I was too young to experience the Good Life movement back when ...but I'm 26 and i've always been a lover of hip hop and jazz, thank god i discovered freestyle fellowship! huge fan
For all of you saying why can't hip hop be good, and complaining about rappers now, these guys are STILL making excellent music. If you really appreciate these artists, support them NOW, don't just lament the past. Peace!
The Golden Age of hip hop is behind us! Miss the early 90s, best rap music came out than. Now it's just not the same and a lot of acts are just plain bad.
When this joint first arrived I remember running home from school to catch Rap City when it was the shit*, to record it on my VHS. And played it over and over again. This was truly art! Today's cats dont even come close nor compare to something this pure. "innercity boundaries" and "park bench people" set the standard and my personal favs.
the real mother fuckin hip hop im sick of these fuckin goofs frontin like they rock mics now adays little punks ass marks who sound like mosquitoes and changin there voices to sound like gay robots not to mention the same concepts used over and over again in the songs.acey/self/mikah u are true mc.s
wondering why we don't see this kind of quality anymore? drugs. the record making machine (welcome to the machine!). a post-literate culture of music-purchasers. decadence. sin. soul-numbness.
@verticalhold You're blaming drugs for the alleged downfall of music? That's silly, especially considering one of their best songs is about marijuana.
We aren't degrading, music isn't getting worse. This wasn't a big hit at all. The good artists of today aren't big either, things haven't changed
@DrStyleOmatic - first of all, it depends on where you are in drug use. You can do drugs for quite awhile before they really start to effect you - i'm a performing artist and a former drug addict, and i counsel people in addiction, all of which have given me my perspective concerning these things. and second of all, i didn't just blame drugs..i mentioned a list. and in one sense i agree with you, music is still the same - it's all mostly from the soul, not from the Spirit.
@verticalhold Drugs are a vague term, the differences between weed, lsd and say cocaine on a person (or indeed a musician) are huge. You can hardly say lsd has had a detrimental effect on music, the FF smokes a lot and it hasn't really hurt them.
Also, music as good as this is still produced. Myka 9's album from last year is amazing. There's been no time in history where quality has ruled the public attention, people just have that perception becuase only the great things live on.
@fictionnation You are correct Sir. In fact not long after Eazy started watching the Good Life MC's, his proteges Bone Thugs n Harmony showed up on the scene, with a flow incredibly similar to Mykah 9.... Also The Black Eyed Peas, who also got their start at The Good Life, were originally signed to Ruthless Records, Eazy-E's record label....
@ccants Mikah Nine is at 1:12 - he's just the best. Rumors he ghost wrote for N.W.A - Cube and Easy frequented The Good Life Cafe to watch them perform.
man last freestyle fellowship song i peeped there was 8 dislikes same as this shit. what the fuck are people thinking must be the same lil wayne dick ridin goons who dont know shit about REAL hip-hop. im a white boi but i know whats good. and i dont pretend im black or nothing, bot cmon,. theres nothing that compares the this. if a soong gives you goosebumps you know that shits tight cause your body and mind just know
Hip Hop has always been there (and still is), so has mainstream. Nothing has changed, there will always be artists and money hungry business men/women. choose wisely holey man!
i love when he says "i gotta be rightous i gotta be me, i gotta be concious, i gotta be free..." Mykas voice is perfect. FF forever! Welcome back legends of the underground.
EVERYTHING to do with bone thugs n harmony or whatever the fuck they're called. Eazy-E used to jock these dudes nuts at the GoodLife all fuckin day back in the mid to late 80's.
you dont know what you're talking about, shut the fuck up ahhaha
Not that I want to get in a huge argument about it cuz you're right, it is old and tired but the fast-rap style is not even the style in question. It's the way Bone SUDDENLY blended their harmonies in a stream-of-conscious type flow and flexed their voices exactly like Good Lifers, especially Myka 9. Just compare Krayzie Bone's verse on Crossroads to Myka's verse on Mary and tell me they don't almost sound like the same person... he even tries to sound like Myka.
Well, I've hear many rappers, underground and mainstream that have similar voice styles. Here's one example... 2Pac and Black Haze, compare, try to figure the difference. Anyway, I'm a Myka9 fan, and yes, I understand what you're saying. I've been listening to Freestyle Fellowship, and their solo stuff since mid-90s, and similarities always come up afloat, just like other rappers styles that are also similar.
The difference however is when asked Blac Haze doesn't deny that he was heavily influenced by 2pac. Bone will completely deny Freestyle Fellowship had any influence on their music.
