@ArtificialRed1083 he didn't become wanted because he said all those stuff, he became wanted because he played a competitive chess match in some place which wasn't allowed.
Pero eso fue un error infantil, de los que ni siquiera Fischer era absolutamente inmune. Hasta yo me hubiera dado cuenta que no podía tomar el peón h2!
Still until today i don't understand why Fisher took that pawn....a move that is just not like him at all...he could have gotten the draw on that first game
What happened at the end of the game?, fischer stood up, and tried to shake Spassky's hand, and the man standing there said "NO" ???? Is that what happened?
Isn't it ironic that after nearly an entire life of no other thought than that of what happens in front of him on a chessboard, Fischer died at the age of 64? Which is of course the number of squares on a chessboard.
@SleepIsMagic Nothing to do with fear my friend... a person like Bobby who openly speaks what he believes despite the consequences (read the articles on line about him spitting on Bush's letter to him while in Yugoslavia to name but just one such courageous "move")....He basically asked the Chess federation to change some of their rules...which they later DID change because he was right in many aspects...At that time though they refused and Bobby basically said ...Fine then I won't play!!
@Shoei6m9 Yeah taking the pawn with the bishop was a mistake by Fischer because his bishop was trapped. Afterwards, Spassky took the bishop along with all of Fischer's pawns one by one. This was the first game. That's basically what the narrator said.
@Shoei6m9 read "Bobby Fisher Goes to War" and all is revealed. Fisher was a genius but unpredictable on and off the chessboard., Spassky was a gentleman, but got to like him , despite his antics.
@dunavbalkan thanks ill read the book at once, btw i made a short film about chess and documented some street musicians. i did watch your account, your interest in folkmusic is genuine, do u have any chessmatchess on youtube? greetings
@Shoei6m9 I like the Chessnetwork on You tube. Search for Chessnetwork.. learn a lot from there, but really am not so good at the game, was demoralised by internet chess last 5 years! I liked the book btw, learned a lot more from the Russian side than we knew at the time- good luck with your film. regards
@nanuka711 Because it's from a European perspective, btw his accent is European not American. For all I care, I can speak American Spanish but the weird thing is that European Spanish sounds too biblical....lol
Black should play the position like so - Bxh2 g3 Ke7 Ke4 Kd6 Kf3 Kc5 Kg2 Kxb5 Kxh2.
Black has full compensation with an active king and potential for passed pawns.
Best play can for both sides continues a5 Kg2 Kc4 Kf3 b5 Ke2 Kb3 e4 b4 axb4 axb4 Bd2 Ka3 Kd1 b3 Kc1 Ka2 Bc3 h5 f4 g5 e5 gxf4 gxf6 fxg3 f7 g2 Bd4 b2+ Kd2 g1=Q Bxg1 b1=Q f8=Q Qxg1 draws. Its a very instructive endgame to analyze. Fischer's sacrifice was as sound as they come.
yes speelman has analysed it to be the correct move ,,,,,i dreamt that fischer beat anand 6-0 yesterday spooky. Anyone coming to london to see Anand Carlsen and Kramnik all in the same tournament
Yes PhilNoll, you're absolutely right. And it appears that in your line, 33...Bxg3 is not even necessary. Black could win simply with 33...Kxb5 34.Kxh2.
White loses so many tempos winning the trapped bishop that this game is just dead lost. I can't believe no-one has ever said this before.
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no it wasn't fischer didnt follow correctly admitedly, fischer wins the title anyways no biggy the first match is usually to not reval all noveltys and try to feel your opponent out/ get your brain into the match, and or tournement
@philnoll Was your Fritz friend set to optimum performance, like it's set to Benchmark? What about the amount of cache? Do it again, and give it 3 hours at least to think, and you'll see it will make that Bxh2. Others had tried it on other chess engines, like Rybka, Shredder, Deep Junior, and they said it gave the Bxh2 result. On a patzers note, yes, theoretically it was not a good move, as obviously the bishop would be trapped there.
Actually IkiriRiri, you may be right. After Bxh2 g3 Ke7 Ke4 Kd6 Kf3 Kc5 Kg2 Bxg3 Kxg3 Kxb5 black appears to be better, and maybe even clearly winning.
Wow. I didn't let fritz think that long, I just got in there and analyzed it. I think you're right. Bxh7 is not a blunder at all, in fact it offers black the best winning chances, so I guess you were right.
Hmmm ... Fischer was also subject to enormous pressure. He was dancing to the rythm himself had set having said that he would win over Spassky and those "Russians" (out of which only Spassky was really a Russian, since the rest were usually other people of USSR like Armenians, Latvians, Kazakis, Jewish, Georgians etc.). Yet Spassky being the only Russian he was not that popular among USSR responsibles for not being communist - he too was subject to enormous pressure.
Es verdad que ese movimiento de Fischer fue inexplicable. Aunque Fischer empezó mal luego se recuperó y ganó el campeonato mundial. Y hubo partidas realmente espectaculares.
Correct... many opinions have been offered as reason for Fischer's sacrifice. Some say it was a physcological ploy, aimed at showing Spassky that he wasn't content to draw EVER-not even in a completely drawn position. Others say he saw the draw and simply blundered. Maybe it was because he wanted to go 0-2 in the match and then when he started winning, it would shake up Spassky. Or, maybe Fischer was just insane!!
