THE DREAM ACT AMNESTY FOR MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS S 729, HR 1751

[gtgale1]

If you want to ruin a country leave your borders open, allow illegals a work permit . There must be people in Government that are just determined to destroy this country. This surely is the quickest way to do it to bring down our country in the dirt. No rules no regulations. The sooner we get sane people in Government the sooner we will see our world straightened out. Whew this group are useless. Vote them out. This is our beloved homeland. Lets take it back America

[Oktoberfesting]

We can't allow local cities to make sanctuary cities policies, because they will bring our inner city turf wars to epic proportions by bringing in the drug cartel and Columbian gangs. (Mexican Gangs don't recognize US borders established Treaty of Guadalupe) C SPAN "Black Republican Forum" Session 2 (begin at 11:30) Allen West stated part of Amnesty of 1986 was to secure our borders and enforcement our laws, but haven't happened. (We're still talking about new amnesty like DREAM Act.)

[Oktoberfesting]

2/2 In November 2010, 15.1 million were unemployed (9.8%). 154 million are able to work in workforce (15.1 million/9.8%). GOOGLE “illegal immigration counters”, There are 11,941,812 (or 11.9 million) skilled jobs provided to illegal immigrants. the 15.1 million unemployed could take the 11.9 million available jobs. The unemployment rate could be reduced to 2.1% {{15.1-11.9)/154}.

[Oktoberfesting]

1/2 Immigrationcounters com 97% illegal immigrants are from Mexico. Illegalimmigrationstatistics org $1117 - The average amount you and your family paid in taxes this year to support illegals. 51% - The percentage of Mexican immigrant households that use at least one major welfare program. 28% use more than one.

[NOMCCBAMA]

@Oktoberfesting Thanks of all of the great info. The powers that are running our congress (the globalist corporations) want this invasion. I believe they passed the 1986 amnesty with intention of encouraging illegal immigration. And never had any intention of enforcing the border laws. With the end goal of including he US in north american union and eventually a one world government ran by them.

[flippyflyer]

I called all of my senators this week and urged them to kill the dream act or else they would be out of a job......thank God I did.....illegals please get in line, there are many who are struggling in the USA and need education jobs & health care who are legally here...you dont get to cut in front....end of story..Maybe try to change your country of origin for the better...... now thats a great challenge to put your energy into...as far as the USA...as of now, its ours not yours..

[NOMCCBAMA]

@flippyflyer Thanks for calling. It's a shame that we have to point out something so obvious to our legislators. But judging by the past few decades. The days that we could trust our government to do what is the best for our country and it's people are over. On the bight side. Maybe people will start to paying more attention to them and reverse the damage that has already been done.

[Chunkylove84]

THE ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINAL FREELOADING BEANER ACT

[NOMCCBAMA]

@Chunkylove84 LOL

[HoodwinkedbyanAngel]

@Chunkylove84 GREAT NEWS it is official Dick Durban swallows ~ !

[robertolatino2002]

The Dream Act is the equivalent to being forced to let a home invader into your home with the idea of persuading these perpetrators into lawfully taking advantage of everything we have worked hard for without them taking them via illegal means (fake identities to get welfare/medicine/food/educatio­n etc). Basically entice them to follow the law. If the Dream Act becomes law, do we also implement these same ‘solutions’ for other types of criminals?

Roberto

[atlasdguad77]

DONT LET REID AND HIS BOZO DEMOCRATS PASS THE DREAM ACT, WHICH IS REALLY A NIGHTMARE FOR OUR COUNTRY. DONT LET ILLEGAL IMMIRGATION AND DISREGARD FOR OUR U.S. LAWS GO UNPUNISHED. THIS IS YOUR FUTURE AND THAT OF OUR SONS. CALL YOUR CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS AND TELL THEM TO VOTE NO NO NO ON THE THE DREAM ACT DURING THE LAME DUCK SESSIONS. This Monday by calling (202)224-3121

[MrBeachsand12]

It is 100% Amnesty.

[imreallyclever]

NO BAD DREAM ACT TODAY!!! NO BAD DREAM ACT TOMORROW!!! NO BAD DREAM ACT EVER!!! we, the lawful, law abiding citizens have spoken. This is a gov't of the people, by the people and for the people. We should be celebrating.

