Scientology was built on a foundation of lies[Hubbards fake credentials and claims].In order to sustain itself and continue on it must be perpetuated by more lies.
Its pretty simple why they dont talk to you cause they cant control or (handle) you and you will cause doubt in the ones who try. Tory I dont believe that they actually screwed up your case--they just say that so others and you will think that scientology really works it just missapplied! You know they would never fi you for free thats against thier nature! It was a set up and then they would roll out a policy that says we cannot do it for fre yaada yaada ....
You're so right about the control. This is even true online; the worst online bullies will block you once they realize they can't control the situation. Of course that's their right, but it says something when they're okay posting lies and insults, but block civil questions based on facts.
thank you trinity12357 i think you for got a 4 in the number sequence. lol I think the worst bullies online wont ever let you put a comment in the first place(most scientology stuff disable the comments).
I never bought the idea that you must stop communicating with your friend just because some HCO dickwad felt like declaring them suppressive. Of course, my friends in the church are not allowed to talk to me because they might commit the biggest Scientology crime of all - independent thought.
Tory, no-one who has watched your videos or seen you speak in public would believe such a crass lie. The more they run these ridiculous programs of dis-information against people, the more they will get "hoisted by their own petard". Especially when they use non-Scios to do their grass-roots dirty work.
Glad to see you are hail, hearty, and still up for the fight. And I hope the alarm we heard was a just an ordinary port sniffer getting it's nose smacked.
L. Ron Hubbard was a liar, and he DID write "Fair Game" which says "you can lie, cheat, steal, destroy someone utterly".
Those "in" are sure this was Cancelled, as was I.
Was it? Their words are proof. Even IF this jerk is a v-troll, which I doubt (as it follows their actions 100%)---he's posting over and over Their flat out lies. So who cares? The point is: They lie, people post it. Learn the truth: L. Ron Hubbard was a liar, and promoted lies against ***anyone*** critical of him.
Could be, but I watched Bill Yaude (OT 7, Class 8) lie to the critics for years. He told me the 3 goals of OSA, on the Net, are: 1) Distract off of Scientology ANY way you can 2) Degrade any X-Scientologists or critics who are exposing facts and information 3) Slime every area so people don't even want to post there.
So whether he's a troll of running one of their programs (which he did get critics--non--scios --to run his programs) or actually one of them, doesn't matter: it's creepy.
i found a scientology letter in my mailbox today so i was so shocked cause i hate scientology so i tore it up. I hope i dont start getting harrased by them cause it was addressed to me specifically. But heres the weird thing I have NEVER contacted scientology cause i think there a bunch on brainwashing nutcases. Im in Melbourne Australia and there here to. Any way i love your site tory keep up the good fight.
It´s logical they try to defame you Tory, because they are desperate; but no matter what they say, they always lie, and you speak with the truth. We are with you.
Every time I comment Tory, especially with a compliment of her - and a criticism of $cientology, I get a pm by some Sea Org drone with lies about Tory, or at a minimum, an insult. Their biggest thing is to turn things around by suggesting that Tory supporters, XenuTV subscribers, and anonymous, are cult members, with Tory as the cult leader. It's really childish and blatantly stupid - it's like being called a 'poopyhead' or something equally infantile. lol. GO TORY!
Hey Tory, this toryluvslrh2 character was (maybe still is) basically a fulltime v-log troll. He and his accomplices like vaLLarrr and Robyonder have been consistently pasting lies about you, $cientology and Anon since early last year.
toryluvslrh uses threats of physical violence and even threatened to kill me once when I made him look a fool by refuting his BS
He is mysoginistic and repugnant. That he can stand out as a $ci-troll is remarkable
Where is it that we can subscribe to this Scientology spew? I have been "dead lettered" by a totally unrelated non-cult group; if you quit they love to smear you. Do they have a FaceBook group, "Tory Magoo is a Doo-Doo Head"? I'd subscribe, lol!
