7.62 x25 is a very hot round in my opinion way more potent than 9mm.there is modern ammo available some of it over 2000 fps.it is more like a small rifle round than a handgun cartridge,this round rocks!
Great video, as it answered a few queries about the weapon that we had, as we are seeking to buy a few for the collection and found a source that has a shipment of lot of un-issued weapons. As for the firing pin how completed would it be to replace it and would advise to have a replacement at the ready for stock? Thanks again great and informative video
@BennyTheJett1 I've had both of my CZ-52's for 15 years and I've never had a firing pin break. It's not hard to replace if it does get broken, though. As long as you don't dry fire it (pulling the trigger and having the hammer slam the firing pin into an EMPTY chamber) it probably will never break. I've forgotten and dry fired a few times and nothing broke but I wouldn't want to push my luck.
nice video.it touched on alot of good points.when i bought my cz 52 i wanted to make it as reliable as possible so i replaced the problematic cast firing pin.i also polished the feed ramp and purchased a new magazine because the weapon is over 50 years old and the springs in the magazines can be weak and cause jams. other than that i installed some textured black plastic grips for better feel and looks
@turboboy0 the key to cast firing pin life isby not dry firing it. I've thought about getting forged ones but so far my cast ones (in both my 52's) are still good to go. If your keeping a 52 for defensive purposes then it might be better to go with the forged one just to be on the safe side, though.
@3OCALM1 this is just a fun gun. for the home i have a micro desert eagle.380 and a taurus 357 magnum revolver.i just get bored sometimes and want to improve some of my old weapons. i do not like to dry fire any weapon.
30calm1 nice vid these are great guns for the money an ammo prices are right the cz 52 n cz 82 are good buys to stock pile for shtf senarios they are afordable reliable an would be worth there weight in gold if sthf ever does happen my question is where can i find a cz 52?
well I would take 1911 against niggas too, while against some Blackwater scum confiscating guns(like in New Orleans) I would take CZ52 rather ,btw there are cartriges for CZ52 on market which have over 2000 fps and that is not bad
@3OCALM1 so which pistol is better? whole 9mm stuff is a crap, 1911 has poor balistics and can not defeat body armor and FN 5.7x28 is costly as hell ...
@ww2footage The attraction for me was that sinister look to it and that it was only $130 and I bought another one later for like $115.
Even as fast as it is the 7.62X25 is only an 85 grain .30 caliber handgun bullet. I'd put more faith in a 124 gr 9mm FMJ or better yet a .45. The only advantage would be penetration of some body armor but I wouldn't expect much in the form of immediate incapacitation for whoever s in the body armor.
@3OCALM1 Don't be fooled, Sir. Hot Tokarev rounds will defeat lower level ballistic armor ballistic armor. Just something to be aware of. In its day, the Tokarev was a wonderful round, even by today's standard. Think of it as an early day analogue to the .357sig
Brother I picked up a CZ-53 and its says it's a 7.62X45 round, Now I'm not great about ammo and nether is my local gun shop. His telling me that I need to buy 9MM rounds for my new handgun. Is this correct or do i need a different type of bullet. I'm having a hard time finding the ammo for this.
unless your gun has been upgraded to a 9mm which is commonly done with these do not use anything other than a 7.62x25 round. which in opinion is much better than 9mm
Most all CZ-52's are in thier original caliber of 7.62X25mm. There have been some converted to 9mm by swapping barrels with an aftermarked 9mm barrel.
I can assure you that if you try to fire a 9mm round in a 7.62x25mm chamber..............................well, it WILL fire but that 9mm bullet isn't going to go through that 7.62 barrel. Instead all the pressure (tons of it) are going to vent somehow and likely injur you and destroy your handgun.
to someone that knows what to look for and have them look at it.
Not being able to see it I can't say for sure one way or the other. All I can say is that it may be in either caliber and DON'T shoot it until you know for sure.
If it turns out to be a 7.62 then I'd look online for ammo because a lot of shops don't stock it.