Fischer was probably playing for the win. The idea was to advance the h pawn to try and free the pawn and to play the king over to the queenside to win the vulnerable pawns. Spassky could stop the h pawn advance with his king but then the queenside would be in jeopardy. Fischer would then march the queenside pawns for a win. Rybka gives draw but more depth shows that Spassky would still have won.
Fischer should have played Ke7 on the next move instead of h5. Perhaps he miscalculated the best order of moves or perhps he saw after Spassky played g3 that Ke7 would also failed and switched plans. Either way, the criticism of Bxh2 is vastly over exagerated when one actually sees the depth required to see the real mistake!
the first game was filmed and he demanded that the cameras be removed. When they werent he didnt show up for game 2 and I think after that they removed the cameras
You're right about that one. Fischer lost a piece, so it's a bad move. I'm no chess genius, but I can see that much. A calculation error is only a great move if a loss is the goal.
@Ruxistico I have done the analysis myself and confirmed it with various computers. You can't always trust the score the computer gives, and I'm willing to play the position against any one of your engines to prove its a draw.
Try setting up the position White: Ke5 Pa5, Pb6, Bg5 Black: Ka8 Pa6 Pb7
That position is a dead draw, but since there's 7 pieces and no way to force trades, the computer registers this at +4 points.
@philnoll exactly. We play until we reach a tablebase. I think we should have a relaxed attitude towards time/move demands, since we are both busy people and we both want to find the correct result. If we can conclude anything with certainty it will be of historic value. I will get back to you when I've set up a profile for this game! May the best man win - no, may the truth prevail!
@Ruxistico I'll agree to that, except not every outcome is guaranteed to reach tablebases. Some positions we would have to just agree on a draw, or institute the 50 move rule.
his chess expertise would have eased a transition into the world of high stakes checkers...the current world champ is a big guy names billy bob who lives in alabama and wears overalls
29 ... Bxh2 ?! ce coup n'est pas ridicule, il semble perdant mais le sacrifice du fou donne à Fischer 2 pions libres sur les colonnes E et G avec son roi au milieu de l'échiquier, même si le coup Bxh2 est douteux c'est la fin de partie approximative de Fischer (alors que c'est un de ses points forts) et la solidité de Spassky qui donne la victoire à ce dernier.
Fischer reminds me of a film featuring Tom Hanks, who played a character who had obsessive tendencies. But he was very good at what he turned his hands too. Fischer gave up chess in the same way Forrest gave up running.
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The world will never know. Combine this with the forfeit on game #2 and it's almost as if Fischer was acting out the famous poem "Casey at the Bat", letting two balls whizz past him before rolling up his sleeves and knocking it out of the park. But unlike the Mighty Casey, Fischer did not strike out.
And to be able to reconstruct the game in case of any accidental incident. In every important event since over 100 years chess games are recorded this way.
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for bobby it was reasonable that he never defend his title and did all to avoid the world championship against karpow.he was a great player but there is no doubt that he hadn't a real chance against him. he knowed good that karpow would have destroyed in that match.
Don't misunderstand me.I know that Fisher was a great Champion and i know what he did for the popularity of chess. He played a lot of awesome games. But he knew that Karpow was another category as Spasski and all of his former opponents.
"Soviet Grandmasters privately scoffed at Karpov's chances in 1975. Most pundits believed he would lose... and lose badly. . . . Karpov knew he could hardly draw a game with Fischer, never mind winning one or two games. His only chance was to disrupt the match. So a whole arsenal of tricks was worked out, designed to upset the sensitive American, unaccustomed to such methods." -- GM Lev Alburt
I know that! But how much tricks used fisher to confuse Spasski at the worldchampionship 1972??? Mind games have always been a part of chess.Fisher realized that he got a very serious opponent. It's not only my opinion Kasparows mentioned it also several times. Otherwise Fisher wouldn't put down his titel and go to retirement. Fisher was all but not a good sport.A defeat against Karpov would have destroyed him.
I'm not sure if Fischer raised objections to the cameras as a way of unsettling Spassky, or if he was sincerely distracted by the noise that they made. (Cameras in the early 70's were gigantic devices that made all sorts of noise, not like the slick digital devices we use today.) I'm sure that Fischer realized that Karpov was a very strong player as well, but I don't think he was afraid. Fischer was incapable of feeling the emotion of "fear" ... that's what made him great.
It was FIDE who refused to accept the "Cramer Proposal" for match format (first to 10 wins is champion, and a 9-9 score is a draw and the champ retains the title). In the end the FIDE delegates voted 35-32 against. That's a very narrow margin. Had two other countries accepted the Cramer proposal, the match would have happened. So who was running from whom?
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The irony is that because Fischer got the cameras banned the only game we have on film from 1972 is this one where he admitted himself that he played like a fish. But not his epics like 3,5, 10, 13 or 6
The verdict on Bxh2 may be that the move draws. Anyway, I think it was a good practical chance. Fischer is under pressure in the endgame, even if it was drawn. I don't think I've ever heard Spassky renowned as an endgame master, but it still looks pretty difficult for black.
