Marciano fought old, shot and light guys exclusively. There are some who say Marciano fought the best that were available at the time and THAT may be true BUT that doesn't mean he would beat Ali as this racist video tries to show. We that live in the real world know that Ali stops Marciano on cuts bruises and abrasions. The undeluded know it's true. A lot of racists out there.
Ali would have been too fast for the cumbersome Marciano, just take a look at the Ali Foreman fight -and Foreman could punch like no one in those days! And look at the outcome. So for all those Marciano fans who think he could have beaten Ali I say ...DREAM ON! Ali is the GREATEST! We all love you Ali.
@starzulu The only thing clay would do "too fast" against Marciano would be getting knocked out. So for you deluded clay fans who think he could have beaten Marciano I say ...DREAM ON MOTHERFUCKER! Marciano is the GREATEST and his record proves it! Clay was a 5 time LOSER. BWHAHAHAHAHA!
@swaggeringrebel ...did you know that obcessive compulsive people often see things in black and white. They must have a girl like you on some drug or another.
@swaggeringrebel Lowry was robbed. It was a 1 judge that awarded Marciano decision.Marciano said himself he couldn't ko the ex middle if he fought him 100 times. Ted 58 wins 48 losses when he faced the Rock. They went to decision twice.Ted weighed in a t 177 and was only 5 10h. First time the Rock had 20 fights second time 29. Same with Lastarza 1. Lasatarza said samething Lowry said. It was Weill who had the connections that got Marciano those decisions.
@starzulu Yes star I agree. To go further, Marciano should have a lost on his record. I feel he should have at least 4 losses.Reason being he turned pro and didn't look great doing so. Returned to the amatuer ranks where he lost. Afterwards returning back to pros. Once you turn pro you're always a pro.Then there was the Ted Lowry fight. Providince Journal scored fight 6-4 Lowry.Many had ringside had Ted winning. But Rock's manager Weill had connections at many venues the Rock fought .
@starzulu I m sure that data wasn't added to computer. I mean Lowry a middle and only 5 10 and Marciano won controversial decision over him? How in the hell is he beating ALi. Ted was s till in his 20s. A first for the Rock. All of his black opponents were in their late thirties except for Applegate..Applegate another black tomato can still in 20s. Marciano couldn't ko him either. In fact Applegate had 1 fight in 3 years when he faced the Rock. Sported a 11-14 record.con.,
@starzulu How does Marciano ko Ali. When he couldn't ko tomato can Applegate. Marciano was 36 0 when he fought Applgate. Marciano couldn't put a dent in him. Applegate 11-14 under 200 hadnt fought in 3 years .Marciano couldn't hurt him. Same with Lowry, a guy who weighed 177 whom fought at middle.Charles a former middle lost a controversial decision. Moore an ex welter , dropped the Rock in 2nd/. Archie was real old.So how does Marciano all of sudden ko Ali. A guy known for a chin?
@starzulu Sure Marciano got impressive ko's.But who were they against?A very used up Charles? A guy who fought in 5 different weight divisions? Who was 33 when Rock finally was able to ko him. How about the Walcott fight. Joe was pushing 40? Was leading on all cards by 4 going into the 13? Moore, a guy in his 40s ,who turned pro in 1929 at welterweight? Oh how about the great and prime Louis? Wasn't he pushing 40 also?What happens if roles are reversed. Old Marciano vs prime legends?
There's a very important factor thats being forgot. Ali would actually throw more pucnhes and be more defensive. I don't know who would have won, since both men have talent in their right. As a boxer I know never to understaminate a boxers desire to win.
Rocky fans can say "49-0" until they tune blue in the face; the fact is that most of them base their opinion on ONE fight: Walcott #1. But KOing a 38 yr-old, 6'0", 74" reach,196.5Lb Walcott, does NOT translate into beating a 6'3", 80" reach, 212 Lb, much younger, MUCH faster Ali. Actually it doesn't translate into Rocky beating ANY of the heavyweight champs, from Liston to Holyfield.
@vagina: Indeed, it -would- be -quite- entertaining, because it'd mean that Rocky's punches were able to create tornado-force winds, traveling the 18 inches that Rocky's fists were missing Ali by every time. (Thanks for being too chicken-shit to address your response to me:-)
@swaggeringrebel you just let your hatred to Ali afect your opinion, you just want any fighter too beat Ali you cleary show that in your JEALOUS messages on this video.
@B04Jordan Well it's not my "opinion" that clay got his ass kicked 5 times. That is a FACT. The all time greatest, Rocky Marciano, didn't have that problem so YOU'RE JEALOUS. I don't won't any fighter to beat clay. The Frazieritis does that daily. LOL!
Ali/Marciano: Most boring fight ever: Ali realizes he never needs to get in Rocky's range to repeatedly pop him in the head: More like sniper practice than boxing. Even when making contact, Ali'd be out of Rocky's reach, then he'd bounce even farther away, add some lateral movement: Rocky'd think he was looking at an empty ring, when BOOM, hit again. Wanna interesting fight? How about prime Dempsey vs prime Louis? : Similar height, similar weight, similar power, way different strategies..YEAH!
anyone who knows boxing knows Marciano was a tough customer.There is no disputing that BUT this is about Ali vs Marciano. Of course everyone knows that there is no way in hell Marciano beats Ali. This is a fictional fight for the deluded.
A so called "prime" clay would be too scared to even step into the ring with Rocky Marciano. The coward would be a Marciano dodger, just like he was a draft dodger.
@Vag:You're wrong, as usual: Ali wasn't a "draft dodger". Draft dodgers don't show up for the induction lineup. -Objectors- get in that line, but don't step forward. It's a -huge- difference: Dodgers run & hide, while objectors stand right in front of you & say:"NO". They don't 'dodge' anything; they -confront- it. Ali never dodged -any- opponent. The closest he came was not fighting Foreman twice, but he was well past his prime at that point, & he sure did fight him once:-).
@swaggeringrebel There's no such thing as a "so-called 'prime' ". We each have our personal prime, the period of our peak performance. Your rating of that prime is another matter entirely, (in addition to being wrong). EX: When you call me names instead of arguing logically, that's the best you can do: Vag in her "prime".
@lezbochickenshitbitch It's just sad that you two sissies can't cry on a comment section for a video of the coward draft dodger clay "winning" against Marciano. Of course, that doesn't exist because that would be insanely ridiculous. LOL!
@vag: And there we have our verification: You at your best, in your prime. It's all downhill for you from this point on, Vag. Luckily, there's not very far for you to fall;-) I do enjoy how you laugh out loud at yourself: Sign of a bad comedian.
@lazur1 Ali - 37 Year old shot up cripple gun victim crack head Cleveland williams was in his prime when he fought Ali? hahahaha, a 36 year old (easiest cutter in history) Henry cooper 184lbs knocked Ali out who then had to cheat his war dodging ass out of that one to knock out a 45 year old grandpa archie moore, then these stupid rigged liston fights ( who was probably 50 years as nobody knew his real age) was the so called greatest? LOL No way this clay guy beats the beast marciano!
Anyone who views "Muhammad Ali's Great Reflexes", (see link in column next to this forum), will -know- that Rocky'd never -touch- a prime Ali. (Well, Rocky's face would touch Ali's gloves, repeatedly, but that's it.)
he 2 come out .Ali's jab..pop pop pop...move..pop.pop...right cross that moves Marciano...Marciano bores a head running into jabs and crosses while Ali just slips those haymakers..OH!! Down goes the Rock from a right hand lead he did not see.Rocky's up at 6.Ali starts again..pop pop..move...pop pop move Rocky can't find Ali...oh my! The Rock is cut! Rd 7 The Ref. sends Marciano to the corner to have that eye looked at and it's all over..the cuts are too bad. ...Ali tkoes Marciano in round 7.
If I was bought up the same as Hart(aka Swaggeringrebel) I would shed those taught prejudices. I would rebel against that racist mentality. Some people have these obsolete belief systems that are rooted in hatred. The thing about hatred is..it hurts the person hating more than it does the hated. I doubt a guy like swaggeingrebel will ever get it. Maybe in another twenty lifetimes. What a waste of energy still Ali was no saint. A racist of another kind and a separatist Ali trounces Marciano.