[iglooville]

The DREAM Act is NOT amnesty. I am dismayed that people keep calling it this. It is a pathway, perhaps they should look up the word amnesty and compare it to the terms of the DREAM Act. It gives people a pathway to legalization, the LEGAL way where there is no path, where there has NEVER been a path such as the DREAM Act in the history of the US, and there should be.

[NOMCCBAMA]

@iglooville Lets see... Those who entered illegally. (or were supposedly dragged against their will) are given citizenship. They then can sponsor the very people (AND THEIR ENTIRE EXTENDED FAMILY) for citizenship who supposedly drug them here to begin with. LOOKS LIKE AMNESTY TO ME. And there is absolutely no requirement of proof that they qualify for the AMNESTY or an end date for applying. This bill is ripe for fraud. Amnesty only encourages more illegal immigration.

[peteysfv]

@iglooville YAY!! IT DIDNT PASS!!NO AMNESTY !!THEY ARE IN THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY SO THAT MAKES THEM CRIMINALS DEPORT!

[ticks4ticks4]

@iglooville True! It's a PATHWAY to amnesty!

[moosehead5757]

IT IS A NIGHTMARE ACT!!! NO!!! IT IS UNFAIR TO PPL WHO HAVE COME HERE LEGALLY. THEY ARE THE RESPONSIBLITY OF THEIR CHILDREN. PLUS WE DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY!

[NOMCCBAMA]

@moosehead5757 agreed

[robertolatino2002]

@NOMCCBAMA

I’m a Latino… 100% legal to be in the U.S. because our family worked hard for it! (Rightfully went through all the paperwork, fees, interviews, medical checks, more fees, etc..). Why would I care for people who gratuitously ignore our struggle to rightfully come to this country?. I love this country, my brother and sister graduated from college and joined the military life. We pay our taxes, are involved in the community, and DO NOT break the law!

Roberto

[NOMCCBAMA]

@robertolatino2002 Good job. I do like to see people with the morals to do what is right be rewarded for the for their actions. Although I believe that 1.5 million legal immigrants per year is a bit much. welcome

[flippyflyer]

@robertolatino2002 same with mone..right on , this IS NOT a racial issue like the dream act supporters are trying to make it.....its a fai legal issue,,,why should someone be able to cut in line...we already give anchor babies full US benefits such as food stamps..why is this?

[garyomglol]

scenario number 2; they get in line for welfare, it gets denied.. So what do illegals do best? The hump and pump and punch out babies like hot cakes! 9 months later, husband and wife qualified for free rent(section 8), free healthcare, free WIC to feed the baby, and all free social services paid for by ..yes sir...you and me the American taxpayer. I say we take care of our OWN people first before we take care of others. Deport now or America will turn into a 3rd world country in no time.

[NOMCCBAMA]

Your dead on plus it will only encourage more illegal immigration.

[garyomglol]

wow just what we need...bring in more illegals. We are already at 11% unemployment. Bring more in to take our jobs and our young kids( in high school and college) would not have any entry level jobs to go to. unemployment would top 12% Then Obama is going to pass amnesty for 12 million illegals from mexico/latin america, unemployment will top 20%. With no jobs left, hoards of "LEGAL" aliens would now line up for welfare. Disaster I tell ya. This country is going to the dogs..

[screaminchik]

@garyomglol You're obviously very ignorant. If you did your homework then you would know that this is for higher education purposes and not to ALL illegal immigrants and FYI latinos are not only from latin america and if you think they all are then you better go look up your info.

[NOMCCBAMA]

@screaminchik If you did your home work. you would have discovered that this bill would grant a work permit and eventually amnesty to anyone who claims they qualify. The federal government is forced to prove they don't qualify. Then once granted amnesty they can bring in their entire extended family. INCLUDING THE PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT THEM HERE ILLEGALLY. Here are the facts:

(REMOVE THE SPACES)

numbersusa. com/content/files/pdf/DREAM_Ac­t_111. pdf

THIS MAY TAKE A MINUTE TO LOAD

[Metallicat100]

What is all this talk about "They were forced to come here"? What a load of crap. They come here because they see dollar signs and handouts and because they know there are traitors amongst us who will sell out their own people to save a few dollars.

