YIISA Alan Dershowitz Lecture(Qumsiyeh says Hitler a Zionist

[bths87]

people shud not even waste time thinking of this vile creature dershowitz-who distorted and spread so many lies about palestine & norman finkelstein-it was a disgusting show-this man is characterless & just plagiarized nonsense from joan peters & then had the nerve to call finkelstein an anti-semite spreading lies, when finkelstein is actually a scholar of scholars on this issue & had annihilated dershowitz's book in "beyond chutzpah" which dershowitz tried so hard to stop from being published.

[douniamahdiya]

Viva Mazin!!!

[justanothersheeple]

dispensationalism and john nelson darby is bullshit, btw

[oldjoe5]

The speaker provides detailed facts -- citing the exact quotes and page numbers.

Dershowitz provides volume and bluster.

[poinset333]

Hitler and many many others in the Nazi movement supported zionism. They wanted the jews and their bolshevism out of their country. The SS helped and continues justify a zionist reason to create a country for jews.

[huckteeper]

That showed Dirtbagowitz!

[alexrsuarez1]

long live mazin!

[oldjoe5]

Dershowitz reminds me of (in his own words) a large movement

[oldjoe5]

boy, that guy called every Dersh bluff and gambit.

[kissfan7]

Plocker said the Checka killed 20 million. He did not say the ethnicity or religion of the victims or killers. He points out that among the victims were communists, who were atheists, not Chritians.

If Plocker knew Stalin was Jewish why didn't he write it?

I never denied there were Jews working for the USSR. In fact, two weeks ago I said "Some [Soviet] leaders were Jewish by birth" You are a liar. Read "The Plight of Refugees From the German-Occupied Territories"

[YourExposer]

kesarias1 and shitsjew are tha same person.

I emailed shitsjew and then blocked him. So then kesarias1 answered the email instead.

shitsjew/kesarias1, clueless moron, disgusting racist pussy, you know zero on this subject. Go back to fingering your mother's azzhole as you always do. Since you're worthless and only good for sticking your tiny weenee into your mom, just stick with that from now on. Nobody's interested in what you say anyway. Just drown yourself cuz we can't stand your odor.

[proudkike]

in John 8 [:39,44] Jesus said to the jews If you were Abraham's children ye would do what Abraham did.... You are  of your father the devil

[oldjoe5]

Note how Dershowitz changes the subject when the speaker calls his bluff.  What a phoney

[kissfan7]

The article says some communists were Jewish and killed people. No one denies that. The article doesn't say that Stalin was Jewish or that Jewish people killed 20 million.

And the article is missing info. Plocker says 39% of the secret police in 1934 were Jewish, but in 1918 only 3.7% were and in 1937 only 6% were. Those years that gentiles were the majority were much bloodier. I agree with Plocker that people should learn more about communist murderers, but they should learn the whole story.

[proudkike]

the Checka = were ordered by their boss the jews who were in power! so the jews are the ones who commited the murders.

your goddameir once said

There's no difference between one's killing and making decisions that will send others to kill. It's exactly the same thing, or even worse.

plocker was not writing about Stalin but about his jewish bretheren murderers

[kissfan7]

Stalin was raised Orthodox Christian and his family spoke Georgian, not Yiddish. Read "Stalin's War Against the Jews" by Louis Rapoport.

28% of the churches were shut down. A horrible number, but it pales in comparison to the 58% of the synagogues closed and demolished.

Every group had "special exclusive laws" at one point in its history. It's a non sequitur.

Napoleon liberated the Jews in the areas he conqured and made Judaism an official religion of France. Cite your source please.

[kesarias1]

kissfan7

In the Georgian language shvili means son of or son as in Johnson Djuga means Jew Therefore Djugashvili means Jewison

So Joe Stalin's real name before he changed it,was Joe Jewison It gets better,his name was Joseph David Djugashvili a typical Jewish name During his revolutionary days he changed his name to Kochba the leader of the Jews during one of the anti-Roman uprisings of the Jews Russians don't change their names.Georgians don't change their names

Jews change their names

[kissfan7]

My first name is Ian, which means "God is Gracious" in Scottish. Does that make me Christian? Show me evidence that Stalin was Jewish, not just name changes.

Molotov was a gentile who changed his name. In fact, he was hired because Stalin fired his Jewish precessor in order to sign the alliance with the Nazis. Which brings up the question of why Stalin would not only kill thousands of Jews and demolish synagogues, but sign a pact with an murderous antisemite if he were Jewish. Doesn't add up.

