jullie denken op deze leeftijd al alles te kunnen, zelfs mijn scheten en boeren klinken beter. En al die betweterige comments van jullie zijn al helemaal op ziek van te worden. Begin met leven.
Sorry sir, at the moment they already sang for Italian people and they has told them that it is more than you can aspect good for not be Italians and furthermore time is telling you too that you are wrong and I am glad your attack will notice others!
Excuse me Mr. Pondman Father: your two sons are very talented, but they would need two basic things: a better teacher of vocal technique and a teacher of Italian diction.
Mr. Pondman, there is no denying your children have exceptional natural voices, but I must ask, why distort the language so severely in the production of these sounds? I am not a native Italian speaker, but even I know the diction borders on nonsensical. Please do not take this as an attack, as many who post tend to do, I merely want to know why you advocate this type of pronunciation. Thank you.
You are 23 and not 13 and your teacher is not your mother, so don't talk about things you can't be sure of, have patience and will you ever be a singer, let that teacher go before it is to late!
what are you people. you've got potential, but no one, and i mean NO ONE, should or can sing Verdi at that age. god damnit, i'm 23 studying opera at a great opera school, and if I even suggested i sing Verdi to my teacher, she would beat me with her cattle prod. you've all got great potential, but please stop singing this stuff before you destroy any chance you have!
since my former comment was marked as spam, I'll try to explain the same with more "neutral" words:
I, as a native speaker of Italian, and as an opera lover, cannot help to feel this performance as a "parody" (and personal opinions and impressions can't be questioned)
If it was a parody, it was super, if not:
The pronunciation -expecially of Walther-is generally uncorrect (that's a fact).
This music is too famous to be performed with such pitch and pronunciation mistakes(
if it's an opera parody, you're better than the Marx brother..
if you meant to sing it seriously, well, I can't teach you to sing, but if you host me in the Nederlands I'll teach you Italian pronuciation for free... but, please, don't torture the most musical language of the world...
Absolutely horrible diction and no power from the tenor; what's more concerning is that in the latest recordings of this he sounds even worse! It actually does sound like a bad Corelli imitation. The baritone makes a terrible Rigoletto; he is not loud enough to sing Verdi. Can't even hear the soprano. The most impressive seems to be the mezzo, which is not a good thing.
Ik ben maar een simpele rock 'n roll artiest, en heb totaal geen verstand van zangtechniek.
Misschien is het briljant, misschien is het verschrikkelijk, maar ik denk dat daar muziek ook helemaal niet om gaat. Naar mijn mening gaat muziek maar om een ding en dat is emotie/passie, en die emotie weten te overbrengen naar je luisteraars.
En als ik dit hoor, dan voel ik echt bijna niks van emotie, het raakt me niet. Volgens mij vergeten jullie tussen alle techniek door waar muziek echt over gaat.
je hebt volledig gelijk, het gaat om emoties. Als je aan de vleugel van blad het rigoletto quartet zingt, kan dat niet optimaal zijn, maar het lijkt ons onwaarschijnlijk dat je niet meer filmpjes hebt bekeken en beluisterd, als je daar ook geen emotie bij voelt, dan houden we het er maar op dat je een simpele rock'n roll artiest bent, die zich dan moet afvragen of hij dat zelf dan wel kan in zijn muziek, wij horen en voelen dat wel bij de echte rock'n rollartiesten.
Ik heb behalve dit alleen jullie optreden van jullie tijdens een aflvering van de wereld draait door gezien. Maar daar vond ik de emotie ook niet heel erg goed overkomen eerlijk gezegd.
Waar ik wel meteen een enorme lading emotie voelde was toen ik bij die aflevering van DWDD (een stukje daarvoor) de vader hoorde zingen voor een paar seconde lang.
Het verschil viel mij toch wel heel erg op, en ook al was het maar een paar seconde, ik dacht meteen van, kijk, hier gaat muziek over.
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I think it is wonderful that a family can get together and sing opera. There all have gorgeous voices and are very handsome. It is true, that you guys need a little training... but the passion and love is there. I would be willing to give voice lessons over the summer.
Thank you sir/ mam for your compliments, but we think we've got a good teacher. How do you think we got this far already at our ages. But in future, who knows you will be satisfied too. Grtz, the family Pondman
Stop thrusting the jaw forward and using false cover....It's gonna ruin your voice. There is absolutely no squillo because you are pushing your larynx down using your tongue. Instead the soft palate should raise, lowering the larynx with it and the vowels should form more in the back using an italian U shape.
Yah, it's like all the bad stuff that corelli somehow managed to get around has singularly been chosen. Weird dude, weird. I mean, if you listen the kid even has a lisp like Corelli did. Wtf?
