The final aim of Zen is to attained realization of one's True Nature within & save others from mental agony by teaching them how to attain their True Nature too.
To attain Enlightenment inorder to help others attain Enlightenment, this is the aim of Zen.
Zen master Dogen Said ' To study Zen is to study yourself. To study yourself is to attain the Enlightenment that you and everything in the Universe is the same ONENESS.'
This One & only singular unmanifested Source Emptiness within, is the Singular Universal ONENESS, is one's True Nature within. GOD is within. Universal Truth is within. Cosmic Love is within. The Universal Source is within.
An empty clear mind is like a mirror. it reflects objectively the situation inside one's body mind & outside one's body mind clearly. You knows your body & mental conditions clearer & better. Also when somebody is thirsty or hungry. you knows clearly too & knows also what is the right respose to make, you give them water & food. you know how to better correctly function your life as a human & be more selfless. you help youself & help others.
' when eat just eat, when walk just walk, when work just work, when sleep just sleep, always keep a simple, empty, clear mind of the NOW moment to moment. Less thoughts, more clear mindfulness & Awareness. live life in the NOW. only just do it, moment to moment. When all thoughts suddenly vanishes & only pure Clear empty Awareness remains, there's no conceptualization, this is don't know mind, the non conceptual mind, the no mental labelling mind, the simple empty clear mind. you sees truth.
As the mind get more empty, it has to be more clear, more mindfulness & awareness.
Thoughout the day, both in sitting & in activities, one keep a empty mind, & clear mind full of mindfulness & clear awareness moment to moment. One live fully in the empty & clear moment of the NOW & Be with What IS moment to moment.
Dissolving busy thinking thoughts into pure simple empty clear Awareness.
Aware of thoughts & not stick to thoughts, not attach to thoughts. let thoughts passes by as if distant cars passes by. If you are aware of & not attached to passing thoughts, moods, & emotions, they have no power to border nor disturb you. Not attach to thoughts and naturally over time, thought will become less on its own. Mind that has less thought is more quiet, peaceful, empty & clear.
One can only glimpse a taste of this unmanifested Source Emptiness within in utter thoughtless silence empty mirror like clear mind. A quiet, empty & clear mind is needed for one to get nearer to discover & realises this unmanifested Source Emptiness within, one's True Nature within.
Zen teaches people how to quiet down this busy thinking mind to have a empty mind which is highly alert, awake & clear with crystal clear awareness all round.
Zen is about how to get intouch with this invisble unmanifested Source Emptiness & return back to it, be one with it and function from that level to help others.
Inorder to get intouch with this invisble unmanifested Source Emptiness, one need to get intouch with this invisble unmanifested Source Emptiness which is already within oneself. The unmanifested Source Emptiness is already within everyone & within the reach or everyone.
Both Form & Emptiness are One & not two because they are the Singular same thing with two aspects, the manifested aspect & the unmanifested aspect.
Everything in the Universe naturally have these two aspects, the manifested aspect ( arises out of causes & conditions & therefore selfless & temporary & illusory ) & the unmanifested aspects ( the invisible Source Emptiness which is empty, selfless, unconditioned, beyond attributes, beyond definitions, beyond thoughts ).
Both Form & Emptiness are One & not two because they are the Singular same thing with two aspects, the manifested aspect & the unmanifested aspect.
Everything in the Universe naturally have these two aspects, the manifested aspect ( arises out of causes & conditions & therefore selfless & temporary & illusory ) & the unmanifested aspects ( the invisible Source Emptiness which is empty, selfless, unconditioned, beyond attributes, beyond definitions, beyond thoughts ).
Both Form & Emptiness are One & not two because they are the Singular same thing with two aspects, the manifested aspect & the unmanifested aspect.
Everything in the Universe naturally have these two aspects, the manifested aspect ( arises out of causes & conditions & therefore selfless & temporary & illusory ) & the unmanifested aspects ( the invisible Source Emptiness which is empty, selfless, unconditioned, beyond attributes, beyond definitions, beyond thoughts ).
In Zen, Emptiness is not nothingness. This Emptiness has two meaning. (1 )Emptiness means the selflessness of all conditioned things. (2) Emptiness here also means the source & the substance of all Universes. Everything in the Universe is the visible manifestation of this unmanifested Source Emptiness. So Zen said ' Form is Emptiness '.
This invisible Unmanifested Source Emptiness is the ground & substance of Everything in the Universe. so Zen said ' Emptiness is Form '. Both is One & not two.
In Zen, Emptiness is not nothingness. This Emptiness has two meaning. (1 )Emptiness means the selflessness of all conditioned things. (2) Emptiness here also means the source & the substance of all Universes. Everything in the Universe is the visible manifestation of this invisible unmanifested Source Emptiness. So Zen said ' Form is Emptiness '.
This invisible Unmanifested Source Emptiness is the ground & substance of Everything in the Universe. so Zen said ' Emptiness is Form '.
This One & Only Universal Truth ( also called the Source of the Universe ) has two aspects to it. The manifested aspect & the unmanifested aspects. It's manifested aspect is this Universe & all lifes in it. it's unmanifested aspects is the invisible & unthinkable Source. This unmanifested invisible & unthinkable Source is also called in Zen as 'Shunyata' or Emptiness.
This One & Only Universal Truth ( the Source of the Universe ) has two aspects to it. The manifested aspect & the unmanisfested aspects. It's manifested aspect is this Universe & all lifes in it. it's unmanisfested aspects is the invisible & unthinkable Source. This unmanisfested invisible & unthinkable Source is also called in Zen as Shunyata or Emptiness.
Zen is Real. Zen is about Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe. The Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe is within everyone
Jesus called this Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe within everyone ' The Kingdom of GOD within'. The Hindus Called it ' Atman'. Lao Tze called it ' Tao'. Zen called it ' The True Nature' .
The Source of the Universe has no name so man can called it by any names. Zen help people to realize the Universal Source within.