@theonlyshitspring And so ends another year and you're still dumb as dirt. You know NOTHING about Boxing granny tranny. You should try and comment on something you have some knowledge about. Sucking black cock perhaps. This video shows who falls and gets counted out. All of us true Boxing experts agree with the outcome that this video clearly shows. Of course, it wouldn't take Marciano 13 rounds to put the chump to sleep. That's silly!
@awwww don't be upset. Many of us have had heros but when we grew up we shed them. I understand you want to be a boxing expert...ok....but here's a little tip for you from a REAL boxing expertthat will help you get started....Ali beats Marciano.
@theonlyshitspring Correction: You mean to say you're a REAL black cocksucking expert. You know NOTHING about Boxing. Remember Cleveland Williams? Case closed, you dumb racist.
@sshitspring ...no need to get personal. I was hoping you'd turn over a new rock for the new year...get it?...a new rock?....Rocky Marciano? Ya see one can maintain his sense of humour in the face of vulgarities as long as we remember what all boxing experts(including myself) agree...That Marciano goes down to Ali.
@TheBastardGregory Too bad there's no video to back up your ridiculous fantasy. Then you could post your ignorance on that comment section and maybe you wouldn't look quite so foolish. The only video there is shows what us true boxing experts already know. Marciano KO'S the racist chimp. Sorry to bust your bubble. Sorry.
@shotgunshawzy ..how can you argue evolution with a girl who can't even grasp the fact that Ali trounces Marciano. Before you can debate the age of the world you have to grasp facts that are as basic as gravity. As basic as Ali always beats Marciano...:)
@shotgunshawzy ....I hate argueing..It's so time consuming...what is it you're on about....I forgot BUT I remember that the great M.Ali wipes the floor with the plodder in Rocky Marciano..no need to get sore....:)
@ThePastorGregory Do you like dodging comments or swerving round them, i asked you why do christians believe the world is only 6000 years old when it is now widely accepted that the world is 6 billion years old and that dinosaurs existed millions of years ago, WHY IS THIS NOT IN THE BIBLE GULLIBE GORDAN? ; )
@shotgunshawzy LOL...whoa son ...you'll have a heart attack...over dinosaurs yet...Let me tell you what WE know for sure...(ONE) WE know exactly what we are told...(TWO) Ali TKOES MARCIANO.....) I'd like to discuss that useless info with you but I'm a fast talker. You could phone me...
@ThePastorGregory According to the word of god and the useless info contained in the bible the world is only 6000 years old which has now been scientifically proven wrong as its really a 6 billion year old planet we live on which contained dinosaurs millions of years ago, HOW is this in any way useless information? (Clay has a 1000/1 chance of a points victory over Marciano thats if clays head is still on his shoulders after 15 rounds & thats me being generous) ; )
I read the Bible.I read The Koran.I read the Dhammapadda. Tell me what the Christians think there ya wannabe. I don't recall Christ estimating the age of the planet and do you know why? because it doesn't matter! Tell me what the Christians think sonny. How can this planet only be 6000 years old?!?! Do you know for sure?That's as silly as thinking Marciano could ever beat Ali.
The GREAT Ali demolishes the awkward plodder. People who know boxing,know this but it's really interesting how some girls have to hold onto ideas that have been proven to be false. Hero worship I guess ....for little people that need these media made characters like Marciano. Kinda sad really.
@ThePastorGregory I see you remeoved my comment from your youtube page, doesent the christian faith have an awnser for dinosaurs considering you guys believe the world is only 6000 years old, are the dinosaur fossils found all over the world just there to test your faith? LOL you may censor it on your page but you sure as hell cant censor it here buddy LOL ................Dont you have a comeback on this subject? Cat got your tongue? -_-
@shotgunshawzy ..you guys? dinosaurs? i don't know..it's all too much for me to ponder...BUT I do know this...Ali busts up Marciano up and of course a PRIME Louis koes Marciano. 49 and quit.:...:)
@shotgunshawzy ....dude...I am so old I couldn't figure out how to respond...the old Evolution vs Creation debate eh? Hmmm...here's something for your drug laden barin...It's likely the earth has had dramatic geographic shifts over time...I believe the earth turns on it's axel or changes it's magnetic poles evry so often...and I believe it's going to do it again SOON! I believe huge populations will die. So you can say hi to Marciano for me..............:)
@ThePastorGregory What has shifts with the earths magnetic poles (which "IN THEORY" so happens to be every couple of hundred thousand years each time) got to do with dinosaur fossils that can be proven sceintifically to be millions of years old through carbon dating and the "christians" who gullibly lap up the belief that the world is only 6000 years old? LOL obviously i have struck a nerve with this otherwise you wouldnt have removed it from your page LOL
@shotgunshawzy .The end of the world is when you die....and listen...what difference does it make if the dinosaurs danced in pink dresses..Who cares. The lifespan of the average man in this society is 77 years...when your dead it doesn't matter much. This life is temporary. Men of understanding know this. Prepare for the next life....:) BUT in this life....Ali pounds the awkward plodder.
@ThePastorGregory Oh thats right back to the self proclaimed "brown trunks" clay debacle............. Marciano's young lion's "Carmine vingo" career got cut short drastically after he hospitalised and put in a coma. (Apparently vingo had a promising career ahead of him & was doing well with marciano up untill the 6th round)
@ThePastorGregory Back on the "brown trunks" clay subject he knows deep down in his heart Marciano was the greatest as he had massive respect and humility for the man, Marciano's record speaks for itself in ANY era that is a great achievment 49-0 in the heavyweight division is unbelievable, Cassius on many occasions quoted Marciano woulda gave him the most trouble out of ALL the heavies as his crouching swarming style woulda been tough for him to deal with, clay was intelligent
@sh: In fact, universally accepted boxing experts have gone back & forth on who'd win Ali vs Louis. Both have the tools to win. Ali wins w/similar strategy to Billy Conn's, Ali loses if he makes the same mistake Conn made. If the quick, light-hitting 182 lb / 72.5" reach Conn can come within one mistake of beating Louis, the even quicker, heavier-hitting, 212 lb / 80" reach Ali certainly doesn't lose "every day". Maybe every other day.
@shotgunshawzy ....I am not an Ali "ball hugger" at all...I am just pointing out that Marciano was created by for all white audience using old, shot and light guys. Ali took on LIston, Frazier three times, Kenny Norton three times, beat Foreman just for starters. These guys are all "young lions"/
Marciano would beat the dog shit out of 26-17-3. It wouldn't take him no 30 rounds to do it either. Clay struggled 30 rounds with the BUM and NEVER came away with a convincing victory. A whole bunch of hugging, grabbing, clinching, and holding is all the coward could do with that crackhead BUM. They looked like two faggots in love with each other! A DISGRACE to Boxing!
@swaggeringrebel Actually this is not a disgrace to boxing as it was not a real fight, it was just a fictional match. Go to Wikipedia and type The Super Fight, it was also released on DVD.
@gam3rdx Actually, I never said this was a disgrace to boxing. If you go back and read my comment, I was referring to clay vs. Spinks. THAT was a DISGRACE to boxing.
Clay diagnosed with the Frazieritis - 1982. 4 years AFTER the coward struggled 30 rounds with Leon Spinks and lost his belt to the toothless crackhead BUM. Yes, 4 years AFTER. Anything that looks like Frazieritis to some of you ignorant fools is merely the results of that toothless crackhead BUM kicking clay's cowardly ass. Sorry. Can't use the Frazieritis as an excuse. Better figure out a different one.
@vag: Ok, so just in case one person out there might not think you're a moron a-hole, you decided to clear that up. Thanks: You now officially don't have a friend in the world.
Clay diagnosed with the Frazieritis - 1982. 4 years AFTER the coward struggled 30 rounds with Leon Spinks and lost his belt to the toothless crackhead BUM. Can't use the Frazieritis as an excuse. Better figure out a different one.
@Pastor: Rocky's 'wins' over his bro, (fighting under aliases), were as an amateur. The ruse was discovered, Rocky was suspended, his padded amateur record was corrected to 9-4. This raises serious doubts about Rocky being the "good guy" his fans claim: 1/Good guys don't pad records w/fake fights vs their brother using aliases. 2/ People don't change: Anyone willing to go to such extremes to pad an -amateur- record would do -anything- to get the big -pro- bucks. Rocky: Cheater, Coward , Clutz.