I don't really pay attention to differences between sub-genres and sub-styles.. they are a waste of time in my mind. It's all just music to me. I classify certain things in my own mind but I don't break everything down into genre.
And I'm also not sure I completely understand the question, are you asking the difference between scat singing and chopped rapping?
Leave it at what? That generally implies that a point was made and I'm not sure you made one lol. What do Jazz Rap and Scat have to do with Bone biting Freestyle Fellowship?
You seriously think FF was just Jazz rap? What have you listened to like 3 of their songs? This shit is not scat, it's freestyle rap.. they are both improvisational but very different. Maybe they pulled a few things from scat but overall freestyle rap is it's own entity from scat.
FF had TONS of styles other than just jazz rap.. have you ever listened to To Whom It May Concern all the way through? They don't sound exactly the same on any track, even just the jazz.
I've been listening to Freestyle Fellowship since 1989. They did a whole lot of unreleased songs, back in the day, that I've never seen here that were fully Jazz.
Scat, do you even know what is scat? Do you even know WHEN it got evolved? Tell you this much, Scat is over a 100 years, and it was basically improvising (freestyling). FF dropped that style around 93-ish.
Fully jazz? Homie even the shit Acey and Myka dropped in 88 as Music over Minds wasn't fully jazz.. the track 'It's Fatal' sounds like a more lyrical Run DMC rather than anything jazz. they have NEVER been just jazz, EVER.
And Scat and freestyle rap are not that same.. Scat is honestly mostly garbage.. only a select few were good at it. Freestyle rap is more structured and tends to make more sense as its more wordy but still very free as far as language.
I love how you try to be as non-specific as possible and ignore all my points. You've heard all these unreleased FF tracks, but haven't named one. I've named specific examples for every point I've made. I'm not trying to be a dick, I just don't see what point you're trying to make. Bone stole shit without giving credit, you can still like their music.. hell, I like some of it. I just don't respect them, but that doesn't mean anything to them anyway.
I'm not ignoring your points, you're turning things in other directions from every of my comments. Frankly, if that goes on after ONE comment, an things goes mixed-up from the person I'm speaking to..... I loose interest in talking.
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Freestyle Fellowship and Bone Thugs... 2 different styles, that's the last I will say. I'm not going to sit here and get replies of someone twisting each of my comments. I'm not trying to be a dick either, just so you know.
Anyway, this shouldn't matter at all, and I'm definitely not trying to show-off, or look a step ahead, but I did experienced FF live in the 80s, even Myka and Acey. Find someone my age who lived the 80s with a notion, and they will tell you, one local appearance was nothing but Jazz music.
I don't doubt that you saw them live and I'm glad you did. I also don't doubt they did jazz-oriented stuff because that was a big section of what they contributed to hip hop and is made for live shows. But it was hardly all they contributed to hip hop was my point. I don't expect everyone to understand this, I am admittedly a huge FF fanboy and do have my own biases.
I do however expect Bone to give proper respect to who birthed their rap careers.
I understand what you're telling me.... and once again, the Jazz stuff was something that they got rid off with time, even to not use it so much. This is what I said on a previous comment, just re-worded. Even during their last as a group, they had dropped it virtually completely.
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...and once again, I've heard a bunch of mainstream and underground rappers or emcees that have similar voices and styles, some even seemed mirrored, even in the 80s.
Yeah but Bone sounded completely different on Faces of Death, their first recorded album that was not produced by Eazy. They didn't have the same type of musical style at all.. so you're tellin me they get this westcoast producer and all the sudden start sounding eerily similar to this innovative rap group that is from the EXACT same place as Eazy.. and you want me to believe that's just coincidence? I highly doubt it.
The similarities have nothing to do with how fast or slow they rap so it's an irrelevant question. The similarities are in the layered harmonic flows, the way they flex their voices, and the stream-of-conscious (albeit a less intelligent one) way they let their words go.
Faces of Death was hugely underdeveloped musically compared to their other stuff. It's not about the speed of rap, it's about the way they approached the tracks and their whole sound.
There used to be an LA local duo named "Double Layered," they ran through with no label, and self-recorded their stuff in their garage, this was 1983. Now guess what?
They rapped "fast" and did the "harmony" thing. Only difference is, they did 2-Tone rhythms.
I never said FF were the first group to rap fast or do harmonies. I am saying Bone's whole sound switched immediately from sounding nothing like FF to sounding A LOT like FF seemingly overnight once they were produced by Eazy. They didn't just have "harmonies", they had the signature Myka 9-Freestyle Fellowship style of harmony and rap. You want me to believe that's simply a coincidence. I don't think it is. This is where the core of our disagreement lies.
