The idea is that muslims should prove that the 'progressist' interpretations are not only provisional, that the changes are here to stay, islam never a danger for the non muslim societies. I do not know what you read but Ali Gomaa, Egypt’s Grand Mufti, praised by many as a 'moderate', is honest and tells the truth: “We accept the revisions conditionally, not as the true teachings of Islam but with the understanding that this process is like medicine for a particular time".
(continued) Examples abound in hadith: Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in pledging allegiance to this man [muhammad]?’ ‘Yes. In pledging allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.’ - Ibn-Ishaq, p204
"Those present at the oath of Aqabah had sworn an allegiance to Muhammad. It was a pledge of war against all men. Allah had permitted fighting.” - Al-Tabari VI: 138
We deal with a modern attempt to save islam, not existent before the 20th century.
@superfakerbros Well muslims need much ore to prove that islam is peace. For example the muslim scholars, a vast majority of them, should at least decide that sharia is valid only in the historical context (in the remote past but not today), open the gates of the Itjihad (you need a non trivial change in order to adapt to modernity), apply critical thinking to the basis of islam (critcism of islam, using rational arguments, must not be punishable in any meaningful way) etc
Actually Sharia Law isn't interpreted correctly for a big part in the 1st place but still if I a person has a problem with it and destroys it, that's fine with me. Jihad is applied to many things such as anywhere from studying for school to defending your nation. I can see most definetely what you mean though. I'm all ears.
How can you say that muslims and Christians worship the same God when islam teaches us that infidels 'perverted' the truth, that only muslims understood the true nature of God (Christians among others with their belief in Trinity)? Taqiyya or sheer ignorance? We understand very well islam and do not need your 'guidance' (as a matter of fact many muslims do not understand the real teachings of islam)..ht tp : / / ww w . thereligionofpeace . co m / Pages / Myths-of-Islam . ht m (remove the spaces)
(continued) It is not at all easy to justify violence using the New Testament and anyway the arguments are far from being persuasive (the cardinals of the Pope Urban tried hard to find such justification, very weak anyway, for the First Crusade) . Let's be honest without the teological injunctions of islam regarding martyrdom, jihad (holy war) etc there would be much less islamic terrorism.
The real problem is how much justification is offered by the holy books of these religions for violence and terrorism. If it were so simple as you believe then the number of Christian terrorists would roughly equal that of muslim terrorists. Not the case. The truth is that the different islamic traditions can easily be used to justify violence whilst the New Testament is essentially peaceful (it may have its share of violence but it is far from the situation in islam)...
Jihad doesn't mean holy war. It means struggle in the way of God. Such as being a good person, avoiding temptations that are not allowed in your religion, to protect yourself and your family, etc.
@superfakerbros No one minimally familiar with the different islamic traditions can buy this 'explanation'. Indeed the 'lesser jihad' is supported by just one unreliable hadith whilst the 'holy war' has many references in hadiths considered reliable by muslims themselves, like those of Bukhari. Many claim indeed that the 'external jihad' can be only in self defence but again the islamic traditions give them very little support too. The 'self defence' claim is essentially meaningless.
Unfotunately for you the different islamic traditions (the qur'an included) are not infinitely elastic in interpretation, as ibn Warraq put it well (paraphrased) 'no amount of mental gymnastics or intellectual dishonesty can wipe out the dark parts of islam'. You think you have an argument but no it's pure rhetorics. By the way the claim that jihad is only defensive does not 'hold water', in fact virtually all 'struggles' can be portrayed as 'defensive' under islamic law...
When you've taken upon yourself to belong 2 a certain Society; that which is Ruled by the Creator/Allah swt's Laws, you've also given your word to abide by its rules. If these rules get disobeyed then you've broken yourself away from it & no longer form part of it- in fact you'll get disowned & discarded- trashed!
Does repentance allow you to return, back into the fold of this privileged Society? This is debatable, whether you'll
Brother , Reading the Quran and Understaning it are, TWO different Subjects. The Words of ALLAH ,are like his planets . Yes we stand on Earth , and see the Stars as a shining light , But Is that ALL which we see ? Remember QURAN is written for EVER .We learn more NEW things from it Day by DAY .
The verses which were abrogated from it were not forever. Allah said he gives something better for the verses he made null and void. How can you claim the koran is forever?
Allah said he is the great deceiver. How do you know he is not lying to you?
If that is all you see, you are no different than Gods Animals ( With all respect ), My friend A GOAT sees the leaf of a tree as FOOD . But an Intelligent Mind can write a whole book about the same leaf .
Green; Ask your Buddy whoes name is here (( ROCK studio live )) I gave him Pages and pages of response for every question he had .And i put some for him .He got Overheated and called it Quit .Now TRY ME !
if i recall correctly when christains entered jersulam in the first crusade they killed every living person... even fellow christains. when saladin took jersulam with his muslim army not a civilan was injured and not a building willing destroyed or looted and all non-muslims were allowed to remain the city as free peoples. Islam has violent roots and hates non-believers? make up ur mind
You do not recall correctly. The Crusaders were a 1000 miles from home and few in number, Do you really believe they could slaughter a place of thousands of muslims?
Face it, you never studied the Crusade. You are repeating things of which you have no understanding.
Admit your ignorance and read the history of the crusades and come out of your ignorance.
No non-believers are allowed to live freely in a muslim society, That is against the koran. Please don't try to change the koran.
Misconceptions about Islam,Is MOSTLY DUE TO the khalifas after the prophet(SA).Those who were neither chosen by ELECTION and NOR by SELECTION . Yes they made Muslims walk away from the TRUE PATH of Islam.
%85 of them do not , because they still follow the SAME FOOLS .Same the Christians , but %100 . Allah says in the Quran ; BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE, STUPID. And in 7 different places he say, BUT MOST OF THEM WILL NOT LEARN.
So only what is erroneously called the muslim extremists are really following the koran?
I think that Christ still has some practicing followers. A dozen people from my hometown of 1600 have gone to Haiti to help. So some Christians are still following Jesus!
Why would I follow the Muslim idea of Jesus? You say He was just a man. You say He did not die on the cross as a sacrifice for my sin and did not rise from the dead to give me eternal life.
What could Jesus give me, if He is the person you believe Him to be?
Koran 9:29 shows us that your Extremists are true Muslims.
In fact Allah, aka, Satan, in Koran 4:95 says Muslims who don't kill unbelievers won't receive as great a reward in the Bordello of Allah in the Afterlife.
Paul told you that Jesus died on the Cross for your Sins.Now tell us this; WHY Would a GOD who created the whole universe would have to come down in the body of a MAN to forgive YOUR MISSERABL SINS? Can he not do that just staying where he is ?
OH that is right , you have a God who Doesnt know his way around the Garden of Edan .
The killing in my Gospel are history, not doctrine.
The koran is easy to understand! Mohamed said so. Have you really read it?
Sura 8 is all about dividing war booty. easy to understand.
Sura 9 is all about killing Infidels and is very easy to understand.
I do understand the koran and that is why I abhor it.
Until I read the koran, I thought you guys were something like Catholics, different belief but harmless! Wow! A muslim said read the koran and I did! I said 'this is the Doctrine of Satan!'
There is no compulsion in the faith of Jesus. You cannot be born Christian or be Christian because your parents are Christian or because your uncle is a minister. No one can force you to be Christian. It must come from your heart. You must say I accept Jesus as my Saviour! And mean it, not just say it.
Wars in Iraq and Afghan are bad, I agree with you. Believe me, Jesus loves even Muslims!
Rock. How can you believe in a Bible that says , a 200 lb. Woman has come from THE LEFT RIB of a 200 lb man ? How big are You RIBS ?? If the RIB was that big Man should be walking BEND to the Left , and you should be Missing some RIBS, from your left side too.
Hebrews understood image to mean in a human form, not that of an animal as with the Egyptian allahs.
Hebrew and English are literary languages, hence the Torah, and Shakespeare. I admit our language presents difficulties to non-native speakers.
