
tokyopuffer 5 months ago
dude, - it's nOt a DEBATE ok
stedyplotn 5 months ago
Durrian is honest in a raw way,but the whole discussion should be about nutritional arguments and not manners.That is the main issue.
Athenian888 6 months ago
aggression is peace is you are a vegan. classic doublespeak durianrider
networkedfreedom 6 months ago
I think where Durianrider is coming from that life is short. Our time is running out and he might feel the urgency to cut through the bullshit and if there is some collateral damage then so be it. All this debate and weighing different point of views from so called open mindedness are immensely energy draining. I am also tired of people who think they are so kind and not judgmental but are not. I call them wool sweater commies. Durianrider is at least honest about where he is coming from.
Gudni777 6 months ago 8
It would be better if DR took all that "passion" and protested corporate slaughterhouses, the military-industrial complex, and all massive business leviathans that are ruining life on Earth. Instead, he goes after a guy with a total of 686 subscribers on youtube? If you want to pick a fight, take your fight to the big-time.
The way you treat others, especially your brothers and sisters in the masses, is a direct reflection of how you feel about yourself. I don't want to feel like you feel.
HeavenHands100 6 months ago 3
@HeavenHands100
Perhaps. Maybe you should take the passion you spend on youtube and use it better? It's not really our issue how someone chooses to spend his time. Also IMO it's tremendously important to attack these hucksters who talk bullshit about how they eat animals with compassion. While opposing brutal meat industry is becoming somewhat mainstream, there are more people who keep eating meat all they want and dare to claim they have compassion. Opposing such tendency is time well spent.
auffenpuffer 6 months ago
@auffenpuffer Most people would take it as a compliment when someone suggests that they take their act to the big time. No apologies coming from me. I'm guessing that a lot of homeboy's disposition results from him not making his move. He'll be happier when he becomes a dragon-slayer.
HeavenHands100 6 months ago
@auffenpuffer I agree with HeavenHands100 100%... his message is lost in his aggression.
TheRawPanda 6 months ago
Harley's the only one in this community who's actually telling the truth. Personally his delivery feels like second nature to me, it's very Australian. I'm Irish & we have a very similar style of communicating, so the delivery of his message, to me, is purely down to him being an Aussie. As regards what he's saying, who else is going to tell us this stuff? Who else is going to break down the truth from the fiction within the raw world. The raw world is full of confusion so we need you Harley.
alvahurley1 6 months ago
I made a video about Durianrider and Doug Graham. Check it out! :-) How come everyone thinks this Harley guy is so healthy? Come check out my channel and see what I have to share with everyone out there.
adkpinecone 7 months ago
Durianrider you may not hit or punch people, but your mouth will leed to you getting hit or punched. Cause and Effect , now that's tuff love...It reminds me of road rage, your can talk crap in your car, but when your on the street your actions are differnent...
954824U 7 months ago
David wolfe is sueing Sunfoof nutrition as well.....So don't feel bad.....Lawsuits are everywhere...
gayraw 7 months ago
@Natalyaandall
Vitalis hasn't done any research into water. So he's read about Schauberger, so what? So have I but I would never imply (the way DV does) that I'm more than a pimple on Schauberger's toe. Internet 'research' is not science.
DV claimed (SELLING his water) that ALL natural springs flow with water that's been underground for 10,000+ years. He's very misguided in that reading. Why so many springs flow in proportion to recent rainfall? Synchronicity with rainfall 10,000+ years ago?
sqeye 7 months ago
@NOhopeNOchangeNObama thanks so much. i agree. there is room for both of us and we are all evolving as we go :-) thanks for the support!
RawHealingPatch 7 months ago
@NOhopeNOchangeNObama i love harley's passion. i have a lot of passion myself and make a lot of debate videos. this difference is my voice is one of compassion (and i also keep it legal). i think we shouild all speak our truth but it can be done positively. so we can agree to disagree here.
RawHealingPatch 7 months ago
The truth hurts.
Guesticle 7 months ago
wow such different energies, this is a good example of both being right and both being wrong they just are an expression of their energy
LoveCenteredLife 7 months ago
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LoveCenteredLife 7 months ago
Austrailian accents rock!
sillygoose544 7 months ago
Oh, man. This is cracking me up. 'Sometimes you really hit on people hard. Does it have to be so hard? Why do you do that so hard?'
I totally don't get why people jump all over Harley for this. I'm personally someone who is 100% turned off by meanness. I've never sensed an iota of meanness from Harley. Even if I strongly disagreed with Harley, I see nothing in his style of communication that is mean or overly 'aggressive'.
He always comes across as very loving and caring.
BilliantLady 7 months ago 8
LOL. 'Shooting families of animals - that's aggressive.' Amen DR!
BilliantLady 7 months ago
I love Freelee wandering through in the background. Hi Freelee!
BilliantLady 7 months ago
Go Harley! Burn like the sun! Never quit!!!
BilliantLady 7 months ago
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lukemur13 7 months ago
I think he is just mean though, theres no reason to get up on youtube and call someone a fat bitch tit having tub of lard, which is exactly what he does. I also find the term bitch tit very distasteful from a female perspective. I am a woman, not a bitch. and to say a man has bitch tits is to say he has a female attribute.
Grace88Anderson 7 months ago
Love Harley and his passionate message of truth, logic, and common sense.
He doesn't owe anyone an apology.
ajinto 7 months ago
I have watched a lot of Harley's videos and I don't find him aggressive at all. Challenging people who are spreading false advice about health and diet is an act of love towards the people being led astray by these leaders.