Well, in that case, Freestyle Fellowship copied Double Layered,
and to this date, haven't heard FF say anything about DL, and since FF sounds way to simliat to DL... they copied and never game them credit.
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There used to be a trio hip hop group named Jamay Ka, from Orange County, they actually did gigs with Double Layered. They did the harmony styling, and, they did the Jamaican thing. If BTNH copied anyone... then they copied Jamay Ka, based on the Jamaica-Patois style BTNH had.
Way to use circular reasoning... I can almost guarantee you that Double Layered sounded nothing like Myka 9 on 7th Seal... nobody had ever heard anyone rap like that before, that's why FF are underground legends and nobody's heard of double layered. You're trying to compare some group that recorded out of their garage to one of the most influential hip hop groups of all time? Nobody's even heard them.
You can justify it all you want, the facts don't lie.
What a way of bashing against yourself, congratulations.
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Myka 9, 7th Seal, Freestyle Fellowship knew exactly who Double Layer is (was). I found Freestyle Fellowship and feel in love with their music when they did a gig with Double Layer. Double layer was out before Freestyle Fellowship, Myka9 or 7th Seal. We're talking about a due who started out in the 70s.
Homie, it's obvious you have no idea what you're even talking about. If FF did a gig with double layered, obviously there is mutual respect between them. Meaning if FF did pull anything from double layered, they gave proper respect to them. My problem is not with Bone being influenced by FF.. my problem is that they deny they were influenced by them even while trying to sound exactly like them. Your argument is done cuz you never had one.
Love this album,remember buyin it after Hip-Hop connection mag did a big thing on them,and hammered the s**t outta ma stereo with it,the whole street was singing ''Shammys''....ya gotta put that 1 on,proper dope track,,loved it,....'''
Peace to the whole South L.A. and Leimert Park!!!!
canibusnj 3 weeks ago
dam this is tight
Hubahubatime 1 month ago
lol the guy with the glasses reminds me of kanye west 1:22
42stackz 1 month ago
OMFG THEYRE FUCKING SCAT RAPPING
DoughbeezyShorts 2 months ago
Absolute classic. Took me years to realize Aceyalone was down with them.
misermania 2 months ago
"Not a tad bit 'fraid of change, look around it's the same ol' same ol' thang "
Clearly, he knew Obama was gonna be elected.
wwaxwingcrashh 3 months ago
i feel in hiphop heaven please don't wake me
Skymusic45 3 months ago
Damn this is still dope! Can't get tired like today's crap. What happen to the Underground Railroad, the backup band?
DidiT1979 3 months ago
DAMN!!..didn't know Jupiter passed!..that hurts.
skrilladog888 3 months ago
@skrilladog888 Jupiter did not pass. I'm going to see Fellowship perform tonight.
JimmyJumpDaThird 3 months ago
One of them sounds like a Sesame Street character lol. Shit is dope though.
FibrousAcquiescence 3 months ago 2
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OfficialGangstaMusik 3 months ago
Hall of Fame classic!
astron33 4 months ago
"A race we call BLACK"
plasmametroid 4 months ago
THUMBS UP IF YOU REMEMBER THIS FROM "STRAPPED"
MrDenaliking 4 months ago 10
takes me back
thedemi78 4 months ago
I will have a very tough time explaining to my kids that artists not only used to be talented, but also had class.
theatlantisrise 5 months ago 2
I was too young to experience the Good Life movement back when ...but I'm 26 and i've always been a lover of hip hop and jazz, thank god i discovered freestyle fellowship! huge fan
cynthcity 6 months ago 2
first verse is shite but love this song
danKelee 6 months ago
Love Micah Nine, and Freestyle Fellowship!!! Good times at Good Life in L,A.
lgreybull 6 months ago
For all of you saying why can't hip hop be good, and complaining about rappers now, these guys are STILL making excellent music. If you really appreciate these artists, support them NOW, don't just lament the past. Peace!
suledrake 7 months ago 4
The Golden Age of hip hop is behind us! Miss the early 90s, best rap music came out than. Now it's just not the same and a lot of acts are just plain bad.
Majortom71 9 months ago
who is the second guy that flows?
HMCollective 9 months ago
myka 9@HMCollective
failure269 9 months ago
if hip hop was still this good, it would not be a billion dollas industry..