Also, military surplus ammo in this caliber is almost certain to be corrosive.
I think S&B still makes commercial ammo for it and maybe a few others, too.
The CZ-52 rifle fires the 7.62x45 intermediate round, which is way too long to ever confuse with a pistol round. CZ-52 pistols fire the 7.62x25.
The "CZ-53"s which are just converted 52s fire 9mm. You don't have to worry about accidentally firing 9mm in a 7.62x25 because it won't fit in the chamber.
If you're not sure though, just pull the slide off and put a round in the barrel. The correct one will fit, the wrong one won't.
"Came with a lanyard too....looks like a little dog leash" hahaha I thought the same thing when I saw what some of them came with. Nice video and nice gun. Cant wait to get my 52.
It's on the right side of the frame. There will be two crossed swords and the last two digits of the year. Most are 53 or 54 and 52's are not as common.
It was originally designed as a 9mm parabellum since it's a Czech handgun and not Russian. Being a Warsaw Pact nation, though, the U.S.S.R. mandated their 7.62X25mm round to its satelite nations.
I'm not sure what you mean by successful but doubt it would have been any better off in 9mm since that handgun design itself became outdated in time.
I think Czechoslovakia would have been as well off to just adopt the Tokarev TT33 but I suppose national pride had something to do with it.
Thanks for the informative video. I just bought a 1953 that had never been fired. Casings kept getting stuck in the barrel. I had to use a chopstick to punch them out. I used lapping compound to buff out all the imperfections in the barrel. Now the casings eject properly.
Best thing would be to do a general search for "CZ52 parts" and see what comes up. I haven't had to buy any for mine yet so I can't say who's better. I'm pretty sure Numrich has parts for them and they've been pretty decent lately. They used to sell a lot of shitty parts but I have to give them credit for improving, at least as far as the business I've done with them.
The only problems I've had with mine have had to do with misfires that were probably due to hard or somewhat deteriorated primers. I haven't had any stoppages in the form of failure to feed or eject.
There have been some lots of reportedly bad surplus ammo from Romania several years ago that was way too hot and blew up a pistol or two. I don't know if those reports were bullshit or not.
Most of the surplus ammo I've used was good enough but all of it is corrosive.
I had some 1952 Czech ammo(headstamp bxn 52) that had turned bad, I guess. A lot of them took several attempts to fire due to bad primers and some wouldnt fire at all. Also, they were very insonsistent in power; a loud BANG followed by a sorry underpowered POP.
Thats about the only really bad ammo I've ever had for mine.
If you're buying surplus in bulk it help's to do somre research on some of the surplus gun message boards to see if there are any good or bad reports on it.
You need a C&R FFL to mail order C&R weapons. I don't remember for sure if the CZ52 is on the C&R list or not but I think it is. I bought this one at a gun show.
Whether you need a permit to own one (or any other firearm) depends on the laws where you live.
Some say that the 7.62 Tok is substantially more powerful than the 9mm Parabellum but I tend to doubt it because of the smaller lighter bullet of the 7.62, even if it is faster.
It will penetrate deeper but I can't see that small light bullet, usually an FMJ bullet, doing as much damage as a modern hi-velocity 9mm with a well designed expanding bullet.
Accuracy is comparable with a typical 9mm, I guess.
Thanks. I had heard about its power because I heard it said that the 7.62/7.63, being a bottle-neck round, was supposed to have the most penetration power of any pistol until the invention of .357 magnum. That was supposed to be the rationale behind why the Russian switched from .44 S&W to 7.62 in the 1890s.
Penetration is one the Tokerev's claim to fame. The 7.62X25 round EASILY penetrates kevlar helmets and vests. Most of the surplus ammo on the market is actually a sub-machine gun round with a very hot load to provide the blow-back necessary to operate the action.
i dont know where you're looking at ammo at but i pay about 4 cents/round. and it actually has great stopping power since i have taken down 8 pointers with just one round.
