i live here in toronto a nd th ese new hybrid buses (not sure if this is the same kinda one) are always being towed away or stuck with 4ways on at the side of the road...never recall seeing the old gm fishbowls break down this much.
My 2 cents. These 2006 Old-Gen hybrids should be pulled for the winter until this is resolved as many critics think it's crap. It's been crap since the 94xx CNG tanks in 1997 when TTC is short of buses, so they ended up borrowing the 35 Utah Fishbowls.
Anyone can think, they should borrow 80 D40LFs from Edmonton or lease em.
@TTCOrionVII8100 Until our Novas arrive this problem wont be solved. if I wass Giambrone I would go and get Novas like, NOW, and use them to replace the entire fleet of Orions, and also use life-extension on the D40LFs so they have a same lifetime as the Fishbowls. Like that idea?
But unfortunately, I'm not Giambrone, and on top of this, YRT went on strike :(
That is the reason why they want an old bus, like a leyland lynx, Same story with First (uk: leeds) Allmost all of the new fleet of busses that they bought from Volvo broke down within the first day!!!!
@1985jon I know it hurts not being at an average intelligence level. There are special programs to help developmentally challenged people, or in your case idiots, such as yourself. Have fun listening to Britney since you know so much about her. Good luck with your sad life. By the way, there is no such word "quere".
@1985jon I know working at McDonald's isnt fun, but when you don't stay in school,(which you obviously haven't--or you have a mental problem where you get older, but you have the mentality of someone younger) it's the only type of unskilled work you can find. poor fool.
@1985jon Let me get this straight, 'jon', he's a fag for not knowing who Britney Spears is?? so, if you're straight, you must know and love britney. your grammar is juvenile ( you can look that word up, you should see your photo beside it) and all the cursing usually tells me, lack of education and or maturity. grow the fuck up, dipshit. Oh, and for the record, if you're going to reference someone in a "come back", at least make sure you get their name right?? BRITNEY not brittany. Genius
@1985jon are you STUPID DID YOU EVER LEARN ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY IN SCHOOL GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND LEARN GO BACK TO FIRST GRADE FOOL
@nicksorg106 must be coming from someone with no mechanical knowledge whatsoever... its not always about maintaing something... nowadays theres so much computer related components on buses and such that shit just goes wrong.. these things can be inspected with a microscope and not ten mins later be in this same posistion. not saying maintnence doesn't prevent some things but lots of shit just happens and theres nothing that normal maintence would help.
@nicksorg106 You'd think it'd be that easy. Publicly funded transit system that is outdated and in serious need of infrastructure up grades (to say the least). It was good 30 years ago. a model almost. now a days it's in need of a few bandaids., .i think even the province has cut fu nding. not sure. from what i heard in the ttc's defence, those hybrid buses are shit. usually ttc has buses that run. the old gms were amazing.
Also wait til you find out about SEPTA's newest DE40LF,they are slow and it can't go fast and SEPTA won't fix them nither and they are having isses as well and yet they are replacing the 1996-1997 NABI 40SFW,this will case a storage issue wehen those new DE40LF get put of service,people and drivers are complaining about them going slow,hybrid have proven to be junk and be worst fuel ever!!! thats what i heard about SEPTA new DE40LF and its true.
It looks like the TTC is bringing the GM New Looks back into service. I have seen a lot of them on the 168 Symington route. Those are good buses. Too bad they stopped making them.
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I really don't see the point in a hybrid bus. Go with natural gas like D.C. METRO buses. They're a lot cleaner than any bus running on diesel...even a diesel hybrid
It was the battery problem that plagued most of TTC's Orion VII NG and Original Hybrid buses. They are due to be replaced and get Lithium Ion batteries.
The TTC shouldn't have bought buses from Orion as their Orion VIIs have a lot of problems and the hybrids are turning out to be a scam as the fuel savings are only 10%. What they should have bought was longer articulated buses that Vancouver, Ottawa and Mississauga have in their fleets which can deal with overcrowding. Articulated buses can be fuel efficient assuming you fill an entire articulated bus to capacity
those hybrid bus's seem to break down alot, why is that? thinks they need to take all hybrid bus's out of service till they can make it so it will not break down. is it gas & electric?