ColeOnly777 9 months ago
Hitunes
cubbbbby 9 months ago
is this freestyle?
kevanlukk 10 months ago
@kevanlukk no its a song but they freestyle alot and its real freestyle thus the name
therealsupermonk 9 months ago
i gotta be righteous i gotta be me, i gotta concious i gotta to be free.... ive been singing that all motha fuckn day.
WhatssGolden 10 months ago 4
ahead of theit time
xpoondiggy 10 months ago
Love me some Aceyalone..Got both of his solo joints, lol...
AGoodWomanDiji 11 months ago
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AlienNationRadio 10 months ago
I was 3 when this came out and I love it..
MrMike5368 11 months ago
nice...
parisnycons 11 months ago
Now this is some real hiphop!!
IceManLikeGervin 1 year ago
Meet Mikah-9 in Austin at Flamingo Cantina :-D Cool den a mug
omarrn28 1 year ago
my first time hearin this song. and i already love it.
remo2009 1 year ago
Apparently 9 people in 344 have no taste in good musice
booradley187 1 year ago
the fellowship and the pharcyde all the way baby,still now to this day are amazing
ADZ23774 1 year ago
the fellowship and the pharcyde all the way baby
ADZ23774 1 year ago
I hang out with Aceyalone and his daughter. R.I.P Jupiter
NarutoLova1999 1 year ago
@NarutoLova1999 He's still alive...
AlienNationRadio 1 year ago
I hang out with Aceyalone and his daughter.
NarutoLova1999 1 year ago
This is something special
Alltru4u 1 year ago
When this came out, people weren't ready for it!! Freestyle Fellowship was one of rap/jazz music's underrated groups.
djdrizzae 1 year ago
I wonder if The People Under the Stairs or L.A. Mike ever visited the good life cafe' ?
spsnova 1 year ago
When this joint first arrived I remember running home from school to catch Rap City when it was the shit*, to record it on my VHS. And played it over and over again. This was truly art! Today's cats dont even come close nor compare to something this pure. "innercity boundaries" and "park bench people" set the standard and my personal favs.
Peace yall
bigwhoa76 1 year ago
the real mother fuckin hip hop im sick of these fuckin goofs frontin like they rock mics now adays little punks ass marks who sound like mosquitoes and changin there voices to sound like gay robots not to mention the same concepts used over and over again in the songs.acey/self/mikah u are true mc.s
GORYAWARRIA 1 year ago
why can't hiphop/rap be this good still? why do we have to dig underground for good hiphop,,
Madvillain100 1 year ago 34
@Madvillain100 cause diggin is fun.
snubbs741 10 months ago
@Madvillain100 The almighty dollar has muted good music and record companies are pimps. Unfortunately the artist and us are it's hoes.
islandmanmikep 6 months ago
@Madvillain100 because drake and lil wayne :'(
garrrrrrrrettttttttt 3 weeks ago
wow...this is truly art
Tempo2010 1 year ago
TIGHT!!!!
lostcaused 1 year ago
sexy sax
BlahBluBlu69 1 year ago
I love this!!! please bring hip hop back
cory3636 1 year ago
Peep , Beats by Wallace Green
Mika nine the most original flows.
illone1981 1 year ago
wondering why we don't see this kind of quality anymore? drugs. the record making machine (welcome to the machine!). a post-literate culture of music-purchasers. decadence. sin. soul-numbness.
verticalhold 1 year ago
@verticalhold thats good shit
MaxBassBoost 1 year ago
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@verticalhold haha thats good shit
MaxBassBoost 1 year ago
@verticalhold You're blaming drugs for the alleged downfall of music? That's silly, especially considering one of their best songs is about marijuana.
We aren't degrading, music isn't getting worse. This wasn't a big hit at all. The good artists of today aren't big either, things haven't changed
DrStyleOmatic 1 year ago
@DrStyleOmatic - first of all, it depends on where you are in drug use. You can do drugs for quite awhile before they really start to effect you - i'm a performing artist and a former drug addict, and i counsel people in addiction, all of which have given me my perspective concerning these things. and second of all, i didn't just blame drugs..i mentioned a list. and in one sense i agree with you, music is still the same - it's all mostly from the soul, not from the Spirit.
verticalhold 1 year ago
@verticalhold Drugs are a vague term, the differences between weed, lsd and say cocaine on a person (or indeed a musician) are huge. You can hardly say lsd has had a detrimental effect on music, the FF smokes a lot and it hasn't really hurt them.
Also, music as good as this is still produced. Myka 9's album from last year is amazing. There's been no time in history where quality has ruled the public attention, people just have that perception becuase only the great things live on.