As Spassky himself has said, it wasn't anything but a very risky attempt by Fischer to unbalance the game and gain winning chances. So many articles have been written about this move - a mistake? Definitely. Genius in action? Definitely. A non-GM wouldn't even have considered it, and that's why they'll never be World Champion. Unlike Fischer, natch ;-)
I don't think that a non-grandmaster would have never considered it! Many National masters would have probably considered such a move and would have seen it leads to loss after a bit of analysis. Probably top grandmasters would have abandon this sacrifice by first glance. Fisher is probably the second best chess player (for me Garry is the best) but he suffered a bad illness. He always considered he was invisible!!! If in chess you don't have a rational understanding of danger then you lose :)
Karpov was great. One of my best actually! His play did not have that universal appeal and besides his striking positional skills and endgame mastery he was never the most impressive player! Anand, Topalov and some of the new generation are probably already candidates for 2nd-3rd positions. When Karpov made a move almost everyone could understand the reason it was made.
what is so good about them? they come to your country, rule it, after sell it :D. there is a good phrase in jewish community, it says "if jews will build their own country one day they sell it".
u motherfucking son of a bitch!!! every jew is more than a houndret times betta than u crappy piece of shit!! and adolf hitler was a gay tiny asshole and he didnt even desere it to breath the air of a jew! (for everyone who reads this,...i'm not a jew)
fischer was a genius at the cheessboard and no where else. fools who comment on his high IQ as if it signified some kind of universe intelligence only make jackasses of themselves. stop deifying him as if his talent at the board translated beyond it. he was a venomous fool.
Dzzz. Ellston Come on.. Bobby Fischer a fool? Its very commun 2 see genious going wild.. Bobby fischer had 170 Iq .. (He did some test) And by the way he was playing chess. There is no way he can be stupid . lol
Fischer will always be the best chess player in world...dead or not...no one is better...I wish he was still alive and still playing so he could crush Kasparov and all those other top knotch gm's in games straight
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Personally, I could care less about his personal life, I just love what he did
for chess. I really think he was a genius in chess. This pawn move was an
offering of giving Spassky 1 game up. Because after this, he destroyed him.
I think Fischer felt confident enough to give up a win and play mind games
with him. The whole money thing afterwards proves that Fischer knew what
he was doing in my opinion. He got the best of Spassky.
Knightstrikes 1 month ago
Personally, I could care less about his personal life, I just love what he did
for chess. I really think he was a genius in chess. This pawn move was an
offering of giving Spassky 1 game up. Because after this, he destroyed him.
I think Fischer felt confident enough to give up a win and play mind games
with him. The whole money thing afterwards proves that Fischer knew what
he was doing in my opinion. He got the best of Spassky.
Knightstrikes 1 month ago
Que manera d perder una partida que era tablas de salón
MrBetovenforever 1 month ago
@ArtificialRed1083 he didn't become wanted because he said all those stuff, he became wanted because he played a competitive chess match in some place which wasn't allowed.
btkw 2 months ago
That Fischer guy is that Bobby Fischer we are talking about?
AnimalMotherFTW2 3 months ago
que escribia cada vez que jugaba aver quien me responde me gustaria saber gracias :)
achullifuul 3 months ago
FISCHER ES Y SERÁ EL MEJOR... A NINGÚN JUGADOR A PARTE DE FISCHER SE LE OBLIGÓ A PERDER.
tibuyanito 3 months ago
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tibuyanito 3 months ago
In English-fischer gave an odd or handicap, Tagalog-partida, Spanish-handicap
Aang4Katara 4 months ago
Pero eso fue un error infantil, de los que ni siquiera Fischer era absolutamente inmune. Hasta yo me hubiera dado cuenta que no podía tomar el peón h2!
Ray0X0 4 months ago
perhaps fischer was hoping to give spassky enough rope to hang himself with if he made a goof
EDWARDBASTARDHITLER 5 months ago
trapped it
EDWARDBASTARDHITLER 5 months ago
Still until today i don't understand why Fisher took that pawn....a move that is just not like him at all...he could have gotten the draw on that first game
Laseptiemewilaya 6 months ago
What happened at the end of the game?, fischer stood up, and tried to shake Spassky's hand, and the man standing there said "NO" ???? Is that what happened?
Velvet4U 6 months ago
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Isn't it ironic that after nearly an entire life of no other thought than that of what happens in front of him on a chessboard, Fischer died at the age of 64? Which is of course the number of squares on a chessboard.
mjbeaz 6 months ago
@SleepIsMagic Yep, a great shame. Would have been nice to see Bobby smash The Foetus.
00bikeboy 7 months ago
@SleepIsMagic Nothing to do with fear my friend... a person like Bobby who openly speaks what he believes despite the consequences (read the articles on line about him spitting on Bush's letter to him while in Yugoslavia to name but just one such courageous "move")....He basically asked the Chess federation to change some of their rules...which they later DID change because he was right in many aspects...At that time though they refused and Bobby basically said ...Fine then I won't play!!