[kissfan7]

What else from an antisemite but half-truths and horrible grammar? I'm not Jewish by the way. I'm an agnostic of Irish decent.

The USSR was the main arms supply for Egypt, Syria, and Iraq. More than half of the synagogues in the USSR were shut down. Stalin killed hundreds of thousands of Jews.

Some leaders were Jewish by birth (not religion), but Stalin's purges killed most of them. Jews were a minority in the party itself according to census figures (tinyurl dot com/5ft8at).

[ww2footage]

Hitler wanted to move Jews from Europe to Madagaskar or Palestine ... so he WAS Zionist

[kravitshalom]

Israel must avoid peace with the Arab World or loose the Oil Company support of their military. Without its military, the Arab world will exterminate the Israelis. Dershowitz represents Israel the only way that the Arabs and the Oil companies will allow him to. It's how politics work. Jordan is 80% Palestinian. They left their poor behind to fight their battles for them. While the elephants play, it's the frogs that pay. Both Israel and Palestine have no future without peace.

[dilbertgeg]

kravitshalom wrote: Both Israel and Palestine have no future without peace. and someone gave you a thumbs down! Hard to fathom. People who hate peace, it's so passe.

Various Palest'n groups have offered olive branch many times, compromise on either separate state w contig borders, or joint Jewish-Arab democracy. Every offer rejected on some excuse, or counter-offer with harsh terms, or reject on some petty contention.

Moshe Sherrat's diary explains provocation, propaganda, "retaliation".

[kissfan7]

"Germany's objective would then be solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere under the protection of British power." - Hitler to Hajj Amin al-Husseini, leader of the Palestinian Muslims

Husseini was one of Hitler's allies. He helped in the murder of thousands of Jews and other innocent people during the Holocaust and was wanted in Yugoslavia for war crimes. I can assure Mr. Qumsiyeh that neither Hitler nor Husseini were Zionists.

[dilbertgeg]

I've read several Jewish accounts of Irgun and Stern gangs supporting the tenets of Nationalism + Socialism, State-worship, copying Mussolini and Nazi terror tactics.

Also, attempts to get backing from Hitler, thru channels. Yitzhak Shamir then served high levels in Isr govt.

Allen Dulles & John Dulles & Prescott Bush also backed Hitler, along with MANY other right-wing Americans, claimed it PATRIOTIC to back Hitler, to defeat trad Amer liberal values of 1776 - they truly HATED America.

[kissfan7]

Those accounts were by Labor Zionists who hated the Irgun and Lehi. They were exagerating their views. It's like how some on the right today call liberals commies. It would be dishonest for future historians to take those comments as proof that today's Democrats admired Marx.

Shamir didn't serve at "high levels" until the '80s. 30,000 Zionists fought the Nazis. 700 died.

The support of Prescott Bush and the Dulles brothers for Hitler has nothing to do with Israel. Dulles hated Zionists.

[proudkike]

kissfan7 Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six

volumes of Churchill's Second World War total 4,448 pages; and

de Gaulle's three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. In this

mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including

the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find

no mention either of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews,

or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war."

[proudkike]

2) September 1, 1998: Director of Holocaust studies, Yeduha Bauer of Yad Vashem, Holocaust Center at Jerusalem, set the number of

deaths at Auschwitz at 1,600,000;

(3) 1989: Professor Raul Hilberg, Professor of Holocaust Studies in Tel Aviv, "asrahel", lists the Auschwitz total at 1,250,000;

(4) July, 1990: Polish Historians replaced the plaque at Auschwitz with a new one stating that those who died of all causes and of all

nationalities is 1,100,000;

[dilbertgeg]

Kissfan, you seem scholarly, not reactionary.

I never meant to imply NO Zionists fought Hitler, but reports that leaders of Irgun/Stern sought to emulate Mussolini, trained w Blackshirts, sought aid from Hitler, agreed w basic ideas on RACE. Many Jews were appalled.

Dulles did hate Zionists - my response to Husseini/Hitler comment - as if WALL STREET + some US politician did not ALSO back Hitler.

Beyond extremes, clear that Zionism supports hard distinction btw Arab RACE vs Jewish RACE.