DrStyleOmatic 1 year ago
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verticalhold 1 year ago
yo, freestyle fellowship are in thay own zone, can't be compared to anyone els
ACKOFFICAL 1 year ago
inner city griots might be the most underrated album of the 90's
readybeeill 1 year ago
@fictionnation You are correct Sir. In fact not long after Eazy started watching the Good Life MC's, his proteges Bone Thugs n Harmony showed up on the scene, with a flow incredibly similar to Mykah 9.... Also The Black Eyed Peas, who also got their start at The Good Life, were originally signed to Ruthless Records, Eazy-E's record label....
faxetenpercent 1 year ago
@faxetenpercent I had heard that the Black Eyed Peas were signed to Ruthless but I thought it was just a rumor..that's interesting, I think.
Dramacydal18 1 year ago
Sick-ass headnodic beat, fresh rhymes! So dope! I miss the 90's!
cloudsteppaPL 1 year ago
Puff Daddy and Master P happened to hip hop
marcus242 1 year ago
whos the dude at 1:12 the way he uses his flow is almost like scatting in jazz....unbelievable
ccants 1 year ago
@ccants Mikah Nine is at 1:12 - he's just the best. Rumors he ghost wrote for N.W.A - Cube and Easy frequented The Good Life Cafe to watch them perform.
fictionnation 1 year ago
@fictionnation wow amazing
ccants 1 year ago
man last freestyle fellowship song i peeped there was 8 dislikes same as this shit. what the fuck are people thinking must be the same lil wayne dick ridin goons who dont know shit about REAL hip-hop. im a white boi but i know whats good. and i dont pretend im black or nothing, bot cmon,. theres nothing that compares the this. if a soong gives you goosebumps you know that shits tight cause your body and mind just know
519bdotgangsta 1 year ago
Hip Hop has always been there (and still is), so has mainstream. Nothing has changed, there will always be artists and money hungry business men/women. choose wisely holey man!
clASicOner 1 year ago
What happened to heroin?
envelopevil 1 year ago
THIS IS FANTASTIC!! BECAUSE THE IS CANGED..... I LOVE RAP OLD SCHOOL AND RAP / JAZZ............BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO REAL HIP HOP !?!?
Peace!
TheAnastrofe 1 year ago
i wouldnt worry, its just a fad. good rap will come back but its up to us to change the market and stop buying shit rap
friendo15 1 year ago
I was born and raised in South Central L.A. and never knew these cats were from there until a decade later. Man I need my ghetto pass revoked! SMH
2003MARSSKILLS 1 year ago
@2003MARSSKILLS
Did you ever hear of the Good Life Cafe back in the 90's? That's where they hung out.
CrowdPleeza 1 year ago
i love when he says "i gotta be rightous i gotta be me, i gotta be concious, i gotta be free..." Mykas voice is perfect. FF forever! Welcome back legends of the underground.
CalizonaFilms 1 year ago
I'm french, could you explain me why you write: emcees and not MC?
Isn't MC the acronym for Master of Ceremony ?
TeeloSeyna 1 year ago
@TeeloSeyna Je crois que c'est juste pour écrire comment ca se prononce "emcees" c'est comme de la phonétique
Dblast1234 1 year ago
this song never gets old.
thanape 1 year ago 17
@thanape Yup! There is NOT a song in the entire UNIVERSE, that can touch this joint. Beyond "Classic". INFINITELY CO-CREATED, Peace!
TRUTHWILLMANIFEST 1 year ago
that's the opposite of alle the commercial Hip Hop nowadays...
back to the roots...
funkeerhythm 1 year ago
myka 9 is so sexy. sad i had to miss FF this year at paid dues :(
cubarican91 1 year ago
Ahhhhhh...yes.....*kicks back puts up feet*
noirtriptyline 1 year ago
this video showed me what true hip hop was about
motfubb 1 year ago
weird.. the rhymes in the first minute reminded me a lot of sonny rollins
snubbs741 1 year ago
the midwest owns fast rap
Armondbc 1 year ago
EVERYTHING to do with bone thugs n harmony or whatever the fuck they're called. Eazy-E used to jock these dudes nuts at the GoodLife all fuckin day back in the mid to late 80's.
you dont know what you're talking about, shut the fuck up ahhaha
ConiferTreez 1 year ago
See them at Paid Dues April 3!
jordan10304 1 year ago
Shits going to be siiick!
AlienNationRadio 1 year ago
bone stole this style
TheBonethugshype 1 year ago
@TheBonethugshype :
In that case Freestyle Fellowshop stole styles from prior fast-rap acts...