Sure, I look like God and so do you. That is the beauty of a relationship with Jesus, God Incarnate, the feeling of love and family! You may join, since there is no penalty for previous disbelief or sin.
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
You have Just Conteradicted your own Bible.
If God is not a man , What makes you think you look like him ?
rock; STOP Beating your self about JESUS . Just answer the Questions. What kind of GOD do you believe that NEEDS A MAN ,to be KILLED on two pieces of wood , in order that he forgive your SINS ? IS HE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT Killing an Innosent man ?
Do you have any Figure on How many People Have Been Killed in the name of Christianity ?Please GO AND READ the History The Estimate is more than a Billion.
And Yes Muslims LOVE Jesus too . You dont see any Muslim say Bad words about him , Do you ?
And , No one is Considered as Muslim , If he does not Believe Juses as a Prophet .
Rock; All through your Bible , Jesus keep saying , I AM THE MESSENGER OF GOD.
16-Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
28,29-Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not. ( HE IS A MESSENGER )
29-But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.(HE IS A MESSENGER)
Rock; My friend you are IGNORANT about your own BIBLE. What you Fail to understand is that it was PAUL (SAUL) A LAIR , who changed Jesus to God for you .
"Then they asked him, 'Where is your father?' 'You do not know me or my Father,' Jesus replied. 'If you knew me, you would know my Father also'" (John 8:19) "'I tell you the truth,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am!'" (John 8:58). "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).
Rock you also know the name of ppl, youre quoting here did not even get to see the end of the written bibles- meaning they started it (bible) off but did NOT finish IT, someone else finish the translation from Greek- let alone the original Scripture, which was written in Aramaic language, the language of Isah ibn Maryam!
Tiger? No Muslim can defeat a Christian because the Christian speaks truth and has a logical mind. You lie because you are commanded to do so by Allah, aka Satan. See, you call yourself a predator, even though you can't spell the word. Jesus, God Incarnate called Himself the Lamb of God.
Islam is full of hate.. How many times is the word love found in the Koran?
when a Buddhist dies the spirit of the dead person incarnates into another entity, thereby the spirit continues to live in whatever form it chooses to occupy.
Rook, you're so misguided. You have now turned Jesus ibn Maryam into a Buddhist, when you clearly know that he was a Muslim- a prophet~ the one believed in monotheism~believing in one Creator/Allah of the Universe & mankind & all that lives as well as all that is yet to come!
Lies. Infidels are to be killed. Muslims are not to make friends with them. If Muslims are outnumbered by lip service to Infidels but harbour hatred in your heart.
No wonder you bastards try to kill us. That's the only way you are guaranteed to go the whorehouse in the sky!
What a merciless god this Allah is. He is just like Satan, a liar, a deceiver, a cheat. And a good Muslim is all those things.
Do not try to change the Koran. Allah,aka Satan has commanded you to hate Infidels! Deal with it!
It doesn't at all sound like the heaven thats been described in any of the books of knowledge BUT it does sound very much like the description your culture of debauchery & killing of unborn children!
Oh BTW in the Noble Quran, there are heavens- not just one but many!
It does say support Israel. It says to treat all men equally. But the Koran says blacks are fit only for servants.I heard the Apostle say: 'Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.... Allah sent down concerning him: 'To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, 'If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'
many many more, terrorism is everywhere in the hearts of all religious extreme fundamentalist groups. islam strongly opposes suicide and killing of innocent human beings.the proof is there but ignorance breeds ignorance.
In Northern Ireland there have been a large number of terrorist acts committed by Christians of both the Protestant and Catholic branches. These terrorist acts have spilled over into both England (especially London) and Ireland. For example, the Provisional IRA detonated bombs in London as late as 1996, and the Real IRA did the same as late as march 2001.
On April 17, 1995 Timothy McVeigh reportedly picked up a 20-foot Ryder truck from Elliott's Body Shop in Junction City. The truck was filled with roughly 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of ammonium nitrate, an agricultural fertilizer, and nitromethane, a highly volatile motor-racing fuel-a mixture also known as Kinepak or ANFO (ammonium nitrate/fuel oil).
NItromethane is 110 octane which makes not as volatile as regular unleaded fuel octane 87 because it needs to withstand great compression before it burns. Please get your facts right.
Please quote the teaching of Jesus from the New Testament which McVeigh might have used to excuse his crime.
David Robert McMenemy , was charged with 2nd degree arson for driving through what he believed was an abortion clinic, he failed. why wasnt he sent to guantono bay along with all his male family members and friends? thats terrorsm however not all christians are terrorists/fundamentalist.thats ludicrious.
to all the non believers, what more can be said that you talk so harshly of islam? the prrof is there, however you walk blindly and talk without listening. It is peacefull, no matter what you label us, it will never taint our religion.
Al-Kafiroon:--- In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful Say: O ye that reject Faith! (1) I worship not that which ye worship, (2) Nor will ye worship that which I worship. (3) And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, (4) Nor will ye worship that which I worship. (5) To you be your Way, and to me mine. (6)
I hope you die of old age after a long life. If you do then at that time when you are dying and the sight fades, and the tunnel vision apears because the brain is not getting enough oxygen, and your life flashes in your mind because the nurons in your brain are firing, when the sounds begin to echo and go faint, you will finally realize it is the true end. that there is no god, and that you have wasted the only life you had, worshiping something non-existant, and followed a false prophet.
Youre describing the experience an alcoholic & of a drug addict- just after the "shot" & the perceived bliss which it's suppose to achieved thereafter, NOT OF A DEATH STUPOUR!
In the death stupour, as related in the Quran is far different,
I know it's different in the Koran, that is the point. When that day comes for you, it will happen like I said, and not the way it is said in the Koran. Then, you will know Islam is false.
Allah swt's word; in the Holy Quran is true & final as it has been for the past almost fifteen hundred years, & InshaAllah it will continue to be just like that till the Judgement Day!
You ask yourself when was the last time you spoke the truthful words- see you cant even recall that, so what you say is as good as you, full of deception & falsehood just like the Satan who has vowed to lead ppl astray to last moment of person's life!
You go right on believing that. but on that day, and that minute, you will know that all you have been taught about tht Koran, about Allah, about Muhammed bweing the prophet. You will know it is all false, and that you folowed a false prophet.
Look. The whole concept of some "god" creating everything is silly. all religions read as fiction because that is what they are. The fact that anybody believes this nonsense shows how ignorant and stupid people can be. Just look at how you learned of "Allah" or any other god in any other faith. You heard it from PEOPLE, who only SAID god wrote the Koran, but what if they lied or were crazy? People tell lies every single day. Wake up. None of it is real.
What benefit would anybody have gained by lying about Allah swt or His Holy Scripture?
The man has his free will either 2 follow the Scripture or 2 reject it, there is no compulsion!
"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods like "money & other worldly possessions" & follow the particular rules & regulations of worship according to their own natures,"
Nothing is going with in the grave or come 2 you aide in hereafter!
Thats easy to answer. Muhammed would lie about Gabriel comeing to him as a way for Muihammed to gain power. To get followers. He told slaves that if they accepted Allah, they would be equals. the slaves like that so again, Muhammed had many more followers. Ciountless warlords have done similar things throughout history.
If there is no compulsion, then there should be no Jizia tax. or restriction on other religions or permits to build or repair a church.
NO COMPULSION IN RELIGIOUS MATTERS. YOU NANNAS- DON'T LIVE LIKE A LEECH- SPONGING OFF OTHERS!
Everyone has to pay for the ppl employed who provide municipal services.
The employees of this type of services need to be fed, clothed like everyone else, so stop making silly remarks- YOURE DIGGING YOURSELF DEEEPER & DEEPER INTO THE HOLE !
Now your just practicing Taqiyah. Protections from what? those very same muslims? What are these so called special services? I do not need them or want them, and so I will never pay it.