[kissfan7]

Irgun was lead by Vladimir Jabotinsky who, though I disagree some of his views, was a liberal who supported including Arabs in the Israeli government and opposed fascism. As Dershowitz said in this lecture (I recommend watching the whole thing on Google) there were some idiots who thought that tactically supporting the Axis was the right thing to do, but the leader of mainstream Zionism supported the Allies and the leader of the Arabs supported Hitler.

[kissfan7]

But this isn't about Wall Street, it's about the anti-Zionism and Nazism.

All forms of nationalism recognize (not support) distinctions between ethnic groups (not races). Irish nationalism recognizes distinctions between Irish and British, Arab nationalism recognizes distinctions between Arab and non-Arab, Greek nationalism recognizes distinctions between Greek and Turk, Armenian nationalism recognizes distinctions between Armenian and Turk etc. Why condemm Zionism and not all nationalisms?

[dilbertgeg]

I pointed out Wall Street role bcos official govt sometimes varies from unofficial, Dulles was in State Dept before joining law firm that funded Hitler, then joined govt again as CIA dir. Blurred lines.

A true democrat or socialist would oppose ALL nationalism. I oppose all HYPER-nationalism and HYPER-ethnic divisions and distinctions, where allegiance to Tribe overrides other ethical values and leads to bitter conflict.

That does not denigrate ethnic pride. Keep proportion and perspective.

[kissfan7]

There was nothing blurry about the Mufti's support for Hitler if that's what you are getting at.

"A true democrat or socialist would oppose ALL nationalism."

Going by your definition, dozens of liberal democracies from Japan and Korea to Ireland and Italy are not really liberal democracies. If there ever were a Palestinian state according to you it would never be democratic because it is based on Palestinian nationalism.

Do you oppose all these countries or just Israel? If so, why?

[dilbertgeg]

I'm reading about Mufti's support for Hitler and Dulles support for Hitler.

I think Israel CAN be ethnic nationalist, but then it's NOT like US or Britain. Japan mistreats chinese immigrants does it not?

But more to the point, Isr courts have granted or confirmed indiv private property of citizens/residents, but Army ignores these rulings at will. People with deeds fight seizures. I know a gentleman whose family home bulldozed at 2am w no warning for no crime. That is not a liberal democracy.

[kissfan7]

Israel IS like the UK in that one is an Anglican state and the other is a Jewish state. Besides, isn't it a bit ethnocentric to say that a country must be exactly like the US to be democratic?

Yes Israel has flaws, but in the US our government takes land to build roads and seizes homes used by drug dealers. Our Supreme Court is not nearly as active as Israel's (which rerouted the fence twice) in stopping rights violations. During the height of the Intifada it was making rulings daily.

[dilbertgeg]

Israel treats Arab Christians and Muslims as 2nd class citizens, whether they act as enemies or as loyal citizens.

Britain does not officially extra-legal abuse of minorities, they did to Irish and now Arabs.

Israel's courts have ruled in favor of Arabs, but been ignored by Army. When Moshe Sherrat was PM, Army officers even ignored him.

To an extent, MI5 and MI6 and CIA have ignored PM and President too, all have violated Constitutions and laws, so it IS similarly illegitimate.

[kissfan7]

How are Israeli-Arabs 2nd class citizens? Sadly, the UK and US has abused minorites when fighting terrorism, as have France, Canada, Russia, and Syria. None of them faced a threat as big as Israel's. Are all these nations illegit?

I haven't found anything saying the IDF disobeyed the Court's ruling on the barrier. Can you point to a source?

Many governments have violated their laws. Do you think ANY nation is legit except for Vatican City, or has His Holiness broken a few commandments?

[dilbertgeg]

law abiding Israelis are permitted to live in their homes

law abiding peaceful Palestinians get evicted by bulldozer w 15 m notice or less, incl a pers friend very shy man, who awoke 2am to sound of dozer shredding his home, rushed wife and kids out, but not before orders so they didn't get shot

Times London had pos story on 60, plus story on Christians forbidden to return to a town as promised in 1948, again by Supreme Court.

Bedoins repeat IDF evictions.

MANY other. How do people NOT know?

[kissfan7]

I'm talking about Israeli-Arabs, not Palestinians, 87% of whom support suicide bombings. The IDF stopped that policy, but the US still does pretty much the same thing to the less deadly crime of drug dealing. If your friend had lived in Jordan, Syria, or Algeria when s/he was caught s/he might not be here to tell you what they do to suspected terrorists.

What was the name of the Supreme Court case?

Why were the Bedouins evicted?