Zen is Real. Zen is about Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe. The Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe is within everyone
Jesus called this Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe within everyone ' The Kingdom of GOD within'. The Hindus Called it ' Atman'. Lao Tze called it ' Tao'. Zen called it ' The True Nature' .
The Source of the Universe has no name so man can called it by any names. Zen help people to realize the Universal Source within.
Zen is Real. Zen is about Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe. The Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe is within everyone
Jesus called this Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe within everyone ' The Kingdom of GOD within'. The Hindus Called it ' Atman'. Lao Tze called it ' Tao'. Zen called it ' The True Nature' .
The Source of the Universe has no name so man can called it by any names. Zen help people to realize the Universal Source within.
As important as matter is the emptiness of space which gives matter form. The empty space in a bottle is what is important about the bottle, not the substance of which it is made.
zen need to be revolutionize ! i imagined a harder zen with a lot of mental and physical challenge. Sudents need to trancend emptyness, they need to be kick once again. Modern zen is so weak...
when i read : action without attachment... i am angry ! this is emptyness. Be attached to our action is the human goal. People need to be enough strong to love themself or hate themself.
indulging myself is not the cause, this is the effect of form thinking, strong zen. Form is form that is correct !, that's the Truth. You have to transcend emptyness to understand that. Most of all human spiritual culture is emptyness. Emptyness is hidyng everywhere. When we born, culture teach us emptyness, we grow up emptyness. Instead to live like gods we live like ant this is emptyness. You will spend all your life to understand form.
@FenixFit if you are saying suffering is a problem, you are depreciating form suffering, you are in emptyness... suffering is good, it can makes you stronger, it remember to you your limit...if you are saying no self is better than self you are in emptyness...if you are saying don't know.. you are in emptyness.
Yes, you are right, I was attached to an emptiness when I was writing some of my comments. This is a side effect of studding Zen and I'm aware of it. So you've pointed my weak points. But Zen isn't about being immersed in an emptiness. Zen is just a finger pointing to the moon. Many people, and even many Zen teachers thinks that finger is pointing to en experience of emptiness, but it isn't. You and your philosophy is attacking the finger all the time.
i will tell you what is your problem : you think that you are in form when you are still inside emptyness. Cutting thinking is emptyness, zen enlightnment is emptyness, all zen is emptyness. Why did monks create zen ? because they couldn't carry life like it is, they created zen to protect zem, because it's easier suffering together than alone, you are like a church, you masturbate together and you give to yourself the title of buda !
@FenixFit your mind want no self, emptyness. When you cut the thinking you find emptyness but emptyness is not the life goal, this is Nihilism. Form is the goal. Form is thinking, self, body. Right now you are the form but you don't accept it because you are not strong so you FLEE looking for emptyness because your weak master expkained to you this is freedom. He is true, this is freedom for weak people !
maybe you don't understand but zen students are weak and for this reason they are zen students,don't know is your filosofy and don't know is your will power...sad !
Yes my mind was very complicated when I was writing my comment and I was aware of it. There were many spiritual masters, many of them have different understanding of truth etc., tell me, how can you be so convinced that your understanding is correct?
@FenixFit my understanding is the stronger understanding of what you call zen. This is not an understanding wich is depreciating human being like all the others understanding. My zen is a spartiat zen, it can push you to trancend your own limits : the best personal gift you can hope. In that zen , you don't need to be sure, the seaking of be sure,of correct is the weak zen : the escape, the Platon cavern... only animals lives in cavern...my zen is not correct at all !
"Master Seung Sahn is not explaining the Truth,only projecting his kind of will power..." I think that your concept of will power corresponds to concept of "Buddha Nature". But these two concept are just ideas, they aren't Truth.
Are you really sure that you are awake? Ask yourself truly (don't look through your ideas, you've acquired during your life):
Where will my mind be after 100 years, or when Earth, Solar system disappears? And during the rest of the time?
@FenixFit ideas are part of the Truth, body, suffering etc...is part of the Truth too : WE are the Truth.
Of course i am awake : why are asking this kind of question ? you want to show you are right : will power !
Will power is not a concept, this is what we are trying to do right now.
Second thing is : will power use logical way to feed him, will power use truth, thinking to feed him : to know is a pretext of power. You questions are trap and you didn't see the trap inside them.
@FenixFit Human spirituality is the History of human depreciation. This point is the most important. People like you dind't want me free, they want to tell me : you don't know so please shut up, listen to me !
But i know what you don't know ! between us there is the same diference between the sanyasins and the Gautama.
@FenixFit What is the Truth ? the noise of a stick ? let me laugh ! this is your Truth maybe...what your master made is depreciate thinking but i still repeat to you : we are on earth to experiment thinking and body, you have very complicate mind !
"human being is not here to experiment emptiness but fullness : thinking, self and body. So we are still awake, this is our normal mind, nothing to change but everything to accept" But actually this is also Zen: "form is a form".
so now what are you looking for ? power ! do you really think emptiness is power ? emptiness comes to you and destroy you, in this special state of mind, you are not the master, you are the experiment of an anknowing force. When you are the boss you can dance with attachement, you can be hurt and bored, you are even looking for that. In 40 or 50 years old i will probably be dead and my will power too. I am the beginning of a new human being !
Yes, like you've noticed, emptiness isn't powerful. "When you are the boss you can dance with attachement, you can be hurt and bored" - maybe my explanation wasn't clear, but this is actually also my understanding of freedom - you can do everything, and you aren't attached to idea that everything should always be fine, you can also be attached and it doesn't limit your activity ("form is a form"), so you are the boss, no matter if situation is good or bad.
@FenixFit my understanding ? man, i am the zen psychologist and you are my patient, you can learn of me, i f you anderstand me i will make you free from zen !
@FenixFit man,your master has weak body, i have very strong body. You master need zen, need to be a master i don't need zen because my zen is not separate from life and i don't need to be a master, i am here for few time, i will not spend my life teaching people who don't anderstand nothing. I am very diferent to him like the thing and his shadow.