[Msluvalot]

Some people say that they are taking American college seats, but what about those Americans that dont take advantage of being an American; the ones that dont go to school, the ones that dont even know about this problem? I believe that immigrant students appreciate even more the honor of being in this country than some that have the opportunity. =)

[NOMCCBAMA]

You missed the point. It's rewarding and encouraging an invasion of our nation. And look up laraza and their agenda to see how much they appreciate our country

[Msluvalot]

That only a group. That doesn't mean that everyone is like that. Why don't we look up the last name Martinez in a military name list "thingy"lol! Lets see how many pages we pull up. Some of these come 4rm illegal parents.

[NOMCCBAMA]

You think that the fact that illegals are willing to kill for the privilege changes anything?

[Msluvalot]

Then there are those that get private loans, work really hard and with obstacles and all have honors when they do graduate from college. The sad part about it is when they do graduate they are unable to get a job due to their lack of immigration status. These are engineers, doctors, teachers etc that would only positively influence our community.

[NOMCCBAMA]

How about they go home and positively influence their nation so others form their nation don't want to invade our nation?

[Msluvalot]

Look up Dr.Alfredo Quinones=)

[NOMCCBAMA]

What dose this guy have to do with illegals positively influencing the country that they are from instead of coming here? The only thing he has accomplished is to encourag more people to invade our nation. Why doesn't he go home and improve life there? So they don't want to come here.

[Msluvalot]

What if someday you would need this Dr.? and he saves your life... wouldn't want more doctors, and so on in this country anyways. Not to mention the millions of drop out that there are in this country.

[NOMCCBAMA]

Are you attempting to insinuate that this is the greatest doctor in the world and we would some how have no one were it not for his illegal invasion of our nation? Absurd.

Lets see 1 person out of an estimated 20,000,000 that didn't become a burden to our nation and it's taxpayers. That's 0.00000005%

This guy has helped no one but himself.

[Msluvalot]

no that is not what im saying... what im saying is that there are more ppl like this... but you have a right to think the way you want... i guess not everyone is as scared about this as you are... i think there much more scarier things than this. ive met Americans that do bad things against this country and that what i get upset about..i think some ppl dont apriciate this country as much as others..

[NOMCCBAMA]

"ive met Americans that do bad things against this country"

You mean like the illegal immigrant gang members and drug traffickers from south of the border?

i think some ppl dont apriciate this country as much as others..

If your attempting to insinuate that I don't. Citizens who are against amnesty wish to keep this country a place that people want to immigrate to.

[Msluvalot]

Yea like American gang members, dealers, and even Americans that hate to be American. And the whole gang and drug traffiking is a world issue, due to the fact that there are Americans that are involved as well. What im saying that we need positve ppl in this country, im not saying that there aren't any Americans that are doing well for this country im saying we need to hellp each other and we could benifit from those that do well in this country.

[NOMCCBAMA]

so lets encourage and import more...... great idea!!!!! you have to be joking

[Msluvalot]

No not really, but wutever i still have my vote for The Dream Act well for when they make some changes of course. I still think it has somethings to improve, but i love the idea.♥

[NOMCCBAMA]

I know your not. Thank GOD not everyone thinks lie you

[Msluvalot]

humm... and i thank God that not everyone with opposing ideas is as rude as you... but your only human.

[screaminchik]

look idiot yes some illegal immigrants do bad things but not ALL traffic drugs and are gang members. you know as well as i do that there are alot of gang members that are american. Not to mention alot of americans also do drugs and what not. Do you think that only illegals do this? hahahahahahaha thats kinda funny because no they dont. They aren't the only ones who are involved in the drugs and the violence.

[Msluvalot]

oh! there are more and trust me that % is not counting the others that do well.. this act will help those that are not a burden. And that dosen't mean that they will all quilify, just the STUDENTS that earned it. May i add the ones that with hardship and all are able to succeed... awsome!

[Msluvalot]

I'm sure that not just anyone can become a brain surgeon. I'm sure that brain surgeons help a lot of ppl not just themselves... and he is an immagrant that has possetivly infulenced our community..if a farm worker from another country can become a brain surgeon he makes me believe that i can accomplish anything. Even more so knowing that i don't have to go thru the things he did.=)

[Msluvalot]

I think that we are missing the point! The students that would qualify for the Dream Act are students that are doing well in school, have no criminal record, and that want to pursue a career. I have witnessed students that do so well and are obviously very intelligent have their dreams shattered because they cant afford to go to college.