They use black propaganda and Censorship, they do this to keep their church alive, to keep their members inside. The people in controll of this are at the bottom of the dirt.
I keep having a funny vision of Bela Lugosi in DRACULA, his eyes wide, attracting the women by his animal power so they sleepwalk towards him...and substitute David Miscavige as Dracula (or at least a cash-vampire) and Tory as the lady in the evening dress in a trance, walking towards his neck-bite...
I lived at/with the Sea Org for a while. Hey and guess what? I wasnt a member!
I remember the so members walking around as the elite and I would think these people are tossers. The standard org staff were so much nicer people. I always got the impression that the so members couldnt make it in the real world hence fitted in well in the so.
Great video, Tory. sLIEntology simply has to lie- the real world scares them, as does the fact that in 50 years there hasn't been one "clear" or "OT" with any of the promised abilities!
The biggest lie is inside the mind of many sLIEntologists- self deception, facing the fact that they've been conned is just too painful.
I have a very good friend who produces for a major news show. Before I bring the story to him/her....would you be willing to share your tale about your time within Scientlogy?
Sure......as long as it fits within my schedule of work, which I've done with CNN, Inside Edition, Rolling Stone Magazine--to name a few. It can be done, if they want to. Let me know :)
I Threw all my L.Ron Hubbard material in the garbage !!! In it's circle of life I have this strong intuitive feeling it's reincarnation could very well be toillet paper and then maybe to face it's ultimate karmic destiny butt finally to have a very useful purpose >>>>>>>>
toryluvslrh2 and vaLLarrr are both Scientology trolls. toryluvslrh2 posts mainly in the Message to Scientology video and is a disgusting pathetic person who not only lies, but does so disgustingly in an attempt to get a reaction.
Nice to know though you are at cause over them. I mean, to have a regular account where your name is attached to them? It's because you are a real threat to their worldview ... and that's great!
C of $, after waking up. As far as past lives, my favorite was meeting not one, but 2 people claiming they were Julius Cesar in one day at Denny's. To learn more of my adventure, listen to Tory talks to CFI here on my site, or XenuTV (it's all together there). Blessings 2 u 2 :) TLC
This was an answer (that's gone now--not sure why)----saying that beep scared the shit out of this person commenting. Anyone know why comments are gone?
Scientology doesn't just lie about its ex-members. It doesn't just lie about its critics. It lies about EVERYONE. I have never been a Scientologist, and I didn't become a critic of Scientology until AFTER a Scientologist launched a malicious smear campaign against me. They don't just use Fair Game on critics and ex-members. They use it on whoever the hell they please. Sorry you're having to deal with this Tory. I know how bad it can be. You have our support! RESPECT~PEACE!
Do you think politicians are afraid of Scientology because they fear lawsuits or because Miscaviage can guarantee jim jones-like turn out during elections and rallies?
Also, when you were in the COS during the 70's and news of jonestown hit the airwaves, how did scientology react to the news? were they worried they would be targeted for being a cult? Was it discussed?
Many people fear being sued, especially by C of $, although that has diminished greatly with the advent of the Net, and people having access to speak the truth. Re Jonestown, it was discussed and of course they were looked on as "such odd people". OSA always worries about being thought of as a Cult, and even sent me to hear Steve Allen speaking on Cults, just to see IF he mentioned C of $ as one of them. He didn't--as his attention was on "The far right and the Bible".
Funny how the Scilon said you were psychotic AND were asking to be let back into Scientology. What exactly is he admitting? That the psychotics are the ones that are in? LOL
toryluvslrh2 and Vallarrr a a couple of complete morons. They seem to have full access to the internet, they are able to read all about Hubbard's and Miscavige's wrong doings, yet they still defend them.
The thing that bothers me about COS is that they are the kind of people who will constantly say that the sky is green when the very people who put in the green tinted windows leave the group and say "yeah,they told us to put those windows in"
toryluvslrh2 is a completely nutty, utterly gullible, Scientology apologist. Lies come very, very easy to toryluvslrh2. Desperately desperate Scientologist is desperately desperate.