@FenixFit i am the future of zen, that looks arrogant but this is my truth to you. traditional zen school is dying. A master can't hit anymore a student, that's a shame....
some zen students can anderstand half my understanding, no more. Half. The second part, they are not zen student, they anderstand the second when they run from zen school.
@FenixFit tell me, you are young and i suppose you are not completely rotten like your master...why do you study zen ? you are not so bad, maybe you can teach someting...
@FenixFit what you have to anderstand is : concept of emptiness comes from will power of most of spiritual masters, this is a kind of will power, this is not the Truth, there is no Truth but will power. Emptiness is a pretext of will power, to know is a pretext of will power, thinking is a pretext of will power. Master Seung Sahn is not explaining the Truth,only projecting his kind of will power...
"I want to walk with self confidence inside the flame of Hell" Ask yourself: What will you do if some day you WON'T BE ABLE to do this, because you will be e.g. very ill or have an accident? Will you still have your will power to live the rest of the life?
Freedom doesn't mean that you don't want problem, you desire easy life. If you want something it isn't freedom you are enslaved to this idea, so this is ridiculous. Freedom means that no matter what will happen you will always be a boss, because you aren't attached to: your anxieties, your fears, your problems form past - then your inhibitions disappears - you can do everything and nothing will hurt you, because your ego disappears.
who are you master ? who is YOU ? forget i don't know and the blue montain...don't knowand bluemontain are not you. YOU are the product of zen culture wich comes from fear. Fear about life, about violence, about time. do you want to cut the thinkings? there is nothing to cut, there is nothing to change, nothing pratice. Yes, your zen is not special,even nuts !
I think that you should read his book "Dropping Ashes on the Buddha" It looks like you are in the point: "no form, no emptiness" - you are ATTACHED to emptiness. Your mind isn't free - it is limited. This isn't bad or good. Some Zen students, with good practice, also reach this point. This isn't bad or good. There is no good or bad.
@FenixFit yes it's looks like for you i am in the emptiness but i am not, i don't like emptiness, this is bad, emptyness is boring, i need create and if i can't ..destroy. I don't like people who have not the will power to said things are bad or good and to be attached too. When you are strong you want to be attached ! The fact i don't want to be attached to zen form, zen mind : the famous nothing bad, nothing good.
Don't worry you are attached to not bad not good this is not a problem....
When you are in the emtiness, you can't be bored, because there are no you. And yes, I was also attached to no good, no bad when I was writing my comment. You are right, Zen is just a form of attachment and this is a very big problem. One Zen Master said something like that: If Buddha hadn't been borned we wouldn't have had so much work with getting Zen out of every zen student's head.
@FenixFit emptiness is the goal for zen student. It looks horrible ! i think this is the worst goal of human being, human being is not here to experiment emptiness but fullness : thinking, self and body. So we are still awake, this is our normal mind, nothing to change but everything to accept. definition of life depends your will power, so freedom too. If a day i have an accident, it means i will walk in the flame of hell and i hope to be enough strong.
Yes, attachment to emptiness is a problem in Zen, but actually Zen doesn't stop at the emptiness (like most people from outside think), Zen goes one step further: "form is a form, emptiness i an emptiness", so Zen Master Seung Sahn teach exactly what you have already written - to experience fullness and not stop at the emptiness. But it isn't so visible, so I've suggested that you can read his book.
@FenixFit attachment to zen is a fucking problem, buda project his own vision of man to people like you and you repeat like parrot his weak vision since thousands of years: be quiet, nothing bad nothing good, don't worry,no problem....... you didn't catch the truth : mind is the weapon of will power !
@FenixFit i don't care about to be free. I want to walk with self confidence inside the flame of Hell. When you want to be free, it means you don't want problem, you desire easy life but difficult life is better, it makes you stronger
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Asian 'cute' just doesn't cut it. The Zen communities everywhere, including his, were/are riddled with scandals especially of the sexual kind between teachers and students. The message is very nice, the realities of the practitioners and the communities another matter entirely.
Les dernieres paroles d'un enfant Palestinien : ''maman regarde, il y a des gens qui se font tués sous des bombes et qui ont plus de bras''... Mobilisiez vous, envoyez ce message a 5 autres vidéos en commentaire, en cas échéant, vous serez maudits pendant 6 jours, vous perderez tous vos membres et vous souffrirez comme les palestiniens
it is to be and follow what we know is our true nature and to focus our attention on and away. 30 wacks is because their is no scold or difference.... maybe
Master Seung Sahn obviously had a great sense of humor, just like the Zen sages of ages past. Wisdom, living in the present moment. No mind. Beyond concepts. Katz!
asian cute... very engaging if you put the mind's handbrake on. why did the man have so many students walk out? zen master? who cares, I mean really... who cares just a man full of faults and foibles like the rest of us, that's all.
One other question, does anyone know the meaning of his shouting "Katz"? I didn't know if it is perhaps a Korean word but I can't seem to find anything on it from searching that. Thanks.
KATZ! (sometimes transliterated as "HAL!"): a sudden shout originating deep in the lower abdomen, or "center." This is used as a wordless expression that cuts off all conceptual , discriminative thinking, delivering the listener to a direct experience of nonduality.
Other examples would be hitting a questioner with a stick, or simply lifting up one finger.
I am curious as to why practitioners of Seon and also Thien it seems as well often used the Japanese "Zen" instead. For instance when I was in Providence the name of a center was even Providence Zen Center and I wondered why not Providence Seon Center. I realize that these are just two different noises uttered by us but I just wondered if this is maybe due to more people being familiar with the term Zen and even if so why people wouldn't use Seon or want to have it be a commonly known term.