[NOMCCBAMA]

No hte point is that it is rewarding and encouraging an invasion of our nation. This bill has no end date and requires no validation. An applicant simply has to claim they qualify to receive a work permit. Plus ( through chain migration) it will give amnesty to the people who brought them here in the first place. (REMOVE SPACES)

numbersusa. com/content/files/pdf/DREAM_Ac­t_111. pdf

[Msluvalot]

I see what your saying and i respect that. So what do you suggest in order for Dream Act to work. Point being we need to come to an agreement=). And if these students can compete and make our nation better than? What are we so afraid of?

[NOMCCBAMA]

They need to go home and improve their nation. That is a win win for everybody

[screaminchik]

obviously they would have to prove it. & have good moral values which means they have a clean record.

[mrsyrl]

omg illegal aliens need to leave our country if your not an American citizen...you shouldnt be here ...we should not worry about thier kids ...when we dont worry about our own enough....Keep America for the Americans! we cant afford the burden!!

[NOMCCBAMA]

absolutely.

[EPGAH]

What do you expect? We actually ALLOW other countries to dump their poor and criminals on us, and they expect to magically NOT be poor or criminal anymore? Running to America isn't a SOLUTION to the problem, merely a change of scenery and making Americans pay for the "poor little criminals"!

[NOMCCBAMA]

NO our government allows it. We need to stand up and take our country back

[EPGAH]

Remember, they're not coming here JUST to work. They siphon money from our country to theirs, where it doesn't cause any improvement.

If they have time to breed in our country, they're not working hard enough.

If they have time to riot in our streets, they're not working hard enough.

If they have time to demand we speak the invaders' language, they're not working hard enough.

What should we do with the ones that are NOT here to work?

Why should illegals get college when some Americans can't?

[NOMCCBAMA]

So true

[tony464us2010]

WHY DONT PEOPLE ACTUALLY READ THIS LEGISLATION. Its design and does not encourage illegal immigration. Its is giving children hope. It is a very strict act that allows an opportunity. how can people stand and do nothing. this is heartbreaking.

[NOMCCBAMA]

You should read the bill. It would give amnesty to anyone willing to lie about when they entered the country (there is no end date) Nor does it specify how an applicant is supposed to or even have to prove he qualifies for the amnesty. Plus it would give amnesty to the people who brought them here illegally in the first place though chain migration. This is nothing but a thinly veiled backdoor amnesty engineered to invoke guilt and pull at our heart strings. GO HOME AND GET IN LINE!!!

[Msluvalot]

how would you feel if in order to quilfy you had to show proof of dates you were in this country?

[EPGAH]

Why should illegals breed here? Why is America the "population relief valve" for Mexico? I almost guarantee if America closed off the borders--and MEANT it this time--that Mexico would solve its OWN problems, instead of sweeping them all into America!

If they have kids they can't afford to take care of, that's THEIR fault, not ours! And therefore, it should be THEIR problem, not ours.

Heck, a lot of Americans' kids can't afford to go to college, why should illegal scum and their spawn?

[NOMCCBAMA]

Your right,Were they forced to solve their own problems they might. The reason I our government is allowing, rewarding and even encouraging this problem is because they wish to form a north american union. They think that flooding this country with immigrants from south of the border will soften us up for this. Leaving them as the sole communist power and screwing us out of the our rights and the Constitution at the same time. It's both parties. not just one

[NOMCCBAMA]

What thinking man after witnessing what happened after the 1986 amnesty would advocate giving illegals another one. And Both parties want to do that. Just shows you how corrupt they both are.

Chuck Baldwin "The true battle that we face" NWO obama

watch?v=JSOgvsP8a1Q

[EPGAH]

The 1986 Amnesty was just the first of 7. Each one was "rewarded" by MORE illegals, rather than less. And yes, "Saint" Kennedy started the first one...

The socialists in charge view the 20+ million illegals as potential lock-step voters in their party. Think of it, If you wanted to radically change the voting demographics of America practically overnight, how better to do it than to grant Amnesty to over 20 million people who have no experience with anything but socialism! Yes, it's bipartisan!