The problem is that the batteries have a major flaw: Their not llasting a full 5 years as predicted.
TTC relied too heavily on NYC's MTA expreience before pruchasing these. only diffrence between T.O. and NYC: New York Orion 7NG hybrids travel trough more stop and go traffic. T.O still has some stop and go traffic, they use up the batteries quicker due to long, straight, up and down ravine avenues we have
@eh4891 Old engine's where more efficient not they burn more fuel but no one gives a dawm beccause they only care about emission. Most mechanics say that new engine 2007-present are mostly junk, since they don't work properly like old engine's use to. Anyways they should make the bus run on Elizabeth May's farts.
i live here in toronto a nd th ese new hybrid buses (not sure if this is the same kinda one) are always being towed away or stuck with 4ways on at the side of the road...never recall seeing the old gm fishbowls break down this much.
bababooey7576 5 months ago
My 2 cents. These 2006 Old-Gen hybrids should be pulled for the winter until this is resolved as many critics think it's crap. It's been crap since the 94xx CNG tanks in 1997 when TTC is short of buses, so they ended up borrowing the 35 Utah Fishbowls.
Anyone can think, they should borrow 80 D40LFs from Edmonton or lease em.
TTCOrionVII8100 5 months ago
@TTCOrionVII8100 Until our Novas arrive this problem wont be solved. if I wass Giambrone I would go and get Novas like, NOW, and use them to replace the entire fleet of Orions, and also use life-extension on the D40LFs so they have a same lifetime as the Fishbowls. Like that idea?
But unfortunately, I'm not Giambrone, and on top of this, YRT went on strike :(
GordonFreemanD40 3 months ago
is this an ex lancs a1 volvo?
cakesweetschocolate 6 months ago
That is the reason why they want an old bus, like a leyland lynx, Same story with First (uk: leeds) Allmost all of the new fleet of busses that they bought from Volvo broke down within the first day!!!!
TheSoxmania 7 months ago
ttctae, do you work for the TTC?
1torontofan 1 year ago
@1torontofan No, i do not
ttctae 1 year ago
@ttctae It's just as I said to you before, you always happen to be at the right place at the right time when these things happen. Great work.
1torontofan 1 year ago
ok WE TORONTONIANS NEED NEW FLYER BUSES! GIVE US D40/60LFRs OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!
GordonFreemanD40 1 year ago
WE TORONTONIANS NEED D40LFRs LETS PROTEST!
GordonFreemanD40 1 year ago
@GordonFreemanD40 and 60 ft buses, who cares if you cant keep jobs in ontario by only using Orion 60 ft buses are needed.
g4tech 1 year ago
@1985jon I know it hurts not being at an average intelligence level. There are special programs to help developmentally challenged people, or in your case idiots, such as yourself. Have fun listening to Britney since you know so much about her. Good luck with your sad life. By the way, there is no such word "quere".
bababooey7576 1 year ago
@1985jon I know working at McDonald's isnt fun, but when you don't stay in school,(which you obviously haven't--or you have a mental problem where you get older, but you have the mentality of someone younger) it's the only type of unskilled work you can find. poor fool.
bababooey7576 1 year ago
@1985jon Let me get this straight, 'jon', he's a fag for not knowing who Britney Spears is?? so, if you're straight, you must know and love britney. your grammar is juvenile ( you can look that word up, you should see your photo beside it) and all the cursing usually tells me, lack of education and or maturity. grow the fuck up, dipshit. Oh, and for the record, if you're going to reference someone in a "come back", at least make sure you get their name right?? BRITNEY not brittany. Genius
bababooey7576 1 year ago
Those buses seem to breakdown alot put the D901s and MCIs back on the road!