Low cost (when I got mine), sinister comblock appearance that I thought was cool.
Cons;
Shitty ergonomics (steep grip angle, awkward safety, smallish sights, mediocre trigger, etc...), ammo not as readily availibe as other calibers (9mm, .45, 40), questionable stopping power as a defensive round.
It really depends on what you consider desirable and what you want it for. It's more of a cold war relic than a serious defensive or sporting handgun.
I've looked at those and considered them, but thought they were kind of ugly ducklings. The first time I saw one I was surprised at how big they are. Thanks for this video it gave me a better idea of how they take down and function!
I got it when they were plentiful and cheap. It had that sinister commie Warsaw Pact look to it so that and the cheap price tag pretty much made me buy it.
It's fun to shoot once in a while but for the most part it's little more than a relic of a bygone era.
I wouldn't consider it to be a serious defensive handgun.
I think the supply of these has just about dried up. I used to see them at EVERY gun show but not lately. Try one of the dealers online that specialize in mil-surp guns.
7.62 x25 is a very hot round in my opinion way more potent than 9mm.there is modern ammo available some of it over 2000 fps.it is more like a small rifle round than a handgun cartridge,this round rocks!
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son8god8damn 4 weeks ago
30CALM1 Hello! thanks for the heads up! Much appreciated, as I enjoy the simple method to field strip the weapon. Tks
BennyTheJett1 1 month ago
Great video, as it answered a few queries about the weapon that we had, as we are seeking to buy a few for the collection and found a source that has a shipment of lot of un-issued weapons. As for the firing pin how completed would it be to replace it and would advise to have a replacement at the ready for stock? Thanks again great and informative video
BennyTheJett1 1 month ago
@BennyTheJett1 I've had both of my CZ-52's for 15 years and I've never had a firing pin break. It's not hard to replace if it does get broken, though. As long as you don't dry fire it (pulling the trigger and having the hammer slam the firing pin into an EMPTY chamber) it probably will never break. I've forgotten and dry fired a few times and nothing broke but I wouldn't want to push my luck.
3OCALM1 1 month ago
nice video.it touched on alot of good points.when i bought my cz 52 i wanted to make it as reliable as possible so i replaced the problematic cast firing pin.i also polished the feed ramp and purchased a new magazine because the weapon is over 50 years old and the springs in the magazines can be weak and cause jams. other than that i installed some textured black plastic grips for better feel and looks
turboboy0 1 year ago
@turboboy0 the key to cast firing pin life isby not dry firing it. I've thought about getting forged ones but so far my cast ones (in both my 52's) are still good to go. If your keeping a 52 for defensive purposes then it might be better to go with the forged one just to be on the safe side, though.
3OCALM1 1 year ago
@3OCALM1 this is just a fun gun. for the home i have a micro desert eagle.380 and a taurus 357 magnum revolver.i just get bored sometimes and want to improve some of my old weapons. i do not like to dry fire any weapon.
turboboy0 1 year ago
30calm1 nice vid these are great guns for the money an ammo prices are right the cz 52 n cz 82 are good buys to stock pile for shtf senarios they are afordable reliable an would be worth there weight in gold if sthf ever does happen my question is where can i find a cz 52?
WIRLIEGIGGLE1 1 year ago
@WIRLIEGIGGLE1 they were fairly abundant on the surplus market for several years but that has dried up. The prices have gone up, too.
Only thing you can do is check out the gun shops and gun shows.
3OCALM1 1 year ago
its like a tt 33 but more long
kjsh987 1 year ago
well I would take 1911 against niggas too, while against some Blackwater scum confiscating guns(like in New Orleans) I would take CZ52 rather ,btw there are cartriges for CZ52 on market which have over 2000 fps and that is not bad
ww2footage 1 year ago
@ww2footage I didn't know Blackwater was involved with the New Orleans gun confiscation thing.
Who makes that 2000 FPS ammo?