[cb44ever]

definitely wouldnt lets not forget what the charter says for hamas ..and what they did to women and kids in the hamas coup keep on fightin bro i get told everyday that something I saw with my own eyes didnt happen or not in a certain way by someone who has never even seen Israel from greece ..etc I am a soldier who appreciates ya sticking up for us ...am yisrael chai

[cb44ever]

christians werent allowed back in that city cause of muslims not us idiot ..every muslim country in the world treats non muslims as vermen check it out ...how come we have so many christains , muslims , bahai , etc livin in the country the same people who are jailed strictly for their beliefs in every other arab land what do ya think the 82 lebanon war was over .ya have never been to israel yet ya say who lives there just so ya know Im Israeli soldier ,I have lots muslim friends in Israel

[dilbertgeg]

CB44ever,

fine you have Muslim friends, good

in that BBC story, it was clear, the Supreme Court in Israel told residents they could move back to their town or go visit old homes and graves.

The Army ignored the Supreme Court and refused the Christians access.

However, I'm not saying Muslim nations tend to be moderates, SOME DO, depending on the culture. People tell me that Palestinians are more educated, more modern, and oppose Sharia Law. They just want an even break.

[cb44ever]

we have never done things like that without warning we tear down houses when there has been an attack also ya listening to a person whos prob lying cause he thinks its cool they always do that I met a guy who said all terrible things he remembered ..then his sis told me they left when he was 1 almost 2 sure he remembers also the people who tell lies about ops I was a part of and says we did things we never did they are liars everytime they get caught in a lie

[dilbertgeg]

CB,

guy I know lives in Gaza now with his wife and young daughters. Wife is a doctor but she was not permitted to leave Gaza for cancer diagnosis or treatment, simply because she's Arab and lives in Gaza.

My friend is not a liar or a terrorist.

The problem with Israelis is NOT that they are always wrong, it's that Israelis act like they are NEVER wrong, that the Occupation is right, and always decent, and always justified.

Some idiots in the US still say killing Vietnamese was justified.

[proudkike]

kissfan7 :

God Hate the jews !!

Behold, I will make the jews of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come

and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Revelation 2:9-10, 3:9.

[kissfan7]

None of those books mention the gulags either, yet they existed.

Churchill called Aushwitz "the greatest and

most horrible crime ever committed" in a letter to Anthony Eden. Eisenhower wrote about his trip through a concentration camp. ("Crusade in Europe" 408-409) Did you accidently miss it?

Revelation was written by a psychopath and no real theologian agrees with your interpretation. Do us all a favor and learn how to quote correctly so you don't mangle verses beyond all recognition.

[proudkike]

kissfan7 The jews never tell the truth, "Examples of how the Holocaust has been used as a weapon to promote policies favorable to Israhel are extensive.

Yet to be published by the Council is the fact that the 6 million figure is a myth, invented in 1945 by Llya Ehrenburg,Stalins Jewish propaganda chief during World War II Since then the figures have been systematically reduced:

(1) May 7,1945:The Soviet Jewish anti-Fascist Committee announced that the number gassed at Auschwitz was 4,00,000

[proudkike]

Another fake Holow-cost another jews lies

Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billions jews were killed by the Romans in the city of

Bethar. Gittin 58a claims of those 4 BILLIONS jews 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.

[kissfan7]

Western scholars never took the Soviet's estimate seriously or used it in their research. His name is Ilya, not Llya. The USSR hated Israel. Why would they make up facts to support it? It doesn't fit.

How can you believe Revelation, which even many Christian scholars doubt, and yet dismiss Gittin? It's not unusual for ancient books to exagerate historic events, the massacre of boys under two by Herod for example.

[specialrican69]

after watching democracy now he loves talkin OVER PEOPLE especially when he is found WRONG whichhas been...most of the case LMFAO!!

[imfromjenin]

99MIO,

Dershbag a coward? yes indeed!

All jews too? You are a bigot!

[kravitshalom]

I would love to have Dershowitz as an attorney. He is like a pitbull. I have issues with his scholarship and overdoing things, but I wish he was my attorney. BTW. His son is one of the most decent people you'll ever meet. Must take after his mother.

[99MIO]

Dershowitz is a Fucking Coward just like most Jews

[AntiRacistBlog]

Racist.

[straightchris]

Dershowitz: "I can remember everything in my books."

Lord Caradon?

[imfromjenin]

LOL