Arwe you really that dense? Jizya is not an EQUAL tax. It's only equal if ALL the people pay the exact SAME tax. Muslim AND Non-muslim. It is therefore a compulsion.
You Missunderstood me about how GOD reacts to your Behavior .Yes you did .God will have Mercey on those who have Mercy on others. but NO he will not LIE for you lies . When you lie ,You are following the SATAN , and THE GOD will punish you with him.And by the same token , Some one Will lie to you and makes you Miserable.
why lie? The same reason that commies lied about their programs. Or Nazis lied about what they would do to Jews and others. Or the Mafia lies about its jitza.
Koran 48:29 Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves,
Sounds like compulsion. To a thinking person, at least.
The abrogated verses are final, in the sense that they not longer pertain. But why can't more verses be abrogated? Sura 3:54 says Allah is the Great Deceiver! Why would you believe the Koran is "written in stone" as English idiom goes?
you said,Sura 3:54 says Allah is the Great Deceiver.
My friend; Allah ,reacts same to his people . If you are kind , he will be kind to you , If you are mean to his people , he will be same to you , And YES , if you DECEIVE People , He will Deceive you , If you TRICK , people , He will Trick you .
So this allah is no better than a man? Loves his friends and hates his enemies? This allah does not rise above the level of a petulant child? Play with me me of I will take my toys home?
The Torah is corrupted, you know that. We know it was Ishmael who Allah asked Abraham to sacrifice, yet the Torah says it was Jehovah who asked for Isaac!
My ancestors probably did kill a lot of you. But, they did it without the approval of Christ. And that's really the difference. Jesus abhors violence. Mo and Allah,aka Satan relish in it!
So, do I take the Torah at its word? Or is it corrupted? How about the Gospels? Mine say Jesus is the Son of God!
The Lord God/Allah swt in the Genesis made an everlasting covenant with Prophet Abraham. this covenant identifies the descendant of Abraham & must be obeyed. He who disobeys this Command, he has broken the covenant & shall be cut off from his ppl.
Do U know what this covenant was
Are U one of the ppl whove disobeyed this command? if yes then U R not part of his ppl. This covenant, btw was obeyed by Isah ibn Maryam so he was part of the Abraham Tribe.
Your translation is not authorized, The accepted word is deceived not planned.
The entire koran should be abrogated but you avoid the question, not artfully either, but as a scared rabbit. If you are a muslim, you know that allah, aka Satan substituted verses. Sura 2:106 states this.
Stop pretending to know about islam, you are a phoney, The koran is the doctrine of Satan and mo is its criminally insane "prophet".
This is nothing more than Taqiyah, a deception. As usual muslims are only telling thieir pro- islam side of things and leaving the rest out, or changing it. by Juris prudence, the later teachings in the koran have the higher priority, and that includes Sura 9, the most violent. - Left our. It also indicated that Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same god. Not true, only similar in nature. Islam is also not a religion, but a 100% way of life not compatible with western culture.
The Holy Quran Surah 9 refers to the battle of Badr; some Ayat refer to the idolators breaking the peace agreement with Muslims. Allah gave permission to fight after being attacked.
It is true that both Jesus and Muhammad, as well as all true prophets from Adam, Noah, etc. (peace be upon them all), carried essentially the same message: Islam, that is,
monotheism and submission to the will and guidance of God. However, the details were not identical, but varied to cope with the time and nation addressed.
If you visit the birth place of Jesus (pbuh), and look at an Arabic Christian Bible, you will find Allah is the reference for God.
If you read more carefully you will find that the name of god is Iehova. So there seems to be a conflict there. Let us also talk about Jihad, which the video indicates to be an equal self struggle, as one against enemies. Yet of the 100 some odd hadiths that reference Jihad, only one talk about the self struggle, the reast are all of conquest by the sword.
There's a contradiction about the name Jehovah/Yahweh/YHWH / (It is well-attested by Judeo-Christian scholars that the Bible is a collection of writings done in different periods of history, by different writers. The various
denominations of Christianity are not in agreement on the canon — which is a list of books accepted by the Church as authoritative or divinely inspired — of the Christian Bible. The Ques: Wher's the original Bible? Is Bible God's words???
The holy bible is a compilation of writings made up by crazy men who claimed god talked to them, or through them to others. I can find such crazy men on any street corner today. You and I have no debate on this issue. I agree with you. The the "holy bible" is made up by man.
Muslims believe that Jesus was supported by the Injeel which was revealed by Allah to him. However, the Injeel was exposed to manipulation and alteration. Since we do not know which parts were added to the original text, we believe in the provisions confirmed by the Quran and Sunnah and reject whatever contradicts them.
for those who claimed; May Allah guide them and us to the right path. Poor them they don't know what they are doing!
Scholars describe it. Scholars should not have to describe it. It should be crystal clear so that it is practiced by eveyone in that way. If that is truely what was intended. The one true god would have gotten it right in the first place. Also, a note about (PBUH). Do you use the acronym when you say it? Then you should write it out every time as well. "Peace be upon him".
WE muslims follow original sources we go back to the Holy Qur-and Hadeeth, AlhamduLillah.
About a note (PBUH) Thank you very much for the explaination. I give you a credit to it. May Allah Subhana Llah Wa Taala guide you and show you the beauty of Islam. " Amiiin"
Wallah I am not perfect I am still leraning! I appreciate it.
Jihad by the tongue: struggle of good against evil thru talks, dialogues, debates and speeches eg form of dawah (proselytizing), Khutbas (sermons) or lectures.
Jihad by the pen:the struggle for good/evil thru scholarly study of Islam and ijtihad (legal reasoning) which to drive solutions and rulings from the Quran and the teachin of Profet, to b implemented in different and dynamically changing contexts. This form of jihad covered scientific and medical studies n science. cont..
That tounge is often forked. Abrogation of statements and contracts and oaths which are so easily tossed aside because a better one scomes along. That makes such agreements useless to begin with. As for the medical studies, the bloddy attacks Muhammed led, no doubt allowed him to see and study the bodies in much detail. The other science is common sense or so vague it can cover almost anything. I'm not impressed.
Allah says in His Quran: Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things. [Surah al-Baqarah: 256]
IF You trick some one , HE WILL Appoint another person to DO IT TO YOU .If you Steal for some one , He will send another person to take it from you . If you are old enough , you should have experinced this already.
About 9;5,29 . My friend All the punishments in the Quran is based on CONDITIONS. If you have a society full of Corrouption , imposed on you by TV , & Magezine and Etc. . You can NOT Apply the laws of GOD . until you clean the cause . Would you Insulate the attic , where you have a leaking roof ?
Allah says: So if they dispute with you, say I have submitted my whole self to Allah, and so have those who follow me. And say to the People of the Scripture and to the unlearned: Do you also submit yourselves? If they do, then they are on right guidance. But if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message. And in Allahs sight are all of His servants. [Surah Al `Imran: 20]
This video was not designed to impress the ppl of your calibre- youve many things to keep you occupied- this video is for the ppl who are able to understand & reflect whilst enjoying the unmeasured rewards of Allah swt!
The arrogant, reluctant & conveniently blinded ppl can be guided but rarely forced to walk on or to the righteous path, except with the Grace of Allah swt! The Almighty high above & dwells in the hearts & minds, giving comfort to those who seek His pleasure
Almighty? Allah is not the almighty. I he is, then let him show is power without the involvement of man. no the only Almighty, is the great pink elephant. The pink elephant blew his trunk and created light. he stomped on the blackness of space with his mighty feet, and created the ground.
Jihad by hand: struggle in cause of God using economic power, to finance the struggle for justice and liberation.
Jihad by the sword:(armed fighting in the cause of God) where ppl fight against oppression. This form of jihad is wht referred to by Profet PUH as (the lesser Jihad). The intention of the prophet was not to minimize the importance of jihad by the sword, if needed, but to maximize the importance of inner jihad which is the struggle against lust and evil desires.