What is, is and everything else is an interpretation, a story which arises out of language. There is no "is" and there is no are - these are only opinions. The sound of one hand clapping is the sound of one hand clapping - that is all.
ultima: Seung Sahn says correct practice is not dependent on a religion. What is correct is simply keeping a mind where the thinking process drops away. When thoughts return, just let them go. By doing this consistently, our true Universal Mind comes forward little by little. During the day, practice the same process of not participating in the mind's usual mad urge to fill empty space with useless ramblings. I am an old student of Seung Sahn. Good luck :)
His Dhamma talk makes me laugh. But I think that he is trying his best to convey the essence of Buddhism to people in general. While his English is very funny, the audience seems to get the important meaning of his talks which I think is his intention. Good talk.
Kwan Seum Bosal to Dae Soen Sa Nim! Buddhism is not a dead end, it's an option - for me and all those I know. Dantown, if it's a dead end for you, that is ok. I hope you don't have to encounter too many dead ends in this lifetime. Kwan Seum Bosal to you, too!
What have they surpassed? I wasn't aware that they were competeing? No need to apologize for your opinion. In what way is Buddhism a dead end? I was always under the assumption that Buddhism is a way of life, discipline. It is a method of looking into your own direct experience in order to see the true nature of reality, of self, of relationship. In what way is this a dead end? Questioning, for perhaps you are aware of something that I am not. Blessings to you.
Grace, I may not have the time to say, "i love you". So, I say-I love you-right now.Seung Sahn says: 'only keep don't know mind". Therefore,Grace, I love you, for all time.
love the video really good
shellybirdy 1 week ago
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"Don't know" mind seems like Upekkha in theravada buddhism.
It's interesting...
sarudaruma 4 months ago
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sarudaruma 4 months ago
August Turak talks of the red hot cannon of zen. Is his karma missing?
bezelbub2010 4 months ago
@banzaiiish it means buddists whom specialise in meditation pretty much
riskingeuphoria 4 months ago
7:13 - the sound of Joshu's dog
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form is form , emptiness is emptiness
robavan 9 months ago
The final aim of Zen is to attained realization of one's True Nature within & save others from mental agony by teaching them how to attain their True Nature too.
To attain Enlightenment inorder to help others attain Enlightenment, this is the aim of Zen.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
Zen master Dogen Said ' To study Zen is to study yourself. To study yourself is to attain the Enlightenment that you and everything in the Universe is the same ONENESS.'
This One & only singular unmanifested Source Emptiness within, is the Singular Universal ONENESS, is one's True Nature within. GOD is within. Universal Truth is within. Cosmic Love is within. The Universal Source is within.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
An empty clear mind is like a mirror. it reflects objectively the situation inside one's body mind & outside one's body mind clearly. You knows your body & mental conditions clearer & better. Also when somebody is thirsty or hungry. you knows clearly too & knows also what is the right respose to make, you give them water & food. you know how to better correctly function your life as a human & be more selfless. you help youself & help others.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
' when eat just eat, when walk just walk, when work just work, when sleep just sleep, always keep a simple, empty, clear mind of the NOW moment to moment. Less thoughts, more clear mindfulness & Awareness. live life in the NOW. only just do it, moment to moment. When all thoughts suddenly vanishes & only pure Clear empty Awareness remains, there's no conceptualization, this is don't know mind, the non conceptual mind, the no mental labelling mind, the simple empty clear mind. you sees truth.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
As the mind get more empty, it has to be more clear, more mindfulness & awareness.
Thoughout the day, both in sitting & in activities, one keep a empty mind, & clear mind full of mindfulness & clear awareness moment to moment. One live fully in the empty & clear moment of the NOW & Be with What IS moment to moment.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
Dissolving busy thinking thoughts into pure simple empty clear Awareness.
Aware of thoughts & not stick to thoughts, not attach to thoughts. let thoughts passes by as if distant cars passes by. If you are aware of & not attached to passing thoughts, moods, & emotions, they have no power to border nor disturb you. Not attach to thoughts and naturally over time, thought will become less on its own. Mind that has less thought is more quiet, peaceful, empty & clear.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
One can only glimpse a taste of this unmanifested Source Emptiness within in utter thoughtless silence empty mirror like clear mind. A quiet, empty & clear mind is needed for one to get nearer to discover & realises this unmanifested Source Emptiness within, one's True Nature within.
Zen teaches people how to quiet down this busy thinking mind to have a empty mind which is highly alert, awake & clear with crystal clear awareness all round.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
Zen is about how to get intouch with this invisble unmanifested Source Emptiness & return back to it, be one with it and function from that level to help others.
Inorder to get intouch with this invisble unmanifested Source Emptiness, one need to get intouch with this invisble unmanifested Source Emptiness which is already within oneself. The unmanifested Source Emptiness is already within everyone & within the reach or everyone.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
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Both Form & Emptiness are One & not two because they are the Singular same thing with two aspects, the manifested aspect & the unmanifested aspect.
Everything in the Universe naturally have these two aspects, the manifested aspect ( arises out of causes & conditions & therefore selfless & temporary & illusory ) & the unmanifested aspects ( the invisible Source Emptiness which is empty, selfless, unconditioned, beyond attributes, beyond definitions, beyond thoughts ).
smilesmileable 1 year ago
Both Form & Emptiness are One & not two because they are the Singular same thing with two aspects, the manifested aspect & the unmanifested aspect.
Everything in the Universe naturally have these two aspects, the manifested aspect ( arises out of causes & conditions & therefore selfless & temporary & illusory ) & the unmanifested aspects ( the invisible Source Emptiness which is empty, selfless, unconditioned, beyond attributes, beyond definitions, beyond thoughts ).
smilesmileable 1 year ago
Both Form & Emptiness are One & not two because they are the Singular same thing with two aspects, the manifested aspect & the unmanifested aspect.
Everything in the Universe naturally have these two aspects, the manifested aspect ( arises out of causes & conditions & therefore selfless & temporary & illusory ) & the unmanifested aspects ( the invisible Source Emptiness which is empty, selfless, unconditioned, beyond attributes, beyond definitions, beyond thoughts ).
smilesmileable 1 year ago
In Zen, Emptiness is not nothingness. This Emptiness has two meaning. (1 )Emptiness means the selflessness of all conditioned things. (2) Emptiness here also means the source & the substance of all Universes. Everything in the Universe is the visible manifestation of this unmanifested Source Emptiness. So Zen said ' Form is Emptiness '.