Corelli studied relentlessly and was a perfectionist, and had much more matured instrument as he started in his late twenties. Caruso, Gigli and any other great you may mention had YEARS of vocalizing before they tackled such repertoire. And sure, conservatories nowadays lack budget to properly train voices, be skeptical of them..sure.. but this is not good either. It simply is not and it is clear to hear, if you don't you have a serious problem and should not dream of teaching others.
These kids definitely have talent, but the voices are abused. Sure, in some cases parts and phrases may be rehearsed from various operas - but it's the sound that matters. The timbres are fabricated, vowels are unnatural, intonations are off, diction is horrible.. and that's all because of the forcing. They are not ready to sing this, at all.
Can I say to Walter- great potential. Now you need to lift your soft palate and think of the words coming from behind your nose, not from your throat. It's GREAT you're trying to keep throat open and jaw relaxed, but it's dragging the palate and diction down with it- so you don't have a bright 'ee' sound- 'figlia' sounds like faylya'. Maybe you've been watching Corelli? It looks like his mouth shape. More lift and you will be fantastic- Great voice! Well done. x
Thank you very much and you heard it well, my great example is Franco Corelli, but if I put the sound forward to help the vocals E and I, the larynx will go upward, and I have to practise, so that I can make those vocals also in my throat and they will sound correctly, because it looks like it is coming from forward. Please follow me and you will hear it will be in future better and better. Thanks again for you encouraging compliments, you almost look like a fan, sincere, Walther
I don't mean send the SOUND forward, but think of the WORDS being formed in a higher place than the sound, not with it- sorry, I can't explain this well without demonstrating! Also, be careful imitating Corelli when you're so young (he's my all-time favorite tenor, too, by the way). Tenors who do this tend to push down the larynx too much and think of space down in the throat. The space you need now is nearer your tonsils! A small adjustment will reap great results.
Hi Jane, Franco Corelli is my favourite, but I don't think he sang that well, so I only use what was right. My father studied for thirty years by listening all the great singers of the past and I believe that everything has to come out of the throat. You have to find the balance, don't push the larynx down and even so upward. I have a lot to learn still, but if I do it right, nobody can hear later that the I's E's are made in the throat because the sound of all the vocals are free. Grtz, Walther
Walther, buddy stop singing that way! you will ruin your vocal cords before you know it. Your voice has great potential, but whoever taught you to sing that way was wrong. Hope to see more vids of you with newer technique!
You have the right to your opinion, but I think you mean well. I cannot still always use the technique right, but please understand that you can't with 17/18 years old, be perfect yet. I am 100% convinced that in the way I study, in a couple of years, it will also be for you ok, you will hear from me and it should be nice if you can say I was wrong, Walther
VERGOGNATEVI CANI LATRANTI!!!!!!
AnnibalePistacchio 2 days ago
@AnnibalePistacchio Stupido persona!!
familypondman 2 days ago
jullie weten niet eens hoe ik ben, ik ben een levensgenieter, zouden jullie ook eens moeten doen.
xmikeeey31x 1 week ago
@xmikeeey31x Genietend van eigen scheten en boeren!!!!!!!
familypondman 1 week ago
jullie denken op deze leeftijd al alles te kunnen, zelfs mijn scheten en boeren klinken beter. En al die betweterige comments van jullie zijn al helemaal op ziek van te worden. Begin met leven.
groeten
xmikeeey31x 1 week ago
@xmikeeey31x En worden zoals jij, no way!!!!!!!!
familypondman 1 week ago
I believe you did a great job!!
You are not professional, but really good.
asiantherapist 3 weeks ago
@asiantherapist Thank you for the compliment because what is a professional nowadays and I am surely not one of those !!!!
familypondman 3 weeks ago
Interesting.
chavianog24 3 months ago
Sorry sir, at the moment they already sang for Italian people and they has told them that it is more than you can aspect good for not be Italians and furthermore time is telling you too that you are wrong and I am glad your attack will notice others!
familypondman 4 months ago
Excuse me Mr. Pondman Father: your two sons are very talented, but they would need two basic things: a better teacher of vocal technique and a teacher of Italian diction.
EGLassie 4 months ago
Dear sir,
It has to do with learning how to sing first and than it is possible to make the difficult language in order and will grow.
Listen to their latest recordings and you will hear the results and even in any language even in Dutch it is nearly perfect.
Thanks for you question, and sincere questions are never an attack!
familypondman 4 months ago
Mr. Pondman, there is no denying your children have exceptional natural voices, but I must ask, why distort the language so severely in the production of these sounds? I am not a native Italian speaker, but even I know the diction borders on nonsensical. Please do not take this as an attack, as many who post tend to do, I merely want to know why you advocate this type of pronunciation. Thank you.
drewski67 4 months ago
arrgh terrible, PSYCHO!!!!
edmanetti 4 months ago
Oh my God! :\
fab3r1968 4 months ago
Don't listen and i' am sorry for you, good luck with your stomach!!!!
familypondman 7 months ago
I'm having stomach and throat ache listening to you ...