The problem with all this is, I do not want to live that way and if you try to force that way of life upon me, or my country, or my city, or my family, then you are the oppressor. I am also not convinced that Muhammed did not simply lie about gabriel coming to him. If Muhammed lied, then all of islam is a lie. And like I said, I find crazy people claiming to be prophets on almost any street corner.
It is the duty of the Muslims to establish proof of validity of Islam to the people in order for the truth to be distinct from falsehood. Once that is done, whoever wishes to accept Islam may do so and whoever wishes to continue upon their belief may do so. No one is to be threatened or harmed in any way should they chose not to accept Islam.
Unfortunately the hearts of some people are not willing and/or able to understand the beauty of islam but Allah guides whom He wills.
If you were force to do something against your wishes then it would be considered as a form of oppression but if you're just shown the true word of God Allah the Almighty, the choice to accept or reject it will entirely be yours.
It's our duty as Muslims to present the correct picture of Islam. All praises are due to Allah Subhana Wa Taalah; The Allmighty. May He guide them and guide all of us to the right path. 'Amiiin.'
Beautiful video, nice info as well 7ayak ALLAH agi may ALLAH ta3ala give u firdaus for clearing those miss conceptions. For us it's simple but they don't understand i don't blame them. I would hate muslims to if i didn't knew anything about them and only heared what the tv tells about us. Giar inscha ALLAH may god almighty most gracious most merciful lead them to the straight path of islam inscha ALLAH
Jazaka Llah khayr for watching. Amiiin for the duaa I wish you the same too brother, May Allah SWT guide them and us all to the right path. No one is perfect we are still learning.
The idea is that muslims should prove that the 'progressist' interpretations are not only provisional, that the changes are here to stay, islam never a danger for the non muslim societies. I do not know what you read but Ali Gomaa, Egypt’s Grand Mufti, praised by many as a 'moderate', is honest and tells the truth: “We accept the revisions conditionally, not as the true teachings of Islam but with the understanding that this process is like medicine for a particular time".
philsci1 1 year ago
(continued) Examples abound in hadith: Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in pledging allegiance to this man [muhammad]?’ ‘Yes. In pledging allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.’ - Ibn-Ishaq, p204
"Those present at the oath of Aqabah had sworn an allegiance to Muhammad. It was a pledge of war against all men. Allah had permitted fighting.” - Al-Tabari VI: 138
We deal with a modern attempt to save islam, not existent before the 20th century.
philsci1 1 year ago
@philsci1
It doesn't mean a literal war.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
@superfakerbros Well muslims need much ore to prove that islam is peace. For example the muslim scholars, a vast majority of them, should at least decide that sharia is valid only in the historical context (in the remote past but not today), open the gates of the Itjihad (you need a non trivial change in order to adapt to modernity), apply critical thinking to the basis of islam (critcism of islam, using rational arguments, must not be punishable in any meaningful way) etc
philsci1 1 year ago
@philsci1
Actually Sharia Law isn't interpreted correctly for a big part in the 1st place but still if I a person has a problem with it and destroys it, that's fine with me. Jihad is applied to many things such as anywhere from studying for school to defending your nation. I can see most definetely what you mean though. I'm all ears.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
How can you say that muslims and Christians worship the same God when islam teaches us that infidels 'perverted' the truth, that only muslims understood the true nature of God (Christians among others with their belief in Trinity)? Taqiyya or sheer ignorance? We understand very well islam and do not need your 'guidance' (as a matter of fact many muslims do not understand the real teachings of islam)..ht tp : / / ww w . thereligionofpeace . co m / Pages / Myths-of-Islam . ht m (remove the spaces)
philsci1 1 year ago
(continued) It is not at all easy to justify violence using the New Testament and anyway the arguments are far from being persuasive (the cardinals of the Pope Urban tried hard to find such justification, very weak anyway, for the First Crusade) . Let's be honest without the teological injunctions of islam regarding martyrdom, jihad (holy war) etc there would be much less islamic terrorism.
philsci1 1 year ago
The real problem is how much justification is offered by the holy books of these religions for violence and terrorism. If it were so simple as you believe then the number of Christian terrorists would roughly equal that of muslim terrorists. Not the case. The truth is that the different islamic traditions can easily be used to justify violence whilst the New Testament is essentially peaceful (it may have its share of violence but it is far from the situation in islam)...
philsci1 1 year ago
@philsci1
Jihad doesn't mean holy war. It means struggle in the way of God. Such as being a good person, avoiding temptations that are not allowed in your religion, to protect yourself and your family, etc.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
@superfakerbros No one minimally familiar with the different islamic traditions can buy this 'explanation'. Indeed the 'lesser jihad' is supported by just one unreliable hadith whilst the 'holy war' has many references in hadiths considered reliable by muslims themselves, like those of Bukhari. Many claim indeed that the 'external jihad' can be only in self defence but again the islamic traditions give them very little support too. The 'self defence' claim is essentially meaningless.
philsci1 1 year ago
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@philsci1
What I have said is what Jihad is.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
@philsci1
The self defense so-called claim is fully supported. I have read the Quran and unlike you I have read it as a whole.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
Unfotunately for you the different islamic traditions (the qur'an included) are not infinitely elastic in interpretation, as ibn Warraq put it well (paraphrased) 'no amount of mental gymnastics or intellectual dishonesty can wipe out the dark parts of islam'. You think you have an argument but no it's pure rhetorics. By the way the claim that jihad is only defensive does not 'hold water', in fact virtually all 'struggles' can be portrayed as 'defensive' under islamic law...
philsci1 1 year ago
islam is a violent religion, muhammad told his soldiers to kill nonbelievers he brainwashed all of arabia.
MrZetruth 1 year ago
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When you've taken upon yourself to belong 2 a certain Society; that which is Ruled by the Creator/Allah swt's Laws, you've also given your word to abide by its rules. If these rules get disobeyed then you've broken yourself away from it & no longer form part of it- in fact you'll get disowned & discarded- trashed!
Does repentance allow you to return, back into the fold of this privileged Society? This is debatable, whether you'll
ever be able to follow the Society's Rules,
U R unreliable!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
you havent read the koran
ezmereldagreen 2 years ago
Green;
Brother , Reading the Quran and Understaning it are, TWO different Subjects. The Words of ALLAH ,are like his planets . Yes we stand on Earth , and see the Stars as a shining light , But Is that ALL which we see ? Remember QURAN is written for EVER .We learn more NEW things from it Day by DAY .
irooni100 2 years ago
The verses which were abrogated from it were not forever. Allah said he gives something better for the verses he made null and void. How can you claim the koran is forever?
Allah said he is the great deceiver. How do you know he is not lying to you?
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
yes all i see are stars...what do you see mate?
ezmereldagreen 2 years ago
green;
If that is all you see, you are no different than Gods Animals ( With all respect ), My friend A GOAT sees the leaf of a tree as FOOD . But an Intelligent Mind can write a whole book about the same leaf .
irooni100 2 years ago
lol...you havent answered my question....methinks you are a fake....a pretender to depth
ezmereldagreen 2 years ago
Green; Ask your Buddy whoes name is here (( ROCK studio live )) I gave him Pages and pages of response for every question he had .And i put some for him .He got Overheated and called it Quit .Now TRY ME !
irooni100 2 years ago
green;
You have not ask any question, All i have read from you has been Sarcastic Response.
irooni100 2 years ago
if i recall correctly when christains entered jersulam in the first crusade they killed every living person... even fellow christains. when saladin took jersulam with his muslim army not a civilan was injured and not a building willing destroyed or looted and all non-muslims were allowed to remain the city as free peoples. Islam has violent roots and hates non-believers? make up ur mind
adamdd09 2 years ago
You do not recall correctly. The Crusaders were a 1000 miles from home and few in number, Do you really believe they could slaughter a place of thousands of muslims?
Face it, you never studied the Crusade. You are repeating things of which you have no understanding.