@Vag: You're an idiot. Any normal observer can see the effects of Parkinson's on Ali 4 years before being "diagnosed". People don't just wake up one day with Parkinson's after being 100% ok the day before, you fucking moron. // Ali was a brave man, he knew if he went to a doctor to have his symptoms diagnosed, he'd never be allowed to fight again: Not a smart move, but brave. Rocky quit because his back hurt: A smart move, but not brave.
not to mention most light heavies....hey RRJ beats Marciano...all day,everday, for a year! James Toney...The Klitchos...no...I was just kidding ...Marciano KOES both of those guys...:)
@swaggeringrebel ...Live with what? Live with the Klitchoes can be beaten by Marciano. I jusr realized something...they are all white....does this mean...you love the Klitchoes MORE than Marciano?
@TheBastorGregory Hey you racist plodder. Marciano beats the runaway coward all day, every day. Us true Boxing experts routinely recognize this. 56-5 just can't measure up to 49-0. You know NOTHING about Boxing!
@grebel ..I know this about boxing....Marciano could NEVER beat Ali. 49 and quit. Men of understanding know this. It automatic...as in no thought required. The only girl who doesn't know is you. You must be deluded...poor soul.
@TheBastardGregory Hey Miss queer, your light jabbing coward hero STRUGGLED 30 rounds with Leon Spinks. He couldn't do anything with that BUM! And only the BUM'S 8th and 9th career fights. A toothless crackhead BUM with a career record of 26-17-3. Clay lost his belt to that zero talented BUM! Marciano would've destroyed both of those clowns in the same night! BWHAHAHAHAHA! You know NOTHING sissyboy!
@TheBastardGregory You have shit for brains sissyboy. Marciano would put a beating on that BUM Leon Spinks worse than what Tyson did to Michael Spinks. Clay struggled 30 rounds with that talentless chump and could do NOTHING with him! Some so-called "greatest." 30 rounds granny! Did you ever even see it dumbass? 30 of some of the worst and most pathetic rounds in Boxing history. If I had paid to see that pitiful shit I would've demanded my money back!
@vag; Ali, vs Spinks, was already -4- years older than the oldest Rocky -ever- fought. Ali was already suffering from Parkinson's, & was on medication that further undermined his strength, speed, coordination, concentration & balance: You HAVE to use this part of Ali's career to make him look bad, because the rest of it looked so GOOD:-)
@lazur1 ,,and I loved the Ali/Spinks fights. High Drama that only Ali could produce. The rematch was superb. The old man warming up and finding his timing and winning back the title for the third time. It was great!
@Bastard "Great?" That BORING "fight?" I'd be more entertained watching a turtle race. One of Spinks' corner men walked out in the middle of that so-called rematch saying it was fixed. I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, both those matches with the BUM Spinks may have been set up for clay to lose the belt and then "win" it back so the coward could claim that he was a "3 time champion." Those 30 rounds sure looked like 2 BUMS not wanting to hurt each other. A DISGRACE to Boxing!
@s:I guess youngsters've never seen Ali's real fights, have no idea how invincible everyone thought Foreman was, (& he -was-), or how "past-it" we thought Ali was,(since he'd lost to Frazier, who'd lost to Foreman). AliKOForeman, was as surprising as DouglasKOTyson. Where's ballet in the Frazier/Ali fights? Nowhere: Nothing but 2 men beating the crap out of each other for 41Rs! I hope you're 8 years old, otherwise there's no excuse for your ignorance. Try watching some fight films, little boy.
@shotgunshawzy Yeah, hit like a butterfly, run away like a little girl. Clay tried to talk big but today, he just shakes and quivers and shits his britches all day. LOL!
@swaggeringrebel ..it's a shame that this forum is used to express racism. One day you can be a real man by facing the truth. The truth is Ali tromps the awkward gangster.
@TheBastardGregory You know MissAssyLassy, with you being white, clay would think more highly of you if you just killed yourself.You should try to make your coward hero happy, especially in his quivering, trembling last days.
Ooh! I smell CHICKEN SHIT! Oh nevermind, it's just karen, aka lazur, the chickenshit lezbo bitch that was too scared to meet me in person because she didn't want me to bust her tender face on the sidewalk.
@Vag: Aha! More evidence that -you're- the 'no-show' chicken-shit: You were too scared to address this remark to my email. I get it: You want to look like a big shot to the other posters without clueing me in. One problem: Nobody gives a shit about you & your problems;-) // Hey, I probably saw you in Boston: Were you that grandma with the cane?
Of course EVERYONE knows that Ali would bust Marciano up. It would be a short contest. You can't just bore in with a sharp shooter like Ali....well you can..the price would be a self inflicted TKO. This is common knowledge...like gravity. Only those who want to cling to old ideas that no longer hold truth believe differently. These people are deluded. Many are racists.
@thelonelyshitspring Speaking of racists, did you ever speak to Elijah a long time ago, (back when you weren't so ancient,) about you signing up to be a black muslim? Even though you're white, he might've let you join up with them since you hate white folks so much and you follow a fake god. They might've even allowed you to kill your white ass at one of their meetings, to demonstrate your hatred for white people. You might still can! Let me know if I can be of any help, ok?
"Muhammad Ali's Great Reflexes" proves Rocky's no chance for head shots, & Ali's speed'll get him at least 2 shots to Rocky's head for every Rocky miss; but what about Rocky going to the body, a much large target, harder to evade? ARE YOU KIDDING? 1st of all, Ali was the fastest of foot, not just hands, so evasion is easy. 2nd, if he doesn't evade, it's because he CHOOSES not to: He's got Rocky timed: Rocky feels a big uppercut on his way in,every time.
@vagina; Apparently, if a butterfly lands on you often enough, 37 of you will be knocked out by it:-) / It's called "boxing", otherwise known as the attempt to "hit & don't -get- hit", which is exactly what you just described with such a negative tone, which reveals that you just don't -like- boxing! Make sense.
@shotgunshawzy The fact is that the slower post-draft Ali repeatedly walked into the eye of the storm of the heaviest punchers of his era, took all they had to give, & returned fire with interest. Why don't you put up clips of -you- toughing it out while taking beatings like Ali took from Frazier for 41 rounds. Only then can you call names with any credibility.
ali and all the american boxers are all pussys! the americans just buy the fights und now the russians do it! turkisch boxers are the best in the world actually, but they got payed for losing always.even our badest bopxer is better than all pussys like ali,tyson,marciano etc!!
@sshitspring weak era? you obviously dont no nothing. it was the hardest era. with legends he beat like george foreman, joe frazier, sunny liston, joe bugner and so on. he didnt go in with power like rocky. he danced with them with skill and the only reason he lost 5 times is because he just came back form jail for 3 years and was rusty. and your insulting everyone in wheelchairs you stupid gay cunt show some respect for people who are unlucky enough to be in a wheelchair and the greatest boxer
@BoAPussyPink Clay's era "the hardest era?" Yeah right. Clay lost his belt to a toothless crackhead BUM that had a career record of 26-17-3. 30 rounds clay STRUGGLED with 26-17-3! 30 of some of the most boring rounds in HW Boxing history! An embarrassment to professional Boxing! Clay also faced 50 year old Archie Moore in this "hardest era." The Liston "fights" were FAKE. Hell, a 36 year old bartender knocked clay flat on his ass! Lay off the junk boy! It's made you delusional!
@swaggerFaggotbelend Get a life i mean your posting thousands of comment on 1 video which is fake and fucking rocky up the ass in his grave all day GROW UP
@BoaTinyDick Hey sissyboy. Your coward hero gets his light jabbing ass kicked in this video and today, he sits in a wheelchair trembling, shaking, slobbering, quivering and shitting his britches. LOL! That's too bad! If you don't like it here sissyboy, go watch a video of clay actually winning a match. You know, like when he wins against Williams. A gut shot handicapped ain't never been. You sure as hell won't find a video of the coward winning against Rocky Marciano! BWHAHAHAHA!
@swaggercunttwatfaggottitheadnob hey no one likes you. this isnt even a real fight you retarded shit head. oh go and find a video that ali beats rocky? how it never happended fucking dumbass part of a fanboy film everyone knows ali could beat rocky. now go and jerk your 1cm dick to some gay porn
@BoaTinyDick Sounds like I made you mad sissyboy. LOL! That's good. I like seeing a pussy sissyboy like you get mad. You're right dickbreath. You can't find a video of clay winning against Marciano. That's because that would be totally unbelievable! In these computer fights, Marciano beat Dempsey to lay claim to the ALL TIME GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT. Your coward hero clay was put out right away by Jeffries. This video was a favor to clay for all his crying. He wanted this, he got it!