Stop with this shit, and enjoy the music, that argument is so old!
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
Not that I want to get in a huge argument about it cuz you're right, it is old and tired but the fast-rap style is not even the style in question. It's the way Bone SUDDENLY blended their harmonies in a stream-of-conscious type flow and flexed their voices exactly like Good Lifers, especially Myka 9. Just compare Krayzie Bone's verse on Crossroads to Myka's verse on Mary and tell me they don't almost sound like the same person... he even tries to sound like Myka.
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
Well, I've hear many rappers, underground and mainstream that have similar voice styles. Here's one example... 2Pac and Black Haze, compare, try to figure the difference. Anyway, I'm a Myka9 fan, and yes, I understand what you're saying. I've been listening to Freestyle Fellowship, and their solo stuff since mid-90s, and similarities always come up afloat, just like other rappers styles that are also similar.
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
The difference however is when asked Blac Haze doesn't deny that he was heavily influenced by 2pac. Bone will completely deny Freestyle Fellowship had any influence on their music.
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
Hm, I need you to explain to me something though...
Is there a 'difference' between *Jazz Hip Hop* and *Jamaican Patois-styled Hip Hop*?
Also... what's the difference between *Scat* and *Chopped.*
There are differences...
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
I don't really pay attention to differences between sub-genres and sub-styles.. they are a waste of time in my mind. It's all just music to me. I classify certain things in my own mind but I don't break everything down into genre.
And I'm also not sure I completely understand the question, are you asking the difference between scat singing and chopped rapping?
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
lol, just leave it as that.
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
Leave it at what? That generally implies that a point was made and I'm not sure you made one lol. What do Jazz Rap and Scat have to do with Bone biting Freestyle Fellowship?
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
lol
Freestyle Fellowship ~ Scat/Jazz Hip Hop
Bone Thugs - Jamaican Patois Hip Hop (sometimes chopped)
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...HUGE difference.
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
You seriously think FF was just Jazz rap? What have you listened to like 3 of their songs? This shit is not scat, it's freestyle rap.. they are both improvisational but very different. Maybe they pulled a few things from scat but overall freestyle rap is it's own entity from scat.
FF had TONS of styles other than just jazz rap.. have you ever listened to To Whom It May Concern all the way through? They don't sound exactly the same on any track, even just the jazz.
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
Okay, I've been listening to Hip Hop since 1981.
I've been listening to Freestyle Fellowship since 1989. They did a whole lot of unreleased songs, back in the day, that I've never seen here that were fully Jazz.
Scat, do you even know what is scat? Do you even know WHEN it got evolved? Tell you this much, Scat is over a 100 years, and it was basically improvising (freestyling). FF dropped that style around 93-ish.
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
Fully jazz? Homie even the shit Acey and Myka dropped in 88 as Music over Minds wasn't fully jazz.. the track 'It's Fatal' sounds like a more lyrical Run DMC rather than anything jazz. they have NEVER been just jazz, EVER.
And Scat and freestyle rap are not that same.. Scat is honestly mostly garbage.. only a select few were good at it. Freestyle rap is more structured and tends to make more sense as its more wordy but still very free as far as language.
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
I really love how you mix things up, and misunderstand what people say....
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@rapsody :
I also love how, you miscomprehend thing.
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
I love how you try to be as non-specific as possible and ignore all my points. You've heard all these unreleased FF tracks, but haven't named one. I've named specific examples for every point I've made. I'm not trying to be a dick, I just don't see what point you're trying to make. Bone stole shit without giving credit, you can still like their music.. hell, I like some of it. I just don't respect them, but that doesn't mean anything to them anyway.
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
I'm not ignoring your points, you're turning things in other directions from every of my comments. Frankly, if that goes on after ONE comment, an things goes mixed-up from the person I'm speaking to..... I loose interest in talking.
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Freestyle Fellowship and Bone Thugs... 2 different styles, that's the last I will say. I'm not going to sit here and get replies of someone twisting each of my comments. I'm not trying to be a dick either, just so you know.
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
lol, ok..
FF and Bone Thugs, 2 different styles.. except for how Krayzie Bone tries to sound exactly like Myka 9 on almost every track.
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
.... recycled comment.
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@rapsody :
Anyway, this shouldn't matter at all, and I'm definitely not trying to show-off, or look a step ahead, but I did experienced FF live in the 80s, even Myka and Acey. Find someone my age who lived the 80s with a notion, and they will tell you, one local appearance was nothing but Jazz music.