Admit your ignorance and read the history of the crusades and come out of your ignorance.
No non-believers are allowed to live freely in a muslim society, That is against the koran. Please don't try to change the koran.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Misconceptions about Islam,Is MOSTLY DUE TO the khalifas after the prophet(SA).Those who were neither chosen by ELECTION and NOR by SELECTION . Yes they made Muslims walk away from the TRUE PATH of Islam.
irooni100 2 years ago
Are they now walking in the right path?
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
LIVE;
%85 of them do not , because they still follow the SAME FOOLS .Same the Christians , but %100 . Allah says in the Quran ; BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE, STUPID. And in 7 different places he say, BUT MOST OF THEM WILL NOT LEARN.
irooni100 2 years ago
So only what is erroneously called the muslim extremists are really following the koran?
I think that Christ still has some practicing followers. A dozen people from my hometown of 1600 have gone to Haiti to help. So some Christians are still following Jesus!
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
rock;
You got it all wrong . A real muslim is NOT EXTREMIST .A terrorist is Terrorist , no matter Jew, Christian , or Muslim .
And NO . No christian is followin Jesus today, If they did , they would be a MUSLIM today .
irooni100 2 years ago
Why would I follow the Muslim idea of Jesus? You say He was just a man. You say He did not die on the cross as a sacrifice for my sin and did not rise from the dead to give me eternal life.
What could Jesus give me, if He is the person you believe Him to be?
Koran 9:29 shows us that your Extremists are true Muslims.
In fact Allah, aka, Satan, in Koran 4:95 says Muslims who don't kill unbelievers won't receive as great a reward in the Bordello of Allah in the Afterlife.
A good Muslim must kill.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Rock;
It was PAUL who put The JESUS on the cross , my friend . Why dont you read the Appocalyps of Peter ?Jesus NEVER was put on the cross.
irooni100 2 years ago
The Gospels of Matthew and Mark were written before Paul wrote anything. The Jews recorded the crucifixion of Jesus in the Talmud.
In any case, my Gospel tells me Jesus died on the Cross for my sins! Mohamed died, poisoned by a brave and godly Jewish girl!
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
rock;
Paul told you that Jesus died on the Cross for your Sins.Now tell us this; WHY Would a GOD who created the whole universe would have to come down in the body of a MAN to forgive YOUR MISSERABL SINS? Can he not do that just staying where he is ?
OH that is right , you have a God who Doesnt know his way around the Garden of Edan .
irooni100 2 years ago
rock;
The Jews recorded the crucifixion of Jesus in the Talmud.
WHERE?Give me the Book and the verse..
I know they HATED HIM.
1- Yashu (Jesus) is in Hell being boiled in hot excrement .( Gittin 57a) * Naozobellah*
2- Yashu is an acronym for the Jewish curse," May his name be wiped out forevermore " * Naozobellah*
4-The Christians who reject the Talmud will go to HELL and be punished there for generations .( Rosh Hashanah 17a)
irooni100 2 years ago
rock.
Jews hated you, and you carry their book?
1-The Gentiles are not HUMAN they are BEASTS. (Baba Mezia 114b)
2- If you EAT with a Gentile it is the same as eating with a DOG .( Tosapoth ,Jebamoth 94b)
3- Even the best of the goyim should all be killed (Soferim 15)
And; THEY THOUGHT They Crusified Jesus.
irooni100 2 years ago
The Talmud is not the Torah. I do not carry their book. I have faith in the book of Jesus, God Incarnate.
Save your silliness for Muslims.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Rock; You do not understand the Quran .Please STOP attacking it . There are Over 400 Killing in your Bible .
irooni100 2 years ago
The killing in my Gospel are history, not doctrine.
The koran is easy to understand! Mohamed said so. Have you really read it?
Sura 8 is all about dividing war booty. easy to understand.
Sura 9 is all about killing Infidels and is very easy to understand.
I do understand the koran and that is why I abhor it.
Until I read the koran, I thought you guys were something like Catholics, different belief but harmless! Wow! A muslim said read the koran and I did! I said 'this is the Doctrine of Satan!'
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Rock;
Do not give me this CRAP about killing in your Bible is History .
irooni100 2 years ago
. You are doing MORE killing today than back then .
irooni100 2 years ago
. Iraq and Afghanistan war , still going on ,
irooni100 2 years ago
and you are FORCING you Faith of all .
irooni100 2 years ago
.So you can Quit this Bull SHIT..
irooni100 2 years ago
There is no compulsion in the faith of Jesus. You cannot be born Christian or be Christian because your parents are Christian or because your uncle is a minister. No one can force you to be Christian. It must come from your heart. You must say I accept Jesus as my Saviour! And mean it, not just say it.
Wars in Iraq and Afghan are bad, I agree with you. Believe me, Jesus loves even Muslims!
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Rock;
How can you Believe in a Bible that says . You are Made in the IMAGE of God ?Do you look like GOD ?
irooni100 2 years ago
Rock. How can you believe in a Bible that says , a 200 lb. Woman has come from THE LEFT RIB of a 200 lb man ? How big are You RIBS ?? If the RIB was that big Man should be walking BEND to the Left , and you should be Missing some RIBS, from your left side too.
irooni100 2 years ago
The Hebrew does not say rib, it says curve.
Hebrews understood image to mean in a human form, not that of an animal as with the Egyptian allahs.
Hebrew and English are literary languages, hence the Torah, and Shakespeare. I admit our language presents difficulties to non-native speakers.
Sure, I look like God and so do you. That is the beauty of a relationship with Jesus, God Incarnate, the feeling of love and family! You may join, since there is no penalty for previous disbelief or sin.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Rock;
Do you know this?
Num. 23;19
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
You have Just Conteradicted your own Bible.
If God is not a man , What makes you think you look like him ?
irooni100 2 years ago
rock; STOP Beating your self about JESUS . Just answer the Questions. What kind of GOD do you believe that NEEDS A MAN ,to be KILLED on two pieces of wood , in order that he forgive your SINS ? IS HE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT Killing an Innosent man ?
irooni100 2 years ago
Rock;
You have All things that AN APE has also. Does this mean , that your God created the APES in his own image too ?
Tell me WHO HAS SEEN GOD , that wrote in your Bible , you are IMAGE OF HIM ?Wake UP
irooni100 2 years ago
Rock;
Do you have any Figure on How many People Have Been Killed in the name of Christianity ?Please GO AND READ the History The Estimate is more than a Billion.
And Yes Muslims LOVE Jesus too . You dont see any Muslim say Bad words about him , Do you ?
And , No one is Considered as Muslim , If he does not Believe Juses as a Prophet .
irooni100 2 years ago
Show me where I have said an ill word about my Saviour, Jesus, God Incarnate! Not your weak Muslim version but the Christian Saviour!!!!!
I am proud not to believe that Jesus is a mere prophet!
Name the history book you found this figure of one billion!
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Rock; All through your Bible , Jesus keep saying , I AM THE MESSENGER OF GOD.
16-Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
28,29-Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not. ( HE IS A MESSENGER )
29-But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.(HE IS A MESSENGER)
irooni100 2 years ago
Rock; My friend you are IGNORANT about your own BIBLE. What you Fail to understand is that it was PAUL (SAUL) A LAIR , who changed Jesus to God for you .
irooni100 2 years ago
There are lots of verses but look here.
"Then they asked him, 'Where is your father?' 'You do not know me or my Father,' Jesus replied. 'If you knew me, you would know my Father also'" (John 8:19) "'I tell you the truth,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am!'" (John 8:58). "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Rock you also know the name of ppl, youre quoting here did not even get to see the end of the written bibles- meaning they started it (bible) off but did NOT finish IT, someone else finish the translation from Greek- let alone the original Scripture, which was written in Aramaic language, the language of Isah ibn Maryam!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
rock;
That is right. You have NO ANSWER. Just like the rest , they come to us as Pradetors , but when they Face a TIGER , they RUN and hide.
irooni100 2 years ago
Tiger? No Muslim can defeat a Christian because the Christian speaks truth and has a logical mind. You lie because you are commanded to do so by Allah, aka Satan. See, you call yourself a predator, even though you can't spell the word. Jesus, God Incarnate called Himself the Lamb of God.