GTAfan8850 1 year ago
i bet the GO bus drivers were feeling pretty smug about that. XD
TTC8111 1 year ago
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MrRocknrollheaven 1 year ago
@1985jon violent people like you should be taken off youtube and put in jail
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@1985jon IF YOU CALL ME A FAG 1 MORE TIME YOU WILL BE REPORTED AGAIN SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE A FAG
liferocknroll 1 year ago
@1985jon YOU KNOW WHAT FUCK YOU
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@1985jon I WILL NOT SAY
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@1985JON I WILL KEEP YELLING AT YOU YOU SICK BASTARD
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@1985jon you will be reported
liferocknroll 1 year ago
@1985jon are you STUPID DID YOU EVER LEARN ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY IN SCHOOL GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND LEARN GO BACK TO FIRST GRADE FOOL
liferocknroll 1 year ago
@1985jon
Because of one thing, the EPA.
jmjfanss 1 year ago
NOT a New flyer. It's an Orion VII Hybrid...
macmcseboy 1 year ago
We have Gillig hybrids. They're real nice.
mpwelk 1 year ago
damn thot i could recognize where that is in toronto. guess not.
bababooey7576 2 years ago
What's that Orion VII doing there in the background?
1234567890455 2 years ago
maybe it has to stop there....
TGXtrucker 2 years ago
You can see that it's turned off.
1234567890455 2 years ago
ya, i think that's because the 1532 was there for a long time, when is a stopped car in front of you for a long time you stop the engine
TGXtrucker 2 years ago
sittin & lookin pretty? :P
kissarmyrules 1 year ago
subtle hint to bus company. Get the mechanicics to maintain the buses...that way they don't break down.
Simples
nicksorg106 2 years ago 13
@nicksorg106 must be coming from someone with no mechanical knowledge whatsoever... its not always about maintaing something... nowadays theres so much computer related components on buses and such that shit just goes wrong.. these things can be inspected with a microscope and not ten mins later be in this same posistion. not saying maintnence doesn't prevent some things but lots of shit just happens and theres nothing that normal maintence would help.
mattp1482 1 year ago 3
@nicksorg106 You'd think it'd be that easy. Publicly funded transit system that is outdated and in serious need of infrastructure up grades (to say the least). It was good 30 years ago. a model almost. now a days it's in need of a few bandaids., .i think even the province has cut fu nding. not sure. from what i heard in the ttc's defence, those hybrid buses are shit. usually ttc has buses that run. the old gms were amazing.
bababooey7576 1 year ago
@nicksorg106 all buses break down at some point. Doesn't matter how well they are maintained
Poison1Monkey 1 year ago
@nicksorg106 before giving wise cracks, make sure they are worth it. They already might be doing it. Dont assume things on behalf of others..
ullasrajchellappan1 1 week ago
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Sounds like a swedish gas bus
fontheking5 2 years ago
Also wait til you find out about SEPTA's newest DE40LF,they are slow and it can't go fast and SEPTA won't fix them nither and they are having isses as well and yet they are replacing the 1996-1997 NABI 40SFW,this will case a storage issue wehen those new DE40LF get put of service,people and drivers are complaining about them going slow,hybrid have proven to be junk and be worst fuel ever!!! thats what i heard about SEPTA new DE40LF and its true.
s88Limitedbus 2 years ago
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This is what you get for going green.
Hybrid break down everyday,I think they should have ordered a Diesel version of Orion VII NG and NOT Hybrid.
Diesel= Best fueling bus ever and better then any other fuel buses.
Hybrid= Cheap Piece of crap!
s88Limitedbus 2 years ago
Damn..the NG's are breakin down already??
breberz 2 years ago
yes
metroktransit 2 years ago
The TTC should order the New Flyer D40LFR's again.
VprPlyr14 2 years ago 3
How many of the Hybrid buses of TTC breaks down?
baul104 2 years ago
It looks like the TTC is bringing the GM New Looks back into service. I have seen a lot of them on the 168 Symington route. Those are good buses. Too bad they stopped making them.