[Msluvalot]

not just anyone, but those that earned it.. i mean the students.. would you feel better if they couldn't give their parents legal documentation?

[specialdemo4]

hey if your not native american you are all illegals. this was our land until you murdered most of our people. so dont be talking trash cuz you all got illegal bloodlines.most spanish speaking people are great(some make society worst because they got no other choice)i rather them pick fruit than sell drugs, and killing our futures.america was built because natives showed you illegals how to survive, then in return you killed our fathers. thanks for being greatful,

[NOMCCBAMA]

Unless you're descendant from an native united states tribe As I am you have no claim to this land.

That means mexicans too!!!!

[phuningames]

The proposed Dream Act would also be contrary to already-exiting federal law, which says it's a CRIME to aid or abet, or to encourage or harbor, an illegal alien

See this web address:

americanpatrolDOTcom/REFERENCE­/AidAbetUnlawfulSec8USC1324.

html

So, we need to urge our federal reps to instead enforce that already-existing law, by PROSECUTING all universities and other schools harboring illegal aliens, fining them $5,000 EACH illegal found there, & making the schools pay all deportation costs

[NOMCCBAMA]

Excellent points

Thanks for posting them

[beatdisnutz]

This bill must add prohibitions that will not allow beneficiaries to adjust status for more than one close relative. But overall, it's a fair bill because no federal or state funds will be used to finance their education.

[NOMCCBAMA]

No your wrong this bill needs to not be passed. And they would receive some federal funds and affirmative action preferences.

[beatdisnutz]

Hate groups have never had it so good until this whole immigration issue hit mainstream media. I'm not going to fall for arguments crafted by radicals who need someone to hate. Our system's negligence also contributes to it. A week ago, a number of U.S. customs were tried for corruption. The real issue here is money.

[NOMCCBAMA]

Just banned you. This is about national sovereignty. Not race. BTW My father was 1/2 Cherokee.

[beatdisnutz]

You certainly have a job here. Look how many messages you've written. I think you make your point but you are just too angry to listen to other arguments. In today's economy, nobody likes immigration period. Legal or illegal. But most of these young students have been here for many years and if they are willing to pay their way to school, without taxpayers money, and not extend their benefits to family members, they should get a chance to earn legal status.

[NOMCCBAMA]

Like I said we don't need to encourage more illegal immigration by rewarding it. This bill does just that. If the damn government were doing it's job instead of encouraging more illegal immigration we wouldn't have this problem in the first place. They are mexican citizens let mexico take care of their own for a change. Not pass it on to us then complain when we don't accept their responsibility with open arms.

[beatdisnutz]

Folks from both aisles must compromise. Students should earn their residence but no free money and they can't request status for other relatives. If activists who are pro-dream act take this approach, it will much easier to pass this bill. I guarantee you that most Americans, specially conservatives like myself would be willing to support a bill that breaks the chain of illegal immigration but helps those students who are attending school.

[NOMCCBAMA]

This bill rewards and encourages more illegal behavior. Giving another amnesty is the dumbest thing we could possibly do.

[NOMCCBAMA]

No one has to compromise anything. Don't break our laws. period. Why should Americans be punished for their crimes?

[Msluvalot]

Trust me it will be just fine we just need to find a compromise=)

[NOMCCBAMA]

I agree illegals go home, not negotiable, we can go from there

[NOMCCBAMA]

Oh i forgot... get in line

[Msluvalot]

OMG!! You are my hero!! "folks from both asisles must compromise" your awsome!! just for that...your thinking, thank you!!

[NOMCCBAMA]

Yea we compromised to allow illegals to get in the back of the line.

couldn't be more fair to everyone

[Msluvalot]

umm... i know of students that are illegal and they are paying their way thru school, are in honors college with 3.7s and 4.0s. They didn't make the choice to come here, but they are here and know this as home. Those are the ppl that im talking about.... i understand where your coming from, but those students aren't being a burden and they should benifit from the act. I would do 100 on this if they made it so only the student could benefit.

[NOMCCBAMA]

They should go home and improve their country

[Msluvalot]

they could, but i don't mind if they stay=).