Islam is full of hate.. How many times is the word love found in the Koran?
Answer that, Mister Pussycat!
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Rock; I am over posted . I send to your box.
irooni100 2 years ago
so do the Buddhist.
when a Buddhist dies the spirit of the dead person incarnates into another entity, thereby the spirit continues to live in whatever form it chooses to occupy.
Rook, you're so misguided. You have now turned Jesus ibn Maryam into a Buddhist, when you clearly know that he was a Muslim- a prophet~ the one believed in monotheism~believing in one Creator/Allah of the Universe & mankind & all that lives as well as all that is yet to come!
Make up you mind what U want JC to BE!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
Jesus did not incarnate into another person, so your analogy is wrong.
As for your claim that I "have now turned Jesus into a Buddhist" is clearly nonsensical. Jesus changes men, men do not change Jesus!
I noticed your scat line uses the initials JC meaning Jesus Christ, meaning Jesus the Messiah, meaning Jesus the Saviour of the World!
That's the only thing you got right!
Why are you trying to save me? The Koran forbids Muslims to seek the friendship of Infidels or even care about them.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
IT IS He, Allah swt, the Almighty selecting the deserving ones, the ones who need to be saved, yet many will be allowed to pass by!
A human being has no power to persuade anyone to be saved from anything.
The Noble Quran demands the non-believers are to be treated with respect & show no hostility towards them, provided, that they pose no danger to you.
mawnyz1 2 years ago
Lies. Infidels are to be killed. Muslims are not to make friends with them. If Muslims are outnumbered by lip service to Infidels but harbour hatred in your heart.
No wonder you bastards try to kill us. That's the only way you are guaranteed to go the whorehouse in the sky!
What a merciless god this Allah is. He is just like Satan, a liar, a deceiver, a cheat. And a good Muslim is all those things.
Do not try to change the Koran. Allah,aka Satan has commanded you to hate Infidels! Deal with it!
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
This is your interpretation.
You're entitled to your opinion & nobody wants to change that but the facts can NOT be denied, nor the truth.
In the Noble Quran, it's said: Transgress or oppress NOT anyone for Allah swt loves not the transgressors or the oppressors.
mawnyz1 2 years ago
There is NO need to use foul language,
If you can NOT be civil don't bother replying.
shalom
mawnyz1 2 years ago
72 virgins and constant sex and unlimited wine? Sounds like a whorehouse or a frathouse. It just doesn't sound like heaven.
OH, I forgot the unlimited supply of little boys!
Is Jesus in your bordello?
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Agreed!
It doesn't at all sound like the heaven thats been described in any of the books of knowledge BUT it does sound very much like the description your culture of debauchery & killing of unborn children!
Oh BTW in the Noble Quran, there are heavens- not just one but many!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
o does the bible says anyting about goin to war wid middle east and kill them.or does it says support israel?? i bet it does since its fake!
or did it says be cruel to color ppl during our past history?
and did it says that blacks to obey white??
konjit2007 2 years ago
It does say support Israel. It says to treat all men equally. But the Koran says blacks are fit only for servants.I heard the Apostle say: 'Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.... Allah sent down concerning him: 'To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, 'If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
many many more, terrorism is everywhere in the hearts of all religious extreme fundamentalist groups. islam strongly opposes suicide and killing of innocent human beings.the proof is there but ignorance breeds ignorance.
beyzasmum 2 years ago
Doesn't Sura 9:5 and 9:29 say the opposite? Are you changing the koran or quoting a later version of it?
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
In Northern Ireland there have been a large number of terrorist acts committed by Christians of both the Protestant and Catholic branches. These terrorist acts have spilled over into both England (especially London) and Ireland. For example, the Provisional IRA detonated bombs in London as late as 1996, and the Real IRA did the same as late as march 2001.
beyzasmum 2 years ago
And this excuses muslim violence? Islam commands killing sura 9:5, 9:29, 9:111. The Gospel does not.
Men do evil things. In Islam your allah, aka Satan relishes in men's evil.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
On April 17, 1995 Timothy McVeigh reportedly picked up a 20-foot Ryder truck from Elliott's Body Shop in Junction City. The truck was filled with roughly 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of ammonium nitrate, an agricultural fertilizer, and nitromethane, a highly volatile motor-racing fuel-a mixture also known as Kinepak or ANFO (ammonium nitrate/fuel oil).
beyzasmum 2 years ago
NItromethane is 110 octane which makes not as volatile as regular unleaded fuel octane 87 because it needs to withstand great compression before it burns. Please get your facts right.
Please quote the teaching of Jesus from the New Testament which McVeigh might have used to excuse his crime.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
David Robert McMenemy , was charged with 2nd degree arson for driving through what he believed was an abortion clinic, he failed. why wasnt he sent to guantono bay along with all his male family members and friends? thats terrorsm however not all christians are terrorists/fundamentalist.thats ludicrious.
beyzasmum 2 years ago
Is killing abortionists part of Jesus' message?
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
to all the non believers, what more can be said that you talk so harshly of islam? the prrof is there, however you walk blindly and talk without listening. It is peacefull, no matter what you label us, it will never taint our religion.
beyzasmum 2 years ago 2
It's truly sis.
Jazaki Llah Khayraan.
zahratalain 2 years ago
Al-Kafiroon:--- In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful Say: O ye that reject Faith! (1) I worship not that which ye worship, (2) Nor will ye worship that which I worship. (3) And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, (4) Nor will ye worship that which I worship. (5) To you be your Way, and to me mine. (6)
mawnyz1 2 years ago
kellerr13
You, the child of Adam, deny the existence of the Creator Allah swt, Who taught you what you knew not?
You'll know who The Almighty is on the day when your soul is being extracted out of your body- realise that have no control over anything!
too late! you'll have have gone past the point of no return to seek His forgiveness!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
I hope you die of old age after a long life. If you do then at that time when you are dying and the sight fades, and the tunnel vision apears because the brain is not getting enough oxygen, and your life flashes in your mind because the nurons in your brain are firing, when the sounds begin to echo and go faint, you will finally realize it is the true end. that there is no god, and that you have wasted the only life you had, worshiping something non-existant, and followed a false prophet.
kellerr13 2 years ago
Youre describing the experience an alcoholic & of a drug addict- just after the "shot" & the perceived bliss which it's suppose to achieved thereafter, NOT OF A DEATH STUPOUR!
In the death stupour, as related in the Quran is far different,
mawnyz1 2 years ago
I know it's different in the Koran, that is the point. When that day comes for you, it will happen like I said, and not the way it is said in the Koran. Then, you will know Islam is false.
kellerr13 2 years ago 2
Allah swt's word; in the Holy Quran is true & final as it has been for the past almost fifteen hundred years, & InshaAllah it will continue to be just like that till the Judgement Day!
You ask yourself when was the last time you spoke the truthful words- see you cant even recall that, so what you say is as good as you, full of deception & falsehood just like the Satan who has vowed to lead ppl astray to last moment of person's life!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
You go right on believing that. but on that day, and that minute, you will know that all you have been taught about tht Koran, about Allah, about Muhammed bweing the prophet. You will know it is all false, and that you folowed a false prophet.
kellerr13 2 years ago
You wish it was so but it's very far from what youre saying and you also know that!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
Look. The whole concept of some "god" creating everything is silly. all religions read as fiction because that is what they are. The fact that anybody believes this nonsense shows how ignorant and stupid people can be. Just look at how you learned of "Allah" or any other god in any other faith. You heard it from PEOPLE, who only SAID god wrote the Koran, but what if they lied or were crazy? People tell lies every single day. Wake up. None of it is real.
kellerr13 2 years ago
Ask yourself one question:
What benefit would anybody have gained by lying about Allah swt or His Holy Scripture?