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
I don't doubt that you saw them live and I'm glad you did. I also don't doubt they did jazz-oriented stuff because that was a big section of what they contributed to hip hop and is made for live shows. But it was hardly all they contributed to hip hop was my point. I don't expect everyone to understand this, I am admittedly a huge FF fanboy and do have my own biases.
I do however expect Bone to give proper respect to who birthed their rap careers.
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
I understand what you're telling me.... and once again, the Jazz stuff was something that they got rid off with time, even to not use it so much. This is what I said on a previous comment, just re-worded. Even during their last as a group, they had dropped it virtually completely.
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...and once again, I've heard a bunch of mainstream and underground rappers or emcees that have similar voices and styles, some even seemed mirrored, even in the 80s.
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
Yeah but Bone sounded completely different on Faces of Death, their first recorded album that was not produced by Eazy. They didn't have the same type of musical style at all.. so you're tellin me they get this westcoast producer and all the sudden start sounding eerily similar to this innovative rap group that is from the EXACT same place as Eazy.. and you want me to believe that's just coincidence? I highly doubt it.
Thanks for supporting hip hop tho for real.
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
Answer me an awfully easy question now: On Faces Of Death, did they rapped fast or slow????
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
The similarities have nothing to do with how fast or slow they rap so it's an irrelevant question. The similarities are in the layered harmonic flows, the way they flex their voices, and the stream-of-conscious (albeit a less intelligent one) way they let their words go.
Faces of Death was hugely underdeveloped musically compared to their other stuff. It's not about the speed of rap, it's about the way they approached the tracks and their whole sound.
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
There used to be an LA local duo named "Double Layered," they ran through with no label, and self-recorded their stuff in their garage, this was 1983. Now guess what?
They rapped "fast" and did the "harmony" thing. Only difference is, they did 2-Tone rhythms.
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
I never said FF were the first group to rap fast or do harmonies. I am saying Bone's whole sound switched immediately from sounding nothing like FF to sounding A LOT like FF seemingly overnight once they were produced by Eazy. They didn't just have "harmonies", they had the signature Myka 9-Freestyle Fellowship style of harmony and rap. You want me to believe that's simply a coincidence. I don't think it is. This is where the core of our disagreement lies.
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
Well, in that case, Freestyle Fellowship copied Double Layered,
and to this date, haven't heard FF say anything about DL, and since FF sounds way to simliat to DL... they copied and never game them credit.
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There used to be a trio hip hop group named Jamay Ka, from Orange County, they actually did gigs with Double Layered. They did the harmony styling, and, they did the Jamaican thing. If BTNH copied anyone... then they copied Jamay Ka, based on the Jamaica-Patois style BTNH had.
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
Way to use circular reasoning... I can almost guarantee you that Double Layered sounded nothing like Myka 9 on 7th Seal... nobody had ever heard anyone rap like that before, that's why FF are underground legends and nobody's heard of double layered. You're trying to compare some group that recorded out of their garage to one of the most influential hip hop groups of all time? Nobody's even heard them.
You can justify it all you want, the facts don't lie.
rapsody 1 year ago
@rapsody :
What a way of bashing against yourself, congratulations.
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Myka 9, 7th Seal, Freestyle Fellowship knew exactly who Double Layer is (was). I found Freestyle Fellowship and feel in love with their music when they did a gig with Double Layer. Double layer was out before Freestyle Fellowship, Myka9 or 7th Seal. We're talking about a due who started out in the 70s.
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I'm definitely done with you kid.
AntiLilWayneChannel 1 year ago
@AntiLilWayneChannel
Homie, it's obvious you have no idea what you're even talking about. If FF did a gig with double layered, obviously there is mutual respect between them. Meaning if FF did pull anything from double layered, they gave proper respect to them. My problem is not with Bone being influenced by FF.. my problem is that they deny they were influenced by them even while trying to sound exactly like them. Your argument is done cuz you never had one.
rapsody 1 year ago
this is deep
ManlaiSadis 1 year ago 2
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I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me....
I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free....
I gotta be able to counterattack...
I gotta be stable, I gotta be black...
calculus345 1 year ago
Damn this is old school! Been looking for this 4eva! 93 baby!
2hedzrbetta 1 year ago
wheres jupiter in this video?
MrSnuffaluff 2 years ago
he was in jail no?
flippyspiffy101 1 year ago
yep.
AlienNationRadio 1 year ago
I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me....
I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free....
I gotta be able to counterattack...