Listen to what toryluvslrh2 has to say (if you can avoid the gag reflex) then instantly file it away under "deluded liar".
well... if thay told u the truth, noone will give them money for... nothing? right..?
hejsan119 10 months ago
Ms. Christman, I noticed that the media is not more interested in interviewing you. They rather talk to others.
Teacher2008Teacher 1 year ago
Scientology was built on a foundation of lies[Hubbards fake credentials and claims].In order to sustain itself and continue on it must be perpetuated by more lies.
jimmah1967 1 year ago
Scientology isn't against free speech. They're against free thought. That's what the e-meter is for.
MrWinston1984 2 years ago
whoa the spyware buzz couldn't have been more appropriately timed! haha hope all is well.
BunBeeJazz 2 years ago 5
4:04 - 4:21
commanderinqueef 2 years ago 3
So so so similar to Jehovah's Witness. Once you're out and understand its almost impossible to imagine anyone doesn't.
LuciousVBogeymanProd 2 years ago 4
Nice mask in the back!
sworder24 2 years ago 4
my next door neighbor is a $cilon.They keep tryin to give me crap.They dont know about me and anon.heheh
bwilli93 2 years ago 5
Its pretty simple why they dont talk to you cause they cant control or (handle) you and you will cause doubt in the ones who try. Tory I dont believe that they actually screwed up your case--they just say that so others and you will think that scientology really works it just missapplied! You know they would never fi you for free thats against thier nature! It was a set up and then they would roll out a policy that says we cannot do it for fre yaada yaada ....
cherkas009 2 years ago 4
You're so right about the control. This is even true online; the worst online bullies will block you once they realize they can't control the situation. Of course that's their right, but it says something when they're okay posting lies and insults, but block civil questions based on facts.
trinity12357 2 years ago 2
thank you trinity12357 i think you for got a 4 in the number sequence. lol I think the worst bullies online wont ever let you put a comment in the first place(most scientology stuff disable the comments).
cherkas009 2 years ago 2
I never bought the idea that you must stop communicating with your friend just because some HCO dickwad felt like declaring them suppressive. Of course, my friends in the church are not allowed to talk to me because they might commit the biggest Scientology crime of all - independent thought.
xenuburger 2 years ago 2
Tory, no-one who has watched your videos or seen you speak in public would believe such a crass lie. The more they run these ridiculous programs of dis-information against people, the more they will get "hoisted by their own petard". Especially when they use non-Scios to do their grass-roots dirty work.
Glad to see you are hail, hearty, and still up for the fight. And I hope the alarm we heard was a just an ordinary port sniffer getting it's nose smacked.
Take care.
krysylys 2 years ago 5
L. Ron Hubbard was a liar, and he DID write "Fair Game" which says "you can lie, cheat, steal, destroy someone utterly".
Those "in" are sure this was Cancelled, as was I.
Was it? Their words are proof. Even IF this jerk is a v-troll, which I doubt (as it follows their actions 100%)---he's posting over and over Their flat out lies. So who cares? The point is: They lie, people post it. Learn the truth: L. Ron Hubbard was a liar, and promoted lies against ***anyone*** critical of him.
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago
My guess, this "liar for the church" isn't in the church, just a troll non-protestfag anonymous
nodvick 2 years ago
Could be, but I watched Bill Yaude (OT 7, Class 8) lie to the critics for years. He told me the 3 goals of OSA, on the Net, are: 1) Distract off of Scientology ANY way you can 2) Degrade any X-Scientologists or critics who are exposing facts and information 3) Slime every area so people don't even want to post there.
So whether he's a troll of running one of their programs (which he did get critics--non--scios --to run his programs) or actually one of them, doesn't matter: it's creepy.