Stop singing and go to study singing and Italian!
MisterPapageno 7 months ago
piratzrule,
You are 23 and not 13 and your teacher is not your mother, so don't talk about things you can't be sure of, have patience and will you ever be a singer, let that teacher go before it is to late!
familypondman 9 months ago
what are you people. you've got potential, but no one, and i mean NO ONE, should or can sing Verdi at that age. god damnit, i'm 23 studying opera at a great opera school, and if I even suggested i sing Verdi to my teacher, she would beat me with her cattle prod. you've all got great potential, but please stop singing this stuff before you destroy any chance you have!
piratzrule 9 months ago
Lots of potential there! Proper vowels and pronunciation definitely need work. Do please keep at it!
certifiedwench 1 year ago
ohhh it hurts
lhrlyc 1 year ago 2
greetings from Venice, we are all watching this and love it, we adore the musical ingenius!!!!!!!!
wenarto 1 year ago
I don't mean, you're "bad", but these music is too difficult to be performed by teenagers, might they even be the future Callas and Pavarotti.
if you mean to be become opera singers, learn Italian and study some years more before performing,
I personally wouldn't sing opera better than you now, and not by chance, I do NOT hold concerts yet...
En86 2 years ago 2
Ok,
since my former comment was marked as spam, I'll try to explain the same with more "neutral" words:
I, as a native speaker of Italian, and as an opera lover, cannot help to feel this performance as a "parody" (and personal opinions and impressions can't be questioned)
If it was a parody, it was super, if not:
The pronunciation -expecially of Walther-is generally uncorrect (that's a fact).
This music is too famous to be performed with such pitch and pronunciation mistakes(
En86 2 years ago 5
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oh, dear:
you've made me die for laughing,
if it's an opera parody, you're better than the Marx brother..
if you meant to sing it seriously, well, I can't teach you to sing, but if you host me in the Nederlands I'll teach you Italian pronuciation for free... but, please, don't torture the most musical language of the world...
En86 2 years ago
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En86 2 years ago
sono spettacolari! se ci fosse un circo della lirica loro sarebbero i massimi esponenti!
precches 2 years ago
Absolutely horrible diction and no power from the tenor; what's more concerning is that in the latest recordings of this he sounds even worse! It actually does sound like a bad Corelli imitation. The baritone makes a terrible Rigoletto; he is not loud enough to sing Verdi. Can't even hear the soprano. The most impressive seems to be the mezzo, which is not a good thing.
VinylToVideo 2 years ago 9
valdría la pena que estudiaran canto seriamentre! Verdaderamente tiene talento.
ferdecla 2 years ago
Esto es una familia que ama a la ópera.
ismsancat 2 years ago
No cabe ninguna duda. Si es hobby, no está mal.
Gustavian 2 years ago
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petitspirouet 2 years ago 2
quand ils sont accompagné bien, mais tu le ne sais jamais sûr.
familypondman 2 years ago
i think that you must train your pronunciation, because it´s a little confusing and the words are not clearly. but they are very toned.
pakovozronka 2 years ago 3
Ik ben maar een simpele rock 'n roll artiest, en heb totaal geen verstand van zangtechniek.
Misschien is het briljant, misschien is het verschrikkelijk, maar ik denk dat daar muziek ook helemaal niet om gaat. Naar mijn mening gaat muziek maar om een ding en dat is emotie/passie, en die emotie weten te overbrengen naar je luisteraars.
En als ik dit hoor, dan voel ik echt bijna niks van emotie, het raakt me niet. Volgens mij vergeten jullie tussen alle techniek door waar muziek echt over gaat.
kasperpeulen 2 years ago 5
je hebt volledig gelijk, het gaat om emoties. Als je aan de vleugel van blad het rigoletto quartet zingt, kan dat niet optimaal zijn, maar het lijkt ons onwaarschijnlijk dat je niet meer filmpjes hebt bekeken en beluisterd, als je daar ook geen emotie bij voelt, dan houden we het er maar op dat je een simpele rock'n roll artiest bent, die zich dan moet afvragen of hij dat zelf dan wel kan in zijn muziek, wij horen en voelen dat wel bij de echte rock'n rollartiesten.
familypondman 2 years ago
Ik heb behalve dit alleen jullie optreden van jullie tijdens een aflvering van de wereld draait door gezien. Maar daar vond ik de emotie ook niet heel erg goed overkomen eerlijk gezegd.
Waar ik wel meteen een enorme lading emotie voelde was toen ik bij die aflevering van DWDD (een stukje daarvoor) de vader hoorde zingen voor een paar seconde lang.