@swaggergaybelend this proves nothing as the fight never happended. if the fight did happend muhammad ali could beat him in the 5th round. you no it fag
@BoaTinyDick Sounds like I made you mad sissyboy. LOL! That's good. I like seeing a pussy sissyboy like you get mad. You're right dickbreath. You can't find a video of clay winning against Marciano. That's because that would be totally unbelievable! In these computer fights, Marciano beat Dempsey to lay claim to the ALL TIME GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT. Your coward hero clay was put out right away by Jeffries. This video was a favor to clay for all his crying. He wanted this, he got it!
@vag: When Ali lost to Spinks, he's 4yrs OLDER than Rocky when Rock RETIRED. Don't get me wrong: ROCKY did the RIGHT thing, ALI made the MISTAKE of NOT retiring at 32, like Rocky did. BUT: It's BRAVELY FACING ADVERSITY, even foolishly, even in defeat, that makes a man great, not QUITTING while he's ahead, to protect his precious perfect record, taking his ball & going home. Ali was a brave but foolish man. A great man. Rocky was a strategically wise, but cowardly man. Not so great.
@vag: Ali had 3 careers: 1/ PreDraft. 2/ PostDraft. 3/ PostParkinsons. Career1/ Undefeated.The fights you think are fake are still on the books as Clay/Ali wins. What you think simply doesn't matter. Career2/ Two losses, 1 vs Frazier / 1 vs Norton, each avenged -twice-. At 35, in his last bout as a healthy fighter, 3 years older than the 32 Rocky last boxed at, he beat the younger, imposing, Ernie Shavers. Career3/ Debilitated by illness, he avenged loss to Spinks, to win the title a 3rd time.
@lezbochickenshitbitch Clay had 3 heads: 1/ The hollow one on his shoulders. 2/ The shriveled up one in his pants. 3/ Yours, bobbing back and forth on that shriveled up one in his pants. Look at that! I gave you 1 minute of my much sought after attention! Now chickenshit bitch, you'll just have to wait for me to decide when I want to give you any more of my time. Why, I might even feed you some of my feces!!! Happy waiting.
@vag: You try so hard, but you can't stay away. You don't "decide" shit,vag: It wells up in you, until the pressure gets so intense that you have to get it out to keep from exploding. but it's always too late, you -do- explode, every time. That's hardly what anyone would call a "decision", you poor little girl.
@lezbochickenshitbitch I don't try to "stay away" you stupid piece of chicken shit. I just choose to give YOU very limited attention because you're an ignorant chickenshit lesbian bitch. I know your lonesome dried up ass craves some attention but face it old woman, you're just old and unwanted. I bet you're so fucking ugly you don't even need a Halloween mask. BWHAHAHAHA! Relish this little bit of attention you're getting you shit eating lezbo bitch because your days ahead are LONELY!
@Vag; She's back! She's back! Oh joy! More attention for ME! /// You -know- what I look like, little girl ..you saw me while you were hiding in the shadows in Boston, but you wouldn't come out and play;-)
@T:My previous post wasn't clear enough?: NO. I will NOT "shut up".GET IT? I suspect you actually knew that. In fact, you probably ENJOY these useless fake arguments. So let's keep going. It's all up to you. I promise to never tell YOU to "shut up". Do you have the honesty & discipline to shut yourSELF up? You obviously have nothing to say about Marciano or Ali, & find me to be much more fascinating than they are, so SURE, keep talking about ME, if you want to., you fucking idiot.
Marciano fought old, shot and light guys exclusively. There are some who say Marciano fought the best that were available at the time and THAT may be true BUT that doesn't mean he would beat Ali as this racist video tries to show. We that live in the real world know that Ali stops Marciano on cuts bruises and abrasions. The undeluded know it's true. A lot of racists out there.
ThePastorGregory 1 day ago
Ya brockton we out here
thasimplerulez 3 days ago
No way a sharpshooter like Ali gets beaten by an awkward LHW like Marciano.
ThePastorGregory 4 days ago
Ali would have been too fast for the cumbersome Marciano, just take a look at the Ali Foreman fight -and Foreman could punch like no one in those days! And look at the outcome. So for all those Marciano fans who think he could have beaten Ali I say ...DREAM ON! Ali is the GREATEST! We all love you Ali.
starzulu 5 days ago
@starzulu The only thing clay would do "too fast" against Marciano would be getting knocked out. So for you deluded clay fans who think he could have beaten Marciano I say ...DREAM ON MOTHERFUCKER! Marciano is the GREATEST and his record proves it! Clay was a 5 time LOSER. BWHAHAHAHAHA!
swaggeringrebel 4 days ago
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@swaggeringrebel ...did you know that obcessive compulsive people often see things in black and white. They must have a girl like you on some drug or another.
ThePastorGregory 3 days ago
@swaggeringrebel Lowry was robbed. It was a 1 judge that awarded Marciano decision.Marciano said himself he couldn't ko the ex middle if he fought him 100 times. Ted 58 wins 48 losses when he faced the Rock. They went to decision twice.Ted weighed in a t 177 and was only 5 10h. First time the Rock had 20 fights second time 29. Same with Lastarza 1. Lasatarza said samething Lowry said. It was Weill who had the connections that got Marciano those decisions.
Freedom0467 19 hours ago
@starzulu Yes star I agree. To go further, Marciano should have a lost on his record. I feel he should have at least 4 losses.Reason being he turned pro and didn't look great doing so. Returned to the amatuer ranks where he lost. Afterwards returning back to pros. Once you turn pro you're always a pro.Then there was the Ted Lowry fight. Providince Journal scored fight 6-4 Lowry.Many had ringside had Ted winning. But Rock's manager Weill had connections at many venues the Rock fought .
Freedom0467 19 hours ago
@starzulu I m sure that data wasn't added to computer. I mean Lowry a middle and only 5 10 and Marciano won controversial decision over him? How in the hell is he beating ALi. Ted was s till in his 20s. A first for the Rock. All of his black opponents were in their late thirties except for Applegate..Applegate another black tomato can still in 20s. Marciano couldn't ko him either. In fact Applegate had 1 fight in 3 years when he faced the Rock. Sported a 11-14 record.con.,
Freedom0467 19 hours ago
@starzulu How does Marciano ko Ali. When he couldn't ko tomato can Applegate. Marciano was 36 0 when he fought Applgate. Marciano couldn't put a dent in him. Applegate 11-14 under 200 hadnt fought in 3 years .Marciano couldn't hurt him. Same with Lowry, a guy who weighed 177 whom fought at middle.Charles a former middle lost a controversial decision. Moore an ex welter , dropped the Rock in 2nd/. Archie was real old.So how does Marciano all of sudden ko Ali. A guy known for a chin?
Freedom0467 19 hours ago
@starzulu Sure Marciano got impressive ko's.But who were they against?A very used up Charles? A guy who fought in 5 different weight divisions? Who was 33 when Rock finally was able to ko him. How about the Walcott fight. Joe was pushing 40? Was leading on all cards by 4 going into the 13? Moore, a guy in his 40s ,who turned pro in 1929 at welterweight? Oh how about the great and prime Louis? Wasn't he pushing 40 also?What happens if roles are reversed. Old Marciano vs prime legends?
Freedom0467 19 hours ago
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Its hard to say who would beat who on this fight.
Ali is considered to be the greatest of all time which is very realistic, but nobody found a way to beat Marciano..
who would win this fight? The world may never know
EDyAVALOS 5 days ago
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EDyAVALOS 5 days ago
It's silly to believe that Marciano could beat Ali.,,,,only racists believe that.
theonlysaltspring 1 week ago
@theLonelyshitspring The black muslims are racist. Have you joined up with them yet, racist?
swaggeringrebel 1 week ago
@swaggeringrebel ..only deluded racists think that Ali could possibly lose to the awkward plooder...deluded.
ThePastorGregory 4 days ago
@TheBastardGregory The black muslims want YOU, racist.
swaggeringrebel 4 days ago
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theonlysaltspring 1 week ago
rubbish bias, TRUE boxing know this is false, this PC ALSO PREDICTED FOSTER WOULD BEAT FRAZIER, GUESS WHAT FRAZIER KO'ED FOSTER 2ND ROUND.