SamLeChiq 8 months ago
One off the best chessplayers ever. Ah well, everybody loses some games
ArtsewS 8 months ago
Theres not much i understand of this, i dont speak spanish, and there are no subtitles. seems to me some guy gives up his bishop.
Shoei6m9 9 months ago
@Shoei6m9 Yeah taking the pawn with the bishop was a mistake by Fischer because his bishop was trapped. Afterwards, Spassky took the bishop along with all of Fischer's pawns one by one. This was the first game. That's basically what the narrator said.
loroimperial 9 months ago
@Shoei6m9 read "Bobby Fisher Goes to War" and all is revealed. Fisher was a genius but unpredictable on and off the chessboard., Spassky was a gentleman, but got to like him , despite his antics.
dunavbalkan 9 months ago
@dunavbalkan thanks ill read the book at once, btw i made a short film about chess and documented some street musicians. i did watch your account, your interest in folkmusic is genuine, do u have any chessmatchess on youtube? greetings
Shoei6m9 9 months ago
@Shoei6m9 I like the Chessnetwork on You tube. Search for Chessnetwork.. learn a lot from there, but really am not so good at the game, was demoralised by internet chess last 5 years! I liked the book btw, learned a lot more from the Russian side than we knew at the time- good luck with your film. regards
dunavbalkan 9 months ago
the 9 peopole that dont like this dont know the 4 move mate :)
pacman3399 10 months ago
why is this in spanish lol????
nanuka711 11 months ago
@nanuka711 Because it's from a European perspective, btw his accent is European not American. For all I care, I can speak American Spanish but the weird thing is that European Spanish sounds too biblical....lol
ejc45 5 months ago
text english, voice spanish omg f_uck you!
Alexon88 1 year ago
Spassky won the game. It was one of three he won in the match (one was a forfeit). Fischer won 7, the other 11 were draws.
TomBarristerX 1 year ago
i don't understand what happened at the end. Who won? Did Bobby walk out? Did someone give up?
yistackness 1 year ago
Black should play the position like so - Bxh2 g3 Ke7 Ke4 Kd6 Kf3 Kc5 Kg2 Kxb5 Kxh2.
Black has full compensation with an active king and potential for passed pawns.
Best play can for both sides continues a5 Kg2 Kc4 Kf3 b5 Ke2 Kb3 e4 b4 axb4 axb4 Bd2 Ka3 Kd1 b3 Kc1 Ka2 Bc3 h5 f4 g5 e5 gxf4 gxf6 fxg3 f7 g2 Bd4 b2+ Kd2 g1=Q Bxg1 b1=Q f8=Q Qxg1 draws. Its a very instructive endgame to analyze. Fischer's sacrifice was as sound as they come.
philnoll 1 year ago
was young and it seemed rather deep, I didnt get it then, but for some reason always remembered that comment...(while he was munching on noodles!)
Now I'm old and realize he was right...it explains a lot of why some people get in ruts or unhappiness.
I'm sad for his decline, but his words then are nice ones to remember anyway...
orangebobwhite 1 year ago
was young and it seemed rather deep, I didnt get it then, but for some reason always remembered that comment...(while he was munching on noodles!)
Now I'm old and realize he was right...it explains a lot of why some people get in ruts or unhappiness.
I'm sad for his decline, but his words then are nice ones to remember anyway...
orangebobwhite 1 year ago
At the time, the analyses was overwhelmingly in favor of a juvenile blunder. And the computers now say it's the right move????? How amazing is that!
JustPassingByToday 1 year ago
esto es una chorrada el alfil tiene escapatoria como q el sol da luz
ophistocoelicaudia 1 year ago
He did this on purpose of course, he didn't give a shit, he knew he was going to win in the end.
killingangel707 1 year ago
Fischer clearly lost his mind with the 2 moves Bxh2 and h5. He turned a certain draw into a simple win for Spassky.
bailinnumberguy 1 year ago
Bobby Fischer= The Greatest of all time.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
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linjuntao 1 year ago
WTF just happened
CodeDarkBlue 1 year ago
yes speelman has analysed it to be the correct move ,,,,,i dreamt that fischer beat anand 6-0 yesterday spooky. Anyone coming to london to see Anand Carlsen and Kramnik all in the same tournament
d4bmcc 1 year ago
Apparently all computers say that bishop takes pawn is actually the correct move.
Achilles94627 1 year ago
Hi everyone. I have found that 29...Bxh2 is actually an amazing winning move.
Fischer could have played 30. g3 Ke7 31. Ke2 Kd6 32. Kf3 Kc5 33. Kg2 Bxg3 34. Kxg3 Kxb5 and now black is winning here with his pawns.
If anyone has any evidence to the contrary, check it on rybka and see if you can refute this line.
philnoll 1 year ago
@philnoll
Yes PhilNoll, you're absolutely right. And it appears that in your line, 33...Bxg3 is not even necessary. Black could win simply with 33...Kxb5 34.Kxh2.
White loses so many tempos winning the trapped bishop that this game is just dead lost. I can't believe no-one has ever said this before.
philnoll 1 year ago
I remember that blunder as if it were yesterday!
aeiou99999 1 year ago
He is smart, but I want to set him on fire!