[NOMCCBAMA]

I do

[screaminchik]

@NOMCCBAMA people can't improve a country that is already in ruins. Why would they leave if they came here as young kids? They were raised here, went to school here and graduated here. Now they want a higher education and it's denied. It's not going to encourage laziness, they have to work harder for it but it would be worth it to them.

[NOMCCBAMA]

@screaminchik

BS that attitude is why we both have this problem. It will encourage more illegal immigration just like the 1986 amnesty did. And you know it.

If this bill was about "the children" it would be restricted TO "THE CHILDREN" And would deny them chain migration rights.

As far as working harder that's BS too. Immigrants have it far easier than citizens.

If we want to help these people.We need to find ways to help them there. Bringing them here won't change anything.

[monchito3356]

well am an illegal as u would say puto but last year i made 36 thousand and am 22 years old i i graduated and i got higher education if i had my papers i wouldn't have to work for shitty money i would be making in the 60 i help are economy i pay tax and revise them give us a change and we have the drive the most American born just don't have anymore that drive that made the the immigrant Irish German or even the earliest settlers had we don't take shit for granted we work had because we have to

[NOMCCBAMA]

After reading your post . I'm having a hard time believing you graduated middle school. If you are making 36 k on a 60 K job. It's because you're under cutting the fair market value. You probably wouldn't even have the job if you weren't. It's not because you have any special talent or drive. So don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. Why don't you go back to where ever you're from and improve the situation there. Instead driving our standard of living down.

[monchito3356]

and well unfortunately there not much u can do about it but post your video and bitch about it am here to stay sooner hopefully than later i will become as legal as u and i will go on with my life and u still live your bitter one then i will comeback to this video and laugh at u people like u are standing in my way to a better way of my life and if people like u are willing to stand in my way i will knock u down

[NOMCCBAMA]

@monchito3356 don't bet on it

watch?v=d_LsAKiT9r4

watch?v=U9W5W7-ylF8

[jose2007cc]

@NOMCCBAMA its not undercutting the market value, it is surviving and sucking your pride and accept a low paying job although you are more than capable earning more money. Instead of hating on immigrants, we should as Americans embrace them and introduce them officially to the economy. It will better our society as whole. PASS THE DREAM ACT

[monchito3356]

someone with brains

[quarvis]

@screaminchik so it is OK to let our country fall into ruin?

[chucks4gardengrive]

sorry but 1 person alone will NOT bring 200 in!

If that is the problem why not add on the bill that the can not bring others in.. 9 times out of 10 their family will not have a problem with it.

[NOMCCBAMA]

One of the biggest problems with the nightmare act is that is allows recipients chain migration rights. Either way, no matter what you call it, it's an amnesty rewarding illegals for their illegal actions. Even if the student are denied chain migration rights they are still being rewarded because it grants their children citizenship. With the hope of influencing our government in the future to allow them chain migration rights.

[morales91]

How can anyone call THE DREAM ACT an amnesty? Like you have mentioned, even us that are Pro-Immigrants agree that another amnesty would not be wise, but A DREAM ACT would! we are importing foreign professionals who lack the knowledge of what it means to be American, when we can just legalize these students who have lived in the country their whole lives and know nothing else besides AMERICA. The reality is that AMERICAN is going though huge demographic changes, changes that hurts EGOS!

[NOMCCBAMA]

The nightmare act isn't restricted to students. It will give amnesty to the people who brought them here. And anyone who is willing to lie about when they entered the country. It Is an amnesty.

[morales91]

A bit more research on your part regarding Immigration Law would really help you! Students or anyone who is attempting to naturalize can not just lie about the Date they entered the country. Strict documentation has to be provided. And lets ask this, would you prefer a back door amnesty or a direct amnesty like the one in 1986? Because the reality is, that one or the other will occur.

[NOMCCBAMA]

Don't bet on it

[USMarineMC]

Tom Tancrapo is a big douche bag!

[NOMCCBAMA]

What is the matter? Is he to right for you?

[adjruiz2]

what is so bad with permitting immigrants to legalize if we have never broken the law and are trying to better our selves by trying to reach a higher education. Ok yall say this reform is a bad ideal but its a SOLUTION!!! yall only give buts when yall should be working to find a solution to this problem

[NOMCCBAMA]

A solution to our problem isn't rewarding illegal immigrants with an amnesty for disregarding our laws and invading our country.