3OCALM1 1 year ago
@3OCALM1 ammo-one.com/ 223Timbs.html
ww2footage 1 year ago
This pistol is serious biz, real beast ,some call it the best pistol ever
ww2footage 1 year ago
@ww2footage Anyone who thinks the CZ-52 is the best pistol ever needs to get out more.
3OCALM1 1 year ago
@3OCALM1 so which pistol is better? whole 9mm stuff is a crap, 1911 has poor balistics and can not defeat body armor and FN 5.7x28 is costly as hell ...
ww2footage 1 year ago
@ww2footage The attraction for me was that sinister look to it and that it was only $130 and I bought another one later for like $115.
Even as fast as it is the 7.62X25 is only an 85 grain .30 caliber handgun bullet. I'd put more faith in a 124 gr 9mm FMJ or better yet a .45. The only advantage would be penetration of some body armor but I wouldn't expect much in the form of immediate incapacitation for whoever s in the body armor.
The pistol itself has shitty ergonomics, too.
3OCALM1 1 year ago
@3OCALM1 Don't be fooled, Sir. Hot Tokarev rounds will defeat lower level ballistic armor ballistic armor. Just something to be aware of. In its day, the Tokarev was a wonderful round, even by today's standard. Think of it as an early day analogue to the .357sig
DrStoooopid 1 year ago
The roller delayed blowback mechanism is great. Would love to own one of these here in germany.
88manta88 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this video. I got my cz52 last weekend, and hit the range with it for the first time on Saturday. Should be a good day.
gosec23 2 years ago
interesting gun, is it hard to get one of those?
gasmask120 2 years ago
Should be easy to find.
For several years they nearly flooded the surplus arms market in the US and that ended not too long ago.
Finding one should be easy and still relatively inexpensive.
3OCALM1 2 years ago
good info.
kbrantley1979 2 years ago
Good info and video.
CrashFactory666 2 years ago
Brother I picked up a CZ-53 and its says it's a 7.62X45 round, Now I'm not great about ammo and nether is my local gun shop. His telling me that I need to buy 9MM rounds for my new handgun. Is this correct or do i need a different type of bullet. I'm having a hard time finding the ammo for this.
sdaugh7261 2 years ago
unless your gun has been upgraded to a 9mm which is commonly done with these do not use anything other than a 7.62x25 round. which in opinion is much better than 9mm
TheEnder554 2 years ago 2
Most all CZ-52's are in thier original caliber of 7.62X25mm. There have been some converted to 9mm by swapping barrels with an aftermarked 9mm barrel.
I can assure you that if you try to fire a 9mm round in a 7.62x25mm chamber..............................well, it WILL fire but that 9mm bullet isn't going to go through that 7.62 barrel. Instead all the pressure (tons of it) are going to vent somehow and likely injur you and destroy your handgun.
If you're not sure about it then take it contd>
3OCALM1 2 years ago
to someone that knows what to look for and have them look at it.
Not being able to see it I can't say for sure one way or the other. All I can say is that it may be in either caliber and DON'T shoot it until you know for sure.
If it turns out to be a 7.62 then I'd look online for ammo because a lot of shops don't stock it.
Also, military surplus ammo in this caliber is almost certain to be corrosive.
I think S&B still makes commercial ammo for it and maybe a few others, too.
Good luck!
3OCALM1 2 years ago
The CZ-52 rifle fires the 7.62x45 intermediate round, which is way too long to ever confuse with a pistol round. CZ-52 pistols fire the 7.62x25.
The "CZ-53"s which are just converted 52s fire 9mm. You don't have to worry about accidentally firing 9mm in a 7.62x25 because it won't fit in the chamber.
If you're not sure though, just pull the slide off and put a round in the barrel. The correct one will fit, the wrong one won't.
bobbytimberlake 2 years ago
"Came with a lanyard too....looks like a little dog leash" hahaha I thought the same thing when I saw what some of them came with. Nice video and nice gun. Cant wait to get my 52.
camarokid95 2 years ago
It's on the right side of the frame. There will be two crossed swords and the last two digits of the year. Most are 53 or 54 and 52's are not as common.