TLC
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago
why do ALL religions have to lie?
nodvick 2 years ago
i found a scientology letter in my mailbox today so i was so shocked cause i hate scientology so i tore it up. I hope i dont start getting harrased by them cause it was addressed to me specifically. But heres the weird thing I have NEVER contacted scientology cause i think there a bunch on brainwashing nutcases. Im in Melbourne Australia and there here to. Any way i love your site tory keep up the good fight.
bdstratton 2 years ago 2
Tory, you should put a warning in the video's info that a LOUDE NOISE is going to come in, after about 4:03 into the video.
Dracopol 2 years ago 2
the commercials keep coming please end scientology
minusblame 2 years ago
It´s logical they try to defame you Tory, because they are desperate; but no matter what they say, they always lie, and you speak with the truth. We are with you.
HomoContradictus 2 years ago 3
Way to go Tory! Keep it up! Never give up, never surrender.
LarryM5 2 years ago 4
Every time I comment Tory, especially with a compliment of her - and a criticism of $cientology, I get a pm by some Sea Org drone with lies about Tory, or at a minimum, an insult. Their biggest thing is to turn things around by suggesting that Tory supporters, XenuTV subscribers, and anonymous, are cult members, with Tory as the cult leader. It's really childish and blatantly stupid - it's like being called a 'poopyhead' or something equally infantile. lol. GO TORY!
haypenny 2 years ago 4
Amazing..........truly amazing. What a bunch of
MORONS! Love the alarm though :)
Happy Friday, one and all~
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago
Hey Tory, this toryluvslrh2 character was (maybe still is) basically a fulltime v-log troll. He and his accomplices like vaLLarrr and Robyonder have been consistently pasting lies about you, $cientology and Anon since early last year.
toryluvslrh uses threats of physical violence and even threatened to kill me once when I made him look a fool by refuting his BS
He is mysoginistic and repugnant. That he can stand out as a $ci-troll is remarkable
His rage suggests the fight is being won
kingazzaman 2 years ago 2
Where is it that we can subscribe to this Scientology spew? I have been "dead lettered" by a totally unrelated non-cult group; if you quit they love to smear you. Do they have a FaceBook group, "Tory Magoo is a Doo-Doo Head"? I'd subscribe, lol!
Dracopol 2 years ago
Im a male Tory.
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They use black propaganda and Censorship, they do this to keep their church alive, to keep their members inside. The people in controll of this are at the bottom of the dirt.
hotdot200 2 years ago
I'd like to see/read a reaction by toryluvslrh2 to this vlog...
greenmctea 2 years ago
because the truth will set us free
so they lie to keep us prisoner
PreCurSeD 2 years ago 2
very true, I was in for 15 years..
it IS the Truman show.!!
hangover71 2 years ago 4
That noise scared the shi*t out of me, Tory. I hope your computer is bug-free now!
Korea4Me 2 years ago 3
ok, let me get this straight, tory - you are positive you arent re-enlisting in the cult? lol
jas22 2 years ago 3
I keep having a funny vision of Bela Lugosi in DRACULA, his eyes wide, attracting the women by his animal power so they sleepwalk towards him...and substitute David Miscavige as Dracula (or at least a cash-vampire) and Tory as the lady in the evening dress in a trance, walking towards his neck-bite...
Dracopol 2 years ago 3
OOh - love your rings!!!
hooptastic1 2 years ago
Did you see the mask move in the background?
David Mistthecabbage will always be with you.
Good job Naughty Magoo
Hey what about a book. What is Scientology Full of dodgy correspondence, disconnection letters, transcribed sections from audio all the good stuff.
anonmonk 2 years ago
PT 2
I lived at/with the Sea Org for a while. Hey and guess what? I wasnt a member!
I remember the so members walking around as the elite and I would think these people are tossers. The standard org staff were so much nicer people. I always got the impression that the so members couldnt make it in the real world hence fitted in well in the so.