XxXCutefulXxX 1 year ago
En España han censurado el video "Retrobites:Bobby Fischer(1963)" por sus opiniones sobre la mujer,pero la excusa es el CopyRight..¿Por favor,puede alguien volver a subirlo de alguna manera?.En ESPAÑA sufrimos la Dictadura Feminista del Ministerio de Igualdad
JeanDarc19 1 year ago
no it wasn't fischer didnt follow correctly admitedly, fischer wins the title anyways no biggy the first match is usually to not reval all noveltys and try to feel your opponent out/ get your brain into the match, and or tournement
PDS12 1 year ago
How was right to play. If deep fritzed showed it to you, then share it with us too.
Spassky37 1 year ago
@Spassky37 It isn't a winning move, but actually Bxh2 g3 h5 Ke4 h4 Kf3 h3! Kg4 Bg1 Kxh3 Bxf2 Bd2 e5 Kg2 Bxe3 Bxe3 a6! the game is a draw
philnoll 1 year ago
Amazing my friend deep fritz confirmed Bxh2 the strongest move! Fischer failed to correctly follow up.
IkiriRiri 1 year ago
@IkiriRiri
Ha. Fritz didn't say Bxh2 is good move. The position is so simple that even us patzers can figure it out without the help of fritz.
philnoll 1 year ago
@philnoll Was your Fritz friend set to optimum performance, like it's set to Benchmark? What about the amount of cache? Do it again, and give it 3 hours at least to think, and you'll see it will make that Bxh2. Others had tried it on other chess engines, like Rybka, Shredder, Deep Junior, and they said it gave the Bxh2 result. On a patzers note, yes, theoretically it was not a good move, as obviously the bishop would be trapped there.
IkiriRiri 1 year ago
Actually IkiriRiri, you may be right. After Bxh2 g3 Ke7 Ke4 Kd6 Kf3 Kc5 Kg2 Bxg3 Kxg3 Kxb5 black appears to be better, and maybe even clearly winning.
philnoll 1 year ago
@IkiriRiri
Wow. I didn't let fritz think that long, I just got in there and analyzed it. I think you're right. Bxh7 is not a blunder at all, in fact it offers black the best winning chances, so I guess you were right.
philnoll 1 year ago
Hmmm ... Fischer was also subject to enormous pressure. He was dancing to the rythm himself had set having said that he would win over Spassky and those "Russians" (out of which only Spassky was really a Russian, since the rest were usually other people of USSR like Armenians, Latvians, Kazakis, Jewish, Georgians etc.). Yet Spassky being the only Russian he was not that popular among USSR responsibles for not being communist - he too was subject to enormous pressure.
papagamias 1 year ago
ellinas?
4erosmith 1 year ago
Nai
papagamias 1 year ago
I'm amazed that a player of Fischer's quality made such a bone headed play. most intermediate players such as myself would never fall for that
psychofish4444 1 year ago
Bxh2 was a bad move
alex49carson 1 year ago
Es verdad que ese movimiento de Fischer fue inexplicable. Aunque Fischer empezó mal luego se recuperó y ganó el campeonato mundial. Y hubo partidas realmente espectaculares.
rrrto2005 1 year ago
este es solo un video o hay otro en español que me explique los acontecimientos en aquella ocacion ?
mitrix86 2 years ago
Fischer was a patzer.
ButterJunge 2 years ago
if i was spassky i wud do Kc7 and let the bishop do stuff
nottybanks7 2 years ago
Really? Killing the bishop is fun.
iLikeBaroqueMusic 2 years ago
By the way, correct grammar is "If I were Spassky,..."
iLikeBaroqueMusic 2 years ago 2
Eeeh... Alien interference? Quantum telepsychological dimorphism impact? Why did the greatest chessplayer of all time do that? :S
Thymonico 2 years ago
I dont think fischer did not see that easy trap, of taking the pawn on h2, he did it on porpuse is the only explination i have....
faustooo2000 2 years ago
29...Bxh2 30.g3 h5 31.Ke4 h4 32.gxh4 Bd6 33.Bb2 Ke7 34.f4 Kd7 35.a4 Ke7 36.Bd4 a6 37.bxa6 bxa6 38.h5 Kd7 39.Bc3 f5+
IkiriRiri 2 years ago
Fischer's is one crazy genius! :D
Thymonico 2 years ago 24
@Thymonico who won
10starvideos 8 months ago
@10starvideos Spassky won the first game.
Cerebralator 7 months ago
0:47 wtf... yes he did Bxh2 but you can't even see his hand make the move!
Bizarre russian influence? illegal mind control, lost time through druggs in the chair? has anyone explained this.
sexiestbutler 2 years ago 2
Rybka 3 gives the move...Bxh2!!
The same one fischer did!!
YOUR AMAZING FISHY YOU GOT IT!!
Fupper16 2 years ago
What line of continuation does Rybka give then?
Because Fisher lost the game.
serrie85 2 years ago
It's a draw with perfect play... I can't post the analysis its too long message me if u want it
Fupper16 2 years ago
Ow just a draw with perfect play? But if he didn't sacrifed his biship he had an easy draw anyway i think?
serrie85 2 years ago
Correct... many opinions have been offered as reason for Fischer's sacrifice. Some say it was a physcological ploy, aimed at showing Spassky that he wasn't content to draw EVER-not even in a completely drawn position. Others say he saw the draw and simply blundered. Maybe it was because he wanted to go 0-2 in the match and then when he started winning, it would shake up Spassky. Or, maybe Fischer was just insane!!