B04Jordan 1 week ago
Buuuuuuuulll shit!
HNinjaIC 1 week ago
Happy Birthday Champ...ALi..Ali...ALiEEEEEEE!
ThePastorGregory 2 weeks ago
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ThePastorGregory 2 weeks ago
There's a very important factor thats being forgot. Ali would actually throw more pucnhes and be more defensive. I don't know who would have won, since both men have talent in their right. As a boxer I know never to understaminate a boxers desire to win.
aky19832001 2 weeks ago
This video shows what would happen to that coward chump clay. Nighty night cassius. BWHAHAHAHA!
swaggeringrebel 2 weeks ago 7
hey Rock take that beaver off the top of your head!
billthestinker 2 weeks ago
Rocky fans can say "49-0" until they tune blue in the face; the fact is that most of them base their opinion on ONE fight: Walcott #1. But KOing a 38 yr-old, 6'0", 74" reach,196.5Lb Walcott, does NOT translate into beating a 6'3", 80" reach, 212 Lb, much younger, MUCH faster Ali. Actually it doesn't translate into Rocky beating ANY of the heavyweight champs, from Liston to Holyfield.
lazur1 2 weeks ago
@lazur1 ...from Floyd to Holyfeild...:)
ThePastorGregory 2 weeks ago
Actually, Marciano knocking out clay would be pretty entertaining unless you're a clay nut sucker. Then you probably wouldn't like it. BWHAHAHAHA!
swaggeringrebel 2 weeks ago 6
@vagina: Indeed, it -would- be -quite- entertaining, because it'd mean that Rocky's punches were able to create tornado-force winds, traveling the 18 inches that Rocky's fists were missing Ali by every time. (Thanks for being too chicken-shit to address your response to me:-)
lazur1 2 weeks ago
@swaggeringrebel you just let your hatred to Ali afect your opinion, you just want any fighter too beat Ali you cleary show that in your JEALOUS messages on this video.
B04Jordan 1 week ago
@B04Jordan Well it's not my "opinion" that clay got his ass kicked 5 times. That is a FACT. The all time greatest, Rocky Marciano, didn't have that problem so YOU'RE JEALOUS. I don't won't any fighter to beat clay. The Frazieritis does that daily. LOL!
swaggeringrebel 1 week ago
Ali/Marciano: Most boring fight ever: Ali realizes he never needs to get in Rocky's range to repeatedly pop him in the head: More like sniper practice than boxing. Even when making contact, Ali'd be out of Rocky's reach, then he'd bounce even farther away, add some lateral movement: Rocky'd think he was looking at an empty ring, when BOOM, hit again. Wanna interesting fight? How about prime Dempsey vs prime Louis? : Similar height, similar weight, similar power, way different strategies..YEAH!
lazur1 2 weeks ago
bye bye rock
ThePastorGregory 2 weeks ago
bye bye ali
ChannelTDS 3 weeks ago
anyone who knows boxing knows Marciano was a tough customer.There is no disputing that BUT this is about Ali vs Marciano. Of course everyone knows that there is no way in hell Marciano beats Ali. This is a fictional fight for the deluded.
ThePastorGregory 3 weeks ago
A so called "prime" clay would be too scared to even step into the ring with Rocky Marciano. The coward would be a Marciano dodger, just like he was a draft dodger.
swaggeringrebel 3 weeks ago
@Vag:You're wrong, as usual: Ali wasn't a "draft dodger". Draft dodgers don't show up for the induction lineup. -Objectors- get in that line, but don't step forward. It's a -huge- difference: Dodgers run & hide, while objectors stand right in front of you & say:"NO". They don't 'dodge' anything; they -confront- it. Ali never dodged -any- opponent. The closest he came was not fighting Foreman twice, but he was well past his prime at that point, & he sure did fight him once:-).
lazur1 3 weeks ago
@swaggeringrebel There's no such thing as a "so-called 'prime' ". We each have our personal prime, the period of our peak performance. Your rating of that prime is another matter entirely, (in addition to being wrong). EX: When you call me names instead of arguing logically, that's the best you can do: Vag in her "prime".
lazur1 3 weeks ago
@lezbochickenshitbitch It's just sad that you two sissies can't cry on a comment section for a video of the coward draft dodger clay "winning" against Marciano. Of course, that doesn't exist because that would be insanely ridiculous. LOL!
swaggeringrebel 3 weeks ago
@vag: And there we have our verification: You at your best, in your prime. It's all downhill for you from this point on, Vag. Luckily, there's not very far for you to fall;-) I do enjoy how you laugh out loud at yourself: Sign of a bad comedian.
lazur1 3 weeks ago
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@lazur1 Ali - 37 Year old shot up cripple gun victim crack head Cleveland williams was in his prime when he fought Ali? hahahaha, a 36 year old (easiest cutter in history) Henry cooper 184lbs knocked Ali out who then had to cheat his war dodging ass out of that one to knock out a 45 year old grandpa archie moore, then these stupid rigged liston fights ( who was probably 50 years as nobody knew his real age) was the so called greatest? LOL No way this clay guy beats the beast marciano!
shotgunshawzy 3 weeks ago
Anyone who views "Muhammad Ali's Great Reflexes", (see link in column next to this forum), will -know- that Rocky'd never -touch- a prime Ali. (Well, Rocky's face would touch Ali's gloves, repeatedly, but that's it.)
lazur1 3 weeks ago
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he 2 come out .Ali's jab..pop pop pop...move..pop.pop...right cross that moves Marciano...Marciano bores a head running into jabs and crosses while Ali just slips those haymakers..OH!! Down goes the Rock from a right hand lead he did not see.Rocky's up at 6.Ali starts again..pop pop..move...pop pop move Rocky can't find Ali...oh my! The Rock is cut! Rd 7 The Ref. sends Marciano to the corner to have that eye looked at and it's all over..the cuts are too bad. ...Ali tkoes Marciano in round 7.
ThePastorGregory 3 weeks ago
Clay was at the very least, a 5 TIME LOSER! Marciano would've made it a very punishing 6th loss for the LOSER runaway clay.
swaggeringrebel 4 weeks ago
Roses are red violets are blue, Marciano beats the shit out of clay and everybody else too.
swaggeringrebel 4 weeks ago
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If I was bought up the same as Hart(aka Swaggeringrebel) I would shed those taught prejudices. I would rebel against that racist mentality. Some people have these obsolete belief systems that are rooted in hatred. The thing about hatred is..it hurts the person hating more than it does the hated. I doubt a guy like swaggeingrebel will ever get it. Maybe in another twenty lifetimes. What a waste of energy still Ali was no saint. A racist of another kind and a separatist Ali trounces Marciano.
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theonlysaltspring 1 month ago
To us true boxing experts it comes as no real shock, clay gets KO'D by the Rock.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@swaggeringrebel ....even on this New Years day Ali beats the Rock in eevry way.....:)
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@TheBastardGregory Even though he shits his britches and he's old and slow, clay could NEVER have beaten a big Klitschko.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
Generations will agree
Marciano falls to Alieee!
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
They say great men die two deaths...First the greatness dies and then the man.
theonlysaltspring 1 month ago
and so ends another year.....and all boxing experts still agree...Marciano falls to Ali !
theonlysaltspring 1 month ago
@theonlyshitspring And so ends another year and you're still dumb as dirt. You know NOTHING about Boxing granny tranny. You should try and comment on something you have some knowledge about. Sucking black cock perhaps. This video shows who falls and gets counted out. All of us true Boxing experts agree with the outcome that this video clearly shows. Of course, it wouldn't take Marciano 13 rounds to put the chump to sleep. That's silly!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@awwww don't be upset. Many of us have had heros but when we grew up we shed them. I understand you want to be a boxing expert...ok....but here's a little tip for you from a REAL boxing expertthat will help you get started....Ali beats Marciano.
theonlysaltspring 1 month ago
@theonlyshitspring Correction: You mean to say you're a REAL black cocksucking expert. You know NOTHING about Boxing. Remember Cleveland Williams? Case closed, you dumb racist.