3OCALM1 2 years ago
I may be mistaken, but are there replacement barrels that the factory made to convert it to 9mm?
radioblueheart 2 years ago
There are aftermarket 9mm barrels for them.
I've never tried one, though
3OCALM1 2 years ago
Interesting. Do you think this pistol would have been more successful in that caliber?
radioblueheart 2 years ago
It was originally designed as a 9mm parabellum since it's a Czech handgun and not Russian. Being a Warsaw Pact nation, though, the U.S.S.R. mandated their 7.62X25mm round to its satelite nations.
I'm not sure what you mean by successful but doubt it would have been any better off in 9mm since that handgun design itself became outdated in time.
I think Czechoslovakia would have been as well off to just adopt the Tokarev TT33 but I suppose national pride had something to do with it.
3OCALM1 2 years ago
damn i love my cz and you cant get handgun ammo for cheaper and armor piercing to boot
STUDMUFFINUSA69 2 years ago
Thanks for the informative video. I just bought a 1953 that had never been fired. Casings kept getting stuck in the barrel. I had to use a chopstick to punch them out. I used lapping compound to buff out all the imperfections in the barrel. Now the casings eject properly.
BourneAccident 2 years ago
It's good that you got it working.
By your description I would have suspected a bad extractor or extractor spring, though.
3OCALM1 2 years ago
Best thing would be to do a general search for "CZ52 parts" and see what comes up. I haven't had to buy any for mine yet so I can't say who's better. I'm pretty sure Numrich has parts for them and they've been pretty decent lately. They used to sell a lot of shitty parts but I have to give them credit for improving, at least as far as the business I've done with them.
Good luck.
3OCALM1 3 years ago
I have a CZ52, but I'm finding it jams a lot.
It uses a very HOT load, and my casings are almost all split open after they're ejected.
Have you had frequent jams with yours? I'm attributing my issues to the surplus ammo I use. Have you found better quality ammo?
DeathScouter 3 years ago
The only problems I've had with mine have had to do with misfires that were probably due to hard or somewhat deteriorated primers. I haven't had any stoppages in the form of failure to feed or eject.
There have been some lots of reportedly bad surplus ammo from Romania several years ago that was way too hot and blew up a pistol or two. I don't know if those reports were bullshit or not.
Most of the surplus ammo I've used was good enough but all of it is corrosive.
3OCALM1 3 years ago
I had some 1952 Czech ammo(headstamp bxn 52) that had turned bad, I guess. A lot of them took several attempts to fire due to bad primers and some wouldnt fire at all. Also, they were very insonsistent in power; a loud BANG followed by a sorry underpowered POP.
Thats about the only really bad ammo I've ever had for mine.
If you're buying surplus in bulk it help's to do somre research on some of the surplus gun message boards to see if there are any good or bad reports on it.
HTH
3OCALM1 3 years ago
does it require a permit like a C&R or something?
AdmiralGST 3 years ago
You need a C&R FFL to mail order C&R weapons. I don't remember for sure if the CZ52 is on the C&R list or not but I think it is. I bought this one at a gun show.
Whether you need a permit to own one (or any other firearm) depends on the laws where you live.
3OCALM1 3 years ago
where would i check the state laws? I live in NH so i'm sure that i would be able to owan one with out any permit
AdmiralGST 3 years ago
I have never fired anything in 7.62 before. How would you compare firing it to western cartridges like .32, various 9mm, .40 0r .38?
I have heard that 7.62 is has better range, accuracy and penetration that 9mm para. Is this true?
radioblueheart 3 years ago
Recoil seems a little stouter than a 9mm.
Some say that the 7.62 Tok is substantially more powerful than the 9mm Parabellum but I tend to doubt it because of the smaller lighter bullet of the 7.62, even if it is faster.