Scientology is education for the uneducated.
anonmonk 2 years ago
Great video, Tory. sLIEntology simply has to lie- the real world scares them, as does the fact that in 50 years there hasn't been one "clear" or "OT" with any of the promised abilities!
The biggest lie is inside the mind of many sLIEntologists- self deception, facing the fact that they've been conned is just too painful.
laserofjustice 2 years ago 2
Don't mess with Tory.
Omegashadowyoshi 2 years ago 3
Hi Tory,
I have a very good friend who produces for a major news show. Before I bring the story to him/her....would you be willing to share your tale about your time within Scientlogy?
cromwellian13 2 years ago 3
Sure......as long as it fits within my schedule of work, which I've done with CNN, Inside Edition, Rolling Stone Magazine--to name a few. It can be done, if they want to. Let me know :)
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago
I Threw all my L.Ron Hubbard material in the garbage !!! In it's circle of life I have this strong intuitive feeling it's reincarnation could very well be toillet paper and then maybe to face it's ultimate karmic destiny butt finally to have a very useful purpose >>>>>>>>
2009Together 2 years ago 3
We are know the CULT of $cientology is a Bigoted group of brainwashed fanatics. Who do not believe in any form of freedom.
Falsecults 2 years ago 6
toryluvslrh2 and vaLLarrr are both Scientology trolls. toryluvslrh2 posts mainly in the Message to Scientology video and is a disgusting pathetic person who not only lies, but does so disgustingly in an attempt to get a reaction.
Nice to know though you are at cause over them. I mean, to have a regular account where your name is attached to them? It's because you are a real threat to their worldview ... and that's great!
You are at cause!
OpenComments 2 years ago 7
I love me some Tory. Wish I could give you a big bear hug. You haven't changed much in 30 years. I like you in pony tails though.
bigbearjohn 2 years ago 5
Thanks for another great video Tory!
Hope you had a good vacation.
rattyrattyrat 2 years ago 6
I need to get myself one of those scilon alert sirens.
metrx330 2 years ago 4
Why does FOX say they are fair and balanced?
S0undBite 2 years ago 2
Can you expect anything from a pig but a grunt?
I'm amazed that with all that has been made public that so many people are still in scientology.
Travolta certainly seems like an intelligent guy. Hell, Kelly Preston doesn't come across as a drone either.
And yet they're still towing the line.
Anyway, it seems like Slappy and the others are getting more and more desperate by the day.
BillyJr68 2 years ago 2
Do you still believe in your past lives and aliens? What do you believe now?
bsmtdwlr 2 years ago 2
Are you kidding me? Hell no! Please listen to
Tory Talks to CFI---here on YT of on XenuTV.
Many of your questions will be answered there.
My best :) Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago
Re my biggest "win": First off was getting out of
C of $, after waking up. As far as past lives, my favorite was meeting not one, but 2 people claiming they were Julius Cesar in one day at Denny's. To learn more of my adventure, listen to Tory talks to CFI here on my site, or XenuTV (it's all together there). Blessings 2 u 2 :) TLC
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago
That WAS a big win!
you left C of $, and became a great hero to some people!
POKOHelba 2 years ago 5
Tory, tell us about some of your "big wins" and past lives you discovered when you were in.
Thanks for the vids and info.
God Bless
SwampMidget 2 years ago
Q: How do you know when a $cientologist is lying?
A: His lips are moving.
lol
SeeYouNextFall 2 years ago 6
LOL!!! That beep thing scared the shit out of me.
quitejaded 2 years ago 7
Me too! It's from the PC Tools Spy Doctor. Phew.....I guess I need to upgrade?
What a night :) TLC
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago
or get a mac!
flyguy359 2 years ago 2
macs are for scientologists.
windows and linux are better.
hl2vshalo2 2 years ago
Oh that is serious enturbulation. Time for you to go overboard to wash away your sins!
flyguy359 2 years ago 2
Windows is christians and linux is athiests?