SueMoseley 7 months ago
Thanks for the support gang. :)
durianriders 7 months ago 25
Harley - your life purpose of wanting to help people help themselves get fit and healthy and help the planet and help the animals at the same time, is a SHIT life purpose, really it is. By yourself, you should be breaking up all child prostitution rings, capturing murderers, tackling crime, feeding all the starving children and DEFINITELY NOT pointing out raw food people's flawed logic or when people are trying to rip people off in the raw food scene. You aggressive piece of shit
lukemur13 7 months ago
@lukemur13 Eating meat is directly related with crazed abnormal sexual behaviour. Thats why there has never been a vegan that has been a convicted rapist. Look it up.
Hey, if you want to be in NYPD go for it. Thats not my life purpose. If you spent more time focusing on your life purpose instead of ridiculing other people's purpose then you would know what your purpose is lol!
So my question to you is 'WHAT IS YOUR LIFE PURPOSE AND ARE YOU LIVING IT DAILY?' :)
durianriders 7 months ago
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lukemur13 7 months ago
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lukemur13 7 months ago
@durianriders - lol mate, i was being sarcastic, thought that it was clear haha - don't you recognise my name from positive thankful comments on most of your videos from the last 6 months!? i was having a go at some clowns that were saying you should be breaking up child prostitution rings instead of your chosen life purpose. You and Gary Yourofsky have inspired me more than anyone else on earth :) - my life purpose is to create awareness - that's why i share your videos with many people ;)
lukemur13 7 months ago
@durianriders LOL!!!! And what are the rape 'statistics' for animal product consumers who eat only ethically farmed, organic, free-ranged, grassfed produce? Should I look that up too?
Lakkhesis1976 4 months ago
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lukemur13 7 months ago
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lukemur13 7 months ago
You seem to be more with DR than DV in this "battle."
russman113 7 months ago
Good video but Mosquitos bring the violence first by stabbing us and drinking our blood. If Harley is getting bit by a mosquito does he wait for it to finish or pet it and tell it to please stop this violence!
StomperReed 7 months ago
YES! BURN LIKE THE SUN! YELL FROM THE ROOFTOPS! NEVER STOP BENG YOU DURIANRIDER!! YOU ARE HELPING SO MANY! PEACE & LOVE TO YOU AND KA! LOVE YOU GUYS!
HughManification 7 months ago
I would take Durian's kind of tough love anyday! Everything he advocates is backed by the China study, Dr. Graham's 80-10-10 book! I definetly agree that it takes more love to tell the people you care about what they don't want to hear, then to be a yes man.
HughManification 7 months ago
<3 Harley
XVedgeEdgeX 7 months ago
I got from the interviews that the DR is a bully and don't care if hi hurts people, but he makes good points about being raw vegan, and DV is a gentleman vegan or not right or not .
priscyore 7 months ago
@priscyore dv is not a vegan...he eats meat
chaquitabanana31 7 months ago
At least he's honest. :) I would rather he were this way than always walking around with a clown mask on. Most people are clowns always pretending to be happy and perfect and saying what everyone WANTS them to say. I love his honesty personally and don't really see a problem with his approach. I don't believe that he has ill intentions or he wouldn't be trying to help people. That's just me.
Holliberryful 7 months ago
This guy "DR" is a complete FARCE...it just goes to show you veganism is more violence than any other lifestyle. By the looks of it, he has depleted himself of vital nutrients and is probably the reason for his childish behaviour. For god sake, please somebody slap some sense into this buffoon. You cant just attack peoples businesses and say you are propagating the message that way. I bet he had some awful upbringing...I feel sorry for anyone that follows this arrogant child-like man!!!
ismaelovic71 7 months ago
Harley doesnt seem........ to realize that he helps others get hurt emotionally with his whole way of communication. he helps...... it love if he was more sensitive to how others are, and just deliver same message but without mockery or fun making, like the way he does David Wolfe and Daniel. peace n love n respect n sensitivity from the heart :)
0wenfox 7 months ago
Daniel's interview was much better and up until this point i have been a Durian follower but now i see Daniel has very valid points opposed to durian who just repeats the same ol tired information which isnt much to be honest. i have yet to learn one thing from durian besides his hate for others and reasons why he is better than leading health educators and advocates. Daniel also seems to be more consciously evolved and intelligent rediscovering and bringing cutting edge information to u and i.
SovereignBodyAndMind 7 months ago
I tell you what, if Harley didnt act as a mirror and did it in such a passionate way nobody would listen to him. I may or may not agree with everything he says but he says it and I have to watch. Vitalis is a smarmy used car salesman. How can people not see that? You wont get anywhere with one of Daniel's doubletalking "dialectics"
whytlillith 7 months ago
how can he talk about peace and compassion when he makes 20 minuite long videos calling wolfe and vitalis crooks? wolfe is doing a great job at getting people raw. Wolfe helped me get into raw, though now im more into the 80/10/10 way, I still have much to thanks wolfe for.. even though I dont care for his suppliments.
gringolazlo 7 months ago
altho i totally agree with his message, i would venture most people are turned off by his approach. and i get it that he doesn't care. i know it is possible to be 1000% passionate without being verbally hurtful.
is there a contradiction that he says his goal is protecting the planet, yet he feels being a locavore is secondary to personal preference to tropical food as he referred to in his recent video.
ZeBeFruity 7 months ago
I have listened to 3 men speak their truths in this video series. Thank you, Ka.
myjourneytoraw 7 months ago
Please STOP feeding these two enormous, restless, blatant anti-vegan, disinfo trolls: Lakkhesis1976 +
thewaterfalloflove
A big thank you! Feed someone who may be worth it.
ThunderPreacher 7 months ago 4