Fupper16 2 years ago 4
@Fupper16
best comment ever!
SpongeInPyjama 1 year ago
Fischer was probably playing for the win. The idea was to advance the h pawn to try and free the pawn and to play the king over to the queenside to win the vulnerable pawns. Spassky could stop the h pawn advance with his king but then the queenside would be in jeopardy. Fischer would then march the queenside pawns for a win. Rybka gives draw but more depth shows that Spassky would still have won.
dartplayer170 1 year ago
Fischer should have played Ke7 on the next move instead of h5. Perhaps he miscalculated the best order of moves or perhps he saw after Spassky played g3 that Ke7 would also failed and switched plans. Either way, the criticism of Bxh2 is vastly over exagerated when one actually sees the depth required to see the real mistake!
dartplayer170 1 year ago
u r funny these are simple tactics
nothing extraordinary
tuktukktotam 2 years ago
yes, even fritz gave that Bxh2. But fischer's follow was second best if not third.
IkiriRiri 2 years ago
Amazing footage! I thought Fischer was adamant there be no cameras throughout this. Was this filmed via hidden camera?
GlitteringGirl65 2 years ago
the first game was filmed and he demanded that the cameras be removed. When they werent he didnt show up for game 2 and I think after that they removed the cameras
Virtualwallvirus 2 years ago
after losing this match I believe Fischer lost his grip on reality as well
fatlaserbunnys 2 years ago
He did not lose the match!
starfire0007 2 years ago
i think that fisher did a riesgosa jugada but in a world tournement you can't do that !
ramirov123 2 years ago
whats that?
Virtualwallvirus 2 years ago
Fischer, wasn't a happy camper at the end.
milleralive 2 years ago
Fischers edge in rating in 1975 would have been about 80 elo points over Karpov about the same as Kasparov over Kramnik in 2000.
Fischer was superb but he was scared of losing until he was actually playing then ironically he was not scared and wouldplay on and onf or the win.
ChessChat 2 years ago
It's still a draw after Bxh2 with perfect play
Fupper16 2 years ago
Commas aren't periods son.
subatom101 2 years ago
A comma belongs before the word "son."
Orbusii 2 years ago 2
You're right about that one. Fischer lost a piece, so it's a bad move. I'm no chess genius, but I can see that much. A calculation error is only a great move if a loss is the goal.
subatom101 2 years ago
Fischer did this on purpose. It wasn't on accident or an overlook. Just a psychological move for him. Remember how many games he won after this.
gmwillis07 2 years ago 3
Yeah sure...you always do that when you've never won a game against a guy :-)
gabisubis 2 years ago
An absurd blunder for such an amazing grandmaster. It must have been the cameras :)
subatom101 3 years ago 2
not a blunder, but an extremely great move !
he is telling Spassky that he's a rotten endgame player, giving himself the psychological edge.
Or it could be a calculation error by Fischer, he's a human after all.
BenBlunt1 2 years ago 16
@BenBlunt1 A blunder it was. Fischer laughed at himself for taking the pawn after the game.
bigreese46240 1 year ago
@BenBlunt1 not an extremely great move. It is a losing move.
Ruxistico 1 year ago
@Ruxistico Its not at all a losing move. Played correctly, it gives Fischer the only winning chances and is a draw with perfect play.
philnoll 1 year ago
@philnoll I have a 6-piece endgame tablebase, an 8 core computer, Rybka 4, Stockfish, Shredder and Fritz 12 - and I have to disagree.
Ruxistico 1 year ago
@Ruxistico I have done the analysis myself and confirmed it with various computers. You can't always trust the score the computer gives, and I'm willing to play the position against any one of your engines to prove its a draw.
Try setting up the position White: Ke5 Pa5, Pb6, Bg5 Black: Ka8 Pa6 Pb7
That position is a dead draw, but since there's 7 pieces and no way to force trades, the computer registers this at +4 points.
philnoll 1 year ago
@philnoll let's do that! Sounds like great fun. We'll set it up on Rybka-forum and then make a vid about the results.
Ruxistico 1 year ago
@Ruxistico Okay, like a correspondence setting there? Sounds fun. I registered an account there called FilthyChess. Let's try it out.
philnoll 1 year ago
@philnoll exactly. We play until we reach a tablebase. I think we should have a relaxed attitude towards time/move demands, since we are both busy people and we both want to find the correct result. If we can conclude anything with certainty it will be of historic value. I will get back to you when I've set up a profile for this game! May the best man win - no, may the truth prevail!
Ruxistico 1 year ago
@Ruxistico I'll agree to that, except not every outcome is guaranteed to reach tablebases. Some positions we would have to just agree on a draw, or institute the 50 move rule.
philnoll 1 year ago
@philnoll hey you 2 guys, let youtubers know the result when you're done please :)
mattoita 1 year ago
@BenBlunt1 How is he telling Spassky he's a rotten endgame player?