This invisible Unmanifested Source Emptiness is the ground & substance of Everything in the Universe. so Zen said ' Emptiness is Form '. Both is One & not two.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
In Zen, Emptiness is not nothingness. This Emptiness has two meaning. (1 )Emptiness means the selflessness of all conditioned things. (2) Emptiness here also means the source & the substance of all Universes. Everything in the Universe is the visible manifestation of this invisible unmanifested Source Emptiness. So Zen said ' Form is Emptiness '.
This invisible Unmanifested Source Emptiness is the ground & substance of Everything in the Universe. so Zen said ' Emptiness is Form '.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
This One & Only Universal Truth ( also called the Source of the Universe ) has two aspects to it. The manifested aspect & the unmanifested aspects. It's manifested aspect is this Universe & all lifes in it. it's unmanifested aspects is the invisible & unthinkable Source. This unmanifested invisible & unthinkable Source is also called in Zen as 'Shunyata' or Emptiness.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
This One & Only Universal Truth ( the Source of the Universe ) has two aspects to it. The manifested aspect & the unmanisfested aspects. It's manifested aspect is this Universe & all lifes in it. it's unmanisfested aspects is the invisible & unthinkable Source. This unmanisfested invisible & unthinkable Source is also called in Zen as Shunyata or Emptiness.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
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Zen is Real. Zen is about Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe. The Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe is within everyone
Jesus called this Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe within everyone ' The Kingdom of GOD within'. The Hindus Called it ' Atman'. Lao Tze called it ' Tao'. Zen called it ' The True Nature' .
The Source of the Universe has no name so man can called it by any names. Zen help people to realize the Universal Source within.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
Zen is Real. Zen is about Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe. The Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe is within everyone
Jesus called this Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe within everyone ' The Kingdom of GOD within'. The Hindus Called it ' Atman'. Lao Tze called it ' Tao'. Zen called it ' The True Nature' .
The Source of the Universe has no name so man can called it by any names. Zen help people to realize the Universal Source within.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
Zen is Real. Zen is about Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe. The Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe is within everyone
Jesus called this Universal Truth & the Source of the Universe within everyone ' The Kingdom of GOD within'. The Hindus Called it ' Atman'. Lao Tze called it ' Tao'. Zen called it ' The True Nature' .
The Source of the Universe has no name so man can called it by any names. Zen help people to realize the Universal Source within.
smilesmileable 1 year ago
ZEN IS ONLY SHIT , HAVE A REAL LIFE GAYS !
TheZarathoustrash 1 year ago
@TheZarathoustrash Chatter in the skull
ClarkesonTheMarksman 1 year ago
색불이공 공불이색
色不異空 空不異色
jaradori 1 year ago
색즉시공 공즉시색
色卽是空 空卽是色
jaradori 1 year ago
As important as matter is the emptiness of space which gives matter form. The empty space in a bottle is what is important about the bottle, not the substance of which it is made.
sybredeth 1 year ago
@sybredeth wrong, the important is the water in the bottle...
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
zen need to be revolutionize ! i imagined a harder zen with a lot of mental and physical challenge. Sudents need to trancend emptyness, they need to be kick once again. Modern zen is so weak...
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@douglasmacjames I DONT THINK YOU GET IT IT AT ALL. EITHER WHAT THEY MEAN BY EMPTINESS OR ,DHARMA, OR BUDDHA NATURE,AWARENESS
vajraloka1 1 year ago
@vajraloka1 you think that's good, explain is better...
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
when i read : action without attachment... i am angry ! this is emptyness. Be attached to our action is the human goal. People need to be enough strong to love themself or hate themself.
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
indulging myself is not the cause, this is the effect of form thinking, strong zen. Form is form that is correct !, that's the Truth. You have to transcend emptyness to understand that. Most of all human spiritual culture is emptyness. Emptyness is hidyng everywhere. When we born, culture teach us emptyness, we grow up emptyness. Instead to live like gods we live like ant this is emptyness. You will spend all your life to understand form.
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
You are indulging yourself by saying form is a form. Tell me one thing, doesn't it make you feel better?
FenixFit 1 year ago
Yes, good point.
FenixFit 1 year ago
form is form, form is will power, form is life, human condition, know, thinking, suffering, insist, strong, self.
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
But we are also masturbating ourselves when we say this. The point is to see it.
FenixFit 1 year ago
@FenixFit no! when you are saying that you are depreciating form thinking, you are in emptyness...
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@FenixFit if you are saying suffering is a problem, you are depreciating form suffering, you are in emptyness... suffering is good, it can makes you stronger, it remember to you your limit...if you are saying no self is better than self you are in emptyness...if you are saying don't know.. you are in emptyness.
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@FenixFit what i am saying is form thinking, strong thinking, it make strong life. But there is a weak thinking, a emptyness thinking...
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
maybe you also insist? :)
FenixFit 1 year ago
Yeah, good answer, I insist
FenixFit 1 year ago
You are right that people who are immersed in an emptiness are weak and you've already explained this.
But maybe you are very afraid of being weak? So maybe because of this you've subconsciously created your own philosophy to protect you?
And maybe you aren't even aware of it? Why have you got such a strong need to talk about being strong, not weak?
FenixFit 1 year ago
you insist...
no! form is form, strong comes from strong, strong is looking for strong
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
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FenixFit 1 year ago
oh man, i could write the true story of zen !
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@douglasmacjames
Yes, you are right, I was attached to an emptiness when I was writing some of my comments. This is a side effect of studding Zen and I'm aware of it. So you've pointed my weak points. But Zen isn't about being immersed in an emptiness. Zen is just a finger pointing to the moon. Many people, and even many Zen teachers thinks that finger is pointing to en experience of emptiness, but it isn't. You and your philosophy is attacking the finger all the time.