sshitspring 1 month ago
@sshitspring ...no need to get personal. I was hoping you'd turn over a new rock for the new year...get it?...a new rock?....Rocky Marciano? Ya see one can maintain his sense of humour in the face of vulgarities as long as we remember what all boxing experts(including myself) agree...That Marciano goes down to Ali.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@TheBastardGregory Too bad there's no video to back up your ridiculous fantasy. Then you could post your ignorance on that comment section and maybe you wouldn't look quite so foolish. The only video there is shows what us true boxing experts already know. Marciano KO'S the racist chimp. Sorry to bust your bubble. Sorry.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
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@shotgunshawzy ..how can you argue evolution with a girl who can't even grasp the fact that Ali trounces Marciano. Before you can debate the age of the world you have to grasp facts that are as basic as gravity. As basic as Ali always beats Marciano...:)
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
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@shotgunshawzy ....I hate argueing..It's so time consuming...what is it you're on about....I forgot BUT I remember that the great M.Ali wipes the floor with the plodder in Rocky Marciano..no need to get sore....:)
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@ThePastorGregory Do you like dodging comments or swerving round them, i asked you why do christians believe the world is only 6000 years old when it is now widely accepted that the world is 6 billion years old and that dinosaurs existed millions of years ago, WHY IS THIS NOT IN THE BIBLE GULLIBE GORDAN? ; )
shotgunshawzy 1 month ago
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ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@shotgunshawzy LOL...whoa son ...you'll have a heart attack...over dinosaurs yet...Let me tell you what WE know for sure...(ONE) WE know exactly what we are told...(TWO) Ali TKOES MARCIANO.....) I'd like to discuss that useless info with you but I'm a fast talker. You could phone me...
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@ThePastorGregory According to the word of god and the useless info contained in the bible the world is only 6000 years old which has now been scientifically proven wrong as its really a 6 billion year old planet we live on which contained dinosaurs millions of years ago, HOW is this in any way useless information? (Clay has a 1000/1 chance of a points victory over Marciano thats if clays head is still on his shoulders after 15 rounds & thats me being generous) ; )
shotgunshawzy 1 month ago
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@shotgunshawzy
I read the Bible.I read The Koran.I read the Dhammapadda. Tell me what the Christians think there ya wannabe. I don't recall Christ estimating the age of the planet and do you know why? because it doesn't matter! Tell me what the Christians think sonny. How can this planet only be 6000 years old?!?! Do you know for sure?That's as silly as thinking Marciano could ever beat Ali.
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ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
Where was Marciano's "young lion" ? Ali had Frazier, Holmes had Witherspoon. etc.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
There can't be anyone left in the world that thinks that Marciano could possibly beat Ali....is there?
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
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ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@ThePastorGregory Well in that case, Merry Christmas and try and take it easy on the eggnog! :)
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
The GREAT Ali demolishes the awkward plodder. People who know boxing,know this but it's really interesting how some girls have to hold onto ideas that have been proven to be false. Hero worship I guess ....for little people that need these media made characters like Marciano. Kinda sad really.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@ThePastorGregory "girls have to hold onto ideas" - sounds like clays full career
shotgunshawzy 1 month ago
@shotgunshawzy ..dude ...too much smokin' dope.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@ThePastorGregory I see you remeoved my comment from your youtube page, doesent the christian faith have an awnser for dinosaurs considering you guys believe the world is only 6000 years old, are the dinosaur fossils found all over the world just there to test your faith? LOL you may censor it on your page but you sure as hell cant censor it here buddy LOL ................Dont you have a comeback on this subject? Cat got your tongue? -_-
shotgunshawzy 1 month ago
@shotgunshawzy ..you guys? dinosaurs? i don't know..it's all too much for me to ponder...BUT I do know this...Ali busts up Marciano up and of course a PRIME Louis koes Marciano. 49 and quit.:...:)
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@shotgunshawzy ....dude...I am so old I couldn't figure out how to respond...the old Evolution vs Creation debate eh? Hmmm...here's something for your drug laden barin...It's likely the earth has had dramatic geographic shifts over time...I believe the earth turns on it's axel or changes it's magnetic poles evry so often...and I believe it's going to do it again SOON! I believe huge populations will die. So you can say hi to Marciano for me..............:)
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
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shotgunshawzy 1 month ago
@shotgunshawzy ..removing your own comments...perhaps you have seen the folly of your ways....go thy way and sin no more.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
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@ThePastorGregory What has shifts with the earths magnetic poles (which "IN THEORY" so happens to be every couple of hundred thousand years each time) got to do with dinosaur fossils that can be proven sceintifically to be millions of years old through carbon dating and the "christians" who gullibly lap up the belief that the world is only 6000 years old? LOL obviously i have struck a nerve with this otherwise you wouldnt have removed it from your page LOL
shotgunshawzy 1 month ago
@shotgunshawzy .The end of the world is when you die....and listen...what difference does it make if the dinosaurs danced in pink dresses..Who cares. The lifespan of the average man in this society is 77 years...when your dead it doesn't matter much. This life is temporary. Men of understanding know this. Prepare for the next life....:) BUT in this life....Ali pounds the awkward plodder.
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@ThePastorGregory Oh thats right back to the self proclaimed "brown trunks" clay debacle............. Marciano's young lion's "Carmine vingo" career got cut short drastically after he hospitalised and put in a coma. (Apparently vingo had a promising career ahead of him & was doing well with marciano up untill the 6th round)
shotgunshawzy 1 month ago
@ThePastorGregory Back on the "brown trunks" clay subject he knows deep down in his heart Marciano was the greatest as he had massive respect and humility for the man, Marciano's record speaks for itself in ANY era that is a great achievment 49-0 in the heavyweight division is unbelievable, Cassius on many occasions quoted Marciano woulda gave him the most trouble out of ALL the heavies as his crouching swarming style woulda been tough for him to deal with, clay was intelligent
shotgunshawzy 1 month ago
@ThePastorGregory People who "know boxing" knows joe louis woulda smashed "brown trunks" clay every day of the week left hand then right.
shotgunshawzy 1 month ago
@shotgunshawzy ... A prime Louis KOes Marciano.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@sh: In fact, universally accepted boxing experts have gone back & forth on who'd win Ali vs Louis. Both have the tools to win. Ali wins w/similar strategy to Billy Conn's, Ali loses if he makes the same mistake Conn made. If the quick, light-hitting 182 lb / 72.5" reach Conn can come within one mistake of beating Louis, the even quicker, heavier-hitting, 212 lb / 80" reach Ali certainly doesn't lose "every day". Maybe every other day.
lazur1 1 month ago
No need to stoop to profanity.....:)
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
Fun... every clay ball hugger forgets he beat on ancient archie , then gloated over his carcass thinking he was superman some camp/chump
shotgunshawzy 1 month ago
@shotgunshawzy ....I am not an Ali "ball hugger" at all...I am just pointing out that Marciano was created by for all white audience using old, shot and light guys. Ali took on LIston, Frazier three times, Kenny Norton three times, beat Foreman just for starters. These guys are all "young lions"/
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@TheBastardGregory Don't talk with your mouth full of clay's shriveled up balls, racist.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@swaggingrebel ...get help..stop taking those SSRIs.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
Marciano would beat the dog shit out of 26-17-3. It wouldn't take him no 30 rounds to do it either. Clay struggled 30 rounds with the BUM and NEVER came away with a convincing victory. A whole bunch of hugging, grabbing, clinching, and holding is all the coward could do with that crackhead BUM. They looked like two faggots in love with each other! A DISGRACE to Boxing!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago 8
@swaggeringrebel Actually this is not a disgrace to boxing as it was not a real fight, it was just a fictional match. Go to Wikipedia and type The Super Fight, it was also released on DVD.
gam3rdx 1 month ago
@gam3rdx Actually, I never said this was a disgrace to boxing. If you go back and read my comment, I was referring to clay vs. Spinks. THAT was a DISGRACE to boxing.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
The self proclaimed "greatest" lost his belt to 26-17-3. And only the BUM'S 8th fight! Some "greatest." BWHAHAHAHAHA!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@swaggeringrebel.... only you would say that Ali is a disgrace to boxing....lol..putz!
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@vag: Are you sure? Maybe if you post it a few hundred -more- times, you repetitive moron.
lazur1 1 month ago
Many people say Marciano's best win was against Archie Moore...didn't Archie start out as a weilterwieght?