That would only encouraging more illegal immigration and make the problem far worse.

Only an ass would look at what happened after the 1986 amnesty and think that another amnesty would solve anything.

[theangelq]

I'm sorry but what you're saying is a red hearing fallacy

[NOMCCBAMA]

Really? why?

[theangelq]

well, how are Americans being punished? I understand the illegal part. dont get me wrong, however, did these kids come here because they felt like it? They didnt, some where dragged here by their parents, does a 6 year old comprehends all this? It would not be a chain reaction

[NOMCCBAMA]

It encourages more illegal immigration for one.

[theangelq]

(part 2) this law would only apply to the students and if they wanted to nominate their relatives it would take forever for the relatives, trust me. I do believe they should get a penalty, but there are other ways besides deportation. Like paying fines that would help this economy. When people complain that "illegal" students end up on the streets, it's like they have the answer in front of their faces...Because they dont give them a chance

[NOMCCBAMA]

If you break into a house and steal a tv and a radio. Then give the radio back but get to keep the tv. does that sound fair to you. Why should the american citizens be forced to subsidize thei invasion of their nation?

[theangelq]

ok, no. You are comparing two different things. My argument is explaining ways to pay for a crime, your example is telling me that as long as one punishment is served for a crime, the other crime is forgotten. and that is not what im implying

[theangelq]

I do understand where you are coming from and dont blame you for the frustration you have, but there are many ways to settle this situation. These kids cry everyday becuase it's not that simple to finish their education in this country or their homeland. I look at the politic and economic view but also the social and humanitarian views

[NOMCCBAMA]

They should go home and apply to enter legally. That is fair for everyone

[therookie562]

let us young people have a an opportunity to succeed in this country we are not all bad, everybody deserves a chance.

[NOMCCBAMA]

This is a backdoor amnesty for millions of illegals.

[EPGAH]

Remember, it's not Mexicans vs. Americans, it's law-ABIDING citizens vs. violent, arrogant parasites.

If illegals REALLY wanted citizenship, they'd join our military. There's a reason our military has so many Filipinos, and it's NOT a covert training program for the Phillippines! Filipinos obey without demanding, illegals demand without obeying.

Which do you think Americans would welcome more?

[NOMCCBAMA]

I don't necessarily agree with them joining the military for citizenship either. We are bringing in way to many immigrants now. Nearly 1.5 million a year is crazy. Trading military service for citizenship I believe would be almost as bad as another amnesty. But your right, it's not mexicans VS americans. It's about enforcing our laws and not rewarding those who refuse to obey them.

[nabeel4555]

dream act rules

[NOMCCBAMA]

It's a dream for illegals and a nightmare for the rest of the nation. Visit numbersusa com to see how this bill will give amnesty to millions of illegal invaders of our nation.

[NOMCCBAMA]

This so called "dream act" has been shot down 4 times previously. It will give amnesty to every illegal UNDER 35 YEARS OLD who is willing to lie on the application. And their parents through chain migration. It requires absolutely no proof that these kids are telling the truth. All they have to do is CLAIM they qualify and they get AUTOMATIC conditional RESIDENCE and a WORK PERMIT!! Visit numberesusa com to see the truth about this backdoor amnesty. HELP SPREAD THE WORD!!

[EPGAH]

No it doesn't. Send them all home. The fact that they've been here 20 or even 35 years means only that they've been breaking OUR laws that long!

We need to use asset-forfeiture to make sure these ungrateful scum AND their kids do not profit off America from their CRIMINAL acts!

[NOMCCBAMA]

AGREED!!!

[NOMCCBAMA]

excellent points thanks for posting

[AAIDT2]

AAIDT2

Why didn't your illegal alien save some of their illegal earnings to pay for your college education? No one is stopping you from going to college, just don't expect us to pay for it. Good moral charactor means that you don't buy a SSN when you enter our country illegally. Everyone for 4.95 go on CheckMYSSN. You can see who else is using your SSN. Federal Law requires the parents tax returns and SSN and the students for a student loan. WHO'S SSN ARE THEY USING YOURS???!!!