FenixFit 1 year ago
i will tell you what is your problem : you think that you are in form when you are still inside emptyness. Cutting thinking is emptyness, zen enlightnment is emptyness, all zen is emptyness. Why did monks create zen ? because they couldn't carry life like it is, they created zen to protect zem, because it's easier suffering together than alone, you are like a church, you masturbate together and you give to yourself the title of buda !
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@douglasmacjames I see you've mastered the emptiness of spelling.
teknotoast 1 year ago
It looks like you are a slave of your ideas, you don't live in a reality and your dream is called "will power".
FenixFit 1 year ago
@FenixFit ahahahah!! zen students have all same mind ! you are in big trouble, why are you fighting against thinking ? even buda didn't teach it !
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@FenixFit your mind want no self, emptyness. When you cut the thinking you find emptyness but emptyness is not the life goal, this is Nihilism. Form is the goal. Form is thinking, self, body. Right now you are the form but you don't accept it because you are not strong so you FLEE looking for emptyness because your weak master expkained to you this is freedom. He is true, this is freedom for weak people !
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@FenixFit what is weak man ? he doesn't brave suffering, like your master he leaves in the mountain,in zen mountains...
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
maybe you don't understand but zen students are weak and for this reason they are zen students,don't know is your filosofy and don't know is your will power...sad !
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
are you enough strong to no need to be sure to be awake ?
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
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PeanutParty 1 year ago
Yes my mind was very complicated when I was writing my comment and I was aware of it. There were many spiritual masters, many of them have different understanding of truth etc., tell me, how can you be so convinced that your understanding is correct?
FenixFit 1 year ago
@FenixFit my understanding is the stronger understanding of what you call zen. This is not an understanding wich is depreciating human being like all the others understanding. My zen is a spartiat zen, it can push you to trancend your own limits : the best personal gift you can hope. In that zen , you don't need to be sure, the seaking of be sure,of correct is the weak zen : the escape, the Platon cavern... only animals lives in cavern...my zen is not correct at all !
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
yes, buda nature is will power because will power is the nature of all human being and all life.
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
"Master Seung Sahn is not explaining the Truth,only projecting his kind of will power..." I think that your concept of will power corresponds to concept of "Buddha Nature". But these two concept are just ideas, they aren't Truth.
Are you really sure that you are awake? Ask yourself truly (don't look through your ideas, you've acquired during your life):
Where will my mind be after 100 years, or when Earth, Solar system disappears? And during the rest of the time?
FenixFit 1 year ago
@FenixFit ideas are part of the Truth, body, suffering etc...is part of the Truth too : WE are the Truth.
Of course i am awake : why are asking this kind of question ? you want to show you are right : will power !
Will power is not a concept, this is what we are trying to do right now.
Second thing is : will power use logical way to feed him, will power use truth, thinking to feed him : to know is a pretext of power. You questions are trap and you didn't see the trap inside them.
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@FenixFit Human spirituality is the History of human depreciation. This point is the most important. People like you dind't want me free, they want to tell me : you don't know so please shut up, listen to me !
But i know what you don't know ! between us there is the same diference between the sanyasins and the Gautama.
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@FenixFit What is the Truth ? the noise of a stick ? let me laugh ! this is your Truth maybe...what your master made is depreciate thinking but i still repeat to you : we are on earth to experiment thinking and body, you have very complicate mind !
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
"human being is not here to experiment emptiness but fullness : thinking, self and body. So we are still awake, this is our normal mind, nothing to change but everything to accept" But actually this is also Zen: "form is a form".
FenixFit 1 year ago
so now what are you looking for ? power ! do you really think emptiness is power ? emptiness comes to you and destroy you, in this special state of mind, you are not the master, you are the experiment of an anknowing force. When you are the boss you can dance with attachement, you can be hurt and bored, you are even looking for that. In 40 or 50 years old i will probably be dead and my will power too. I am the beginning of a new human being !
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@douglasmacjames
Yes, like you've noticed, emptiness isn't powerful. "When you are the boss you can dance with attachement, you can be hurt and bored" - maybe my explanation wasn't clear, but this is actually also my understanding of freedom - you can do everything, and you aren't attached to idea that everything should always be fine, you can also be attached and it doesn't limit your activity ("form is a form"), so you are the boss, no matter if situation is good or bad.
FenixFit 1 year ago
@douglasmacjames
I think that your understanding is very good, but some Zen students also acquire this type of understanding, so don't be to skeptical.
FenixFit 1 year ago
@FenixFit my understanding ? man, i am the zen psychologist and you are my patient, you can learn of me, i f you anderstand me i will make you free from zen !
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@FenixFit man,your master has weak body, i have very strong body. You master need zen, need to be a master i don't need zen because my zen is not separate from life and i don't need to be a master, i am here for few time, i will not spend my life teaching people who don't anderstand nothing. I am very diferent to him like the thing and his shadow.
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@FenixFit i am the future of zen, that looks arrogant but this is my truth to you. traditional zen school is dying. A master can't hit anymore a student, that's a shame....
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
some zen students can anderstand half my understanding, no more. Half. The second part, they are not zen student, they anderstand the second when they run from zen school.
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@douglasmacjames
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FenixFit 1 year ago
@FenixFit tell me, you are young and i suppose you are not completely rotten like your master...why do you study zen ? you are not so bad, maybe you can teach someting...
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@FenixFit tell me too : what is the diference between your master and you ?
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@FenixFit maybe this is your problem, you are not sure to be awake...
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
Where your "mind - weapon of will power", will be after 100 years? And event after 100 thousands years?
FenixFit 1 year ago
@FenixFit what you have to anderstand is : concept of emptiness comes from will power of most of spiritual masters, this is a kind of will power, this is not the Truth, there is no Truth but will power. Emptiness is a pretext of will power, to know is a pretext of will power, thinking is a pretext of will power. Master Seung Sahn is not explaining the Truth,only projecting his kind of will power...