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
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Clay diagnosed with the Frazieritis - 1982. 4 years AFTER the coward struggled 30 rounds with Leon Spinks and lost his belt to the toothless crackhead BUM. Yes, 4 years AFTER. Anything that looks like Frazieritis to some of you ignorant fools is merely the results of that toothless crackhead BUM kicking clay's cowardly ass. Sorry. Can't use the Frazieritis as an excuse. Better figure out a different one.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@vag: Ok, so just in case one person out there might not think you're a moron a-hole, you decided to clear that up. Thanks: You now officially don't have a friend in the world.
lazur1 1 month ago
Of course we all know,us that know the sport...we all KNOW that Ali tromps the awkard ploddder.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
Clay diagnosed with the Frazieritis - 1982. 4 years AFTER the coward struggled 30 rounds with Leon Spinks and lost his belt to the toothless crackhead BUM. Can't use the Frazieritis as an excuse. Better figure out a different one.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@swaggeringrebel ...and Marciano dies in a plane crash after padding his record with old ,shot and light guys. Even his brother.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@Pastor: Rocky's 'wins' over his bro, (fighting under aliases), were as an amateur. The ruse was discovered, Rocky was suspended, his padded amateur record was corrected to 9-4. This raises serious doubts about Rocky being the "good guy" his fans claim: 1/Good guys don't pad records w/fake fights vs their brother using aliases. 2/ People don't change: Anyone willing to go to such extremes to pad an -amateur- record would do -anything- to get the big -pro- bucks. Rocky: Cheater, Coward , Clutz.
lazur1 1 month ago
@Vag: You're an idiot. Any normal observer can see the effects of Parkinson's on Ali 4 years before being "diagnosed". People don't just wake up one day with Parkinson's after being 100% ok the day before, you fucking moron. // Ali was a brave man, he knew if he went to a doctor to have his symptoms diagnosed, he'd never be allowed to fight again: Not a smart move, but brave. Rocky quit because his back hurt: A smart move, but not brave.
lazur1 1 month ago
not to mention most light heavies....hey RRJ beats Marciano...all day,everday, for a year! James Toney...The Klitchos...no...I was just kidding ...Marciano KOES both of those guys...:)
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@TheBastardGregory Klitschko's rule the world today racist sissyboy. Live with it.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@swaggeringrebel ..some world...but hey... Marciano could actually beat those Klitchoes......:)
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@TheBastardGregory Live with it racist.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@swaggeringrebel ...Live with what? Live with the Klitchoes can be beaten by Marciano. I jusr realized something...they are all white....does this mean...you love the Klitchoes MORE than Marciano?
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
Marciano fought in a weak era. I quess it's not his fault. From Floyd Paterson and on...EVERYBODY beats Marciano.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
EVERYBODY knows that this video is based in fiction. Of course the great Ali beats the plodder... 49 and quit!
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@TheBastorGregory Hey you racist plodder. Marciano beats the runaway coward all day, every day. Us true Boxing experts routinely recognize this. 56-5 just can't measure up to 49-0. You know NOTHING about Boxing!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@grebel ..I know this about boxing....Marciano could NEVER beat Ali. 49 and quit. Men of understanding know this. It automatic...as in no thought required. The only girl who doesn't know is you. You must be deluded...poor soul.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@TheBastardGregory Hey Miss queer, your light jabbing coward hero STRUGGLED 30 rounds with Leon Spinks. He couldn't do anything with that BUM! And only the BUM'S 8th and 9th career fights. A toothless crackhead BUM with a career record of 26-17-3. Clay lost his belt to that zero talented BUM! Marciano would've destroyed both of those clowns in the same night! BWHAHAHAHAHA! You know NOTHING sissyboy!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@swaggeringrebel ...Leon KOES Marciano. For sure, a gold medal winner. Get over it racist.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@TheBastardGregory You have shit for brains sissyboy. Marciano would put a beating on that BUM Leon Spinks worse than what Tyson did to Michael Spinks. Clay struggled 30 rounds with that talentless chump and could do NOTHING with him! Some so-called "greatest." 30 rounds granny! Did you ever even see it dumbass? 30 of some of the worst and most pathetic rounds in Boxing history. If I had paid to see that pitiful shit I would've demanded my money back!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@vag; Ali, vs Spinks, was already -4- years older than the oldest Rocky -ever- fought. Ali was already suffering from Parkinson's, & was on medication that further undermined his strength, speed, coordination, concentration & balance: You HAVE to use this part of Ali's career to make him look bad, because the rest of it looked so GOOD:-)
lazur1 1 month ago
@lazur1 ,,and I loved the Ali/Spinks fights. High Drama that only Ali could produce. The rematch was superb. The old man warming up and finding his timing and winning back the title for the third time. It was great!
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@Bastard "Great?" That BORING "fight?" I'd be more entertained watching a turtle race. One of Spinks' corner men walked out in the middle of that so-called rematch saying it was fixed. I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, both those matches with the BUM Spinks may have been set up for clay to lose the belt and then "win" it back so the coward could claim that he was a "3 time champion." Those 30 rounds sure looked like 2 BUMS not wanting to hurt each other. A DISGRACE to Boxing!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago 8
@swaggeringrebel ..yeah..I guess you didn't see that one....or any fight ever...poser troll
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@swaggeringrebel LOL this page is brilliant, that fairy clay couldnt burst a grape, coward clinch runner better suited to ballet.
shotgunshawzy 1 month ago
@shotgunshawzy ,,you're better suited to ballet....you and your pal the racist.,
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@s:I guess youngsters've never seen Ali's real fights, have no idea how invincible everyone thought Foreman was, (& he -was-), or how "past-it" we thought Ali was,(since he'd lost to Frazier, who'd lost to Foreman). AliKOForeman, was as surprising as DouglasKOTyson. Where's ballet in the Frazier/Ali fights? Nowhere: Nothing but 2 men beating the crap out of each other for 41Rs! I hope you're 8 years old, otherwise there's no excuse for your ignorance. Try watching some fight films, little boy.
lazur1 1 month ago
@shotgunshawzy Yeah, hit like a butterfly, run away like a little girl. Clay tried to talk big but today, he just shakes and quivers and shits his britches all day. LOL!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
MissAssyLassy aka TheBastardGregory aka Thelonelyshitspring aka etc etc etc etc etc = a brainless white freak tranny that hates white people.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@swaggeringrebel ..it's a shame that this forum is used to express racism. One day you can be a real man by facing the truth. The truth is Ali tromps the awkward gangster.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
didn't have to wait long.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@TheBastardGregory I long did you wait before you decided to become a racist that hates white people?
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@TheBastardGregory You know MissAssyLassy, with you being white, clay would think more highly of you if you just killed yourself.You should try to make your coward hero happy, especially in his quivering, trembling last days.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@swaggeringrebel ...the wages of sin is death.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@TheBastardGregory All the more reason for you to just go ahead and kill yourself. It would make your coward hero happy with your white ass.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
Ooh! I smell CHICKEN SHIT! Oh nevermind, it's just karen, aka lazur, the chickenshit lezbo bitch that was too scared to meet me in person because she didn't want me to bust her tender face on the sidewalk.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@Vag: Aha! More evidence that -you're- the 'no-show' chicken-shit: You were too scared to address this remark to my email. I get it: You want to look like a big shot to the other posters without clueing me in. One problem: Nobody gives a shit about you & your problems;-) // Hey, I probably saw you in Boston: Were you that grandma with the cane?
lazur1 1 month ago
If Marciano had been going all out, clay's face would've been a bloody mess as he laid there unconcious. What a bloody messterpiece!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
Of course EVERYONE knows that Ali would bust Marciano up. It would be a short contest. You can't just bore in with a sharp shooter like Ali....well you can..the price would be a self inflicted TKO. This is common knowledge...like gravity. Only those who want to cling to old ideas that no longer hold truth believe differently. These people are deluded. Many are racists.
theonlysaltspring 1 month ago
@thelonelyshitspring Speaking of racists, did you ever speak to Elijah a long time ago, (back when you weren't so ancient,) about you signing up to be a black muslim? Even though you're white, he might've let you join up with them since you hate white folks so much and you follow a fake god. They might've even allowed you to kill your white ass at one of their meetings, to demonstrate your hatred for white people. You might still can! Let me know if I can be of any help, ok?