MoPar7055 1 year ago
@BenBlunt1 Interesting theory, but probably not. Spassky would have doubtlessly seen other games Fischer had played
ak47mustang 10 months ago
Fisher: Bxh2?????? he give this game away,...!! to SPASKY
faustooo2000 3 years ago
o yeahh :(
fischer is my fav
nirvanagirlvt39new 3 years ago
his chess expertise would have eased a transition into the world of high stakes checkers...the current world champ is a big guy names billy bob who lives in alabama and wears overalls
joeglimmix 3 years ago
LOL
yeahyeah1821 2 years ago
Why did Bobby acted so UNthoughtful here? that cost him the game
ElFrankus 3 years ago
29 ... Bxh2 ?! ce coup n'est pas ridicule, il semble perdant mais le sacrifice du fou donne à Fischer 2 pions libres sur les colonnes E et G avec son roi au milieu de l'échiquier, même si le coup Bxh2 est douteux c'est la fin de partie approximative de Fischer (alors que c'est un de ses points forts) et la solidité de Spassky qui donne la victoire à ce dernier.
GrRegulus 3 years ago
Fischer reminds me of a film featuring Tom Hanks, who played a character who had obsessive tendencies. But he was very good at what he turned his hands too. Fischer gave up chess in the same way Forrest gave up running.
simoncuming41 3 years ago
Don't you love how Youtube takes the comments to videos and shuffles them like a deck of cards? It's not chronological, it's not threaded, it's in some weird hybrid order that defies explanation. Wonderful.
Snootwaller 3 years ago 5
So many times I've posted a comment on a video but it never appears. Its so frustrating. Whats the reason?
momin8888 3 years ago
you got to refresh the page you turnip
diamondsfan1 3 years ago
maybe the video author saw your comment and deleted it.
DeepGlue555 3 years ago
comments are filtered for quality before posting. if you want one to slip through you need to sound more intelligent. include statements like 'henceforth' and 'I do believe, good sir' and you'll be set
joeglimmix 3 years ago
What was in Fisher's head when he captured that pawn on h2
momin8888 3 years ago
The world will never know. Combine this with the forfeit on game #2 and it's almost as if Fischer was acting out the famous poem "Casey at the Bat", letting two balls whizz past him before rolling up his sleeves and knocking it out of the park. But unlike the Mighty Casey, Fischer did not strike out.
Snootwaller 3 years ago
can anyone tell me wut there writting....
adrean85si 3 years ago 3
They write down the moves. Basically, "recording" the game.
fatesofgreedom 3 years ago
They are writing down there moves.
so they can analyze it when the game is finished.
huazi86 3 years ago
And to be able to reconstruct the game in case of any accidental incident. In every important event since over 100 years chess games are recorded this way.
YTM021807 3 years ago
he's got nice hair.
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sxmadrid 3 years ago
dale ganas pinche bobby Fischer loco guey!! Good game on both sides to the bitter end!
Faztlan 3 years ago
for bobby it was reasonable that he never defend his title and did all to avoid the world championship against karpow.he was a great player but there is no doubt that he hadn't a real chance against him. he knowed good that karpow would have destroyed in that match.
maddes111 3 years ago
People will thumbs down you for this, but I completely agree. Karpov seems to agree with you too, although he's very graciuos
roddiero 3 years ago
Don't misunderstand me.I know that Fisher was a great Champion and i know what he did for the popularity of chess. He played a lot of awesome games. But he knew that Karpow was another category as Spasski and all of his former opponents.
maddes111 3 years ago
"Soviet Grandmasters privately scoffed at Karpov's chances in 1975. Most pundits believed he would lose... and lose badly. . . . Karpov knew he could hardly draw a game with Fischer, never mind winning one or two games. His only chance was to disrupt the match. So a whole arsenal of tricks was worked out, designed to upset the sensitive American, unaccustomed to such methods." -- GM Lev Alburt
Snootwaller 3 years ago
I know that! But how much tricks used fisher to confuse Spasski at the worldchampionship 1972??? Mind games have always been a part of chess.Fisher realized that he got a very serious opponent. It's not only my opinion Kasparows mentioned it also several times. Otherwise Fisher wouldn't put down his titel and go to retirement. Fisher was all but not a good sport.A defeat against Karpov would have destroyed him.
maddes111 3 years ago
I'm not sure if Fischer raised objections to the cameras as a way of unsettling Spassky, or if he was sincerely distracted by the noise that they made. (Cameras in the early 70's were gigantic devices that made all sorts of noise, not like the slick digital devices we use today.) I'm sure that Fischer realized that Karpov was a very strong player as well, but I don't think he was afraid. Fischer was incapable of feeling the emotion of "fear" ... that's what made him great.
Snootwaller 3 years ago
It was FIDE who refused to accept the "Cramer Proposal" for match format (first to 10 wins is champion, and a 9-9 score is a draw and the champ retains the title). In the end the FIDE delegates voted 35-32 against. That's a very narrow margin. Had two other countries accepted the Cramer proposal, the match would have happened. So who was running from whom?