POKOHelba 2 years ago
I'm tired of people telling me to get linux. If you're trying to imply that apple products is like a cult... I get your humour.
quitejaded 2 years ago
This was an answer (that's gone now--not sure why)----saying that beep scared the shit out of this person commenting. Anyone know why comments are gone?
Thanks to all :) Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago
Scientology doesn't just lie about its ex-members. It doesn't just lie about its critics. It lies about EVERYONE. I have never been a Scientologist, and I didn't become a critic of Scientology until AFTER a Scientologist launched a malicious smear campaign against me. They don't just use Fair Game on critics and ex-members. They use it on whoever the hell they please. Sorry you're having to deal with this Tory. I know how bad it can be. You have our support! RESPECT~PEACE!
Euterperocks 2 years ago 3
Do you think politicians are afraid of Scientology because they fear lawsuits or because Miscaviage can guarantee jim jones-like turn out during elections and rallies?
Also, when you were in the COS during the 70's and news of jonestown hit the airwaves, how did scientology react to the news? were they worried they would be targeted for being a cult? Was it discussed?
brenz311 2 years ago 2
Many people fear being sued, especially by C of $, although that has diminished greatly with the advent of the Net, and people having access to speak the truth. Re Jonestown, it was discussed and of course they were looked on as "such odd people". OSA always worries about being thought of as a Cult, and even sent me to hear Steve Allen speaking on Cults, just to see IF he mentioned C of $ as one of them. He didn't--as his attention was on "The far right and the Bible".
Best :)
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago
Love you Tory. You are one of the most honest people out there!
iheartanonsparrow1 2 years ago 4
Amazing, these people seem to have no independent thought. I just can't comprehend how these people are so blind to the truth!
DJActivitY 2 years ago 3
Tory you're awesome :)
greenmctea 2 years ago 4
Funny how the Scilon said you were psychotic AND were asking to be let back into Scientology. What exactly is he admitting? That the psychotics are the ones that are in? LOL
LeftyBlue 2 years ago 6
This has been flagged as spam show
COS is falling apart like never before.
Scillions is packing up and leaving in droves.
Slappy is in panic.
He has given everyone 45 hours to meet up on flag with everything they own and hand it over to him or else they will be declared SP´s
put this in Google. elysianchakorta.
And you would not believe your eyes.
nekedemus 2 years ago 9
This isn't spam...why is it tagged as such?
Does anyone know?
Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago
Maybe it's too "close" :-)
nekedemus 2 years ago 2
That's been happening lately. A lot of things that aren't spam are getting marked as spam.
POKOHelba 2 years ago 3
they must have a lot of bloody booty left if they're not able to get any newbies to con
NatureLegalized 2 years ago 3
toryluvslrh2 and Vallarrr a a couple of complete morons. They seem to have full access to the internet, they are able to read all about Hubbard's and Miscavige's wrong doings, yet they still defend them.
The way they slander you is deplorable.
SlappyThePenguin 2 years ago 4
Hail Xenu!
soulinite 2 years ago 2
It looks like your computer is bugged. It sounds an alarm if you talk about DM.
throughsoul 2 years ago 4
The thing that bothers me about COS is that they are the kind of people who will constantly say that the sky is green when the very people who put in the green tinted windows leave the group and say "yeah,they told us to put those windows in"
AlphaDragonOmega 2 years ago 5
That's why I call it the Scientology/Truman Show.
If you watch that show, it's **very** close to how C of $ works. Once you hit the wall......the world opens up :)
My best~~~ Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago
toryluvslrh2 is a completely nutty, utterly gullible, Scientology apologist. Lies come very, very easy to toryluvslrh2. Desperately desperate Scientologist is desperately desperate.
Listen to what toryluvslrh2 has to say (if you can avoid the gag reflex) then instantly file it away under "deluded liar".
PS: Hi Tory :)
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago 7
I'm guessing if they told the truth no one would listen to them.
thejohnsmith 2 years ago 7