I gotta be stable, I gotta be black...
love this song man
badaboom25 2 years ago 9
@badaboom25
So true....
in my opinion, best hip-hop song of the underground 90s era
booradley187 1 year ago
INCREDIBLE!
DefHarmony 2 years ago
Keep supportin MYKA 9!!!!!
024warrior 2 years ago
My favorite joint from them....banger!!!!!!!
7thJewelProductions 2 years ago
innercity griots - the pinnacle, the greatest hip hop album of all time!
seagull72 2 years ago
Hip hop in the Music industry today
is pushing that freemasonry agenda
YT Search
Hip Hop / Illuminati
This shit runs deep ....
ClairvoyanceOcean 2 years ago
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ChrisnSnoop 2 years ago
yeah it's hip hop - it ain't that lil wayne/soulja mundane crud
excoc 2 years ago 8
@excoc BET!
lxolxo7 1 year ago
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Y'all call this off-beat shit hip-hop?
SuperSonicStress 2 years ago
You don't know shit about hip-hop. Please, shut the fuck up and stop posing.
ChrisnSnoop 2 years ago 3
word up g
OGKaine 2 years ago
" We are by NO MEANS ashamed of our cultural background, Not a tad bit afraid of change looking around at the same ole' same ole' thing"
CheezyDonSenior 2 years ago 4
how has rap come from this to the shit that is popular now?
xterrorizinboys88 2 years ago 24
@xterrorizinboys88 People had rhythm and poetry, took the "rhythm" portion and discarded the poetry over the years.
Mechanix666 1 year ago
@xterrorizinboys88 people were brain fucked by MTV and BET.
NerdstatuZ 1 year ago 2
@xterrorizinboys88 BET!
lxolxo7 1 year ago
once we have... the knowledge of self
as a people then we can be free and no devil
could ever enter
the boundaries
davedoug 2 years ago 3
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davedoug 2 years ago
classic shit !
atizarapcrew 2 years ago
This is a SERIOUS gem right here
FulltimeDabbler 2 years ago
such a good tune.
cheydee 2 years ago
I'd totally forgotten this song but the moment i heard the sax my childhood came flooding back. thanks, you made my day:-)
miahmakhon 2 years ago
second only 2 tha 7th sealtrack other than that very ill !
spotville73 2 years ago
Love this album,remember buyin it after Hip-Hop connection mag did a big thing on them,and hammered the s**t outta ma stereo with it,the whole street was singing ''Shammys''....ya gotta put that 1 on,proper dope track,,loved it,....'''
ADZ23774 2 years ago
Each of their voices is like a different instrument soloing -
This is the real shit - forget about Bones, Cube, Dogg- this is it
svenghoulieil 2 years ago 2
bone thugs n harmony bit myka 9 styles
cube bit volume 10 styles
snoop dogg is okay because he was down with the goodlife mc's
henrysour 2 years ago
howd you know snoop was down?
nemesis700 2 years ago
Snoop recorded a song with Ganjah-K which was on Ganjah's "Danksta's Life" (93). I'm pretty sure he knew some cats from the Good Life...
ratm1211 2 years ago
now this is some good music!!!
ABAIR1990 2 years ago
in all actuality, this is really just contemporary jazz...
matthew45736 2 years ago
who cares what it is its fuckin good
420blazejuggalo 2 years ago
what happened to hip hop?
comicoholic 2 years ago 23
posers.... thats what happened.
KeithGram 2 years ago 8
@comicoholic
I asked myself the same thing.
We can thank lil john and others like him for ruining hiphop/rap.
I could listen to this song all day.
VoodooRhythmSound 1 year ago
@comicoholic, RECORD COMPANIES& PRODUCERS!!!
hersheyslim 1 year ago
@comicoholic It had to take anotha route. "Underground". Peace!
TRUTHWILLMANIFEST 1 year ago
skee bop, a-biddly boo bop, cha
johnnorfolk 2 years ago 7
wow this is classiccc but i never saw this video.
great upload..
chinita41 2 years ago 3
POOF
MrKanehague 2 years ago
i love good hip hop but boy, do I hate SCAT. irretrievably pretentious
johnnorfolk 2 years ago
this aint no scat this is jazzy soul shiyyyt.
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zokon53 2 years ago
See, Freestyle Fellowship is legendary ... not like lilly gayne!
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AntiLilWayneChannel 2 years ago 4
true
MrKanehague 2 years ago
Man get over that shit. You're drawing attention to him by talking so much smack. The best way to hate on his shit is to ignore it!
zentonil 2 years ago