The man has his free will either 2 follow the Scripture or 2 reject it, there is no compulsion!
"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods like "money & other worldly possessions" & follow the particular rules & regulations of worship according to their own natures,"
Nothing is going with in the grave or come 2 you aide in hereafter!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
Thats easy to answer. Muhammed would lie about Gabriel comeing to him as a way for Muihammed to gain power. To get followers. He told slaves that if they accepted Allah, they would be equals. the slaves like that so again, Muhammed had many more followers. Ciountless warlords have done similar things throughout history.
If there is no compulsion, then there should be no Jizia tax. or restriction on other religions or permits to build or repair a church.
kellerr13 2 years ago
NO COMPULSION IN RELIGIOUS MATTERS. YOU NANNAS- DON'T LIVE LIKE A LEECH- SPONGING OFF OTHERS!
Everyone has to pay for the ppl employed who provide municipal services.
The employees of this type of services need to be fed, clothed like everyone else, so stop making silly remarks- YOURE DIGGING YOURSELF DEEEPER & DEEPER INTO THE HOLE !
mawnyz1 2 years ago
but only NON-MUSLIMS have to pay it. Therefore it is compulsion.
kellerr13 2 years ago
Yes, for the special services provided for the non-believers!
A rare privileges of living amongst the Muslims & enjoying their protection afforded to the non-Muslims!
What are you complaining about?
mawnyz1 2 years ago
Now your just practicing Taqiyah. Protections from what? those very same muslims? What are these so called special services? I do not need them or want them, and so I will never pay it.
kellerr13 2 years ago
For special services, to
special ppl
mawnyz1 2 years ago
nonsense. it's a way of opressing non-muslims. making their lives so uncomfortable that they convert to islam. This practice is a form of compulsion.
kellerr13 2 years ago
you can be offered a glass of poison but you can be forced to drink it!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
No, but the alternative choice to that poison, is not much better. It's not a resonable choice. I select none of the above.
kellerr13 2 years ago
Sensible!
You elect to become part of the community & pay no tax!
Hurray!
Rejoyce, my boy!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
I do pay a tax. I pay the same tax as ALL the people. All the people are equals, nobody is better than another.
kellerr13 2 years ago
Then quit whining!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
Arwe you really that dense? Jizya is not an EQUAL tax. It's only equal if ALL the people pay the exact SAME tax. Muslim AND Non-muslim. It is therefore a compulsion.
kellerr13 2 years ago
So you admit, Islam is poison.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Rock;
You Missunderstood me about how GOD reacts to your Behavior .Yes you did .God will have Mercey on those who have Mercy on others. but NO he will not LIE for you lies . When you lie ,You are following the SATAN , and THE GOD will punish you with him.And by the same token , Some one Will lie to you and makes you Miserable.
irooni100 2 years ago
why lie? The same reason that commies lied about their programs. Or Nazis lied about what they would do to Jews and others. Or the Mafia lies about its jitza.
Koran 48:29 Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves,
Sounds like compulsion. To a thinking person, at least.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
The abrogated verses are final, in the sense that they not longer pertain. But why can't more verses be abrogated? Sura 3:54 says Allah is the Great Deceiver! Why would you believe the Koran is "written in stone" as English idiom goes?
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
live;
you said,Sura 3:54 says Allah is the Great Deceiver.
My friend; Allah ,reacts same to his people . If you are kind , he will be kind to you , If you are mean to his people , he will be same to you , And YES , if you DECEIVE People , He will Deceive you , If you TRICK , people , He will Trick you .
Do you understand ?
irooni100 2 years ago
So this allah is no better than a man? Loves his friends and hates his enemies? This allah does not rise above the level of a petulant child? Play with me me of I will take my toys home?
No wonder you muslims are so childish.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
make that or I will take my toys...
Is this the way you raise your kids? If they lie to you, you lie to them? If they steal from you, you steal from them?
No wonder muslim families need so much honour killing.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Rock
You talk about killing? How many have you & your ungodly ancestor killed to make place for you to live, & you still continue to kill?
Now go and read your Torah to find out what was the covenant made between the Lord God/Allah swt & prophet Abraham!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
The Torah is corrupted, you know that. We know it was Ishmael who Allah asked Abraham to sacrifice, yet the Torah says it was Jehovah who asked for Isaac!
My ancestors probably did kill a lot of you. But, they did it without the approval of Christ. And that's really the difference. Jesus abhors violence. Mo and Allah,aka Satan relish in it!
So, do I take the Torah at its word? Or is it corrupted? How about the Gospels? Mine say Jesus is the Son of God!
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
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The Lord God/Allah swt in the Genesis made an everlasting covenant with Prophet Abraham. this covenant identifies the descendant of Abraham & must be obeyed. He who disobeys this Command, he has broken the covenant & shall be cut off from his ppl.
Do U know what this covenant was
Are U one of the ppl whove disobeyed this command? if yes then U R not part of his ppl. This covenant, btw was obeyed by Isah ibn Maryam so he was part of the Abraham Tribe.
Were Ur ancestors HEATHEN MURDERERS?
mawnyz1 2 years ago
Which of theSurah verses, would you LIKE to have abrogated & why?
Quran 3:54 And (then unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.
mawnyz1 2 years ago
Your translation is not authorized, The accepted word is deceived not planned.
The entire koran should be abrogated but you avoid the question, not artfully either, but as a scared rabbit. If you are a muslim, you know that allah, aka Satan substituted verses. Sura 2:106 states this.
Stop pretending to know about islam, you are a phoney, The koran is the doctrine of Satan and mo is its criminally insane "prophet".
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Thanks for sharing
May allah bless u an ur family for ur hardworking
Beautiful..
Ameen.
youthmuslim 2 years ago
MashaAllah, great vid!
Thank u for sharing!
Giash4 2 years ago
Jazaka Llah khayr akhi.
you are always supportive! May Allah SWT bless you and guide us all 'Amiiin'
zahratalain 2 years ago
This is nothing more than Taqiyah, a deception. As usual muslims are only telling thieir pro- islam side of things and leaving the rest out, or changing it. by Juris prudence, the later teachings in the koran have the higher priority, and that includes Sura 9, the most violent. - Left our. It also indicated that Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same god. Not true, only similar in nature. Islam is also not a religion, but a 100% way of life not compatible with western culture.
kellerr13 2 years ago
The respected bro kellerr13;
The Holy Quran Surah 9 refers to the battle of Badr; some Ayat refer to the idolators breaking the peace agreement with Muslims. Allah gave permission to fight after being attacked.
zahratalain 2 years ago
bro kellerr13
It is true that both Jesus and Muhammad, as well as all true prophets from Adam, Noah, etc. (peace be upon them all), carried essentially the same message: Islam, that is,
monotheism and submission to the will and guidance of God. However, the details were not identical, but varied to cope with the time and nation addressed.