DigitalImagesToront 2 years ago 4
Its so sad that New Flyer D40HFs(6400s) and GM/MCI Classic 6200s are gone over these breakdown buses.
qwandiddy 3 years ago 7
The TTC bought these buses way too quickly. At least let them work out all the bugs and glitches first.
TKnHappyNess 3 years ago 5
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I really don't see the point in a hybrid bus. Go with natural gas like D.C. METRO buses. They're a lot cleaner than any bus running on diesel...even a diesel hybrid
PIchillin456 3 years ago
This bus has 2 drive trains: the diesel engine and the electric propulsion motor. Both have to be working at the same time. I own a Hybrid car.
trailways7 3 years ago 2
I'm so glad Queensway Div does not have these piles of GARBAGE!!
Long Live the D40LF's (7300's)
buschic 3 years ago 5
It was the battery problem that plagued most of TTC's Orion VII NG and Original Hybrid buses. They are due to be replaced and get Lithium Ion batteries.
Great Catch, Awesome Vid!
Caitsith810 3 years ago 3
It's dead. Get the TTC to call the Pep Boys!!
streetcarjay 3 years ago
The TTC shouldn't have bought buses from Orion as their Orion VIIs have a lot of problems and the hybrids are turning out to be a scam as the fuel savings are only 10%. What they should have bought was longer articulated buses that Vancouver, Ottawa and Mississauga have in their fleets which can deal with overcrowding. Articulated buses can be fuel efficient assuming you fill an entire articulated bus to capacity
jackiechan511 3 years ago
those hybrid bus's seem to break down alot, why is that? thinks they need to take all hybrid bus's out of service till they can make it so it will not break down. is it gas & electric?
TiffBabe07 3 years ago
Man, Put those GM/ MCI Classics 6200s back on the road, Hybrid Sucks!!!!! And no wonder TTC still has bunch of good ol Fishbowls alive.
qwandiddy 3 years ago
yeah but the fishbowls are going to retire
WiiGlitchHunter 2 years ago
That's good TTC still have some of there GM Fishbowl as reserve buses. Fishbowls has always been a reliable bus for years & years
metroktransit 2 years ago
Go to Edmonton, some of their Fishbowls are still active that are over 30 years old.
qwandiddy 2 years ago
The problem is that the batteries have a major flaw: Their not llasting a full 5 years as predicted.
TTC relied too heavily on NYC's MTA expreience before pruchasing these. only diffrence between T.O. and NYC: New York Orion 7NG hybrids travel trough more stop and go traffic. T.O still has some stop and go traffic, they use up the batteries quicker due to long, straight, up and down ravine avenues we have
VprPlyr14 3 years ago
That's very ture way too much stop & go in NYC.
metroktransit 2 years ago
Modern Junk, get an old bus!
eh4891 3 years ago 16
I know, put the D901 Flyers back on the road
qwandiddy 3 years ago 7
those and especially the D40-90's
newyorkfan16 2 years ago
I agree on that
metroktransit 2 years ago
@eh4891 Old engine's where more efficient not they burn more fuel but no one gives a dawm beccause they only care about emission. Most mechanics say that new engine 2007-present are mostly junk, since they don't work properly like old engine's use to. Anyways they should make the bus run on Elizabeth May's farts.
CPR9818 9 months ago
Oh I see
Subway261994 3 years ago
In august 2008
ttctae 3 years ago
Are you Talking about the Bus or the Video?
ttctae 3 years ago
@ttctae Probably the bus.
Bus7777 1 year ago
it's one of the newest buses from 2008
67jamo 3 years ago
Awesome footage! Seems like this is common, eh? Lol. Hopefully we won't be in the same situation as you guys are having with your hybrids. Haha!
newflyer800 3 years ago 2
What do Hybrids run off of?
Subway261994 3 years ago
electricity
67jamo 3 years ago
I think water, or electric heavy volt battery
hilfansrock 3 years ago
was it towed back to the garage?
g4tech 3 years ago
Yes it was towed Later at night
ttctae 3 years ago
@g4tech no, it was towed to the farm cuz thts where TTC parks and fixes the buses.
Evanforevertill2012 1 year ago