Het verschil viel mij toch wel heel erg op, en ook al was het maar een paar seconde, ik dacht meteen van, kijk, hier gaat muziek over.
kasperpeulen 2 years ago
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Alieaz 2 years ago 2
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I think it is wonderful that a family can get together and sing opera. There all have gorgeous voices and are very handsome. It is true, that you guys need a little training... but the passion and love is there. I would be willing to give voice lessons over the summer.
cbrown6660 2 years ago
Thank you sir/ mam for your compliments, but we think we've got a good teacher. How do you think we got this far already at our ages. But in future, who knows you will be satisfied too. Grtz, the family Pondman
familypondman 2 years ago
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Fair enough... Congratulations.
cbrown6660 2 years ago
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Alieaz 2 years ago 2
Stop thrusting the jaw forward and using false cover....It's gonna ruin your voice. There is absolutely no squillo because you are pushing your larynx down using your tongue. Instead the soft palate should raise, lowering the larynx with it and the vowels should form more in the back using an italian U shape.
thehix 2 years ago
that was thouroughly woeful!
harryfish14 2 years ago 2
Stop copying all the negative issues Corelli had.
AfroPoli 2 years ago 3
bravo comparing Corelli to that?????????/
bobrideout 2 years ago
Yah, it's like all the bad stuff that corelli somehow managed to get around has singularly been chosen. Weird dude, weird. I mean, if you listen the kid even has a lisp like Corelli did. Wtf?
donerlich 2 years ago 2
ooh...hmmm
donerlich 2 years ago 4
it is so wanderfull to see and to hear that!
Thanks! I t is lovly! please kipp waking!
georgiasavorian 2 years ago
Corelli studied relentlessly and was a perfectionist, and had much more matured instrument as he started in his late twenties. Caruso, Gigli and any other great you may mention had YEARS of vocalizing before they tackled such repertoire. And sure, conservatories nowadays lack budget to properly train voices, be skeptical of them..sure.. but this is not good either. It simply is not and it is clear to hear, if you don't you have a serious problem and should not dream of teaching others.
Smeralt 2 years ago 4
These kids definitely have talent, but the voices are abused. Sure, in some cases parts and phrases may be rehearsed from various operas - but it's the sound that matters. The timbres are fabricated, vowels are unnatural, intonations are off, diction is horrible.. and that's all because of the forcing. They are not ready to sing this, at all.
Smeralt 2 years ago 17
Wow- what a lovely family!!
Can I say to Walter- great potential. Now you need to lift your soft palate and think of the words coming from behind your nose, not from your throat. It's GREAT you're trying to keep throat open and jaw relaxed, but it's dragging the palate and diction down with it- so you don't have a bright 'ee' sound- 'figlia' sounds like faylya'. Maybe you've been watching Corelli? It looks like his mouth shape. More lift and you will be fantastic- Great voice! Well done. x
jibbyjane 3 years ago
Thank you very much and you heard it well, my great example is Franco Corelli, but if I put the sound forward to help the vocals E and I, the larynx will go upward, and I have to practise, so that I can make those vocals also in my throat and they will sound correctly, because it looks like it is coming from forward. Please follow me and you will hear it will be in future better and better. Thanks again for you encouraging compliments, you almost look like a fan, sincere, Walther
familypondman 3 years ago
I don't mean send the SOUND forward, but think of the WORDS being formed in a higher place than the sound, not with it- sorry, I can't explain this well without demonstrating! Also, be careful imitating Corelli when you're so young (he's my all-time favorite tenor, too, by the way). Tenors who do this tend to push down the larynx too much and think of space down in the throat. The space you need now is nearer your tonsils! A small adjustment will reap great results.
Best wishes,
Jane
jibbyjane 3 years ago
Hi Jane, Franco Corelli is my favourite, but I don't think he sang that well, so I only use what was right. My father studied for thirty years by listening all the great singers of the past and I believe that everything has to come out of the throat. You have to find the balance, don't push the larynx down and even so upward. I have a lot to learn still, but if I do it right, nobody can hear later that the I's E's are made in the throat because the sound of all the vocals are free. Grtz, Walther
familypondman 3 years ago
Walther, buddy stop singing that way! you will ruin your vocal cords before you know it. Your voice has great potential, but whoever taught you to sing that way was wrong. Hope to see more vids of you with newer technique!
mariogalileo 3 years ago 21
You have the right to your opinion, but I think you mean well. I cannot still always use the technique right, but please understand that you can't with 17/18 years old, be perfect yet. I am 100% convinced that in the way I study, in a couple of years, it will also be for you ok, you will hear from me and it should be nice if you can say I was wrong, Walther
familypondman 3 years ago
What about learning the correct text?
Lucas0de0Berlin 3 years ago 5
You have never sounded better!
And I mean that.
coryisawake 3 years ago
I agree with coryisawake
wenarto 3 years ago