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filpalm92 3 years ago
The irony is that because Fischer got the cameras banned the only game we have on film from 1972 is this one where he admitted himself that he played like a fish. But not his epics like 3,5, 10, 13 or 6
ChessChat 3 years ago
The verdict on Bxh2 may be that the move draws. Anyway, I think it was a good practical chance. Fischer is under pressure in the endgame, even if it was drawn. I don't think I've ever heard Spassky renowned as an endgame master, but it still looks pretty difficult for black.
youvebeenthunderstru 3 years ago
increible
RioOt 3 years ago
God i love chess but not like that in the obsessed way If anybody wanna play me hit me up
Magnet227 3 years ago
this is a mistake that even the non grand-master can see
erlico82 3 years ago
As Spassky himself has said, it wasn't anything but a very risky attempt by Fischer to unbalance the game and gain winning chances. So many articles have been written about this move - a mistake? Definitely. Genius in action? Definitely. A non-GM wouldn't even have considered it, and that's why they'll never be World Champion. Unlike Fischer, natch ;-)
hrvyklly 3 years ago 3
I don't think that a non-grandmaster would have never considered it! Many National masters would have probably considered such a move and would have seen it leads to loss after a bit of analysis. Probably top grandmasters would have abandon this sacrifice by first glance. Fisher is probably the second best chess player (for me Garry is the best) but he suffered a bad illness. He always considered he was invisible!!! If in chess you don't have a rational understanding of danger then you lose :)
theoak111 3 years ago
What about karpov?
furrer08 3 years ago
Karpov was great. One of my best actually! His play did not have that universal appeal and besides his striking positional skills and endgame mastery he was never the most impressive player! Anand, Topalov and some of the new generation are probably already candidates for 2nd-3rd positions. When Karpov made a move almost everyone could understand the reason it was made.
theoak111 3 years ago
Some said that some of his moves were so deep postitional that NO ONE could understand them.
furrer08 3 years ago
My girlfriend always says I'm deep positional. I never knew what she meant.
greg5566 3 years ago
this video is about chess, don't flood here =.=. and keep ur hate, noone cares about it, it's harmfull for yourselves.
MamatIUB 3 years ago 3
whats so bad about jewish people you asshole?!
BCDPRODUCTIONS1234 3 years ago
what is so good about them? they come to your country, rule it, after sell it :D. there is a good phrase in jewish community, it says "if jews will build their own country one day they sell it".
MamatIUB 3 years ago
Funny, I've never ruled nor sold a country. Sounds like a board game.
PS Black-and-white thinking works primarily in chess and few other places. Just a thought.
fairalways 3 years ago
maybe u ask your parents then? it's a jewish quote =).
MamatIUB 3 years ago
u motherfucking son of a bitch!!! every jew is more than a houndret times betta than u crappy piece of shit!! and adolf hitler was a gay tiny asshole and he didnt even desere it to breath the air of a jew! (for everyone who reads this,...i'm not a jew)
tobben7777777 3 years ago
then you are an idiot :D.
MamatIUB 3 years ago
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Dumbass.
GrandPatzer 4 years ago
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Spassky, the real classy man out here.
Fischer, lunatic, insane chess genious. I hope you rot in hell...
spriteofbones 4 years ago
fischer was a genius at the cheessboard and no where else. fools who comment on his high IQ as if it signified some kind of universe intelligence only make jackasses of themselves. stop deifying him as if his talent at the board translated beyond it. he was a venomous fool.
ellston 4 years ago
Dzzz. Ellston Come on.. Bobby Fischer a fool? Its very commun 2 see genious going wild.. Bobby fischer had 170 Iq .. (He did some test) And by the way he was playing chess. There is no way he can be stupid . lol
pipo2007654321 3 years ago
fischer died with his hatred for the jews, so dont speak senseless
zionburner 4 years ago
seka: you know that fischer was ANTI USA and ANTI JEWS?!
i guess not!
dephnite 4 years ago
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and? there are so many people who hate other people! i hate america to!
beertjan 4 years ago
Al final gano
cortomaltes1971 4 years ago
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Only a great country like the USA can produce a genius maverick like Fischer.
seka1986 4 years ago
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hahaha the great MASTER Bobby was J E W !!!!
Nodoubteron 4 years ago
Good, even better!
seka1986 4 years ago 2
Fischer will always be the best chess player in world...dead or not...no one is better...I wish he was still alive and still playing so he could crush Kasparov and all those other top knotch gm's in games straight
DtheProfessor23 4 years ago 7
WORD UP!
seka1986 4 years ago
thats right, it will be a long time before we see anyone as good, but its safe to say he will be an american as well.
Wickgic 4 years ago
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USA! USA! USA!
seka1986 4 years ago
Where is your evidence for that?
rob2011r 4 years ago
WTF? jajajja nooooooo! no puede perder asi,
que mala jugada, aunque fue un buen intento para
provocar al oponente
Nodoubteron 4 years ago
Spassky's hair wins.
eastweymouthchris 4 years ago 9
White as like a .1 ercent advatage i think and spasky got creamed
NYCHARLEM212 4 years ago
i may be stupid... but how did he win???
thestillknight 4 years ago
white queens easy after he sacrifices his bishop for the pawn
im surprised spassky made such a bad mistake there at the end
246trinitrotoluene 4 years ago