If you visit the birth place of Jesus (pbuh), and look at an Arabic Christian Bible, you will find Allah is the reference for God.
zahratalain 2 years ago
If you read more carefully you will find that the name of god is Iehova. So there seems to be a conflict there. Let us also talk about Jihad, which the video indicates to be an equal self struggle, as one against enemies. Yet of the 100 some odd hadiths that reference Jihad, only one talk about the self struggle, the reast are all of conquest by the sword.
kellerr13 2 years ago
bro keller13
There's a contradiction about the name Jehovah/Yahweh/YHWH / (It is well-attested by Judeo-Christian scholars that the Bible is a collection of writings done in different periods of history, by different writers. The various
denominations of Christianity are not in agreement on the canon — which is a list of books accepted by the Church as authoritative or divinely inspired — of the Christian Bible. The Ques: Wher's the original Bible? Is Bible God's words???
zahratalain 2 years ago
The holy bible is a compilation of writings made up by crazy men who claimed god talked to them, or through them to others. I can find such crazy men on any street corner today. You and I have no debate on this issue. I agree with you. The the "holy bible" is made up by man.
kellerr13 2 years ago
Muslims believe that Jesus was supported by the Injeel which was revealed by Allah to him. However, the Injeel was exposed to manipulation and alteration. Since we do not know which parts were added to the original text, we believe in the provisions confirmed by the Quran and Sunnah and reject whatever contradicts them.
for those who claimed; May Allah guide them and us to the right path. Poor them they don't know what they are doing!
zahratalain 2 years ago
Muslim scholars described different forms of Jihad
1,Jihad of the soul/heart is an inner struggle of good against evil in one's mind and within oneself for self
improvements, elevation, purification and getting closer to God. This form of jihad is referred to by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)(the greater jihad).
zahratalain 2 years ago
Scholars describe it. Scholars should not have to describe it. It should be crystal clear so that it is practiced by eveyone in that way. If that is truely what was intended. The one true god would have gotten it right in the first place. Also, a note about (PBUH). Do you use the acronym when you say it? Then you should write it out every time as well. "Peace be upon him".
kellerr13 2 years ago
WE muslims follow original sources we go back to the Holy Qur-and Hadeeth, AlhamduLillah.
About a note (PBUH) Thank you very much for the explaination. I give you a credit to it. May Allah Subhana Llah Wa Taala guide you and show you the beauty of Islam. " Amiiin"
Wallah I am not perfect I am still leraning! I appreciate it.
zahratalain 2 years ago
Muslim scholars! Interesting oxy-moron.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
bro keller13
Jihad by the tongue: struggle of good against evil thru talks, dialogues, debates and speeches eg form of dawah (proselytizing), Khutbas (sermons) or lectures.
Jihad by the pen:the struggle for good/evil thru scholarly study of Islam and ijtihad (legal reasoning) which to drive solutions and rulings from the Quran and the teachin of Profet, to b implemented in different and dynamically changing contexts. This form of jihad covered scientific and medical studies n science. cont..
zahratalain 2 years ago
That tounge is often forked. Abrogation of statements and contracts and oaths which are so easily tossed aside because a better one scomes along. That makes such agreements useless to begin with. As for the medical studies, the bloddy attacks Muhammed led, no doubt allowed him to see and study the bodies in much detail. The other science is common sense or so vague it can cover almost anything. I'm not impressed.
kellerr13 2 years ago
Allah says in His Quran: Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things. [Surah al-Baqarah: 256]
zahratalain 2 years ago
That verse is abrogated by 9:5 and 9:29. Surely you know this. Let's not engage takiyya here. Let us be truthful.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
Live;
Continue;
Now ; do you know HOW he does those to you ?
IF You trick some one , HE WILL Appoint another person to DO IT TO YOU .If you Steal for some one , He will send another person to take it from you . If you are old enough , you should have experinced this already.
THE QURAN ,IS A PERFECT BOOK OF ALLAH (SVT)
irooni100 2 years ago
Live;
I Tried to ans. to 9;5,29 . would not post.
irooni100 2 years ago
rock;
About 9;5,29 . My friend All the punishments in the Quran is based on CONDITIONS. If you have a society full of Corrouption , imposed on you by TV , & Magezine and Etc. . You can NOT Apply the laws of GOD . until you clean the cause . Would you Insulate the attic , where you have a leaking roof ?
irooni100 2 years ago
Allah says: So if they dispute with you, say I have submitted my whole self to Allah, and so have those who follow me. And say to the People of the Scripture and to the unlearned: Do you also submit yourselves? If they do, then they are on right guidance. But if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message. And in Allahs sight are all of His servants. [Surah Al `Imran: 20]
zahratalain 2 years ago
This video was not designed to impress the ppl of your calibre- youve many things to keep you occupied- this video is for the ppl who are able to understand & reflect whilst enjoying the unmeasured rewards of Allah swt!
The arrogant, reluctant & conveniently blinded ppl can be guided but rarely forced to walk on or to the righteous path, except with the Grace of Allah swt! The Almighty high above & dwells in the hearts & minds, giving comfort to those who seek His pleasure
mawnyz1 2 years ago
Almighty? Allah is not the almighty. I he is, then let him show is power without the involvement of man. no the only Almighty, is the great pink elephant. The pink elephant blew his trunk and created light. he stomped on the blackness of space with his mighty feet, and created the ground.
kellerr13 2 years ago
When the pink elephant blew from his rear end, then you were brought to this earth to devour everything which belong to others!
thank you for helping understand the purpose of your existence- Termite!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
Jihad by hand: struggle in cause of God using economic power, to finance the struggle for justice and liberation.
Jihad by the sword:(armed fighting in the cause of God) where ppl fight against oppression. This form of jihad is wht referred to by Profet PUH as (the lesser Jihad). The intention of the prophet was not to minimize the importance of jihad by the sword, if needed, but to maximize the importance of inner jihad which is the struggle against lust and evil desires.
zahratalain 2 years ago
The problem with all this is, I do not want to live that way and if you try to force that way of life upon me, or my country, or my city, or my family, then you are the oppressor. I am also not convinced that Muhammed did not simply lie about gabriel coming to him. If Muhammed lied, then all of islam is a lie. And like I said, I find crazy people claiming to be prophets on almost any street corner.
kellerr13 2 years ago
bro keller 13
It is the duty of the Muslims to establish proof of validity of Islam to the people in order for the truth to be distinct from falsehood. Once that is done, whoever wishes to accept Islam may do so and whoever wishes to continue upon their belief may do so. No one is to be threatened or harmed in any way should they chose not to accept Islam.
Unfortunately the hearts of some people are not willing and/or able to understand the beauty of islam but Allah guides whom He wills.
zahratalain 2 years ago
Agreed!
If you were force to do something against your wishes then it would be considered as a form of oppression but if you're just shown the true word of God Allah the Almighty, the choice to accept or reject it will entirely be yours.
NO COMPULSION!
mawnyz1 2 years ago
It's our duty as Muslims to present the correct picture of Islam. All praises are due to Allah Subhana Wa Taalah; The Allmighty. May He guide them and guide all of us to the right path. 'Amiiin.'
Jazaka Llah Khayraan wa baraka Llah fiyk.
zahratalain 2 years ago
Oops.
Satan got the better of me...
mawnyz1 2 years ago
Jazakil Allah Khair for this great video and great information. May Allah bless you and your family.
sosena68 2 years ago
Mashaa Allah. Barak Allahu fiki wa Allah yaftah 'alayki yaa ukhtee!
wa Jazakillahu khayr.
very nice, i liked it alhamdulillah.
May Allah unite us as a great ummah in dunya and akhiraat.
LookAroundAndBelieve 2 years ago
Jazaki LLah khayraan my sister in deen.
So glad to hear from you again :)
Mashaallah just nice people like you make me carry on Subhana Llah! All the praise are due to Subhana Llah Wa Taala.
zahratalain 2 years ago
Very nice video, sister Zahra.
May Allah bless you and your family.
Jazakallahu khair :)
ladynox2000 2 years ago
Jazaki Llah khayran.
May Allah Swt bless you and youe beloved ones too 'Amiiin'
zahratalain 2 years ago
mashaAllah, nice nasheed as well
mohammadzafar 2 years ago
Jazaki'Allah khair.
TheEndGameBoY 2 years ago
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Beautiful video, nice info as well 7ayak ALLAH agi may ALLAH ta3ala give u firdaus for clearing those miss conceptions. For us it's simple but they don't understand i don't blame them. I would hate muslims to if i didn't knew anything about them and only heared what the tv tells about us. Giar inscha ALLAH may god almighty most gracious most merciful lead them to the straight path of islam inscha ALLAH
Soelly 2 years ago 2
Jazaka Llah khayr for watching. Amiiin for the duaa I wish you the same too brother, May Allah SWT guide them and us all to the right path. No one is perfect we are still learning.
zahratalain 2 years ago