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
"swaggercunttwatfaggottitheadnob" ..that's very creative. They say intelligent people invent words.......:)
theonlysaltspring 1 month ago
"Muhammad Ali's Great Reflexes" proves Rocky's no chance for head shots, & Ali's speed'll get him at least 2 shots to Rocky's head for every Rocky miss; but what about Rocky going to the body, a much large target, harder to evade? ARE YOU KIDDING? 1st of all, Ali was the fastest of foot, not just hands, so evasion is easy. 2nd, if he doesn't evade, it's because he CHOOSES not to: He's got Rocky timed: Rocky feels a big uppercut on his way in,every time.
lazur1 1 month ago
Marciano waas a hype to provide a white TV audience of that time what they wanted to see. Ali, of course, annilates the plodder.
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
Clay = Hit like a butterfly, run away like a little fucking girl! BWHAHAHAHA!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@vagina; Apparently, if a butterfly lands on you often enough, 37 of you will be knocked out by it:-) / It's called "boxing", otherwise known as the attempt to "hit & don't -get- hit", which is exactly what you just described with such a negative tone, which reveals that you just don't -like- boxing! Make sense.
lazur1 1 month ago
Ali was a fuckin pussy runner nuff said guy couldnt burst a grape
shotgunshawzy 1 month ago
@shotgunshawzy The fact is that the slower post-draft Ali repeatedly walked into the eye of the storm of the heaviest punchers of his era, took all they had to give, & returned fire with interest. Why don't you put up clips of -you- toughing it out while taking beatings like Ali took from Frazier for 41 rounds. Only then can you call names with any credibility.
lazur1 1 month ago
@TrailerClipsOfficial Liar.
lazur1 1 month ago
ali and all the american boxers are all pussys! the americans just buy the fights und now the russians do it! turkisch boxers are the best in the world actually, but they got payed for losing always.even our badest bopxer is better than all pussys like ali,tyson,marciano etc!!
TheTotalyFuckedup 1 month ago
@TheTotalyFuckedup You are a funny person.
seblasian 1 month ago
@TheTotalyFuckedup ..you really are TheTotalyFuckedup ....Turkish?....lol
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
Clay was a runaway coward in a very weak era. Even though in a weak era, he still got his ass beat at least 5 times!
sshitspring 1 month ago
@sshitspring weak era? you obviously dont no nothing. it was the hardest era. with legends he beat like george foreman, joe frazier, sunny liston, joe bugner and so on. he didnt go in with power like rocky. he danced with them with skill and the only reason he lost 5 times is because he just came back form jail for 3 years and was rusty. and your insulting everyone in wheelchairs you stupid gay cunt show some respect for people who are unlucky enough to be in a wheelchair and the greatest boxer
BoAMightyreds 1 month ago
@BoAPussyPink Clay's era "the hardest era?" Yeah right. Clay lost his belt to a toothless crackhead BUM that had a career record of 26-17-3. 30 rounds clay STRUGGLED with 26-17-3! 30 of some of the most boring rounds in HW Boxing history! An embarrassment to professional Boxing! Clay also faced 50 year old Archie Moore in this "hardest era." The Liston "fights" were FAKE. Hell, a 36 year old bartender knocked clay flat on his ass! Lay off the junk boy! It's made you delusional!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@swaggerFaggotbelend Get a life i mean your posting thousands of comment on 1 video which is fake and fucking rocky up the ass in his grave all day GROW UP
BoAMightyreds 1 month ago
@BoaTinyDick Hey sissyboy. Your coward hero gets his light jabbing ass kicked in this video and today, he sits in a wheelchair trembling, shaking, slobbering, quivering and shitting his britches. LOL! That's too bad! If you don't like it here sissyboy, go watch a video of clay actually winning a match. You know, like when he wins against Williams. A gut shot handicapped ain't never been. You sure as hell won't find a video of the coward winning against Rocky Marciano! BWHAHAHAHA!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@swaggercunttwatfaggottitheadnob hey no one likes you. this isnt even a real fight you retarded shit head. oh go and find a video that ali beats rocky? how it never happended fucking dumbass part of a fanboy film everyone knows ali could beat rocky. now go and jerk your 1cm dick to some gay porn
BoAMightyreds 1 month ago
@BoaTinyDick Sounds like I made you mad sissyboy. LOL! That's good. I like seeing a pussy sissyboy like you get mad. You're right dickbreath. You can't find a video of clay winning against Marciano. That's because that would be totally unbelievable! In these computer fights, Marciano beat Dempsey to lay claim to the ALL TIME GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT. Your coward hero clay was put out right away by Jeffries. This video was a favor to clay for all his crying. He wanted this, he got it!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@swaggergaybelend this proves nothing as the fight never happended. if the fight did happend muhammad ali could beat him in the 5th round. you no it fag
BoAMightyreds 1 month ago
@BoaTinyDick Listen little dick, clay couldn't even beat Leon Spinks in 15 rounds! LOL!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
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BoAMightyreds 1 month ago
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@BoaTinyDick Sounds like I made you mad sissyboy. LOL! That's good. I like seeing a pussy sissyboy like you get mad. You're right dickbreath. You can't find a video of clay winning against Marciano. That's because that would be totally unbelievable! In these computer fights, Marciano beat Dempsey to lay claim to the ALL TIME GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT. Your coward hero clay was put out right away by Jeffries. This video was a favor to clay for all his crying. He wanted this, he got it!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@vag: When Ali lost to Spinks, he's 4yrs OLDER than Rocky when Rock RETIRED. Don't get me wrong: ROCKY did the RIGHT thing, ALI made the MISTAKE of NOT retiring at 32, like Rocky did. BUT: It's BRAVELY FACING ADVERSITY, even foolishly, even in defeat, that makes a man great, not QUITTING while he's ahead, to protect his precious perfect record, taking his ball & going home. Ali was a brave but foolish man. A great man. Rocky was a strategically wise, but cowardly man. Not so great.
lazur1 1 month ago
@vag: Ali had 3 careers: 1/ PreDraft. 2/ PostDraft. 3/ PostParkinsons. Career1/ Undefeated.The fights you think are fake are still on the books as Clay/Ali wins. What you think simply doesn't matter. Career2/ Two losses, 1 vs Frazier / 1 vs Norton, each avenged -twice-. At 35, in his last bout as a healthy fighter, 3 years older than the 32 Rocky last boxed at, he beat the younger, imposing, Ernie Shavers. Career3/ Debilitated by illness, he avenged loss to Spinks, to win the title a 3rd time.
lazur1 1 month ago
@lezbochickenshitbitch Clay had 3 heads: 1/ The hollow one on his shoulders. 2/ The shriveled up one in his pants. 3/ Yours, bobbing back and forth on that shriveled up one in his pants. Look at that! I gave you 1 minute of my much sought after attention! Now chickenshit bitch, you'll just have to wait for me to decide when I want to give you any more of my time. Why, I might even feed you some of my feces!!! Happy waiting.
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@vag: You try so hard, but you can't stay away. You don't "decide" shit,vag: It wells up in you, until the pressure gets so intense that you have to get it out to keep from exploding. but it's always too late, you -do- explode, every time. That's hardly what anyone would call a "decision", you poor little girl.
lazur1 1 month ago
@lezbochickenshitbitch I don't try to "stay away" you stupid piece of chicken shit. I just choose to give YOU very limited attention because you're an ignorant chickenshit lesbian bitch. I know your lonesome dried up ass craves some attention but face it old woman, you're just old and unwanted. I bet you're so fucking ugly you don't even need a Halloween mask. BWHAHAHAHA! Relish this little bit of attention you're getting you shit eating lezbo bitch because your days ahead are LONELY!
swaggeringrebel 1 month ago
@Vag; She's back! She's back! Oh joy! More attention for ME! /// You -know- what I look like, little girl ..you saw me while you were hiding in the shadows in Boston, but you wouldn't come out and play;-)
lazur1 1 month ago
@swaggeringrebel (By the way, your response qualifies nicely as one of those "explosions" I was referring to, thanks for the evidence.)
lazur1 1 month ago
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@swaggerTINYDICK you do no your a faggot dont you? if you dont think so wake the fuck up fag
BoAMightyreds 1 month ago
"wid"...idiot......)
ThePastorGregory 1 month ago
@T:My previous post wasn't clear enough?: NO. I will NOT "shut up".GET IT? I suspect you actually knew that. In fact, you probably ENJOY these useless fake arguments. So let's keep going. It's all up to you. I promise to never tell YOU to "shut up". Do you have the honesty & discipline to shut yourSELF up? You obviously have nothing to say about Marciano or Ali, & find me to be much more fascinating than they are, so SURE, keep talking about ME, if you want to., you fucking idiot.
lazur1 1 month ago