It will penetrate deeper but I can't see that small light bullet, usually an FMJ bullet, doing as much damage as a modern hi-velocity 9mm with a well designed expanding bullet.
Accuracy is comparable with a typical 9mm, I guess.
3OCALM1 3 years ago
Thanks. I had heard about its power because I heard it said that the 7.62/7.63, being a bottle-neck round, was supposed to have the most penetration power of any pistol until the invention of .357 magnum. That was supposed to be the rationale behind why the Russian switched from .44 S&W to 7.62 in the 1890s.
What do you think having shot it?
radioblueheart 3 years ago
Penetration is one the Tokerev's claim to fame. The 7.62X25 round EASILY penetrates kevlar helmets and vests. Most of the surplus ammo on the market is actually a sub-machine gun round with a very hot load to provide the blow-back necessary to operate the action.
DeathScouter 3 years ago
Good question. I haven't bought any in that caliber in a long time so I really don't know.
3OCALM1 3 years ago
well where is a good place to get ammo for a cz-52 thats dirt cheep?
ultamitducttape2020 3 years ago
NICe nice! in latvia CZ-52 costs 80LS its a little bigger than TT !
OGRON47 3 years ago
I'd like to have a Tokarev TT but most all of the ones imported into the U.S. have a stupid safety added in order to comply with import laws.
3OCALM1 3 years ago
well you can just say TT ! well TT have really nice caliber !
OGRON47 3 years ago
i dont know where you're looking at ammo at but i pay about 4 cents/round. and it actually has great stopping power since i have taken down 8 pointers with just one round.
xjaronx 3 years ago
any info on how to decode the numbers off of as CZ52? i just picked one up for 100$
rmodel65 3 years ago
I have been looking at these pistols as of late and I am on the fence about purchasing one. What are the pros/cons for a CZ 52?
chimonkey123 3 years ago
Pros;
Low cost (when I got mine), sinister comblock appearance that I thought was cool.
Cons;
Shitty ergonomics (steep grip angle, awkward safety, smallish sights, mediocre trigger, etc...), ammo not as readily availibe as other calibers (9mm, .45, 40), questionable stopping power as a defensive round.
It really depends on what you consider desirable and what you want it for. It's more of a cold war relic than a serious defensive or sporting handgun.
Fun to shoot sometimes.
3OCALM1 3 years ago
I've looked at those and considered them, but thought they were kind of ugly ducklings. The first time I saw one I was surprised at how big they are. Thanks for this video it gave me a better idea of how they take down and function!
Great Job! =]
rugersix 3 years ago
Thanks!
I got it when they were plentiful and cheap. It had that sinister commie Warsaw Pact look to it so that and the cheap price tag pretty much made me buy it.
It's fun to shoot once in a while but for the most part it's little more than a relic of a bygone era.
I wouldn't consider it to be a serious defensive handgun.
3OCALM1 3 years ago
hey man would you recomend this handgun, as a target, small game hunting handgun? is it reliable, and do you think it would last me a long time
thanks
clogspecialist 3 years ago
For target and small game I think you'd be better off with a good .22 pistol with adjustable sights.
1. The CZ52 does not have adjustable sights.
2. Accuracy isn't too bad but not nearly as good as a decent .22.
3. 7.62X25 Ammo is a lot more expensive than .22.
4. It's probably too much gun for squirrels if you can even hit one with it.
5. Shitty ergonomics.
It'll probably last a long time and mine has been reliable but I'd still go with a .22 for what you want to do.
Hope this helps.
3OCALM1 3 years ago
does it have last round hold open?
kleshnikov47 3 years ago
Yes.
3OCALM1 3 years ago
I think the supply of these has just about dried up. I used to see them at EVERY gun show but not lately. Try one of the dealers online that specialize in mil-surp guns.
3OCALM1 3 years ago
do you or anyone else know where i can get one of these? been to several gun shows and haven't seen any.
Renpopo 3 years ago