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
"I want to walk with self confidence inside the flame of Hell" Ask yourself: What will you do if some day you WON'T BE ABLE to do this, because you will be e.g. very ill or have an accident? Will you still have your will power to live the rest of the life?
FenixFit 1 year ago
Freedom doesn't mean that you don't want problem, you desire easy life. If you want something it isn't freedom you are enslaved to this idea, so this is ridiculous. Freedom means that no matter what will happen you will always be a boss, because you aren't attached to: your anxieties, your fears, your problems form past - then your inhibitions disappears - you can do everything and nothing will hurt you, because your ego disappears.
FenixFit 1 year ago
who are you master ? who is YOU ? forget i don't know and the blue montain...don't knowand bluemontain are not you. YOU are the product of zen culture wich comes from fear. Fear about life, about violence, about time. do you want to cut the thinkings? there is nothing to cut, there is nothing to change, nothing pratice. Yes, your zen is not special,even nuts !
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@douglasmacjames
I think that you should read his book "Dropping Ashes on the Buddha" It looks like you are in the point: "no form, no emptiness" - you are ATTACHED to emptiness. Your mind isn't free - it is limited. This isn't bad or good. Some Zen students, with good practice, also reach this point. This isn't bad or good. There is no good or bad.
FenixFit 1 year ago
@FenixFit yes it's looks like for you i am in the emptiness but i am not, i don't like emptiness, this is bad, emptyness is boring, i need create and if i can't ..destroy. I don't like people who have not the will power to said things are bad or good and to be attached too. When you are strong you want to be attached ! The fact i don't want to be attached to zen form, zen mind : the famous nothing bad, nothing good.
Don't worry you are attached to not bad not good this is not a problem....
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@douglasmacjames
When you are in the emtiness, you can't be bored, because there are no you. And yes, I was also attached to no good, no bad when I was writing my comment. You are right, Zen is just a form of attachment and this is a very big problem. One Zen Master said something like that: If Buddha hadn't been borned we wouldn't have had so much work with getting Zen out of every zen student's head.
FenixFit 1 year ago
@FenixFit emptiness is the goal for zen student. It looks horrible ! i think this is the worst goal of human being, human being is not here to experiment emptiness but fullness : thinking, self and body. So we are still awake, this is our normal mind, nothing to change but everything to accept. definition of life depends your will power, so freedom too. If a day i have an accident, it means i will walk in the flame of hell and i hope to be enough strong.
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@douglasmacjames
Yes, attachment to emptiness is a problem in Zen, but actually Zen doesn't stop at the emptiness (like most people from outside think), Zen goes one step further: "form is a form, emptiness i an emptiness", so Zen Master Seung Sahn teach exactly what you have already written - to experience fullness and not stop at the emptiness. But it isn't so visible, so I've suggested that you can read his book.
FenixFit 1 year ago
@FenixFit attachment to zen is a fucking problem, buda project his own vision of man to people like you and you repeat like parrot his weak vision since thousands of years: be quiet, nothing bad nothing good, don't worry,no problem....... you didn't catch the truth : mind is the weapon of will power !
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@FenixFit i don't care about to be free. I want to walk with self confidence inside the flame of Hell. When you want to be free, it means you don't want problem, you desire easy life but difficult life is better, it makes you stronger
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
@FenixFit now tell me to what point of the seug sahn book i am ?
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
He is just like his books. My favorite teacher.
djrinpoche 1 year ago
"Put it all down, don't hold anything, don't make anything!
"Only go straight, Don’t Know!
"Try, try, try - non-stop - for ten thousand years.
"Get enlightenment, and save ALL BEINGS from suffering." -- SS
Thank you, great Zen Master. A deep bow.
Be still . . .
let go . . .
enjoy the dance . . .
(and please help all beings -- your true self)
goog2k 1 year ago
only shit ! each one must be his own master !
ffff734 1 year ago
@ffff734 buddhist have very complicate mind !
douglasmacjames 1 year ago
How precious.
kasuskasus 1 year ago
Amazing!
XOXO
The Clarences
THECLARENCES 1 year ago
He wishes not to see you in 500 years. He wishes not. He has no need.
rog27s 2 years ago
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Ha ha ha ha
what an idiot
LoL
don't follow this loser
DrSanchez666 2 years ago
@DrSanchez666 .
phenix00000 1 year ago
Who are you?
What am I?
I just don't know.
이뭣고. _()_
숭산큰스님께 귀의합니다.
PeanutParty 2 years ago
동영상 감사합니다.^^
LoveJay2pm 2 years ago
So Many Years ago Sa Nim,we opened Tahl mah Sah. I was very bad but not completely Bad,Now I am Completely Bad..
The cat has caught it's tail
where will it go with It?
YOu already Now,
with deep revernce
Soenshim
Fitzangus 2 years ago
Thanks Master Seung Sahn, i hope see you to in 500 years. I love you Roshi!!!
stevengargoyle 2 years ago
Thank's Seung Sahn... I hope see you in 500 years!!!
stevengargoyle 2 years ago
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Asian 'cute' just doesn't cut it. The Zen communities everywhere, including his, were/are riddled with scandals especially of the sexual kind between teachers and students. The message is very nice, the realities of the practitioners and the communities another matter entirely.
catandpiddle 2 years ago
that was awesome when he said bullshit. made him seem so much more down to earth
shlempnar 2 years ago 2
Les dernieres paroles d'un enfant Palestinien : ''maman regarde, il y a des gens qui se font tués sous des bombes et qui ont plus de bras''... Mobilisiez vous, envoyez ce message a 5 autres vidéos en commentaire, en cas échéant, vous serez maudits pendant 6 jours, vous perderez tous vos membres et vous souffrirez comme les palestiniens
stenmkII1943 2 years ago
it is to be and follow what we know is our true nature and to focus our attention on and away. 30 wacks is because their is no scold or difference.... maybe
mowntain 2 years ago
id like to hit him with 30 wacks with a stick!!!
nukecat 2 years ago
@nukecat
Why?
smudge6699 2 years ago
i was just being funny thats all
nukecat 2 years ago
That hurts, did i really need all those hits
LOL
Thank you, Master
MaitreyaZion 2 years ago
Beautiful simplicity in this monk's words.
Thanks for posting.
booksteve 2 years ago
Thankyou for this.
sudnaidu 2 years ago
Master Seung Sahn obviously had a great sense of humor, just like the Zen sages of ages past. Wisdom, living in the present moment. No mind. Beyond concepts. Katz!
jonestimothy15 2 years ago 2
asian cute... very engaging if you put the mind's handbrake on. why did the man have so many students walk out? zen master? who cares, I mean really... who cares just a man full of faults and foibles like the rest of us, that's all.
catandpiddle 2 years ago
Touching a hot stove.
galaxyhigh73 3 years ago
I love the mountains too.. hmm mountains
videocookies 3 years ago
One other question, does anyone know the meaning of his shouting "Katz"? I didn't know if it is perhaps a Korean word but I can't seem to find anything on it from searching that. Thanks.
cwalwanis 3 years ago
It's japanese (maybe korean too), written "katsu", and means "to shout at".
Google "katsu" and you will be more successful.
= )
Schnork71 3 years ago
KATZ! (sometimes transliterated as "HAL!"): a sudden shout originating deep in the lower abdomen, or "center." This is used as a wordless expression that cuts off all conceptual , discriminative thinking, delivering the listener to a direct experience of nonduality.
Other examples would be hitting a questioner with a stick, or simply lifting up one finger.
spaz01112 3 years ago
I am curious as to why practitioners of Seon and also Thien it seems as well often used the Japanese "Zen" instead. For instance when I was in Providence the name of a center was even Providence Zen Center and I wondered why not Providence Seon Center. I realize that these are just two different noises uttered by us but I just wondered if this is maybe due to more people being familiar with the term Zen and even if so why people wouldn't use Seon or want to have it be a commonly known term.
cwalwanis 3 years ago
Zen is just more familiar to English speakers and so it's become the default.
prkjs08 3 years ago
thank you for this video
kangdanlin 3 years ago
ZMSS, A great teacher who continues through the actions of his students, hapchang
jutuber 3 years ago
don't make special...put it all down...only go straight!!!
can you do this?
It seems so simple, doesn't it!
Thank You
ChaKoKanYon 3 years ago 2
What is, is and everything else is an interpretation, a story which arises out of language. There is no "is" and there is no are - these are only opinions. The sound of one hand clapping is the sound of one hand clapping - that is all.
thismagician 3 years ago
form is emptiness emptiness is form
no form no emptiness
form is form emptiness is emptiness
thank you for this kind video ^^
usccharles 3 years ago
thank you...
BirthofAPrince 3 years ago
Benevergreen, thank you for uploading this video.
aku7688 3 years ago
'Never tink about myself' Is that so? Then why so many scandals, disgruntled students, at your centers etc.?
Never tink about zee's tings, huh? Asian cute, don't buy it.
catandpiddle 3 years ago
unfortunatelly u got the point
jimanHK 3 years ago
Buddhism, Toaism, Christianity, etc. Not good, not bad.
shokan3 3 years ago 2
=) what's not good, what's not bad
UltimaLucifer 3 years ago
ultima: Seung Sahn says correct practice is not dependent on a religion. What is correct is simply keeping a mind where the thinking process drops away. When thoughts return, just let them go. By doing this consistently, our true Universal Mind comes forward little by little. During the day, practice the same process of not participating in the mind's usual mad urge to fill empty space with useless ramblings. I am an old student of Seung Sahn. Good luck :)
shokan3 3 years ago
what's an empty space?
UltimaLucifer 3 years ago
Thank you for your teaching.Even tough you teached nothing.
ss7795e 3 years ago
awesome
shunyata2 3 years ago
His Dhamma talk makes me laugh. But I think that he is trying his best to convey the essence of Buddhism to people in general. While his English is very funny, the audience seems to get the important meaning of his talks which I think is his intention. Good talk.
appleandgrapes 3 years ago
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH!!!
mexicancarry 3 years ago
Thank you
gobounty 4 years ago
Kwan Seum Bosal to Dae Soen Sa Nim! Buddhism is not a dead end, it's an option - for me and all those I know. Dantown, if it's a dead end for you, that is ok. I hope you don't have to encounter too many dead ends in this lifetime. Kwan Seum Bosal to you, too!
Thank you for sharing this video!
AntieBadoooo 4 years ago
thank you for sahring!kwan seum bosal for all beings
jimanHK 4 years ago
Judaism and Catholicism have far surpassed Asian religion.Sorry.Buddhism is a dead end.
dantown1 4 years ago
What have they surpassed? I wasn't aware that they were competeing? No need to apologize for your opinion. In what way is Buddhism a dead end? I was always under the assumption that Buddhism is a way of life, discipline. It is a method of looking into your own direct experience in order to see the true nature of reality, of self, of relationship. In what way is this a dead end? Questioning, for perhaps you are aware of something that I am not. Blessings to you.
AwakeningGrace 4 years ago
Youtube is a fraud which shuts out my comments.
dantown1 4 years ago
ah yes .... I relate! ^^
AwakeningGrace 4 years ago
Grace, I may not have the time to say, "i love you". So, I say-I love you-right now.Seung Sahn says: 'only keep don't know mind". Therefore,Grace, I love you, for all time.
dantown1 4 years ago
dantown i love you!
AwakeningGrace 4 years ago
Cool!
dantown1 4 years ago
lol..good to see that there is still humor in the world
Schnork71 4 years ago
All religions are a dead end.
The only religion that exists is that of the individual and the consciousness he possesses.
Amirmourad 3 years ago